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Date: 08/12/10 01:04 PM

124 Responses to Is There Possibly A Sense Of Humor In Heaven? [Pic

  1. Profile photo of Jackdabomb
    Jackdabomb Male 13-17
    105 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    incoming debate...
  2. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Cue a hundred "Cue flame war" comments.
  3. Profile photo of MEZA
    MEZA Male 18-29
    333 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Hahahaha right on!!!!!
  4. Profile photo of Same4Walls
    Same4Walls Female 18-29
    351 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    Exactly.
  5. Profile photo of Manipura
    Manipura Female 18-29
    61 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 1:25 pm
    make it a little bit frontal

    please
  6. Profile photo of CHICOMIMI
    CHICOMIMI Female 18-29
    854 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 1:25 pm
    Why is there a Eyeball, Slice of Pie and a stick of Dynamite?
  7. Profile photo of Fatninja01
    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 1:33 pm
    o no you did nt!
  8. Profile photo of ShadowMoses
    ShadowMoses Male 18-29
    257 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 1:41 pm
    Looks like a piece of pie on the ground, or the cloud, lol.
  9. Profile photo of jg0nz
    jg0nz Male 18-29
    113 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 2:02 pm
    Bizarro FTW
  10. Profile photo of Slmmhmmr161
    Slmmhmmr161 Male 18-29
    606 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 2:07 pm
    The dynamite, slice of pie and loose eyeball are little things Dan Piraro (the artist) adds to his cartoons.
  11. Profile photo of skite111
    skite111 Male 30-39
    99 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 2:08 pm
    It`s funny because it`s true.
  12. Profile photo of NitroJunkie
    NitroJunkie Male 70 & Over
    758 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    Why is there a Eyeball, Slice of Pie and a stick of Dynamite?
    And boobs?
  13. Profile photo of vorpalsword
    vorpalsword Male 18-29
    1452 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 2:12 pm
    "Why is there a Eyeball, Slice of Pie and a stick of Dynamite?"

    its the artist`s trademark
  14. Profile photo of IssaTheFiend
    IssaTheFiend Female 18-29
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    August 12, 2010 at 2:17 pm
    Loving the truthiness of this comic.
  15. Profile photo of ElSombrero
    ElSombrero Male 13-17
    716 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 2:18 pm
    God is a paradox. According to all that is good and logical, it cannot be proven or disproven.

    The Christian one at least.
  16. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 2:26 pm
    Video
  17. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    August 12, 2010 at 2:39 pm
    I think God drew this...

    Discuss.
  18. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 2:43 pm
    @splurbyburbl
    I think God drew this...

    Discuss.
    God doesn`t exist.
    /thread
  19. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 2:44 pm
    @splurbyburbl
    You`re an atheist conservative who works with the government?

    That`s a rare description.
  20. Profile photo of MEZA
    MEZA Male 18-29
    333 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 2:51 pm
    @anarchistgod, Jesus that kid is atrocious!

    If there was a god, whose to say it is the Christian god or the Muslim god or whatever god, and why would there be different lord figures being worshipped when there would truly only be one. If there was one, you`d think there would be a set religion and a set form of worship.
  21. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 3:02 pm
    Are atheists dumb?
  22. Profile photo of RyanHake
    RyanHake Male 18-29
    2690 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 3:02 pm
    Mmm pie
  23. Profile photo of jak22
    jak22 Male 18-29
    154 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    haha they run that comic in my paper.
  24. Profile photo of britt566
    britt566 Female 18-29
    2290 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 3:04 pm
    my very very christian mother laughed at this...
  25. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 3:14 pm
    @madest
    Someone is unable to tell the difference between serious and cereal.
  26. Profile photo of ManicRapture
    ManicRapture Female 13-17
    682 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    pie in the sky? angry eyeball staring at God`s bum? ahhh..we`ll never understand religion...
  27. Profile photo of IamBored29
    IamBored29 Male 18-29
    648 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 3:31 pm



    Ha, is funny because Heaven is Imaginary!
  28. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    @madest
    Yeah Christians all are blonde haired blue eyed happy family people that would never kill anybody because their invisible man in the sky forbids it.
    Due to inefficiencies with your mental activity, you were unable to realize that I wasn`t being serious with my image at "August 12, 2010 2:26:32 PM" or you`re trolling me. Of course I don`t think that all Christians are blonde haired blue eyed happy family people that would never kill anybody because their invisible man in the sky forbids it. People(most of them anyway) don`t do bad to others because of their personal preferences and not because of some sky daddy.

    The Joker just called and said you`re no longer allowed to consider yourself an anarchist.
    Now, I`m not being serious with this picture. I`m just showing how stupid your post was.
  29. Profile photo of insanepirate
    insanepirate Female 18-29
    364 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 4:02 pm
    @ManicRapture, don`t forget the dynamite behind the sign. And who said the eyeball was angry? Maybe he just really likes God`s bum.
  30. Profile photo of Lblaxplaya20
    Lblaxplaya20 Male 18-29
    422 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 4:16 pm
    @Meza
    The Christian God and Muslim god are the same person. The religions just have different ideas about Him.

    @AnarchistGod

    Can I marry you? Wait nevermind I`m Catholic we don`t believe in that. Wanna be friends?
  31. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 4:23 pm
    @Lblaxplaya20
    Wanna be friends?
    Sure:-)
  32. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 4:37 pm
    Atheist vs. Atheist vs. Atheist

    Who would`ve though?
  33. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36842 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 4:39 pm
    I`m athiest and look nothing like the "athiest" in Antichristgods photo.

    I look more like the Christian guy. Handsome, clean-cut as though I were carved from Cream Cheese, and lovely teeth {guess how I got them so pearly white}.
  34. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 4:44 pm
    @Gerry1of1
    I`m athiest and look nothing like the "athiest" in Antichristgods photo.
    Well, it`s just the stereotype;-) and who`s Antichristgods?

    By the way, it`s atheist, not athiest.
  35. Profile photo of DiegoDeFuego
    DiegoDeFuego Male 18-29
    239 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 5:11 pm
    @Anarchistgod

    It`s because Madest is more worried about trying to look superior than laughing at a joke. Notice his first post.

    I`m a christian and this is hilarious. A sacrilegious picture on IAB that`s actually clever and not just "funny" because it makes fun of a group of people athiests think are stupid and beneath them, I`m surprised.
  36. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 5:30 pm
    @ AnarchistGod, Sheez a bit sensitive for an anarchist aren`t we? Look man I took offense at the picture only after following the link to that boring nonsense about being an atheist but not wanting to be called an "atheist". And (waaahh) he doesn`t fit in to some "atheist community". Evidently I`ve upset that douche somewhere in my past because I`m banned from making comments on his videos so I`ll just break it to you instead. "Atheist" is a word not a community. So long as you don`t believe in a deity you`re an atheist. Twisting a non belief into another religion is something different entirely different. This isn`t rocket science it`s English.
  37. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 5:33 pm
    "@splurbyburbl
    You`re an atheist conservative who works with the government?

    That`s a rare description."

    LOL wow, good call. I didn`t realize it said conservative still. I need to update that. Truth is, I am independant, but lean toward conservative views. What makes me independant is that I am pro-choice, anti-religion... and I am totally awesome. (all facts)
  38. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    Atheist vs. Atheist vs. Atheist

    Who would`ve though?

    Pretty much anyone who thought about it.

    Atheism is not a religion. It has no faith, no stories, no book of rules, no dogma. It doesn`t even have agreed core beliefs, because it doesn`t necessarily have any beliefs at all. So, atheists frequently disagree with each other about anything.

    For example, I am an atheist who thinks that the existence of a deity or deities is a possibility. Pick just half a dozen atheists and you`ll very likely have one or more who disagree with me very strongly about that.
  39. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 5:43 pm
    " "Atheist" is a word not a community. So long as you don`t believe in a deity you`re an atheist. Twisting a non belief into another religion is something different entirely different."

    Not arguing here (actually aggreeing): I went to an Atheist gathering with my Sister a few months back. These fools (all older professionals and seeming educated) sat around talking about how religious people need to be converted, etc. I chimed in and told them that a group of people that gathers to talk about converting people who don`t believe as they do... is a religion. Then my Sister and I left confounded that this group of people were so contradictory. It was interesting.
  40. Profile photo of MrHughJass
    MrHughJass Male 13-17
    45 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 5:58 pm
    I lol`d
  41. Profile photo of luke182
    luke182 Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2010 at 5:59 pm
    i have to believe in the supreme being. i do not believe in spontaneous generation. things can`t just come into being out of no where for no reason. something outside of our restrictive 4 dimensions created matter in my opinion. sure. it probably created our universe in a big bang. why couldn`t an all knowing being foresee the process of evolution?
  42. Profile photo of DiegoDeFuego
    DiegoDeFuego Male 18-29
    239 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 6:38 pm
    Madest, if you are responding to Luke182 i think you are completely missing what he was saying. Why does the supreme being have to follow your rules, why does it have to follow any rules? It seems like you are either unable or unwilling to accept the idea of something that is completely beyond your understanding.
  43. Profile photo of PUDDING1961
    PUDDING1961 Female 40-49
    446 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 7:07 pm
    I believe God has a sense of humor. I mean...he did create man, sooo...there ya go! lolllll
  44. Profile photo of DiegoDeFuego
    DiegoDeFuego Male 18-29
    239 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 7:07 pm
    The big bang doesn`t explain where matter came from, it explains what that matter has done in the past 13 or so billion years(correct me if I`m wrong, and if you can stand it, with more than just "you`re wrong").

    And you don`t know what`s right and what`s wrong, you only have ideas/beliefs.
  45. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 7:20 pm
    Well this thread is now dead. Why? Because the "debate" turned into an argument between what you can prove and what you believe. And that, my friends, means you just have to agree to disagree because you can go in circles all day.

    I will say this though. Tangible things are proven things. God has never been tangible.
  46. Profile photo of Phengophobia
    Phengophobia Female 13-17
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    August 12, 2010 at 7:28 pm
    Hahah, that`s awesome
  47. Profile photo of DiegoDeFuego
    DiegoDeFuego Male 18-29
    239 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 7:42 pm
    Sorry splurbyburbl if i was a major part in killing the thread.

    PS your last three sentences sum up exactly what my point is.
  48. Profile photo of rakoonhat
    rakoonhat Female 30-39
    654 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 8:08 pm
    is that a slice of pie...random...
  49. Profile photo of Heureux
    Heureux Male 40-49
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    August 12, 2010 at 8:28 pm
    "The big bang doesn`t explain"

    New research suggests that the big bang theory is completely wrong, anyways.
  50. Profile photo of ingrateful
    ingrateful Male 13-17
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    August 12, 2010 at 8:50 pm
    pie and what appears to be an eyeball.... heaven is random as hhell
  51. Profile photo of darthrex111
    darthrex111 Male 13-17
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    August 12, 2010 at 8:59 pm
    i dig this comic xD

    and i bet some alien made people for a science project xD
  52. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 9:00 pm
    @madest
    "Atheist" is a word not a community. So long as you don`t believe in a deity you`re an atheist. Twisting a non belief into another religion is something different entirely different. This isn`t rocket science it`s English.
    Why would you tell all of this? Who`s twisting a non-belief into a religion and how? I am well aware of the fact that "atheist" and "Christian" are words and not communities, but that doesn`t mean that there can`t an atheist community or a Christian community(not that you said there can`t be). I am also aware of the fact that an atheist is someone who is described by something that they don`t have(a belief in a deity), just like bald(described by what they don`t have, hair), but that doesn`t mean there can`t be a bald community(not that you said there can`t be). So I don`t know why you told me all of that.
  53. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 9:02 pm
    pie and what appears to be an eyeball.... heaven is random as hhell
    So hell has random stuff on the floor too?
  54. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    is that a slice of pie...random...
    is that a cloud? In Heaven?....random...
  55. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 9:19 pm
    @Cajun247
    Atheist vs. Atheist vs. Atheist

    Who would`ve though?
    Sorry for the lag responses. I went to the circus.
  56. Profile photo of Dfaulted
    Dfaulted Male 13-17
    1920 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 9:25 pm
    Hahahahaha, a lot of the commenters don`t get it
  57. Profile photo of Nocciolina
    Nocciolina Female 18-29
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    August 12, 2010 at 9:38 pm
    Hahahaha, this is great.
  58. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 9:44 pm
    @madest
    Sheez a bit sensitive for an anarchist aren`t we?
    Me? Sensitive? You`re the one who first responded to me and not the other way around. You`re the one who threw a fit at my post. You`re the sensitive one, not me. Just because I put you in your place doesn`t mean I`m sensitive.
  59. Profile photo of Major-K
    Major-K Female 13-17
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    August 12, 2010 at 9:53 pm
    Hahaha, nice
  60. Profile photo of FriskyRonnie
    FriskyRonnie Female 18-29
    199 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 9:58 pm
    this is pretty depressing

    I just won`t think about it and google some funny cat pictures
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    AmberCherry Female 18-29
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    August 12, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    I love Bizarro, always so damn clever.
  62. Profile photo of last-iconOC
    last-iconOC Male 13-17
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    August 12, 2010 at 10:48 pm
    well I-A-B, for the first time in the history of my forever, you have disappointed me in your comment section, not the post the post was hilarious, maybe i`ve spent too much time reading the comments here, or maybe people can`t come up with new points and convincing ideas :[ how saddening
  63. Profile photo of GuardinGnome
    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
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    August 12, 2010 at 10:52 pm
    Lol, it`s so true..........
  64. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 12, 2010 at 10:55 pm
    @last-iconOC
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 10:56 pm
    @last-iconOC
    Why did I not have to click your username or look at how many comments you have to know that you`re new?
  66. Profile photo of luke182
    luke182 Male 18-29
    415 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 11:13 pm
    no madest, i think you are missing my point. i say god exists outside our tangible realm. it created our universe in (what we call) the big bang. then we evolved just how god planned.
  67. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 12, 2010 at 11:37 pm
    @luke182
    i say god exists outside our tangible realm.
    I`d love to know how you could possible know that.

    it created our universe in (what we call) the big bang.
    How do you know that and how do you know the universe is a creation and not a result of formation? Not to mention that when you say the universe is created, that implies that there once was a time when the universe didn`t exist. Which is impossible. By definition, nothing can exist outside the UNIverse. Why say a complicated being always existed? Why not say simple quarks always existed?

    then we evolved just how god planned.
    Again, how could you possible know that? Not to mention, with evolution there`s no need for planning from the top the down. It works its way from the bottom up by natural selection.
  68. Profile photo of 66stang
    66stang Male 18-29
    225 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 12:52 am
    ok so luke is a creatonist, but when a creationist is faced with a raelian they think they are crazy. Raelians believe the exact same thing luke does with one minor difference, instead of it being God that created everything and evolved as he knew it would, it was aliens.
  69. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 1:08 am
    66 Stang:
    Replace Raelians with Creationists, Creationists with You, and Aliens with any level of big bang theory.

    Now, before going on a rant about how they`re different (because I know how they`re different, you don`t need to explain it to me), consider that those differences apply to God sometimes.

    God and Big Bang: Timeless.
    Aliens and God: Intelligent.

    If your criteria for most likely scenario leads you to believe those two are important. God is your option.

    Minus intelligence = Big bang.
    Minus timeless = Aliens.

    Now, if you make up fantastical images of God where he`s just a guy with a beard, I can see why you`d think the whole aliens and God parallel each other.

    If you actually shared the view with religion and don`t imagine him as a wizard chiseling the universe with bare hands, the two depart quite rapidly.
  70. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 1:19 am
    (And that whole rant applies to AnarchistGod too.

    As I`ve said a couple of million times before, belief in God depends on your priori, not your reasoning.

    That`s why all arguments devolve into "Yes, but can you prove it HAS to be that way?!"

    Which depending on the time of day is either a completely acceptable attitude and the natural order of things (Prove God absolutely!!!!), or completely unacceptable and the last resort of mouth breathers and the clinically insane (Prove Evolution absolutely!!!!).

    Just fyi, those creationists? They`re skeptics too.

    Have a nice week.
  71. Profile photo of TKD_Master
    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 1:20 am
    HAHAHA god just got pwned.

    Artist and human-kind : 1

    God : -9000
  72. Profile photo of TalcumX
    TalcumX Male 50-59
    561 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 2:32 am
    question...who defines a `tangable realm`...hmmm?
  73. Profile photo of aseirinn
    aseirinn Male 70 & Over
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    August 13, 2010 at 3:18 am
    can someone explain the dynamite behind the sign?
  74. Profile photo of JDplaysFF
    JDplaysFF Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2010 at 4:12 am
    ........

    ...So...If we`re evolving just as God planned....

    ...Does that mean God WANTS us to have IAB religious wars?
  75. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 13, 2010 at 4:17 am
    aseirinn: Not just the dynamite, Why is there an eyeball behind God`s robe and a piece of pie in the cloud ?
  76. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 13, 2010 at 4:37 am
    AnarchistGod: Recent cosmological theory, Backed by the complex mathematics of string theory (and beyond), Suggests 11 dimensions in one theory and possibly infinite dimensions in other theories.

    Seeing as how there are so many possible dimensions that we cannot perceive, Watch Sagan`s Explanation, It`s is possible, And I believe likely, That God exists as a extra-dimensional being. This would explain a lot of things the faithful consider `miracles` and the unbeliever sees as just coincidence.

  77. Profile photo of Toonoisy
    Toonoisy Female 18-29
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    August 13, 2010 at 5:47 am
    All the little stuff, like the dog in the lower right corner, the dynamite and the eye etc, are Piraro`s way of drawing. The guy is a pro cartoonist, and that`s his signature: to sign the pic and put small thingies in it. All his drawings have those (at least those I`ve seen)
    :-)
  78. Profile photo of MEZA
    MEZA Male 18-29
    333 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 6:20 am
    @anarchistgod, I`m so flattered by your c*nt tomfoolery! Thanks troll have a beautiful day :D
  79. Profile photo of Sieging
    Sieging Male 13-17
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    August 13, 2010 at 7:45 am
    It`s funny because it poos on religion.
  80. Profile photo of LtFurpie
    LtFurpie Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2010 at 8:01 am
    wow, so many ppl picking on AnarchistGod. The argument is simple ppl, what`s more logical: the existence of a perfect being that can create a universe before the universe exists, or the opposite?
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2010 at 8:18 am
    I love "you are here" sign jokes.
  82. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 13, 2010 at 9:34 am
    madest: To a 2 dimensional being a 3 dimensional block being placed on his plane would seem as if it was just `popping into existence`. We are limited to our perceptions of the universe just as much.
  83. Profile photo of fattpill
    fattpill Male 30-39
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    August 13, 2010 at 10:06 am
    I read about three Pages of this and it was mainly Atheist arguing amongst themselves. I am Christian who does not have the ability to convert anyone so I aint gonna try. God knows I have. I am curious though and Maybe angilion could answer this he seems to he the smartest of all the people who post on here.

    Where did the space come from, that the big bang happened in?

    I`ll check back in a couple days.
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    Burton_Ian Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2010 at 11:37 am
    ha I had read the "Flatland" book years ago, but I hadn`t seen that movie before; it basically said the same exact thing. Thanks for posting that Madest (-:
  85. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 13, 2010 at 12:49 pm
    @Baalthazaq
    @CrakrJak

    Thanks for the replies. I will respond to them when I get the chance.

    I`ll even answer you fattpill, even though your question was not directed at me.
  86. Profile photo of MEZA
    MEZA Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    @madest, have you been watching scifi science on the science channel?
  87. Profile photo of horny123
    horny123 Male 13-17
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    August 13, 2010 at 1:47 pm
    Is that a piece of pie in the clouds and dynamite by the post of the sign?
  88. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 4:07 pm
    Angillon, That`s an agnostic.

    No, it isn`t. I use the definitions correctly, not the unfortunately common redefinitions into simple pigeonholes.

    Agnosticism is a philosophy that applies to all areas, essentially that you shouldn`t claim objective knowledge without being able to prove it.

    Atheism is a lack of religious belief.

    I don`t know (agnostic) and therefore I don`t believe (athiest).
  89. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    i have to believe in the supreme being. i do not believe in spontaneous generation. things can`t just come into being out of no where for no reason.

    A classic logical fallacy - argument from ignorance. "I don`t know how it happened, therefore <insert favoured deity or deities here> did it."

    You`re making ignorance divine. You are, in effect, worshipping ignorance.

    You don`t know how it happened. That`s as far as it goes - you can`t logically conclude that your ignorance proves the existence of <insert a god or gods here>.
  90. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 4:29 pm
    Where did the space come from, that the big bang happened in?

    According to the theory, that question is meaningless. There was no space before the big bang. No time either. So there is no such thing as "before the big bang" and there was no space for it to happen in.

    Science can be seriously weird when you get down to it. Some of it is extremely hard to understand, even some of the stuff that has been proven by experiment as well as making sense logically and mathematically.

    For example, can you *really* understand that the rate at which time passes depends on velocity? Not merely that it seems to do so, e.g. an hour just hanging around can seem like much longer, but that it actually does. You can measure it with a clock, if you have an accurate enough clock and enough relative velocity.

    I know it`s true. It happens. I understand the logic and maths involved in proving it. But I don`t *really* understand it.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 13, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    Gah, I spelt `atheist` wrong.

    Athy, athier, athiest :)
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    paddyt07 Male 18-29
    1067 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 6:58 pm
    Like anyone who would make a joke or a statement of any kind would make it to "heaven".
    You`re instantly condemned to hell pretty much the moment you make a joke about anything or do anything remotely enjoyable.
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    PopCap Male 30-39
    730 posts
    August 13, 2010 at 7:36 pm
    You can keep both factions (scientists & religious) fuming for hours just by repeating the phrase "Yeah, but HOW do you KNOW?"

    So, there was a big bang. I will die in a few years, along with lots of other people who had other things to tend to.
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    Jasonbobdude Male 18-29
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    August 13, 2010 at 7:40 pm
    The head is the cartoonist imagining this picture as he draws it, therefore it`s all in his head.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 12:28 am
    @Baalthazaq
    “August 13, 2010 1:08:02 AM”
    If your criteria for most likely scenario leads you to believe those two are important. God is your option.
    For my scenario, neither the big bang, or an intelligent being(be it God or aliens) are important to me. Especially not the big bang.

    The universe is timeless because all existence is within the universe and existence can’t come from non-existence so that means the universe always existed, which means it’s timeless.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 12:29 am
    @Baalthazaq
    “August 13, 2010 1:08:02 AM”
    If you actually shared the view with religion and don`t imagine him as a wizard chiseling the universe with bare hands, the two depart quite rapidly.
    How I define God fits the description of how most define him.

    God: A supreme supernatural being that created and/or influences existence in the natural realm.

    This is absurd because it hasn’t even been proven that a supernatural realm exists, let alone a powerful being that created and/or influences us. It is also absurd to think that an intelligent being is timeless. Intelligence(almost always) takes countless years of evolution. Organisms that were more consistent with their thinking were more likely to survive and reproduce. I don’t see why anyone would think that an intelligent being is timeless.

    Now Baalthazaq, if how I define god does not fit your definition of god then please let me know.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 12:30 am
    @Baalthazaq
    “August 13, 2010 1:19:43 AM”
    That`s why all arguments devolve into "Yes, but can you prove it HAS to be that way?!"
    The reason I ask the question is because when someone spits out claims that have little to no proof, the most logical question to ask is “how do you know that?” or “what lead you to thinking that?”

    Which depending on the time of day is either a completely acceptable attitude and the natural order of things (Prove God absolutely!!!!), or completely unacceptable and the last resort of mouth breathers and the clinically insane (Prove Evolution absolutely!!!!).
    There’s a difference. The theory of evolution can be supported with facts in real time. God and the supernatural cannot. Sure there are theories about other dimensions, but I’d love see hear your reasoning or see your evidence as to how an intelligent being created and/or influences us.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 12:31 am
    @Baalthazaq
    “August 13, 2010 1:19:43 AM”
    Just fyi, those creationists? They`re skeptics too.
    Well, they’re not very skeptical skeptics.

    As I`ve said a couple of million times before, belief in God depends on your priori, not your reasoning.
    I’m not trying to twist your words or misrepresent you, but if you openly admit that your belief in God does not depend on your reasoning then when talking about God there’s no REASONing with you.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 12:31 am
    @TalcumX
    “August 13, 2010 2:32:28 AM”
    question...who defines a `tangable realm`...hmmm?
    We do. What’s your point?
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 12:32 am
    @CrakrJak
    “August 13, 2010 4:37:25 AM”
    Recent cosmological theory, Backed by the complex mathematics of string theory (and beyond), Suggests 11 dimensions in one theory and possibly infinite dimensions in other theories.
    Even if that were true and there were a large number of dimensions, it would not disprove what I said. Since they exist, they’re all within the universe.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 12:32 am
    @LtFurpie
    “August 13, 2010 8:01:31 AM”
    what`s more logical: the existence of a perfect being that can create a universe before the universe exists, or the opposite?
    The first one is impossible because if you create the universe that would mean that you are outside the universe(since it doesn’t exist yet) and anything outside the universe does not exist. You can’t be within something that doesn’t exist yet.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 12:33 am
    @madest
    “August 13, 2010 8:11:15 AM”
    That our entire universe is within a black hole and every black hole in every universe contains another universe ad infinitum.
    That’s impossible. What you said is WAY more absurd than a god creating animals because at least god has a possibility of being real(not a very likely possibility). There can never be another universe. To say that there are many universes would violent its definition. There is one and only one UNIverse. I really want to emphasize the “uni” part.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 12:34 am
    @fattpill
    “August 13, 2010 10:06:16 AM”
    Where did the space come from, that the big bang happened in?
    If someone asked you, “what time did you commit the murder?” without proving that you committed a murder then that question starts with a false premise. The person asking first has to prove that you committed a murder in order for his/her question to not start with a false premise.

    You’re question begins with a false premise because you first have to prove that space came from somewhere and is not timeless. You want to know where space came from? Prove it wasn’t always here.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 12:36 am
    @madest
    “August 13, 2010 10:14:15 AM”
    Theories of multiple dimensions may have just been a precursor to the multiverse theory. If by chance this is just one universe in a sea of multiverses then this particular universe was cooked at just the right temperature to create haven(s) for life.
    That’s impossible. A multiverse can never exist because there can never be more than one universe.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 12:46 am
    @Angillon
    “August 13, 2010 4:07:49 PM”
    Atheism is a lack of religious belief.
    No it’s not. Atheism is the lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. You’re thinking of secularism.
    There was no space before the big bang. No time either. So there is no such thing as "before the big bang" and there was no space for it to happen in.
    That’s impossible. There had to be time because you needed to get from event A to event B. There had to have been space because you need a place to put it all. Finally, there has to be a “before the big bang” because something had to of triggered it.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 12:55 am
    Anarchist, you were doing well until you started ringing sh*t in powerpoint (in RED, no less!) from random google pics. After that, I must admit, I lost your train of thought.

    Take some pills. Pills are good.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 1:16 am
    @davymid
    Speaking of pills
    If you`re confused on something I said, quote me and I`ll try to give farther clarification. I have to go to bed now, then I have to go straight to work. So I won`t be able to respond right away.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 11:10 am
    @madest
    “August 14, 2010 4:37:15 AM”
    Stated like a scientist yet as wrong as rain.
    Personally, I would rather not be seen as a scientist because it might appear as if I was using ethos. I do NOT want to use ethos and especially not pathos. I want to use logos.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 11:11 am
    @madest
    “August 14, 2010 4:37:15 AM”
    We know that everything within the universe is 13.5 billion years old because we can only see inside a 13.5 billion light year bubble.
    You’re wrong. The light bubble helps us see back to the farthest event back in time that we are currently able to theorize, but it is by no means a beginning to the universe.
  110. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 11:12 am
    @madest
    “August 14, 2010 4:37:15 AM”
    Let me try to explain this differently. Let’s say that X does not equal infinity or a negative number or zero.

    The universe is X years old.
    So does that mean that (X +1) years ago there was no universe???

    Of course not.

    To say that the universe is X years old would mean that it has a beginning. If it has a beginning that means that there was a period where the universe did not exist. Anything outside the universe does not exist and existences cannot come from non-existence. Therefore, the universe is timeless. (This does NOT disprove God)
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 11:13 am
    @madest
    “August 14, 2010 4:37:15 AM”
    Many scientists are wrong when they say the universe is 13.5 billion years old. But hey, what do I know? I’m just a 20 year old undergrad studying geography.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 11:15 am
    @madest
    “August 14, 2010 4:37:15 AM”
    Clearly he`s just an anarchist to facts and intelligence.
    That makes no sense, but I’ll take it as a complement, thank you. Unfortunately I can’t say the same for you. You’re a statist to facts and intelligence.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 11:18 am
    @madest
    “August 14, 2010 4:37:15 AM”
    @ Davymid, I disagree. He lost any opportunity at making sense with this sentence:
    I respect Baalthazaq, davymid, Angillon, and CrakrJak. You on the other hand I have no respect for. Grow some balls, quote me, tell me where my reasoning goes wrong, and respond to me directly. Appeal to logic and not authority.

    Are you mad, madest? You seem to be mad. Are you mad because you’re an atheist who is use to picking on Christians and you don’t know how to act when another atheist calls you out? FYI, just because you’re an atheist(or even an anarchist if you were one) does not mean that you’re smart.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 12:57 pm
    @madest and AnarchistGod
    The age of the Universe we know is not based on visible light per se. It`s actually based background radiation.
  115. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    @Cajun247
    The age of the Universe we know is not based on visible light per se. It`s actually based background radiation.
    No, the universe has no age other than infinity because it’s timeless. I’ve explained that in many comments, specifically at “August 14, 2010 11:12:54 AM”

    As for the background radiation, it helps us determine the time of the big bang. The Microwave Anisotropy Probe measured differences in the temperature of the Big Bang`s remnant radiant heat. Infrared is a form of light. I never said visible light. I just said light. Sorry for the confusion. I try to be as clear as possible.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    August 14, 2010 at 2:26 pm
    @madest
    wow you`re dumb.
    Why do you think I`m dumb? Is it because I accidentally used "You`re" when I should have used "Your" at "August 14, 2010 12:34:55 AM"? If that`s why you think I`m dumb then I`m sorry. Geez, you don`t have to be such a grammar nazi.
  117. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 4:00 pm
    That’s impossible. There had to be time because you needed to get from event A to event B. There had to have been space because you need a place to put it all. Finally, there has to be a “before the big bang” because something had to of triggered it.

    That sounds logical, but there`s a big problem with it.

    You`re actually arguing that space must have existed before space existed and that time must have existed before time existed. It doesn`t sound so logical when it`s put that way.

    The problem is that people generally can`t really understand the idea of nothing. They almost always think of it as empty space and time passing at a constant rate as nothing happens. But that`s not nothing - that`s space and time (which doesn`t pass at a constant rate anyway).
  118. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 7:36 pm
    @Angilion
    You`re actually arguing that space must have existed before space existed and that time must have existed before time existed. It doesn`t sound so logical when it`s put that way.
    I argued no such thing. I was saying the exact opposite. There was no before space and/or time. They always existed.

    The problem is that people generally can`t really understand the idea of nothing. They almost always think of it as empty space and time passing at a constant rate as nothing happens. But that`s not nothing - that`s space and time (which doesn`t pass at a constant rate anyway).
    That`s an interesting way to look at it. In that case, "nothing" can never exist. There`s always something there, be it time or space.
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    eskimo9 Male 18-29
    703 posts
    August 14, 2010 at 9:32 pm
    Well we can`t tell if nothing could exist, because nothing has never occured in human experience, so there is no reference point for our puny minds to grasp onto. It`s a bit like: try to think about infinity. You can`t do it. You`re thinking very very big, not infinity. Think nothing. Can`t do that either.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    August 15, 2010 at 6:07 pm
    @madest
    "August 15, 2010 5:18:03 PM"
    Your ignorance is astounding.
    No it`s not. There always has to be time in the universe because you have to get from event A to event B. There always has to be space because you need a place to put existence. I can`t be wrong.

    Madest, you`re worse than a fundamentalist Christian. You hear something you don`t like, and instead of arguing against it, you use ad hominem. Calling me ignorant or dumb. You might as well be calling me a sinner or a baby killer.
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    JohnnyBoy50 Male 13-17
    88 posts
    August 18, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    Yes, it`s someone`s idea of a joke. I don`t understand why people fight over the existence of something when you can`t see it, hear it, anything!
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    Homegrown71 Male 18-29
    224 posts
    August 19, 2010 at 6:53 am
    He wasn`t talking about the sign...he was wondering why someone left a perfectly good piece of pie on the floor.
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    Kozy Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2010 at 10:43 pm
    My former account is AnarchistGod.

    I am an atheist.

    I am going to troll the sh*t out of these people in this thread.

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