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Date: 08/15/10 07:06 AM

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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 7:35 am
    Link: Nerd Twitters About Ground Zero Controversy - Religion would be great if it didn`t come with wars and hate, right?
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    Maksie99 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 7:39 am
    Win.
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    YoMommaSoFat Male 13-17
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    August 15, 2010 at 7:43 am
    Witty.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 7:50 am
    LOL @ Muslim troll.
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    K3vin Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 7:50 am
    he has a point...
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    August 15, 2010 at 7:54 am
    LOL! Brilliant! I wonder what the haters of "freedom of religion" will have to say about this.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    August 15, 2010 at 7:55 am
    Everyone they killed was a volunteer. No victims here
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:01 am
    Except McDonalds isn`t actively waging war on/infiltrating western culture and society, nor is it founded on ridiculous and outdated religious ideals in order to justify killing innocent civilians.

    I`m usually all about the live and let live, but come on.

    You don`t think putting a religiously iconic building on a place where your religion (or at least fundementalists of that religion)killed a heap of people is pushing it?

    Go ahead and build your mosque by all means, but not there.

    Putting it there is a slap in the face. And I`m not even American!
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    xhaseox Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:08 am
    why not just leave ground zero as ground zero
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    x13purplesta Female 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:13 am
    I think he is being smart (and funny). Maybe some just don`t get the joke.
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    Billy62 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:15 am
    "Go ahead and build your mosque by all means, but not there."

    It`s a good thing the mosque is several blocks away then.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:15 am
    Reignblazer said:"You don`t think putting a religiously iconic building on a place where your religion (or at least fundementalists of that religion)killed a heap of people is pushing it?"

    I must hace missed the part about the mosque being for fundementalists.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:17 am
    Reignblazer said:"And I`m not even American!"

    Maybe that`s why you don`t get the concept of "Freedom of religion"
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    PinkAndGreen Female 13-17
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:23 am
    I think that the mosque at Ground Zero is unnecessary. They don`t HAVE to build it there. Do I think they have a right to build it there? They do. Do I think it`s putting unnecessary salt on a wound? Absolutely.

    It`s kind of the way I think of those nutters from the Westboro Baptist Church protesting at fallen soldier`s funerals. Do I LIKE what they are doing? Not one freaking bit. Do I think they have the right to do it? Grudgingly, yes. But within limits.

    I just wish that people wouldn`t be pushing the "Freedom of ______" just to see how far it`ll go before it breaks.

    I don`t even know WHY they thought that was a good idea. They had to have known people would make a big deal out of it. I can definitely see people trying to burn it down, or vandalize it, which they had to have known was a possibility.
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    pui Female 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:24 am
    lol
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    pui Female 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:25 am
    I don`t think anything of religious nature should be built there. Put office buildings, apartments and a memorial.
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    xhaseox Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:34 am
    nevermind trying to burn it down if they build it there chances are good that everyone in new york who lost someone on 9/11 will go there and make sure that theres nothing left of it but ashes.
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    Sock1122 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:34 am
    lmao
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    shaboinkin Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:39 am
    "I can definitely see people trying to burn it down, or vandalize it, which they had to have known was a possibility. "

    ...or fly a plane into their building

    eh? Not funny? Ok, I`ll leave.
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    scromlette Female 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:42 am
    I don`t think it is fair to hold an entire religion responsible for the actions of a few zealots.
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    scromlette Female 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:43 am
    And perhaps, instead of a Mosque they should build some kind of Universal Religion center? Somewhere that celebrates all religions and preaches coexistence and religious tolerance.
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:06 am
    american xenophobia at it`s finest?
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    docwatson Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:08 am
    Any Americans saying they shouldn`t be allowed to build a mosque there need their heads checked. Freedom of religion and freedom to peacefully assemble are there in our federal governing laws for a reason. Discriminating a group because of some bullpoo that a minority did is ludicrous.

    If we were to do THAT, then I`m sorry, Christians, but you`d be SOL for basically the rest of eternity for the atrocities committed in the name of your god (Which I might add is regarded to be the same as the Islamic god).
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    hi2pi Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:10 am
    it turns out, reading some of these posts, that americans hate their own freedoms; are ready to drop them in order to exercise revenge.

    burn it down? really? why are you trying to propel yourselves back into the dark ages?
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    tedgp Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:11 am
    All this talk about a religious arean near "ground zero". Yet 20 million people`s lives have been devestated across teh ocean.


    America. It`s about time you get your priorities sorted out. Whenever anythign happens to your country, you come begging to other countries. it`s abotu time you repaid that debt.
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:14 am
    @jtrebowski

    If you read my post at all you`d see that I said:
    `Go ahead and build your mosque by all means`

    If you`re going to be a smartass, at least read my post first.

    As for the mosque being `several blocks away`; if that is true than I don`t see what the fuss is about.
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    ohplease Male 50-59
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:19 am
    If this is stopped then the terrorist`s win. Freedom of religion, oh except for yours.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:21 am
    @Reignblazer: It`s two blocks away, so I guess there`s no fuss :)
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    Billy62 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:25 am
    PinkAndGreen: "I don`t even know WHY they thought that was a good idea. They had to have known people would make a big deal out of it."

    Well, according to the guy in charge:

    "The location was precisely a key selling point for the group of Muslims who bought the building in July. A presence so close to the World Trade Center, `where a piece of the wreckage fell,` said Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, the cleric leading the project, `sends the opposite statement to what happened on 9/11.`

    `We want to push back against the extremists,` added Imam Feisal, 61."
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    Max_Normal Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:49 am
    I read something very astute the other day (might even have been on here):
    Islam is not just a religion, it is a political system and a way of life. For that very reason Islam is utterly incompatible with democracy (and therefore freedom itself).

    Kind of makes a mockery of your ill-thought out "Freedom of Religion" doesn`t it?
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    premierwondr Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:58 am
    I haven`t been keeping up with this at all.
    How far is the Mosque? Across the street from ground zero and all I`ve gotta say is you gotta be drating kidding me...but if it`s a block or two away go for it.
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 10:12 am
    I never understood why people are so against having a Muslim facility near ground zero. I guarantee there is a 7-11 within 3 blocks and no one is complaining about that.
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    APJ311 Male 13-17
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    August 15, 2010 at 10:23 am
    It`s perhaps not the best place, but I don`t think that anyone has any right to damage or destroy a mosque built there. You cannot say that because some crazy Muslims hijacked planes that a Mosque should not be allowed. Almost all Muslims are very nice people (from what I`ve seen, they tend to be a lot more generous and understanding than many Christians) and it is unfair to discriminate against them because the actions of a few in the Islamic population.
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    eybulldog5 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 10:39 am
    did anyone not laugh bcuz his name is anal (anil) dash?
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    Midas-Method Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 10:43 am
    @ Max_Normal

    The way the Medieval Catholic Church was integrated into society surely made it incompatible with democracy...

    Islam makes provisions for a religious/political community, but that doesn`t mean that all Muslims will always take that message literally or even see the need for that.

    The way I understand it, Islamic theologists believed that they had reached an apex of theology for a very long time, and then in the 19th century the theology split, with modernists advocating somewhat of a westernization and others supporting Wahhabism in rejection of colonialism and imperialism.

    It`s those kind of attitudes, i.e., the interpretations of Islam and the Qu`ran, which make democracy and Islam incompatible on a local level (as opposed to a universal level).

    Anyway, /rant off :-)
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    ZacchNasty Male 13-17
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    August 15, 2010 at 10:46 am
    (Which I might add is regarded to be the same as the Islamic god).

    @docwatson

    No no no no common misconception that Muslims and Christians make. Definitely not the same God. We Christians believe that God had a son, Jesus... you`ve probably heard of him ;) but in Islam Allah has no children
  37. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    August 15, 2010 at 10:47 am
    @ Max Normal: No it doesn`t. The same can be said about Catholicism. Besides, even if it is a political sytem and a way of life, unless they try ti impose themselves on others (i.e evangelize), So what?
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    oxyl Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 10:49 am
    @Max Normal - pick up some books by a historian by the name of Bernard Lewis. An eminent expert of Islam and the Middle East region...contributed greatly in my understanding of the dynamics of it all.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 10:59 am
    Some of the people here seem to believe the lie that it`s planned to be built ON ground zero. It`s not, just somewhere slightly near it. If anyone has a problem with it being built slightly near ground zero, you need to get yourself checked :/

    I don`t agree with ANY religious structure being built ON ground zero. Thankfully, that is not the issue.
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    rainbowfarts Female 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:02 am
    I second Anil`s thoughts! Say no to super sizing!
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    LemonTarte Female 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:07 am
    "did anyone not laugh bcuz his name is anal (anil) dash?.."

    Nope. You`re just a douche.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:37 am
    I think anyone complaining should go to Ground Zero, and stand on Ground Zero, set up camp on ground zero, camp there for a year or two, just to make sure they don`t build there.

    That way they won`t be on the internetz complaining and they can finish renovating the building they`ve been praying in for years three blocks away in peace.
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    ZNaught Male 13-17
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:37 am
    @LillianDulci: I had no issue, until I hear it was opening on 9/11. If that is not a mocking move, I don`t know what is.
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:39 am
    In all honesty, if I was in their (pro GZ mosque) shoes, I`d just say drat it, avoid the poostorm, and go build somewhere else.
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    SuperSmash Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:43 am
    I think building a mosque on Ground Zero is a great idea. Among other reasons, it`s kind of a big F.U. to those who are against us.
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    sheaton319 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:54 am
    @Baalthazaq
    They have not been using it for years, it was just purchased last year.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 12:02 pm
    Zacchnasty:
    "No no no common misconception"

    Actually it`s a correct conception. Unless you don`t think any of your other sects worship the same God. Or many people in your own particular flavour of Christianity.

    Do you all, universally, agree, on every detail that God said, meant, did and intended, everything, that all the other sects say he said, meant, did and intended?

    (The answer is no by the way).

    You either "don`t follow the same God", or "do follow the same God but disagree on details of that God".

    For example, Muslims believe God sent Jesus through virgin birth to mankind, but that there is no reason to call him the Son of God as that implies sex.

    Also, biblically, Jesus has no monopoly on the title.
    Everyone is (Galatians 3:26, John 3:2)
    Jacob is (Exodus 4:22)
    Solomon is (2 Samuel 7:13)
    Adam is (Luke 3:38)
    etc.

    We just think it`s the same meaning for Jesus.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 12:18 pm
    1) Fair point, it`s only been a year that they`ve been using it for prayers. The opposition has only come when they want to change it into something that gives back to the community as opposed to being just for Muslims, which it is now.

    2) The Ground Zero Mosque, is neither at Ground Zero, nor a Mosque. "the" however, remains accurate. How inflamed are you at "the"? That`s how inflamed you should be overall.

    3) Interesting article on the Shinto Shrine at Pearl Harbour.
  49. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 12:28 pm
    This is ridiculous. This is a fallacy of composition <PERIOD>. If they want to build a community center there let them.
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    xtreme_dude Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 1:10 pm
    That is the single best Twitter post ever.
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    mikeacello Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    1- The mosque is on private property, so there`s nothing the government can do anyways.
    2- Seriously? Not all Muslims are terrorists. Building a mosque near Ground Zero isn`t supporting Al Qaeda, it`s allowing Muslim American citizens to have a place to worship.
    3- There are also strip clubs at ground zero, closer than the mosque will be.
    4- It won`t actually be on ground zero, but in the vicinity. There`s a lot of stuff within the distance the Mosque will be. It`s just a crowded area.
    5- One of the ideas America was founded on was religious freedom, and not letting people build houses of worship opens the door to further religious oppression.
    6- Umm... religious intolerance kind of fuels terrorism. If the US sends out a signal that we hate people of islamic faith, Muslims won`t be too happy. The best way to prevent another 9/11 isn`t to piss off AN ENTIRE RELIGION
    7- LET THEM BUILD THE MOSQUE because f*ck it, that`s why
  52. Profile photo of simim23
    simim23 Female 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 1:23 pm
    McDonald`s doesn`t kill Americans. Americans who don`t know how to properly balance their diet kill themselves. No one`s making you eat fast food.
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    miguel_d Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    @simim23

    Islam also doesn`t kill Americans. People that choose to follow extremist ideals do. Yet people still associate Islam with terrorism and think that every mosque is gathering centre for suicide bombers
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    D3rAnG3d Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 2:11 pm
    McDonalds doesn`t kill people.... obese people who continue to shove their face with big macs and fries kill themselves.
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    henryhendrix Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 2:34 pm
    According to this person`s logic, Smith and Wesson kills people.
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    wonky Male 40-49
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    August 15, 2010 at 2:36 pm
    Its a crazy ..crazy..crazy.. world X
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 15, 2010 at 2:47 pm
    I`m against this mosque but the constitution allows such nonsense so be it. It`s a big, giant religious F-U to all the families of the victims of 9/11. They`ll revisit the site and hopefully bring a tomato or egg to throw while they`re there. My problem with this whole situation is they`ve twisted it into another way to hate gay people. Some douche-bag thinks that opening a gay bar next door will drive away religious fanatics. As if gay people are terrorist repellent. Obama comes out in support of the "Terrorists Win Mosque" but won`t revoke DADT or come out in support of Judge Walkers level headed decision. Republicans may have a crappy message of fewer rights, more defense spending possible police state euphoria but at least they`re consistent. Democrats are too spineless to say what they believe.
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    Kalimata Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    Enough of this crap please...

    All this "patriotic" sanctioned racism is just that, racism, prejudice, and ignorance. The bombers were muslim, yes, so does that make every religion responsible for the actions of it`s followers?

    Check out your history folks, what religion is responsible for the most deaths and war in the history of the world?
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    Muslims are just as guilty of killing Americans as Americans are now guilty of killing them, thanks to the "war on terror." We`re even.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 2:57 pm
    "6- Umm... religious intolerance kind of fuels terrorism. If the US sends out a signal that we hate people of islamic faith, Muslims won`t be too happy. The best way to prevent another 9/11 isn`t to piss off AN ENTIRE RELIGION"

    Reading this part of your post it occured to me that this is not quite right. Now if you were to say, "Religion is the foundaiton for some of the worlds` most notorious acts of terrorism" this would be more accurate, I think.
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    razlem Male 13-17
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    August 15, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    What a horrible analogy. McDonalds doesn`t kill people, people kill themselves by choosing to overeat.

    It is not a wise decision to build an Islamic center in such a sensitive area, but it is certainly legal.
  62. Profile photo of AnImbroglio
    AnImbroglio Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 3:27 pm
    Islam wasn`t responsible for 9/11. Crazy extremists were. Christianity wasn`t responsible for cross burning and murdering African Americans. Crazy KKK people were. Catholics weren`t responsible for the Crusades. Tyrants in power were. It`s easy to make use of a straw man fallacy, but the reality of it is, it`s still a fallacy. People who lost loved ones in the 9/11 attacks would not be offended if they realized Islam didn`t do this. Psychopaths did this. The equivalent would be me saying all white people are responsible for black racism, because the racists were white. Or all minorities are responsible for the crimes of the Bloods, since they are primarily minority. It makes no sense.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 15, 2010 at 4:39 pm
    Blah blah blah... All religion is responsible for the hatred they spew. It separates and divides people and a the non-believer can only sit back and accept that there are corners of the planet where women are subjugated to such an extent that to look upon a womans beauty and get wood is somehow the womans fault and she must therefore be covered from head to toe in a black sack and only allowed to peek through a slit. All religion is guilty of criminal activity but forcing everyone to listen prayer calls 5 times a day is insane. It`s madness to accept it. We should be less tolerant toward religion. Tax the poo outta church. Make it too crazy expensive to own a church. I would be for that sin tax.
  64. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 4:59 pm
    @madest
    Are you serious?
    It`s not the fault of religion for violence, it`s crazy psychopaths like Al-Qaeda and KKK who like to twist its message and use it for their own questionable and nefarious purposes. I know it`s not a mosque but I would not affect my opinion as much. They want to build something there, let them.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 5:02 pm
    spot the person with allot of facebook friends now!
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    inversegrav Male 30-39
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    August 15, 2010 at 5:21 pm
    Lets just put a starbucks there like we do at every other historic site.
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    IamBored29 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 6:03 pm
    lol wasnt expecting that
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 6:32 pm
    they should be able to build w/e...but not ANOTHER McDonalds...nuff said
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 15, 2010 at 7:53 pm
    I submitted a posting with a sattelite picture of ground zero & where they`re building the mosque. Y`all gotta approve it to see it! lolz!

    "Several blocks away"? If by several you mean TWO and by blocks you mean SHORT blocks, oy!
    Since a short block (in my town at least) is about a third of a `long block` that makes it... ONE BLOCK AWAY (about 400 -600 FEET away.)
    Pieces of wreckage hit the building in question, it is that close.

    The ONLY reason to build a mosque there is to thumb their Muslim noses at us Western Infedels. It`s a long tradition in Islam to convert holy sites into mosques after conquest to show the power of Allah. Other religions do this too, but iirc it`s actually in the Koran to do this.
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    Skim Female 13-17
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:18 pm
    Lololol his name is Anil.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 8:26 pm
    @5Cats

    How exactly is this conquest? The people erecting this building are NOT affiliated with Al-Qaeda. Neither is this being snooty they simply want a place to gather. As mikeacello points out there questionable establishments near ground zero.
    No conspiracy here move along.
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    ShadowDD13 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:37 pm
    it doesnt matter if these people are affiliated with the terrorists or not, those terrorists used the Islamic religion as an excuse to kill our citizens, its the hugest slap in the face to the people who died there and their families, anyone who supports it just doesnt realize how insulting it is to build that mosque there, you have the whole damn city you could build it in, and they choose a block away from a place their religion was used as a war cry to hurt our country, its not about freedom of religion, its about simple respect, and the people who support this mosque have none for the victims and for our country
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 9:57 pm
    Oh please that`s entirely baseless.
    I have full sympathy for the people who died there, it`s only insulting and unfortunate because Al-Qaeda has tied itself to Islam.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 10:00 pm
    baseless AND incorrect.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 10:06 pm
    The REAL criminals of the atrocity was Al-Qaeda, NOT the Muslim world.
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    Homegrown71 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:20 pm
    AHAHA, Damn right Ahmed. McDonald`s needs to be taught a lesson those terrorist bastards.

    Also Al-Qaeda, Iran, Palestinian Hamas (And groups affiliated with) Chechnyan islamic extremists, European Islamic fundamentalists and pretty much a large percentage of Islamic faithfuls (Outside of the US because if I group them all i`ll just get alot of bitchin` and moanin`) all have something in common. They hate the United states and have a nice little chant to go along with it, ya know "DEATH TO AMERICA" but I guess people just kinda forget that Islamic extremists all have that in common.
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    eskimo9 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:20 pm
    What the hell Shadow? If it was a religious war they wanted, would they not have attacked the Vatican, or one of the prominent Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist or whichever religious site? They chose an economic, not religious center, *probably* because they felt that the USA, it`s economic and political choices, were going to destroy the world, or at least Al-Qaeda`s part of it.

    Saying they used Islam as a front is pretty much groundless.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:22 pm
    1 point for not employing the term `tweeting` - sort of.
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    eskimo9 Male 18-29
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    August 15, 2010 at 11:24 pm
    Again, even supposing that those groups make up a majority of "Islamic faithfuls" (I can`t disprove that fact), they aren`t pissed because they are Islamic, they are pissed because people keep drating with their countries. Think about a lot of iab posts lately: America is so fat because..., Stupid Americans do something stupid. There are a lot of nationalities who disagree with a lot of things the US does.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2010 at 1:28 am
    @eskimo
    I don`t think homegrown meant a majority? Wouldn`t 25% count as a large percentage (given the size of that particular population anyway)?
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    Dainty Female 18-29
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    August 16, 2010 at 2:44 am
    Heh. If that Vangelia Gushterova lady is for real, there wouldn`t need to be any fussing about Ground Zero and what may go there.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 16, 2010 at 5:38 am
    1.How exactly is this conquest? 2.The people erecting this building are NOT affiliated with Al-Qaeda. 3.Neither is this being snooty they simply want a place to gather.
    Well Cajun247, it`s like this:
    1. This is the greatest victory for Jihad since the Cole bombing and they (Jihadists, many of whom are also terrorists) don`t want us to forget that. The bombings in Spain & England were pretty big too, but this one`s still #1.
    2. The guy who put up a $200K deposit? Last worked as a waiter. Maybe he`s rich and just likes to take orders for cheeseburgers? ie: there`s hidden, out-of-country monies involved.
    3. There`s like 30+ mosques in NYC. They`re not bursting at the seems or anything, so WHY build a new one AT THIS SITE? Why not 10 blocks away? answer: because it`s a monument to the triumph of Jihad, that`s why.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2010 at 6:11 am
    1)Again totally unaffiliated
    2)irrelevant
    3)Here`s an interesting fact: POPULATIONS GROW!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2010 at 6:34 am
    The Cole bombing was only a victory for Al-Qaeda and Al-Qaeda alone. The 9/11 was only a victory for Al-Qaeda and Al-Qaeda alone. This construction is NOT a victory for Al-Qaeda. The reaction to this building is nothing more but misplaced anger upon the entire Muslim world. The families of the victims of the latter atrocity have right to be angry. But for God`s sake don`t direct it towards all Muslims.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2010 at 6:36 am
    Don`t affiliate these American Muslims with Jihadists or Al-Qaeda, that is a fallacy of composition.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    August 16, 2010 at 7:13 am
    I like McDonalds.
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    IamBored29 Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2010 at 8:10 am
    @Cajun247

    Why do you waste your time even talking to 5cats?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2010 at 8:42 am
    I don`t know I guess I`m just outraged at the outrage (as Jim Inhofe would say). LOL!
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    Happy_Pandas Female 13-17
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    August 16, 2010 at 8:46 am
    Actually the mosque is being built several blocks away on top of an old Burlington Coat Factory. So it`s `fine to build it any place else..` `Why there, why not some place else?` It`s `not being intolerant, no one would care if it was other places`. Okay, so, what location WOULD be acceptable? How far away from Ground Zero? Is Staten Island good?
    Except the fact when a plan to turn a former convent into a mosque and Muslim cultural center in Staten Island was protested.
    Okay, so not Staten Island.
    Let`s try Tennessee. Surely they won`t protest?
    Except they did. Murfreesboro, Tennessee, July 10. An Islamic community center was protested.
    Also, complaints about a mosque in Wilson, WI. Residents were `concerned with having a mosque in their backyard`. California. Completely on the other side of the country. Lots of liberals, right? Wrong. Mosque protests there, too. Plenty of signs saying bad things about Islam. It`s gone from just the ground zero issue to downright in
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    Happy_Pandas Female 13-17
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    August 16, 2010 at 8:50 am
    intolerance*

    Also, Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey (R) in Tennessee has said, and i quote:
    `You can even argue whether being a Muslim is actually a religion, or is it a nationality, way of life, a cult, whatever you want to call it.`
    A cult? Really? I think it`s more of a religion now... has been for quite some time.
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    apermal Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2010 at 1:21 pm
    Ummm, didn`t many Muslim Americans die on 9/11 too?
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
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    August 16, 2010 at 4:26 pm
    How many people opposed to the building of a mosque there have also voiced anger at the building of a Christian church in any city where a fundamentalist Christian has committed a crime? Are they equally outraged that a church can built in a city where a christian pro-lifer has murdered an abortion doctor? or do they manage to separate the crime from the religion then?
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    Linkenberger Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    For the debaters here (I won`t be joining you, just tossing a biscuit)...

    I assume the main reasons Americans protest things like mosques and Islamic Community Centers is because they fear it`ll bring the traditional Islamic culture, such as honour killings.

    While it should be obvious that most Muslim people in America aren`t like that, it doesn`t help that that sort of thing happens in the Islam center of Canada.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 16, 2010 at 6:58 pm
    @Happy_Pandas please see my earlier post. "several blocks away" = 2 Short Blocks = ONE BLOCK FROM BUILDING SEVEN.
    About 400-600 FEET away.
    m-kay?
    2)irrelevant
    3)Here`s an interesting fact: POPULATIONS GROW!
    You know LOTS of waiters with $200K to donate to charity?
    Populations grow? The Devil you say! Why EXACTLY do they need to grow next to Ground Zero? Why are they SO INSISTANT that the new mosque be HERE AND NO WHERE ELSE???
    THEY not US. Got it? WE would gladly let them build a "friendship centre" a respectable distance away from OUR (meaning `western civilization`s`) holy sites.
    I have a cool idea! Lets build a gay friendship centre in Mecca! lolz!
    YOU support bigotry and intolerance. Admit it!
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    eskimo9 Male 18-29
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    August 16, 2010 at 10:47 pm
    Just to throw more fuel in the fire:

    I am all for people practicing their own religion, wherever and whenever they like, insofar as it does not go against the laws of the country (ie, no ritualistic killings in Australia please).

    But why is it that when we travel to an Islamic nation, we must abide by their customs (clothing, observing Ramadan, not preaching other faiths), but when Muslims are in Australia, they are given every leniency, in that they can wear full face-covering clothes in banks and governemnt buildings, among other things?
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    Vindictive Female 18-29
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    August 17, 2010 at 4:43 am
    This issue is actually very simple.

    Yes, they have every right in the world to build their center. They`re citizens of the US and it`s in the constitution that they can worship anywhere they like. Is it a giant slap in the face? Absolutely. Does it show indescribable insensitivity? God yes! If they want to build their center then they`ll have to deal with the hate and outrage that is stemming from their actions.

    Or maybe some law could be passed that NO places of worship can be withing x-amount-of-miles-whatever of ground zero? This doesn`t seem like that hard of an issue to deal with.
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    Vindictive Female 18-29
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    August 17, 2010 at 4:46 am
    @Listypoos

    That was actually similar to what I initially thought of as an example. Again, I think both groups have the legal RIGHT to place their houses of worship anywhere they like but it`s insensitive and cruel. Additionally, the people of America have the right to protest these places. If the mosque is build I imagine that happening immediately.
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    Dutch-Master Male 18-29
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    August 17, 2010 at 5:24 am
    its an idiot idea to build a mosque there, even more idiot to allow it
    there is nothing rascist or discriminating about it, its just way too sensitive
    lets blow up something in Iran and build a church on the spot
    u get ur head cut off
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 17, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    I find your lack of evidence disturbing.

    Gay friendship center in Mecca you say? I`d support that at as well.

    hehe
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 17, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    If other people wanted to build a church or a synagogue there I wouldn`t feel any different 5Cats.

    Would you?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 17, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    On the #2 issue excuse me I should have said
    affiliated how?
    A lot of people deposit their money in an offshore bank account. Why? To avoid taxes!
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    August 17, 2010 at 6:20 pm
    It wasn`t Jews or Christians flying those aircraft Cajun...

    Actually there`s a blogger trying to negotiate a gay friendship centre IN THE ZERO MOSQUE building.
    He`s not having any luck...
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 17, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    Likewise 5Cats it wasn`t just any Muslim flying those aircraft. They were working for Al Qaeda. What I see, just as you demonstrate, is that these people are being tied to Al Qaeda and it`s wrong. You accuse me supporting intolerance and bigotry when it`s you who is supporting it. It`s not the building that disturbs me it`s the press it`s been getting.
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    Happy_Pandas Female 13-17
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    August 18, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    IT DOES NOT MATTER if it`s two, or several blocks, or several MILES. You did NOTHING against my point, because the fact STILL stands that it is NOT on ground zero.
    The fact is, Muslims are being discriminated against in this country; the Islamic community center that`s planned on being built near ground zero is just another reason to discriminate. It`s only getting so much coverage because a.) it`s CLOSE to ground zero, and b.) people are making such an uproar over that, that it has caught the national media`s attention.
    *Plenty* other mosques and Islamic community centers that were planned and/or built in the last two months that were protested didn`t really catch on to national news, because it was just a plain old Islamic community center or mosque.. but people STILL protested and caused an uproar in their local community. Just because this has caught national attention doesn`t make it okay to discriminate against a whole group of people for one extremist group`s actions.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 18, 2010 at 7:59 pm
    If anything Happy Pandas if they don`t carry out their plan to build this center that would actually be a real victory for Al Qaeda. They really want to show the world how much we don`t like Muslims.
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    Uh_No Male 18-29
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    August 19, 2010 at 5:02 pm
    Too late: http://daryllang.com/blog/4421
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    Oscola Male 18-29
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    August 23, 2010 at 10:10 am
    My God some Americans are really drating stupid. I`m atheist just for starters, but I wouldn`t tar all Christians with the KKK brush, or all catholics with the paedophilic priest one, people are people and most people are good people regardless of religion. Of course you`re only going to hear the negative things about other religions, it doesn`t sell papers if the headline is "today 700 million Muslims did absolutely nothing resembling terrorism." Don`t believe the hype.

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