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  1. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2010 at 10:16 pm
    Link: Left Vs. Right: Where Do You Fall? - Informative graphic on the main differences between the two sides of the mainstream political spectrum.
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    fivezones Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:25 am
    I think both sides suck so I vote independent by evaluating each candidate. If more people did so maybe we wouldn`t have such dratting polititians.
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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:25 am
    I`m a little bit of both but tend to lean more left.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:26 am
    Im right handed.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:28 am
    One of these is sustainable. The other is not.

    Nice post Davy!
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    genericuser Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:30 am
    so... this is just a chart of stereotypes.
  7. Profile photo of vicious_liar
    vicious_liar Male 13-17
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:32 am
    I don`t know about your gravity, but usually I fall downwards.
  8. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:32 am
    I believe most of the regulars here know where each other stands.
  9. Profile photo of xiquiripat
    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:34 am
    It`s weird how the liberal and conservative colors in the U.S. are switched. Typically red is supposed to be the progressive/ revolutionary color and blue for traditional values. I think that`s how it is in most of Europe I wonder why it got changed over here.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:36 am
    This isn`t accurate. Specifically, the right it claims "Don`t interfere with society or social lives" Tell that to the Schaivo family. "Equality is opportunity"?!? To conservatives? I think Obama would disagree. If freedom was important to the right they would have resisted more forcefully the patriot act.. just sayin`.
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    Kainonis Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:36 am
    This is incredibly biased.
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:37 am
    I`m mostly left, although for a couple of issues I prefer the right wing`s view of things.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:38 am
    Looks like its impossible one can live without the other
  14. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:38 am
    One of these is sustainable. The other is not.
    The river changes course sometimes, but keeps flowing.
    The mountain is eroded until nothing is left.
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    mathgirl12 Female 13-17
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:41 am
    left. all zee way
  16. Profile photo of GiveChase
    GiveChase Female 18-29
    535 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 8:44 am
    Yep, every single individual of these two parties is exactly as is written. Mhmm.
  17. Profile photo of mystery08
    mystery08 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:44 am
    I never understood how people can define their outlook on life as one of two predetermined sets of ideology.
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    ardystic Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:45 am
    i fall everywhere.

    because i`m fat.
  19. Profile photo of SvampeBob
    SvampeBob Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:55 am
    @Vicious liar :-|
  20. Profile photo of Nocciolina
    Nocciolina Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:55 am
    lol vicious_liar, yeah, me too
  21. Profile photo of SPARTAKITTY
    SPARTAKITTY Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:55 am
    Leftie :3
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:57 am
    lies! media can`t be all left wing, go turn on a tv
    and if you put `communist` on the left, you have to put `fascist` on the right
  23. Profile photo of taylor_stone
    taylor_stone Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 8:57 am
    Left...
  24. Profile photo of Keyh
    Keyh Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:08 am
    @GiveChase

    These are the extremes of each of the 2 sides of the political spectrum. You won`t see anyone that fits into either of these entirely, because they are both flawed and it would be stupid to conform specifically to one or the other.

    Neither in and of itself is good for any society. The left wing ideals create a society too dependent on government and others, and the right wing ideals create a society too independent and selfish.

    There are times where one ideal is better for the situation, and other times where it is not.
  25. Profile photo of Originalform
    Originalform Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:09 am
    WHOAH! What if C-A-T really spelled Dog? Thats heavy Ogre.
  26. Profile photo of mrbenn
    mrbenn Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:17 am
    You have to start as far as possible to the left when you`re young, because as you get older you become more and more right
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    Ricgus3 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:17 am
    wow. when looking at it like this I realise that red sucks big time
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    JimboSlice Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:18 am
    whoever made this wasted a lot of time and energy. overgeneralizing and what appear to be assumptions (im just assuming) on the majority of this makes me think the artist is full of poo... or at least not full of knowledge.
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    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:21 am
    ECKshully, I believe that this is only one axis when two are needed.

    For instance, the idea that the "Right" portrayed here doesn`t interfere with Social Lives is easily disproven.

    I prefer Pournelle`s Political Axes, HERE
  30. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:24 am
    @JimboSlice.

    "overgeneralizing and what appear to be assumptions"

    It`s a pretty fair assessment of what those two wings of thought represent. If you don`t believe you match either of these definitions, then simply don`t claim that you are one of them.

    Just as you don`t claim to be Christian if you don`t believe in god and then complain that the definition of "Christian" is unfair for not including you.
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    bmh Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:24 am
    Anyone notice that the parent was female and the adult male? Because adults with careers can`t be female and loving parents can`t be male, right?
  32. Profile photo of EricWRN
    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:25 am
    i hate politicians so bad!
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    kairobert Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:30 am
    It also seems like the left know a lot more about what the left is than the right know what the right is.
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    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:31 am
    It is pretty dratin sad though how many people can put a "brand name" on their entire sociopolitical perspective. It`s even more sad that people actually think that politicians who label themselves with these brand names actually respect any of the ideals contained within.
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    danthew Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:35 am
    Being left wing I`m obviously biased, but this doesn`t seem to paint the right wing in a good light. Any right wingers care to disagree?
  36. Profile photo of EricWRN
    EricWRN Male 30-39
    590 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 9:38 am
    danthew... you think "equality > freedom" is a positive thing?!
  37. Profile photo of zrawmutorcs
    zrawmutorcs Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:51 am
    Yea this was definitely liberal biased.
  38. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:53 am
    "Yea this was definitely liberal biased."

    Can you explain what makes you think that?
  39. Profile photo of Oystah
    Oystah Female 40-49
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    August 25, 2010 at 9:55 am
    I consider myself to be a moderate conservative. I fall mostly to the right, especially in the top half of this chart, but not so much on the bottom part. *shields self from stones being thrown*
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    thirst4icet Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:00 am
    definitely only liberal based.... too bad
  41. Profile photo of Ascaris
    Ascaris Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:01 am
    Americans actually need this to know what side they`re on ?
  42. Profile photo of ChainsawNbud
    ChainsawNbud Male 50-59
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:03 am
    A lot of this chart doesn`t make sense. Conservatives don`t interfere with society and social lives???? All liberals are pacifists???
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    tvremote Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:07 am
    It seems pretty balanced to me, I see though that some thing it`s liberal biased. That`s interesting because I saw it as a bit conservative biased. Maybe it`s just that you naturally empathize with the side you most agree with.
  44. Profile photo of ElSombrero
    ElSombrero Male 13-17
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:07 am
    Go Independents!!!
  45. Profile photo of YoSoyNoob
    YoSoyNoob Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:13 am
    Yea I have a problem with the Right wing side. I am republican and have grown up republican. However my parents weren`t cold they showed love and taught me to love others. I actually started college to be a social worker. Until I saw how nearly everyone was defending people that abuse the system. I love many ideas that Liberals have; I just think in practice it just doesn`t work. Like communism if no one took advantage of the system it would work great. While I don`t agree with same sex marriage I have no problem with people choosing a same sex partner. This whole thing seemed to show why the left wing is "Good" and the right wing is "Bad".
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    AcidJazz90 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:21 am
    danthew... I`m probably "right winged". I believe in free markets, limited government, etc.

    I think Freedom and Equality go hand in hand. What is depicted from Equality from the left generally has nothing to do with treating people equally. I really don`t want to start a war here but giving to a certain group because statistically they are down is NOT leveling the playing field. You`re putting the bias into whatever group you decide to subsidize.

    Hating on a race is racism. Helping a race is racism. If you connect racism with only a negative stigma, just realize that pushing one up has the relative effect of pushing the rest down. I`d rather people just take a neutral stance. That to me is equality.

    I actually found the stats on the left for supporting gay rights lower than I expected. I personally find that the left tends to be more for social freedom than economic freedom and vice versa for the right. Again... why not both?

    My
  47. Profile photo of xiquiripat
    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:25 am
    Ideologically, I`m more of an old-school liberal or libertarian. In practice I`m a centrist. As far as red vs. blue goes I have positions that would piss both sides off.
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    cousinrayray Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:30 am
    hard to read since its just the extremes
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    Boredered Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:33 am
    Imma be right, because hawks are so bad ass
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    MrSchreiber Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:33 am
    It baffles me every day that anyone believes politics benefit from having parties involved. We should be electing people based on who they are and what they believe. I`d bet that the segment of any population that falls ENTIRELY into any one party`s ideals is staggeringly tiny.
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    Same4Walls Female 18-29
    351 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 10:40 am
    I feel like I grew up in a right wing home. And as soon as I could form my own opinions I decided I hate the government and politics. So...I`ll leave it at that.
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    IchBinErica Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:42 am
    tl;dr Sorry ADD kicked in.
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    shipyard Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:42 am
    Eh, the person that made this shows themselves to be slightly left winged themselves, but still a good effort.

    A few of the lines disturb me, but not enough to rant about.
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    FoSchizle Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 10:50 am
    This is just BS.
  55. Profile photo of 0zzyFan
    0zzyFan Male 13-17
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:00 am
    TL;DR not interested.
  56. Profile photo of punk7634
    punk7634 Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:01 am
    @chainsawNbud

    It`s not saying that conservatives don`t interfere with society or all liberals are pacifists. it`s defining both ends of the spectrum. Most people and parties fall somewhere towards the middle. There are diehard liberals and conservatives that are polar opposites like this chart.
  57. Profile photo of Heureux
    Heureux Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:06 am
    lots of mistakes in that.
  58. Profile photo of pui
    pui Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:07 am
    ... I seem to be pretty much in the middle.
  59. Profile photo of jg0nz
    jg0nz Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:15 am
    This image= internetarguments.jpg
  60. Profile photo of Billy62
    Billy62 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:17 am
    This is definitely biased towards , because it portrays them as having good logic and reason behind their values, when they`re really just . It seems to imply has values that are somehow wrong.

    Also, it`s not perfect- I`m generally , but I believe in . And of course, I`m indicative of the entire ideology. Plus, have you seen what the politicians from have done! That`s not !
  61. Profile photo of madduck
    madduck Female 50-59
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:17 am
    Not done here then- no way do that many people believe in God!!
  62. Profile photo of ThreeEdge
    ThreeEdge Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:23 am
    Um yeah....well anyway I`m in the middle. I say circumstances influence what to think about people and society. I hate generalizing anything.
  63. Profile photo of Nerdfighter0
    Nerdfighter0 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:27 am
    This isn`t biases AT ALL!
  64. Profile photo of Nerdfighter0
    Nerdfighter0 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:28 am
    biased*
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    _kiersten_ Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:32 am
    Well, based on this I am definitely more to the left. Though that was obvious already. I still believe/do some things that would be considered more to the right though. Like how I would raise my child. But everything else is to the left ._.
  66. Profile photo of mikeacello
    mikeacello Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:35 am
    Yup, even after reading this chart I`m left-wing. Just cuz it`s the best side, though.
  67. Profile photo of BrimstoneOne
    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:39 am
    This is a better depiction of what is "left" and "right".

    Political Compass
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    ulookstupid Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:43 am
    @Billy62 - EXACTLY!!!
  69. Profile photo of mmill928
    mmill928 Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:46 am
    It seems pretty spot-on, except the part at the top involving interference in social lives. In general, the left wants to leave your social life alone but interfere with your finances, while the right wants to leave your finances alone but interfere with your social life. You know, morals and ethics and all that.
  70. Profile photo of Buiadh
    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:47 am
    Could`ve told you before this that i`m a leftie.

    Interesting infographic though.
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    Luv2Snowbord Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:51 am
    I`m on the right with everything on this graph except for religion, and I`m an architect. Always considered myself more
    in the middle.
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    Luv2Snowbord Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:53 am
    mmill the right want`s to leave your social life alone and wants to leave your finances alone. Only exception is abortion because most righties tend to be religious.
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    darkgear6 Male 70 & Over
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    August 25, 2010 at 11:58 am
    none of the above
  74. Profile photo of Mantolwen
    Mantolwen Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 12:04 pm
    Slightly right, but mostly in the middle.
  75. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 12:12 pm
    Why I`m a libertarian leaning liberal living in leaning populist nation.
  76. Profile photo of Tehorn
    Tehorn Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 12:14 pm
    wow... i don`t think it`s that clever to just slice the political spectrum into two parts, i mean i count myself as liberal but for my thoughts liberalism is a long way away from comunism Oo
    in fact, i hate comunism!
    And there`s so much more stuff wrong for e.g.: Left side is liberal (lat. liber = free), so how come the right side chooses freedom if they`re not liberal themselves? This chart is totally f`cked up.

    But South Park taught me one thing: You have to choose, so, i`ll take the middle way.
  77. Profile photo of Crucible
    Crucible Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 12:21 pm
    I like abortion, gay marriage, and guns

    What do I do?
  78. Profile photo of bleong
    bleong Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 12:30 pm
    I think this is a gross stereotyping of a political landscape that no longer fits on a 2-pole scale.

    The Left wants to interfere with Society and the Right doesn`t? Abortion, gay-marriage, and keeping marijuana illegal all seem to be issues the right takes an active role legislating a moral stance.

    Republicans raise children using Fear? Another horrible stereotype.

    I think that infographs can be dangerous in that they, many times, literally label groups without the nuances necessary to understand the big picture. Enough to slander others, but not enough to be fair.

  79. Profile photo of skypirate
    skypirate Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 12:32 pm
    oh wow....do people really think they can fit an entire political philosophy in one picture...let alone 2
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    connor53 Male 13-17
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    August 25, 2010 at 12:34 pm
    The part that really stuck with me is at the bottom where on the left that says helping those who cannot help themselves. They left out the part about helping those who can, but won`t help themselves.
  81. Profile photo of SarahofBorg
    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 12:38 pm
    Interesting and accurate infographic. This doesn`t mean that you HAVE to agree with every position, it just means this is what those parties actually stand for. This is what you support if you support those parties. This is exactly what the leaders of those parties believe.
    If you don`t like it, go independent.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    August 25, 2010 at 1:05 pm
    I used to weigh all the options and research what a candidate stands for but never got a good politician... so now I just vote for the cutest one.
  83. Profile photo of Homegrown71
    Homegrown71 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 1:11 pm
    It doesn`t matter what I am, I live in Nebraska and I`ll always be forced to be republican...although I`m not, nor am I Democrat...I prefer to asses the situation and apply an attitude of what would work best rather than what would be progressive or conservative, I suppose using the best decision for an situation would be too extreme for government officials who need to stick by their parties and live in their respective conservative/liberal groups thinking that their party platforms are ALWAYS what works best.
  84. Profile photo of AntEconomist
    AntEconomist Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    Liberals believe that individuals are not competent to make economic choices. Conservatives believe that individuals are not competent to make social choices. Libertarians believe that the government is not competent.
  85. Profile photo of EricWRN
    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 1:44 pm
    Cajun247, can you explain what a "libertarian leaning liberal" is? Because liberals believe in government involvement in everything and libertarians believe in government involvement in almost nothing.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 1:46 pm
    meh!
  87. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:01 pm
    Eric:

    I believe a left libertarian is one who believes that, if necessary, social freedom takes the place of economic freedom. I`m not entirely sure of that.

    I don`t know a single conservative who believes in free trade. I don`t know many liberals who do, either, for that matter. Only socialists do, so it`s quite strange that "communist" was paired with "fair trade," since all communists are necessarily socialist...even though they do believe in fair trade, they`re the only ones that believe in free trade. Unless they meant "Communist" and not "communist," in which case they believe in neither fair trade nor free trade.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:03 pm
    im a moderate, but fall just to the left of the cut.
  89. Profile photo of screwzlooose
    screwzlooose Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:03 pm
    so what if ya dont fall completely into either one?

    personally, i think it takes a mix of both to find true prosperity for all of us.
  90. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    @EricWRN
    Please read BrimstoneOne`s comment on Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:39:33 AM.
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    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    Sorry but you can`t substitute for "kinds of freedom". You`re not any part libertarian if you believe the government should enforce social policy; libertarians aren`t just concerned with the economy.

    If you`re having to enforce equality you aren`t free OR equal. Ironically enough the only way to achieve true equality is for everyone to be equally free!
  92. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:10 pm
    Slyanor`s explanation is also accurate.
  93. Profile photo of EricWRN
    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:18 pm
    ohhhh Political Compass..... never made sense to me. I have an iPhone app that plots you on the political compass after a 25 question test which is always thought-provoking to people who say they are "x" affiliation but the map isn`t really logical or accurate. Like I said, you can`t be a "libertarian leaning liberal". It`s not possible. It`s like saying "well I kind of think the government should be able to tell me how much money to make and spend and how to raise my children and what to eat, but I also think the government shouldn`t be able to tell me what to do".
  94. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:21 pm
    Eric it`s a comparison of economic freedom and social freedom. E.g. I believe we should treat all couples regardless of orientation the same (liberal). If I was 100% for pure economic freedom I`d say get rid of the minimum wage (conservative) but I`d say it should be adjusted based on economic cycles.
  95. Profile photo of Yawa77
    Yawa77 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:23 pm
    Definitely more right than left, but also pretty progressive. Generally pro-freedom!
  96. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:23 pm
    As this infographic clearly shows there is no such thing as a `pure liberal` or a `pure conservative`. There is no such thing `pure libertarian` which you think is the only libertarian.
    Check out this article on libertarians.
  97. Profile photo of xKiesix
    xKiesix Female 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:24 pm
    ....all my brothers are Libertarian engineers. Libertarian is more on the right side of the graph/ None of my very republican family is a police officer, judge, or any of those vocations (except for military. My parents were both vets.) In fact, my sister is an accountant, I`m a computer scientist, and other occupations within the family are: doctor, lawyer, professor, veterinarian, and nurses. In fact, the only person I know who is going to be a police officer is my moderate boyfriend who voted for Obama. My liberal uncle is a car salesman who smokes pot. We might want to reconsider the accuracy of this graph.
  98. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:25 pm
    Plus Eric you`re arguing from a pure social standpoint that is totally inaccurate.
  99. Profile photo of EricWRN
    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    August 25, 2010 at 2:30 pm
    Cajun247: I think I see why I misunderstood you then or at least how I misspoke. Libertarianism is not a value system, it`s purely a belief that the government should have minimal involvement in public life (you know, kind of like how the constitution intended). For example, you can believe that gay marriage is a sin and that gays are going to hell, but you don`t think the government should have anything to say or do about it. You can think education is vital but still think the government shouldn`t be able to MAKE you go to school. Sorry about the misunderstanding!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 2:35 pm
    It`s all a spectrum Eric.
    Heck Compare CrakrJak`s and Gerry1of1`s profiles. Two VERY different flavors of conservative if you ask me.
    hehe
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    I fall over the line towards the left. I feel like personal freedom is very important (a conservative sentiment), but that people can use their freedom to take away the freedoms of others, and therefore we need to be protected from one another (a liberal sentiment.) What sells me the most on the left are the social views, not forcing everybody to follow one set of (generally religiously oriented) morals.

    (parentheses are fun.)
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    RFMITCH1 Male 18-29
    121 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 2:43 pm
    Pro personal responsibility.
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    Spider_sol Male 18-29
    1452 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 2:50 pm
    Looks like R or D, people love doing the nasty without getting married. Unless they`re gay, screw the gays (but not literally).
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    SomeShoes Male 13-17
    2056 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 2:53 pm
    I`m a lot more left than right
    (though liberals have to be harder on criminals)
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    Piepig Male 13-17
    1524 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:00 pm
    Too many words! My brain hurts...
  106. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1184 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:01 pm
    "I feel like personal freedom is very important (a conservative sentiment)"

    Uh... that`s both a liberal and a conservative sentiment. It`s a major similarity between conservatives and liberals.
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    poetTE Female 18-29
    25 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    I am a libertarian. Go me!
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    @poetTE
    I am a libertarian. Go me!
    You go girl!
  109. Profile photo of shappy
    shappy Male 18-29
    757 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    we had to take a test in civics with about 200 multiple choice questions that compares us to historical figures, but it had up and down too not just left and right. apparently i was the political twin with ghandi (mid-left) my results were the EXACT same to the decimal apparently.
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    moosekid Male 13-17
    348 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    I`m to the left to the left (which makes me right (correct) hehehehe)
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    adlinbaby Female 18-29
    404 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:29 pm
    communist
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    Ace_Mazta Male 13-17
    699 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:38 pm
    too big. skip.
  113. Profile photo of SuperSmash
    SuperSmash Male 18-29
    3758 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:38 pm
    Do you know what would be pretty awesome? What if people from both sides worked together to come up with the best possible solution using the best combination of attributes from either side to address individual problems?

    Hard-headed people from both sides make this impossible and MSNBC and Fox News are prime examples. Sometimes, just reading politically-charged threads on IAB is kinda sad because the divide has become so large. We ever argue about whose fault that is.
  114. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1184 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:52 pm
    What? That makes too much sense, SuperSmash. It would never work.
  115. Profile photo of Billy62
    Billy62 Male 18-29
    159 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:55 pm
    "Do you know what would be pretty awesome? What if people from both sides worked together to come up with the best possible solution using the best combination of attributes from either side to address individual problems?"

    Hey, you know what else would be pretty awesome?! A trip to the ice cream, puppy dogs, and fireworks factory!!!
  116. Profile photo of golden_rocks
    golden_rocks Male 30-39
    7 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    tl;dr
  117. Profile photo of Ogen
    Ogen Male 18-29
    441 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    This is clearly a map about what each side... should believe, not necessarily does. For one thing, the right SHOULD be about shrinking the Government to its bare bones with most of the power being in the peoples hands.

    However, Republicans have been growing the Government (in horribly bad ways) whenever in power. And also they have been interfering in the social lives of many people.

    I`m neither left nor right. Part of me wonders who made this map.
  118. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1184 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    Yeah, Ogen...

    Liberals believe in large, strong government. Conservatives believe in small, weak government. The problem is smaller governments are always stronger if they are not accountable to the people.
  119. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 4:17 pm
    @EricWRN
    "Wednesday, August 25, 2010 2:18:04 PM"
    ohhhh Political Compass..... never made sense to me.
    Good! The Political Compass is stupid. Primary because it`s stupid to look at politics in terms of left and right. Both liberals and conservatives advocate the state in some areas and personal responsibly in others. It`s better to look at all politics in terms of statist(down) and libertarian(up). You either advocate the state to do X or you advocate the free market to do X.

    @Cajun247
    "August 25, 2010 2:23:44 PM"
    I clicked on your link. Just so you know, there is no such thing as a libertarian socialist. You either advocate the freedom to own property or you don`t.

    @Baelzar
    "August 25, 2010 9:21:27 AM"
    Since I am an anarcho-capitalist the Pournelle`s Political Axes put me on the high rationalism side, but it`s still stupid because it put communist on the high rationalism side as well.
  120. Profile photo of Ogen
    Ogen Male 18-29
    441 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 4:30 pm
    @Siyanor

    Liberals don`t believe in STRONG Government, that is a much different word. Nor do Conservatives believe in a weak Government.

    Liberals believe, or should believe, in; regulation of the free market, welfare for the poor, taxes on the wealthy, and equality for all.

    Society is a system that must be controlled to a minor degree or very bad things start happening. For example, if the rich get too rich and the poor too poor, then we have a gilded age in which the poor have nothing to lose and become violent in order just to survive.

    There must be poor people in the world for there to be rich people. Is it too much to ask that we take care of them, so that they don`t live in such suffering?
  121. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 4:39 pm
    @Ogen
    Is it too much to ask that we take care of them, so that they don`t live in such suffering?
    Yes, that is too much to ask for because when you use the rich to subsidize the poor you end up with less rich people and more poor people.
  122. Profile photo of xxamsey
    xxamsey Female 18-29
    858 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    I once took a quiz to see what side of the political spectrum we are.
    I got the middle.
    The complete middle, 50%.
  123. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1184 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 5:18 pm
    "There must be poor people in the world for there to be rich people."

    But it`s not necessary for there to be anyone unable to survive off his/her wages.

    AnarchistGod, that`s what happens when you use the rich to subsidize the middle class.
  124. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 5:31 pm
    @Siyanor
    that`s what happens when you use the rich to subsidize the middle class
    And when you subsidize the poor. Same concept is applied if you subsidized rich people using even richer people.
  125. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 6:21 pm
    @Link_Hiei
    This video came out an hour ago, and it`s relevant.
  126. Profile photo of TheVile
    TheVile Male 18-29
    130 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 6:30 pm
    I am neither, I don`t care about politics.
  127. Profile photo of jle
    jle Male 13-17
    12 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    Somebody seems a bit biased.
  128. Profile photo of SmilinSam
    SmilinSam Female 18-29
    3599 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 6:53 pm
    seems to me like this map is a little biased to make it sound like all the left stuff is SO GREAT and all the right stuff is AWFUL... but i do tend to lean to the left, then to the right, then i shake my booty and get down!! woo! i`m in the PARTY PARTY!!!
  129. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 7:05 pm
    @jle
    Somebody seems a bit biased.
    Are you implying that being biased is a bad thing? I assure you it`s not.

    @SmilinSam
    seems to me like this map is a little biased to make it sound like all the left stuff is SO GREAT and all the right stuff is AWFUL
    In case you didn`t notice, equality, communism, and fair trade are on the left. Freedom and free trade are on the right. This makes it seems like the right is great, but it`s not.
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    Lblaxplaya20 Male 18-29
    422 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 7:26 pm
    I`m A Motha F`ckin Hawk Bitch!
  131. Profile photo of Magicant
    Magicant Female 18-29
    277 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 7:44 pm
    meh...kinda biased
  132. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1184 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 8:23 pm
    Depends how much money you take from the rich, I suppose...
  133. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 8:26 pm
    @Siyanor
    Depends how much money you take from the rich, I suppose...
    More you take, the worse.
  134. Profile photo of IamBored29
    IamBored29 Male 18-29
    648 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 8:39 pm
    The most important thing to take away from this graph...is that the overwhelming majority 90% and 80% of both sides support unmarried sex.

    Lets f*ck.
  135. Profile photo of bryantm3
    bryantm3 Male 18-29
    179 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 8:43 pm
    yeah, it is a bit biased towards the left, with statements like `helping those that help themselves`... by definition conservatives believe in the government staying out of personal lives, whether rich or poor, but many have no problem giving to charities or the homeless, they just don`t want the government doing it because it`s inefficient, and people should have a choice to give or not and in whatever amounts they wish.

    this graph is more like `what democrats think their party stands for, despite evidence to the contrary` vs `political views of sarah palin`.
  136. Profile photo of simim23
    simim23 Female 18-29
    1427 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 8:47 pm
    "seems to me like this map is a little biased to make it sound like all the left stuff is SO GREAT and all the right stuff is AWFUL... but i do tend to lean to the left, then to the right, then i shake my booty and get down!! woo! i`m in the PARTY PARTY!!!"

    It`s not biased at all though.

    You can`t have equality without knocking people down a few pegs. If you give people complete freedom, some people will attempt to dominate and gain power over others. It`s not "equal" at all.

    To assume that giving everyone freedom to succeed will mean they won`t take advantage of others is idealistic and naive.

    The flaws behind the Conservative/Right is that they don`t want you to interfere with society or social lives, yet they continually try to oppress the social lives of many modern citizens.

    I`m economically conservative, socially liberal. The government can back off my money and back off my life.
  137. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 9:09 pm
    @Anarchist
    Right. I say libertarian leaning liberal because I advocate social freedom more than economic freedom.
  138. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 9:25 pm
    @Cajun247
    I advocate both social and economic freedom, but if I had to choose one, it would be economic freedom.

    @simim23
    I`m economically conservative, socially liberal.
    You`re awesome! Conservatives say they don`t want to control the economy. Liberals say they don`t want to control our personal lives.
  139. Profile photo of katluver
    katluver Male 18-29
    321 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 9:31 pm
    At least both sides approve of un-married sex lof
  140. Profile photo of Volsunga
    Volsunga Male 18-29
    1548 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 9:55 pm
    This chart is weird because it uses biased language on each issue, but its seemingly random which side it supports.
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    DeutschDude9 Male 18-29
    473 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 10:15 pm
    lame, inaccurate, and lame.
  142. Profile photo of GuardinGnome
    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
    2893 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 10:49 pm
    This chart is absolute bull sh*t.
    Soooo many things wrong.......
  143. Profile photo of Mr_Chubbles
    Mr_Chubbles Female 13-17
    288 posts
    August 25, 2010 at 11:00 pm
    Since when are same sex marriage and gay rights two different things?
  144. Profile photo of paddyt07
    paddyt07 Male 18-29
    1067 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 12:12 am
    I`m half of each I think.
  145. Profile photo of Siyanor
    Siyanor Male 18-29
    1184 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 1:42 am
    I`m socially liberal and economically radical...

    ...but politically reactionary.
  146. Profile photo of jayme21
    jayme21 Male 18-29
    585 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 3:55 am
    This is the problem, you can`t group everyone left and right. Left and right is purely economic scale and then you have social scale which would be anarchist and authoritarian.
    Political compass

    So many examples of BS theistic conservative so there`s no atheist conservatives?? ever hear
  147. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33127 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 5:28 am
    No conservatives live in the cities?
    Complete and utter BS.
    The language used in the descriptions indicates the makes of this `chart` have a VERY srtong liberal bias.
    Votes for "aggression"? Most conservatives support DEFENSE... but that`s a positive word, eh?
  148. Profile photo of IamBored29
    IamBored29 Male 18-29
    648 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 6:05 am
    @5cats

    "No conservatives live in cities, Complete and utter BS...this `chart` have a VERY srtong liberal bias. "

    Hmm...noticed you didnt say anything about no liberals living in rural areas...you`re language indicates a very strong conservative bias.

    *Point is, this chart isnt suppose to represent EVERY single Conservative and EVERY single Liberal. Its an overview example of the ideologies, not individuals. Duh...or as you`d say, "LOLZ"
  149. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 6:16 am
    Link

    Video
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 6:20 am
    @jayme21
    Left and right is purely economic scale and then you have social scale which would be anarchist and authoritarian.
    You`re wrong. The left advocate state control over economic matters. The right advocate state control over social matters.
  151. Profile photo of BBJellyFish
    BBJellyFish Male 18-29
    550 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 6:45 am
    COMMON GROUND!!!! They both support unmarried sex. :D
  152. Profile photo of Tratheyas
    Tratheyas Male 13-17
    322 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 7:45 am
    tl;dr
  153. Profile photo of TKD_Master
    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 9:29 am
    I fall in the section labeled `people that dont give have a sht`.
  154. Profile photo of Superfresh64
    Superfresh64 Male 30-39
    28 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 9:46 am
    Stupid, both parties are so hopelessly corrupt and inept.
  155. Profile photo of StudentOfMan
    StudentOfMan Male 40-49
    346 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 10:37 am
    so to sum up, I have a better chance to get lucky with a liberal, but I still have a great opportunity to reach across both sides of the aisle...
  156. Profile photo of tatripp
    tatripp Male 18-29
    1196 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 10:44 am
    a liberal definitely made this
  157. Profile photo of StudentOfMan
    StudentOfMan Male 40-49
    346 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 10:46 am
    Question: Can you truly separate personal freedom from economic freedom? Seems one begets the other. If I don`t have the personal freedom to innovate and spend my money as I please, such as investment or other business opportunity, then I won`t have the potential for economic freedom. And if I don`t have a free economy (e.g. not state run or regulated) will I ever have the chance to fully achieve my personal potential to do what I feel driven to do, or aspire to greatness, or ensure others` security? Seems to me the underlying failure of both parties is that they believe they know better than the people and interfere in those respective areas.
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    Linkenberger Male 18-29
    1164 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 10:56 am
    I feel educated.
  159. Profile photo of RevWubby
    RevWubby Male 30-39
    64 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 11:24 am
    "a liberal definitely made this"

    Why, `cause it`s all spelled correctly?

    As a liberal moderate it looks like a conservative made it, since it appears (to me anyway) to contain a lot of pejoratives of liberals... "tax and spend", "communist". It also doesn`t point out the things that the "Right" likes to interfere with.
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    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
    5097 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 11:52 am
    You call liberals left-wing over there? the liberals here in Sweden are the third most right-wing party we`ve got, after the Nationalists and the Christian Democrats.
  161. Profile photo of Jammey
    Jammey Male 18-29
    239 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    We had these in our Enrichment lesson! I thought the same as tatripp, the right appears as a heartless bunch of wankers, while the left sounds like the sun shines out their arse.
  162. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 12:43 pm
    @StudentOfMan
    Can you truly separate personal freedom from economic freedom?
    No you can`t. Which exactly why I said "it`s stupid to look at politics in terms of left and right. Both liberals and conservatives advocate the state in some areas and personal responsibly in others. It`s better to look at all politics in terms of statist(down) and libertarian(up). You either advocate the state to do X or you advocate the free market to do X."

    (btw, nice comment)
  163. Profile photo of Hiromi
    Hiromi Female 18-29
    1149 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    LEFT! LEFT!!
  164. Profile photo of obhwfgirl
    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
    582 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 6:17 pm
    @StudentOfMan
    Can you truly separate personal freedom from economic freedom?

    Yes, you can. Look at the so called "non-conformists" of society. A homosexual man can be rich, but he still can`t get married. A non-white man can become the most powerful man in the free world but some people will still think he`s scum. A wealthy, honest, and peace-loving Muslim can live all the tenets revered by a Christian, but many will still walk past and think he`s a terrorist.

    An individual can escape some problems with money (i.e. poverty), but that`s just one problem for one person. True freedom isn`t solved by throwing money at a problem, but rather changing the way we think and feel about our society. Isn`t an injustice is still an injustice no matter how much "economic" freedom comes into the equation.
  165. Profile photo of Dak
    Dak Male 18-29
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    August 26, 2010 at 7:16 pm
    I personally loved this and found it incredibly interesting. Would love to see more like it!
  166. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 7:21 pm
    @obhwfgirl
    No, you can`t separate the two. If you had economic freedom you would be able to choose a company that views your marriage as legitimate.
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    Vindictive Female 18-29
    1077 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 8:18 pm
    NEITHER.
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    boredfjord Male 13-17
    928 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 9:30 pm
    The author is apparently confused about the meaning of the terms "ethics" and "morals"--an ethic is a set of morals--but otherwise it`s ok.
  169. Profile photo of Pluupy
    Pluupy Female 18-29
    30 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 10:20 pm
    Is it me or is something insinuating "Good vs. Evil" here?
    I just hope it`s the colors...
  170. Profile photo of Kernel
    Kernel Male 18-29
    123 posts
    August 26, 2010 at 10:32 pm
    drat em both.
  171. Profile photo of ZenGen
    ZenGen Male 18-29
    16 posts
    August 27, 2010 at 12:03 am
    It`s not as black and white or red and blue as this pic makes it seem. I fall onto both sides but consider myself left.
  172. Profile photo of aseirinn
    aseirinn Male 70 & Over
    877 posts
    August 27, 2010 at 2:05 am
    do people still belive this nonsense?...2 sides of the same coin. private banking rules `the people` not the smoke and mirriors of percieved government.
  173. Profile photo of aribowman
    aribowman Male 13-17
    64 posts
    August 27, 2010 at 11:30 am
    This is still pretty one sided to make the right look bad. Ahahaha parenting by fear. Half of this is BS.
  174. Profile photo of Suprenova
    Suprenova Male 18-29
    7 posts
    August 28, 2010 at 11:46 pm
    Are all the commenters really shocked to find out people can sit on both sides of the liberal/conservative thing? Or neither? Or, I dunno, can be unique?

    I swear, someone types up a fairly accurate graph of how the two sides act and people STILL get mad because its not EXACTLY how they view themselves.... come on people, you`re better than that!
  175. Profile photo of bradbury
    bradbury Male 30-39
    33 posts
    August 29, 2010 at 2:14 pm
    @xKiesix: why, yes, if the statistical tendencies shown in the graph below are wrong for YOUR family, surely the factes on which they are based must be completely fabricated.
    on the other hand, without so much as a basic understanding of statistics, maybe you don`t make a very good "computer scientist"? it`s not too late to go into sales and prove the statistic right...
  176. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    September 2, 2010 at 12:29 pm
    @AnarchistGod
    On the contrary you cannot put the two together.
    The statement you cited is social freedom. The government currently doesn`t allow private entities to certify marriages.
    Being able to choose benefits is economic freedom.
  177. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    September 5, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    @Cajun247
    On the contrary you cannot put the two together.
    You’re wrong. The two are inseparable. Who you choose to do business with is a personal choice.

    The statement you cited is social freedom
    No one is talking about social freedom. We are talking about personal and economic freedom. The statement I said was both because you (for the most part) won’t be doing business with those who don’t view your marriage as legitimate(economic freedom) and marriage is a personal choice(personal freedom). Here’s an example of why it’s also economic freedom. If company A says they will only give heterosexual couples special privileges and company B will give special privileges to both heterosexual and homosexual couples, then all the homosexual couples will flee to company B.
  178. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    September 5, 2010 at 12:55 pm
    @Cajun247
    The government currently doesn`t allow private entities to certify marriages.
    That’s because the government has a monopoly on violence. You don’t have the ECONOMIC freedom to unsubscribe from them without moving. The fact that this is not obvious to you is beyond me.

    Being able to choose benefits is economic freedom.
    It’s also personal freedom because it’s your personal choice to choose which company you wish to receive benefits from.
  179. Profile photo of ak2nc1
    ak2nc1 Female 18-29
    867 posts
    September 5, 2010 at 8:32 pm
    I guess everyone`s for unmarried sex... what has the world come to?
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    biebero Male 18-29
    4 posts
    November 19, 2010 at 6:26 am
    haha.. looks very wired ihmo :D

    statistics are really complicated sometimes.. reading and interpreting them right are indeed two very different things.. you have to learn over the years.. so dont worry if you cant do it by.. dont care what others say!!!! good luck :)

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