Disney Animators Just Getting Lazier [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 7 years ago in Entertainment

The proof is in the side-by-side comparison.
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Male 65
Anime in the 80`s had lower budgets. Now it`s pretty high-quality, surpassing most western animation. In contrast, compared to 80`s cartoons like the newer Looney Toons and even Scooby-Doo, todday`s western animation relies on designs not far removed from their basic blocky shapes, usually with thick outlines. An example of this is the cartoon "Kappa Mikey", where the main character is western-animated while everything else is anime-styled. South Park, Samurai Jack, and Ben10 all have the "shaped" look, but are also well-developed in plot and individual styles, for cartoons that is.
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Female 535
Anybody who says japanese animation is lower quality has never seen "Iria. Zeiram: the animation" "Serial expirements: Lain" or "Elfenlied."
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Female 52
"all asian cartoons are lower quality, that`s why they`re cheep than doing it here. I loved Speed Racer as a kid but it wasn`t great animation. All of ANIME is just crap animation with good story lines. {I know I`ll get crucified for saying that}"

Um, no, actually. Anime uses a fairly higher frame rate standard than, say, U.S. cartoons do, thus making it more fluid, etc., and so it is, by the facts, a more quality animation. I won`t go into specifics - you can easily find it, I`m sure, if you`re curious - but that`s the gist of it. It`s obvious you just don`t like the art style of anime and prefer, I`d assume, American cartoons, and that`s fine. But do some research before spouting off things like that. :\
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Male 284
GUMMIBEAAAAARS! Bouncing here and there and everywheeeeeeere...
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Male 217
The people who make phineas and ferb are not lazy. This should prove it. In my opinion, this show is some of disney`s best work.
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Female 126
i enjoy Arthur...
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Male 10,855
@Gerry1of1
Can`t really say that for ALL cartoons, even those in entire group. There are some Japanese animations that WAY better than American (even from graphics standpoint).
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Female 674
"The only show I ever loved was ed edd and eddy and that show is what true childrens comedy should be, Its no pussy weak but Its not too old enough for the 6-4 yr olds you know"

You`re joking right?
*looks at age*
Oh.
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Male 958
The only show I ever loved was ed edd and eddy and that show is what true childrens comedy should be, Its no pussy weak but Its not too old enough for the 6-4 yr olds you know... When I was nine and cn would show the holloween marothons and it would be with a charecters doing the hosting and all that drating nastalgia! I dont even reameber before that :`(
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Female 69
Screw Disney, I`m going to go watch some Invader Zim on Nicktoons.
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Male 189
You didn`t know that the cartoon industry is degenerating. There is no plot or content anymore. Everything seems to be a bunch of competitions to see who can be more down syndrome.It could be made with stick figures for all I care so long as kids today could grow up with something less idiodic to watch. I loose brain cells just hearing my little cousins talking about these shows.
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Male 476
There is a reason for everything...if you think about it.
Maybe the writters/creaters are doing that so that the children watching dont just Focus on the fancy artwork and learn to follow the story better! Its developing their listening skills rather then having them zoning out on the pretty animation! Maybe? I mean. what would you prefer to watch.... Gummi bears.. or south Park?!?! LOL Its all about the context these days!!!!
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Male 191
SarahofBorg: thats not the point of the picture the point is the difference in the details
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Female 3,562
Durrr lets compare promotional artwork created for scrutiny to a screengrab from some random moment in a show and then we`ll also blur the screengrab so it doesn`t look as sharp.
I`m sure if you took some random moment from this gummi bears thing it would look ridiculously crappy.
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Male 522
The fact That Phineus and Ferb is the best thing on TV since Walter Cronkite does make me sad. But the Gummi bears as an example of good animation? Fooey.Not since the Waner Bros. Shorts has thier been animation worth watching untill the computer age.
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Female 337
I like Phineas ans Ferb, the material is very good and `i can`t get enought of that platypus!
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Male 99
"All of Anime is crap"? Everyone who makes generalities is an idiot.

Do you mean Ponyo and Princess Mononoke are also crap? I believe Japanese anime has set the mark to beat for years now. Cowboy Bebop with a wonderful soundtrack also sported some amazing detail (I love the time they spent on reflections).

Phineas and Ferb is genius. Well written. I think it`s a playful show and the artistry reflects that. Realism is just one way to animate.
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Male 1,287
I liked Adventures of the Gummi Bears as a kid. I like Phineas and Ferb, too. I don`t have a problem with the new style.

[quote] ElSombrero: But I like the old ones better. The new CONTENT just sucks in general. [/quote]

To a degree, we all do. That`s why we come to I-A-B, amiright?
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Male 21
This is ludicrous - Phineas and Ferb is hysterical! And really the animation is really good in that show, and it`s smart as hell. Loved the Gummy Bears but Phineas and Ferb is one of the better cartoons in YEARS.
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Male 1,011
simple style = suck

em....no you`re just ignorant of other types of animation and styles.

and Gerry not ALL Asian animation is inferior...most animated things are from Asia now..from the Simpsons, to Animaniacs to Family Guy. It all depends on Studio, Budget and Time.

(the only American animated show that is actually made here 100% is South Park I believe)

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Male 113
Maybe the artist created simple characters that are strange shapes to make them more memorable..but most likely its the laziness thing
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Male 587
Ah man And Gooftroop. Ah good times. Now I will try to find these cartoons on the internet and this is what my son will watch from now on.. TV sucks.
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Male 587
WOOT Darkwing duck! I liked Tailspin too. Ah those were the days they just don`t make cartoons like they used to :(
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Male 104
toy story is pixar if im not wrong. gonna see it one of these days
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Male 39,613
all asian cartoons are lower quality, that`s why they`re cheep than doing it here. I loved Speed Racer as a kid but it wasn`t great animation. All of ANIME is just crap animation with good story lines. {I know I`ll get crucified for saying that}
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Female 2,509
I`ll take the story line and "lazier" style over Gummi Bears any day!
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Female 185
I just got all the gummi bear seasons for my kids. They love it! Got them watching Darkwing duck and the Wonder Years too.
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Male 148
youre forgetting toy story 3
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Male 931
Not huge on disney but the old stuff is far more superior. Saddens me.
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Male 15
Hahahaahaha, the guy on the right is just a triangle xD
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Male 182
Wrong. It`s just more stylized now. The animation in modern cartoons is also generally smoother than the old "still frame with a few frames of mouth animation" style of cartoons (That is to say the cartoons on TV, not the movies.)

Honestly it all just comes down to a difference of opinion, neither is actually "better" than the other, or even "lazier". For frame by frame animation, I`d say that the gummi bears characters are probably easier to draw accurately.

I am equally impressed by both. Gummi Bears was awesome though! ;)
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Male 1,067
@MapleFr3ak

They do air the older stuff, it`s just on Disney Cinemagic so you have to pay extra to get it.
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Male 629
Why can`t they just air the old stuff?
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Male 15
Well, at least now we`re going to get less people growing up as furries.
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Female 99
@LandoGriffin The point of this post is showing that the older cartoons have more deatil than the new ones as shown by the two pics above...
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Female 956
Lando... it`s not the similarities that we are comparing, it`s the fact they are so vastly different in the sense that the animation for disney in the 90s obviously took a hell of a lot more skill than some disney animation today.
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Male 3,842
I don`t understand this post at all. Phineas and Ferb were created by Dan Povenmire. Drawn by hand, the old fashioned way. I`ve seen him do a demonstration on TV for how he draws Phineas, Candace, and Perry.

What exactly is the similarity with the old Disney Gummi Bears cartoon supposed to be? I`m not seeing it.
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Male 720
LOL
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Male 3,076
Phineas and Ferb is awesome :-P
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Male 1,815
It`s these damned computers. They don`t have to pay people to draw, which can be hard and time consuming. They just have two guys re-hashing old movements a thousand times because it`s cheap and easy. And looks boring and terrible.
I think Recess was probably the last great Disney cartoon. Sure, The Weekenders and Kim Possible were good, but Recess was legendary.
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Male 731
Tailspin. Chip `N` Dale Rescue Rangers. Ducktales. Darkwing Duck. Goof Troop.

The Disney Afternoon was the cream of the cartoon crop.
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Male 2,748
its not that they`re lazy... its just the artist style... oh, and marketing. btw, phineas and ferb is probably the only cartoon by disney worth watching nowadays anyway...
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Male 599
Those bears don`t look appetizing at all.
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Male 2,893
@Batmanners
Samurai Jack was sooo FTW.
I`m glad you reminded me of that show.
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Male 2,004
hey, Phineas and Ferb is awesome, just sayin`
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Male 2,893
Desney channel is a big pile of crap anyways.
Pixar is where Disney is at.
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Male 2,506
I hate new cartoons. drating cat dog was so creative, not it`s time travel OMG SO UNIQUE! smd
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Male 1,244
I wish we would move back 20 years... It just seems like things would be better...
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Male 285
that`s because kids are stupid these days.
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Male 4,004
It`s not about what the animation looks like. In the end it`s what will draw kids in. Phineas (How do you pronounce that? Fine-ass?)and Ferb looks much more colorful and energetic than the Gummi Bears. I never watched the Gummi Bears since I grew up with the Raccoons and Care Bears.

And Phineas and Ferb still looks better drawn than Powerpuff Girls, except PPG are so FTW. And Samurai Jack also FTW.
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Male 1,371
err....Who cares?
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Male 179
well, i`m not really familiar with either because i`ve only seen phineas and ferb once and found it rather boring, and i didn`t have the disney channel in 1990 because it was a pay-channel then.
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Female 10
I think it`s because Adventures of the Gummi Bears is very detailed and Phineas and Ferb is a bunch of shapes.
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Male 907
The point is that in 1991, they did these elaborate character drawings, now it`s just a few shapes.
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Male 541
does anyone get it?
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Male 38
Does anyone else notice the triangle head!?
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Male 17
I`ve been looking at this picture for 7 minutes now, and for the life of me, I have no idea what connection I`m supposed to draw. Help?
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Female 1,441
Apart from the shows on PBS kids (like Arthur) I never really cared for cartoons. I loved Madeline though.
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Male 1,351
I think I`ve seen the gummi bears. Either way, Phineas and Ferb is actually pretty funny (though I agree with IamBored29, the characters draw origins from other shows).
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Male 113
Curse you Perry the Platypus
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Male 648
After babysitting my nephew, the cartoonists are re-using characters all over the place and kids have no clue.
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Male 90
@omgzelda Rocko`s Modern Life was AWESOME, its my favorite show from when I was younger. I can still watch it and find it epic funny.

As for Phinneus and ferb.. I havent seen it. I know one of the co-creators was a writer for family guy.
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Female 406
Bring back Gummi Bears!!
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Male 2,424
Degenerates.
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Female 1,623
I love Phineas and Ferb. Mostly because of Perry the Platypus
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Male 270
anime ftw
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Male 699
when my little bro watches that show, i like to watch the platypus scenes,those are kinda funny...COURAGE THE COWARDLY DOG!!!!
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Male 1,931
Call me thralled with nostalgia, but Gummi Bears is a far superior show to... that other one. It had far more rounded stories, characters, arcs, etc. While that Phineas and Ferb (may have spelled that wrong), is just another generic ripoff. I think having complex stories helps shape the minds of our children, this drivel does not.
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Female 1,593
I miss Gummi Bears.

Anyway, Phineas and Ferb is created by the creators of Rocko`s Modern Life. Big surprise there, eh?
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Male 716
Sometimes simplicity is best for animation. It`s cultural evolution.

For instance, evolution in architecture from decorated-with-frill everywhere stone buildings to sleek glass ones.


But I like the old ones better. The new CONTENT just sucks in general.
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Female 477
why the f.uck are they shaped so weird. a triangle shaped head, really?
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Female 9,560
It`s not like most kids are going to know any better.
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Female 123
High five D3rAnG3d! I remember the song too!
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Female 275
OMG Gummi Bears! I loved that show!
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Female 451
kids like simple stuff.
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Male 452
AnarchistGod got it.

Just take a look at those stoner cartoons on adult swim that look like they were drawn with a dull purple crayon.
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Male 497
it`s the cool cheap style of cartoon network which is just comedy and stuff
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Male 1,882
Holy drat it`s the Gummi Bears.
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Female 448
Many.
First being, when does Epic Mickey come out?
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Male 1,598
Gummie Bears! Bouncing here and there and everywhere! wooh! loved that show :)
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Female 1,190
whatever, phineas and ferb ftw
squirrels in my pants! :D
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Male 1,081
wat
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Female 8
B-|
Hahaha.
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Male 893
They`re not getting lazier; they`re getting smarter. They realized that kids don`t care that much about animation unless it`s in 3D or something. It`s not likely that they`re going to spend money on nice animation if the profits aren`t there.
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Female 1,264
"But yes, its characters look relatively simple."

D: They are a shame to humanity.

I agree, the series is actually fun. I`ve watched it a couple of times and I enjoyed it. But the drawing style makes me cry.
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Male 7,817
its not just disney, simplistic animation is very popular these days.
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Male 430
@shadowtube
I think I`ll watch lion king tonight.
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Male 163
as long as there is weed, there will be adults watching cartoons.
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Male 768
"I can`t believe some people here on IAB (referencing to other comments) watch Disney shows! IAB is not for 4-10 yr olds! look at the NSFW pics off Fancy`s hard drive! those are proof IAB isn`t meant for 4-10 yr olds!"
You don`t have to be 4-10 to like cartoons, dude.
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Female 3,828
i love disney stuff. i collect all the disney classics
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Male 352
Phineas and Ferb is a fantastic series that should never be insulted. I am 19 and I watch that show (and only ever that show) on Disney Channel.

But yes, its characters look relatively simple.
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Male 31
@Shadowtube

People have kids, bro.
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Male 2,441
According to IAB posters it isn`t bad!
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Female 200
"I can`t believe some people here on IAB (referencing to other comments) watch Disney shows! IAB is not for 4-10 yr olds! look at the NSFW pics off Fancy`s hard drive! those are proof IAB isn`t meant for 4-10 yr olds!"
Are you kidding me? Most of the Disney shows today are, granted, pretty terrible, but some of the oldies are classic! I still enjoy Disney movies to this day, and some of the old shows were pretty awesome. I know not everyone my age or older is still into Disney, but still, there are some of us, and I can assure you I am a lot older than 10.
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Female 612
"I can`t believe some people here on IAB (referencing to other comments) watch Disney shows! IAB is not for 4-10 yr olds! look at the NSFW pics off Fancy`s hard drive! those are proof IAB isn`t meant for 4-10 yr olds!"

Just because some people still take time to enjoy the simpler things in life does not mean they are not adults. My college-educated English teacher, who is about 40, likes Phineas and Ferb. Most people in their twenties still enjoy cartoons, and many continue enjoying them well beyond then.

No one implied by this that IAB is suddenly a children`s site. It was just a reference between the past being better than the present, because we are mostly old enough to remember 1991 and everyone likes to think things were better in their day (especially Disney).
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Female 535
I thought everyone knew that "bad animation" was the cool thing to do these days?
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Male 253
I can`t believe some people here on IAB (referencing to other comments) watch Disney shows! IAB is not for 4-10 yr olds! look at the NSFW pics off Fancy`s hard drive! those are proof IAB isn`t meant for 4-10 yr olds!
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Male 17,512
Actually P&F is pretty decent animation
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Male 206
I don`t have any questions only because I wouldn`t know what to ask.
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Female 124
Err, so different styles are equal to laziness? I`d understand if the comparison was made to a crappy cut-out show done in bad flash, but the show`s actually pretty good in terms of quality, and that`s coming from the animation buff...
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Female 1,043
p+f is ok...
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Male 1,765
Hey, I enjoy the occasional Phineas and Ferb episode and I`m not ashamed to admit it. That shows has some clever jokes there.
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Male 25,417
meh
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Male 500
Phineas and Ferb is a good show
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Male 157
Terrible comparison is terrible. One is a scanned artist`s work, while the other is someone`s digital camera and a TV. Try harder.
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Male 838
guuummmiii beeeaarsss... bouncing here and there and everryyywhere.... high adventure that`s beyond comparreeee... lol
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Female 285
Hey, Phineas and Ferb is win....
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Male 300
P&F are awesome! At least as far as crappy Disney kid shows go. There`s at least some modicum of intelligence.
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Male 2,688
I agree 100% with this post...
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Male 15,510
All the resources are going to the 3D animation
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Male 4,680
Stylized = laziness now? I think it`s good how Disney isn`t using the same old animation style over and over again.
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Male 20,829
Link: Disney Animators Just Getting Lazier [Pic] [Rate Link] - The proof is in the side-by-side comparison.
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