Richard Dawkins On Nature [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 6 years ago Science

We"ll summarize if for you: Nature"s a bitch.
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Male 4
@Elderban,
I know it`s sad but when I saw your comment I had to make an account and say that sadly, you`re wrong =P
Its called symbiosis when things work together and things like that. Of course you won`t see a "lion cooperated with a gazelle" but thats because the examples you gave were all predator and prey. I`m doing a project on symbiosis which is the only reason I know the word haha, but check it out anyway. `Symbiosis in the animal kingdom` on google would probably show something.
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Male 2,422
@Elderban: That`s not strictly true. Coyotes often hunt with badgers for praire dogs and are more sucessful with a badger as a partner than either alone or with another coyote. Though once the meal is caugt neither tends to share.
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Male 390
Animals do not have morals, but they do have feelings. And, yes, they do cooperate, only with their own species though. Can you tell me the last time time that a lion cooperated with a gazelle, or an alligator cooperated with a duck, or when you cooperated with the cow that became the hamburger that is on your plate? I doubt it.
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Male 68
Dawkins is an awesome atheist - he just sux at everything else.
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Female 23
thats not right.
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Male 1,067
Brutal.
I didn`t know (forgive my lack of bird knowledge) that herons(?) ate mammals.
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Male 1,054
"Oh and for the record, animals dont have moral fiber.."

Really now. So you can talk to animals? Before you seal that record, you might want to read some of the current research:
http://tinyurl.com/373veuz (link to Amazon)

"Wild Justice: The Moral Lives of Animals"

"Do animals feel empathy for each other, treat one another fairly, cooperate toward common goals, and help each other out of trouble? In short, do animals demonstrate morality? Bekoff and Pierce answer with an emphatic “yes!” in this fusion of animal behavior, animal cognition, and philosophy. The authors discuss the sense of fair play and justice in nonhuman animals. Social animals form networks of relationships, and these relationships rely on trust, reciprocity, and flexibility—just as they do in humans."

And Dawkins is a con man.


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Male 151
defiythelie

You mean, you don`t notice any differences... none at all... really? Come on.
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Male 230
@bombaytech
Hate to burst your bubble but humans are animals, the only reason some people think other wise is because they are human LOL. I am sure if a dog could talk he would tell us why he is far superior to all other forms of life.
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Male 151
One could (easily) argue that indifference itself can be considered cruelty. Logic fail. I never liked Dawkins.

Not to mention the fact that comparing animals with humans is like apples and oranges to begin with. There are many similarities yes, but too many differences to ignore.

And don`t forget many animals have also been observed showing emotion like compassion or grievance. Monkeys, elephants... eesh.
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Female 154
I`m gonna say photo-shopped because if I don`t I`ll cry...

I freaking love bunny rabbits
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Male 12,365
[quote]I`m not sure of that last bit Angilion, in a way nature has evolved a purpose, to survive and propogate.[/quote]

Can something without a mind have a purpose?

Or maybe the real question is the definition of "purpose".
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Male 462
Oh and for the record, animals dont have moral fiber.. if that bird found a baby by the river, it would certainly dunk he or she in and swallow them up too. Unless we raise them, predators will think of smaller prey as nothing else but food.
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Male 462
Jesus christ I didn`t know they went around swallowing rabbits. Thats actually pretty cool..
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Female 2,695
OH MY GOD
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Female 1,008
Not really cruel, if that`s what you were thinking.

The bird drowned the rabbit so that it could eat it in order to survive.
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Male 1,378
awesome
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Male 276
"It was trying to help the rabbit swim but failed. Then it got hungry."
I like this description best
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Male 328
WOW. That was brutal.
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Female 351
that bastard!!
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Female 125
BUNNNNY!! D:
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Male 5,190
It was trying to help the rabbit swim but failed. Then it got hungry.
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Male 2,220
"Dawkins is right about this - morality is something humans superimpose on nature. It has no feelings, no sentiment, no purpose."

I`m not sure of that last bit Angilion, in a way nature has evolved a purpose, to survive and propogate.

I`m surprised that people are surprised by the heron - its a patient predator descended from the dinosaurs.
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Male 480
*burp*
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Male 17
I CALL BULLpoo! THIS IS FAKE!
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Female 199
DAMN NATURE, YOU depressing and cruel like an ex-lover.
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Male 10
That was AWESOME! I have a new found respect for herons.
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Female 917
The entire time I was like "NO SOMEONE SAVE THE BUNNY! SAV- dammit."
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Male 2,788
Oh god I laughed so hard
I feel terrible
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Male 722
I love it`s face in the last one. I don`t know why but I keep laughing at it. I could imagine it saying, "Derp?"
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Female 536
I forgot that herons and some cranes do this to small mammals and other birds :P It`s kinda mean how they drown them, but like the smart man said.....nature`s indifferent
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Male 70
Nature is neither kind nor cruel, but it does love itself some dippin` sauce.
-me
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Male 36
@Baelzar lol wth?
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Male 1,625
Om nom nom.
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Male 1,399
My roommate worked at a pet store all through college, and he used to buy the rabbits to bring home.....to eat.

I always knew when he brought one, because he`d put it in a brown paper sack and they`d be jumping around in there...THWACK...THWACK...

It was a perfect set up, because he could fatten them up on premium feed at the store, and he had his pick of the litter.
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Male 787
NOO BUNNY
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Female 2,120
Someone needs to punch that bird in the face.
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Male 7,378
Richard Dawkins is right but that is still wrong.
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Male 2,748
hey, reminds me of my friday night.
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Male 3,619
OH HAHAhahaha oh god i kaughed so loud i voke my parents. oooooh nature x`)
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Male 12,365
Has anyone else noted that the subtitle for this thread completely contradicts the main title and the content?
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Male 36,374
DROWNING BUNNEHS!!!
*sniff*
That`s SOOOO depressing!
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Male 12,365
[quote]wtf i thought they only ate fish...and plants or something[/quote]

They`ll eat what they can eat. That`s the way of things. Some animals are very restricted in what they can eat, but most will eat anything they`re physically capable of using as food.
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Male 820
This is why I hate birds.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Really, the only purpose bunnies have is to be eaten. They`re like the hamburgers of nature. Every large predator eats them.[/quote]

Including humans. People used to farm rabbits for food. It`s thought they were introduced to Britain deliberately for that reason. It certainly made a lot of sense before industrial scale farming.

Dawkins is right about this - morality is something humans superimpose on nature. It has no feelings, no sentiment, no purpose.
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Female 477
wtf i thought they only ate fish...and plants or something
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Male 2,868
"the faculty of compassion...

a strange evolutionary bi-product really."

Not really that strange- compassion helps social animals bond with one another, something which has been key to human survival. Individually, humans are weak, slow and fragile. In groups we are a powerful force of nature.

Our compassion for small furry things has helped us as well- our relationship with dogs has been mutually beneficial for both species. And as anyone living in an impoverished country or stranded group of people will tell you, compassion for small animals does not override hunger.
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Male 5,314
hahaha, he drowned him!!!
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Female 3,562
Really, the only purpose bunnies have is to be eaten. They`re like the hamburgers of nature. Every large predator eats them.
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Male 1,364
thats a clever bird. to drown your prey...wow.
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Male 210
This depressed me =_=
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Female 4,447
:O BUNNEH! Oh wait, I don`t like bunnies. Go nature!
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Male 25,416
wow, poor rabbit!
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Male 15,510
I blame global warming for this
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Female 79
Awes..He is health consious...he cleaned his food first..
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Male 7,585
true
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Male 601
The universe is indifferent, yes. "Good" and "bad" carry no meaning to plants, animals, or inanimate objects. They are words we created and apply to reality.
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Male 658
The storybehind this.
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Male 569
wait, how did religion get here? i don`t see the original comment.. O_o
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Male 333
If you`re an atheist fine. If you`re a Christian fine. Just shut up and don`t worry about it, belief or lack of belief in religion shouldn`t even matter on a social basis. Some people try to convert others to a religion or to a belief of the absence of religion, that`s just what they do. Get over it.
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Male 1,815
Zuthilios, are you serious?
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Female 3,574
yum, rabbit.

In other news, nature is awesome.
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Female 838
When I was really young I saw a big bull frog eat a chickadee it was truly disturbing!
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Male 915
it`s called nonmoral nature. has nothing to do with atheism r-tards.
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Male 110
Yes Photoshop, not to be rude but its kind of obvious. :s
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Female 683
I really never liked birds..
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Male 322
as god is my witness,
i will avenge you bunny...
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Female 3,696
LOL!! He washes it first XD
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Male 129
photoshop?
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Male 441
On a lighter note. Aww the bunny got eaten. =(

I thought they didn`t eat mammals? Only fish?

I wonder if it choked on the bones.
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Male 52
@bombaytech I`m really having trouble understanding your statement. What unprovable generalizations are you referring to, if your talking about the statement "there is no god." than while unprovable is hardly a generalization. When it comes atheist`s forcing their opinions on others I believe your referring to the issue of evolution, and while it is your first amendment right to deny radiocarbon dating just as it is your right to argue that Lee Harvey Oswald was not the real killer of John Kennedy during history class, evolution has been widely accepted. If the point you argue is that America is overly secular in general, than this was established in article 11 of the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli when it states "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion", and was drafted by individuals who fit snugly under the umbrella term "the founding fathers". Clarify what you mean when you say that atheist "
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Male 441
I`ve been seeing tons of Atheists lately trying to push the ideals of non-belief on everybody they meet.

It seems to be part of human nature that when you are a practitioner in any belief type, even if you belief is that you don`t believe, you want people to agree with you.

I still find it odd though considering the fact that Atheists don`t have any guidelines that tell them to convert people towards Atheism, yet they try to do it so often.

Not that every Atheist is out to convert everyone, nor is every Christian or Muslim trying. But those religions actively state "go out and convert." So I at least understand WHY they are doing it.
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Female 7,833
I think the very first thing that small cute animals learn from their mother is- `everything eats you`- which explains why my guinea pigs are so paranoid!
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Male 251
@Rockwell-

Look at it this way, you fed the ducks AND the gulls :D
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Male 197
Aren`t we a product of nature? Therefore nature can be cruel and kind.
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Female 275
omg omg he ate the cutest baby bunny! I used to like herons, but no. no more of that. I thought only crows pulled crap like this.
Birds are douchebags.
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Male 193
om nom nom
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Male 2,688
I`m atheist... I don`t see a reason to force my opinions on anyone. But I WILL defend myself and my opinions when they are called out by people who can`t respect my right to an opinion.
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Male 567
That`s how you get faster bunnies.
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Female 24
I don`t really know a lot of atheists that force their opinions on others -.-
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Male 151
I like Atheists, because they pick on people who force their opinions on others, make wild, unprovable generalizations, and go to extremes to prove a point.

Wait...
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Male 237
Meh, can I feel indifferent too? I eat rabbit and I do like it, can`t complain on the bird`s meal choice.
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Male 593
I adore Richard Dawkins! Nice story btw RockWell, that`s just what happens in the animal kingdom. However brutal or harsh it may seem, pretty much everything is lunch :)
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Female 1,181
hell yeah i would, Glendower.
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Male 6,694
I guess it goes down easier when its wet and dead.
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Male 1,958
.....
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Male 2,085
Not a big fan of rabbit meat, maybe because I had a pet rabbit.
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Female 149
*huggles own pet rabbit* T_T
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Male 293
nomnomnomnomnom!!!!!
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Female 237
I didn`t know they ate bunnies! O.o Damn. lol
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Female 172
wtfff why qould u put this upp??? i wanna cryy
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Male 56
One time me and my wife were feeding some baby ducks at a lake and things were nice and pleasant, when a flock of seagulls comes out of no where and dives down and gulps up all 5 baby ducks.... We just stood there with the bread in our hands starring blankly at the water.... My wife hates seagulls....
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Male 333
God I hate birds...except eagles :D
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Male 953
I prefer my bunny dipped in BBQ sauce... but to each their own I guess.
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Female 839
poor widdle wabbit
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Male 336
It may be cute but if you were starving in the woods and found that cute little bunny, chances are you would eat it, too.
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Male 271
the faculty of compassion...

a strange evolutionary bi-product really.
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Male 4,680
Reminds me of that video when that pelican swallows a pigeon while it`s still alive. At least this heron had the decency to drown its prey before eating it.
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Male 2,868
While there is truth in this image and Dawkins` words, my heart sank a little when I saw this.
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Female 3,828
LOL eww
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Male 153
I agreed, Dick Dawkins...
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Male 257
POOR BUNNY! D:

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Male 391
That`s actually probably the most humane (irony) thing that bird could do. Drowning seems better than being digested alive.
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Male 2,440
Sure rabbits may be cute, but remember, the fox has babies to feed too, so f*ck the rabbit.

Ain`t that a bitch?
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Female 5,222
AHHH DX
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Male 1,386
D:
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Female 9,401
Jesus Christ, that thing is huge.
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Male 977
Damn, bird... you stone cold.
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Male 2,148
Oh God, that`s horrible.
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Male 19,840
Link: Richard Dawkins On Nature [Pic] [Rate Link] - We`ll summarize if for you: Nature`s a bitch.
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