Town In Australia Is First In World To Ban...?

Submitted by: Matwix_2004 6 years ago
http://www.globalone.tv/group/sustainablesolutions/forum/topics/worlds-first-ban-on-bottled

This, (unlike the ban on all the best video games) is actually a good idea.
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Female 77
HURRAY! The whole world needs to do this. It`s gonna be too late soon.
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Male 1,193
"I do not like being told what to drink and what vessel I should drink it from."

I hope you die
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Female 1,380
@bigdaddyjeff yes....there is nothing wrong with how I spelt "f.uckkkk" get over it. kthx
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Male 368
@JUGGALETTEx0 so dratkkk is spelled correctly?
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Female 40
I think bottled water should be banned. Good for them!
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Male 185
There are times when bottled water is necessary, like when there is no potable water available, but mostly bottled water is the biggest marketing scam ever.
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Male 14,330
SOOO what if your tap water isn`t drinkable like mine? Soon they`re gonna dictate how much toilet paper you can wipe your ass with. ***start inventing paperometer*** hehehe I`m gonna be rich and therefore exempt from these laws like the rest of the well to do.
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Female 1,380
Sunday, July 25, 2010 6:33:49 PM
"dratkkkk that. Bottled water is so much more convinent!"

"Spoken like a true ICP fan, spelling errors and all"

Hey rainbow, where I`m from "errors" means more than one. "Convenient" is the only word spelt wrong. Kthxbye

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Female 4,039
vv What about the typical 7-Eleven set-up with a whole wall of soda and other drinks that you dispense yourself into a paper cup and then bring to the register?
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Female 728
Oystah: Not necessarily. Water can be obtained through taps and fountains as well. Soda can only be obtained in a plastic bottle, a glass bottle, or a paper cup. The paper cup method would make it difficult for a retailer because they would have to set an employee on refilling the machine whenever anything gets low and the glass bottle method would mean there would be a lot of shattered glass on the ground. Plastic bottles seem to be the most practical storage of soda.

Water is most practically stored in a personal refillable water bottle because then it can be procured from a tap or fountain and the plastic wouldn`t be thrown out right away. On the other hand, there are some places in the world (even in the US) where you don`t want to drink the tap water. I think, ultimately, the word is "moderation" where bottled water is concerned.
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Female 4,039
To be consistent, no beverages at all should be in a plastic bottle. I`m sure there are just as many plastic soda bottles and juice bottles as there are water bottles out there.
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Female 728
"In order to be consistent, you should oppose all laws on principle. Every law tells people what to do or not do and thus stops them making their own choice.

Do you oppose all laws on principle?"

Actually, I oppose many laws on principle, but some laws do have merit. Those laws that prevent people from infringing on the rights of others are meaningful. I`m on the fence regarding bottled water: on the one hand, it creates a lot of non-biodegradable waste, which means larger landfills. On the other, everything we do creates waste of some sort. If you want us to stop doing things that affect the environment for the worse in the long term, you would have us go back at least to Renaissance technology, if not earlier.
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Male 20
Good for them. There`s no reason for bottled water, really... If you don`t like the tap water you have, then get a Brita filter or something. You`ll still save money, and you`ll stop the production of more plastic. Win-win.
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Male 418
ALL BOTTLES ARE REFILLABLE U RETARDS
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Male 269
Great, I wish bottle water would go away. I`ve never bought one in my life, I also stopped using plastic bags back in 1994. Stop the plastic!
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Male 1,240
Like Moefreak, I enjoy living in a country (Sweden) where the tap water is better than most if not all bottled water.

Well, I want to say that, but recently i was in a small town for four weeks, and the water tasted like dirt.

But Stockholms water is brilliant, and sales of non-carbonated water in stores are loooooooow.
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Male 12,365
[quote]@Mimill928 and Kairobert - I`m not stubborn, nor do I enjoy degrading the environment. I simply don`t like being told what to do and how to do it - I can make up my own mind to use a refillable bottle if I want to - I don`t need a law telling me what to do - I am all for PSAs that encourage people to do certain things, but you should be able to make your own choice.[/quote]

In order to be consistent, you should oppose all laws on principle. Every law tells people what to do or not do and thus stops them making their own choice.

Do you oppose all laws on principle?
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Female 4,039
vv huh?
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Male 321
"I do not like being told what to drink and what vessel I should drink it from."

What do you think the bottled water companies are doing? You`re just choosing which one to listen to.
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Male 635
<<<This is a good idea I think. I kinda cringe when I see all the plastic bottles in the trash, knowing where they`ll end up. >>>

Why? They go to landfill, or they wind up in a recycling stream. So what? Would you rather we burned them so that the CO2 is released? How about we just send all the propylene and ethylene to flare in the first place instead of making useful things out of it?
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Male 877
austrailians?
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Female 4,039
@Mimill928 and Kairobert - I`m not stubborn, nor do I enjoy degrading the environment. I simply don`t like being told what to do and how to do it - I can make up my own mind to use a refillable bottle if I want to - I don`t need a law telling me what to do - I am all for PSAs that encourage people to do certain things, but you should be able to make your own choice.
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Female 275
@Oystah
I do not like having my environment degraded by someone who can`t be bothered to have a reusable bottle.
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Male 441
I wish we could do that here. Bottle water is horrible for so many reasons. Horrible for the economy and the environment.
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Male 1,623
"I do not like being told what to drink and what vessel I should drink it from."

You are stubborn. Start listening to the information other people have to offer.
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Male 415
Smart move aussies
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Female 4,039
I do not like being told what to drink and what vessel I should drink it from.
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Male 314
Doesn`t US get that redemable 5 cents thing on all bottles including soda and water? I know we have it here in NY
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Male 6,694
I like my bottled water.
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Female 535
.....Australians don`t drink water?


Beer is made from water, duh.
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Male 2,592
This is a good idea I think. I kinda cringe when I see all the plastic bottles in the trash, knowing where they`ll end up. A better idea would to do with water bottles what we do with pop bottles here in Michigan. 10 cent deposits. There are NO pop/beer cans or bottles on the ground or in landfills in MI. Pop-Bottle Petes (some call him Pop-Bottle John) in every town in this state ensure this. But since theres no deposit on water or non-carbonated drinks here, those are everywhere.
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Female 877
ewww neagle can you put that disgusting pic away please x(
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Male 3,431
Meh, it`s Australia, they don`t drink water anyhow.
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Female 250
Missing text from below post.

*people who need it can`t get chlorine free water?
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Female 250
"If we are aware of a problem and know how to solve it, we should simply ignore the less intelligent and do it anyway. Who gives a poo what these whiny morons think is happening to there freedoms."

It`s not freedom, it`s health.

For instance I can`t drink chlorinated water... Many people can`t. I can`t even bathe in it without massive skin issues happening. Most people have more minor issues, but it`s still their in a significant amount of the population.

Now lets say I am in a foreign town. I can`t go drink from a public fountain due to this. I can`t drink their water at all. I need to buy bottled water (and even then have to be careful, some still has chlorine). Of course I carry water from my own house (cleaned in a reverse osmosis filter) BUT say I am 500km from home and out of water in this town?

I would need bottled water. And I couldn`t go get it. And THAT is a health concern.

So what happens if everywhere adopts this and pe
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Male 1,678
Thank God only one tiny town is stupid enough to think this is a good idea. If it becomes more widespread all the bottled water companies will go out of business and a pooload more people will lose their jobs in a world economy thats already drated up. If you wanted to refill bottles is there anything actually stopping you from doing this without this law? No. So why take away a busnesses right to sell or a consumers right to purchase?
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Male 734
Goddamn hippies!
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Male 1,646
its only the freedom of choice until it begins to affect our environment and future generations. freedom of choice is being allowed to choose between apples and oranges; not having the choice to destroy or save. If we are aware of a problem and know how to solve it, we should simply ignore the less intelligent and do it anyway. Who gives a poo what these whiny morons think is happening to there freedoms.
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Male 1,404


These days public fountains are not the best of idea to use.
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Male 234
"Gotta love the nanny state."

did you actually read the article? the people voted for the bottled water to be banned.
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Male 230
@yarrrpirate
saying people are to dumb to make the right choice is the same as saying they have no choice. If there really is a choice then they have the right to make the wrong one, that is freedom.
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Male 480
I support this. It will encourage the use of reusable bottles, and filtered tap water rather than people throwing away plastic bottles.
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Male 394
"Nothing like taking away peoples freedom of choice"

While freedom of choice is lovely in theory, sometimes people are simply too dumb to make the right choices.
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Male 351
Gotta love the nanny state.
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Male 97
BOOO CLIMATE CHANGE.
YAY RENEWABLE poo!!!!
hahaha =]
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Male 9
Nothing like taking away peoples freedom of choice
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Female 917
I`m a horrible person. I buy bottled water all the time.

It`s just more convenient for me.
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Male 2,506
Thats epic, i wish we had water fountains all over
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Female 5,222
:o
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Male 21
God forbid this comes to pass in America. Granted I usually refill my own bottle from the tap (water is water to me), I hate the idea of government telling me what I can and can`t buy. Those businesses have the right to sell a product, and no one is forced to buy water in a bottle.
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Male 10,845
Good for them.
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Female 73
now let`s start this in America
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Male 770
all this time i was just refilling the bottled water bottles from the tap and i had no idea you needed special `reusable` bottles in order to safely reuse them. I`m gonna start throwing them away from now on.
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Female 798
"dratkkkk that. Bottled water is so much more convinent!"

Spoken like a true ICP fan, spelling errors and all :-/
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Male 423
AGREEEEEED
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Male 151
what a great idea, good for them
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Male 915
now if Australia would only ban...Australia. THAT would impress me!
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Female 1,380
dratkkkk that. Bottled water is so much more convinent!
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Male 118
fantastic idea
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Male 774
...

Wow, this must be one of those things that seem obvious when you think about it but never actually come up with the idea.

I promote this. :thumbs:
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Female 40
oh and Melbourne tap water has fluoride added, so it is more beneficial for stronger teeth.
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Female 40
The tap water in Australia (specifically in Melbourne) actually tastes decent - much better than what I`ve tasted overseas and in bottles.
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Male 317
The article says "posted on September 26, 2009" I am surprised I didn`t hear about this sooner...

And to you people going on about bottled water - Nestle, Aquafina, Dasani, Walmart brand and most store brands etc., is filtered municipal water. In some cases, where you live depends on where it comes from. Look it up and stop debating facts...
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Female 1,963
Gotta love living in a country where our tap water is more pure than bottled water around the world. (Finland)

imbored454, you wouldn`t be allowed to lie in the sense that somewhere on the bottle it must say "bottled at ...", but even if it`s water from the municipal supply, they are still free to call the water "Fresh springs" or "Crystal mountain" or something equally misleading.
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Female 332
GREAT IDEA!!!
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Male 12,365
[quote]No, you`re thinking of bottled water that DOESN`T say mountain spring... Purified or filtered or whatever (anything that doesn`t say it`s from a spring basically) is generally from municipal supplies.[/quote]

Is that a legal requirement in the USA? I mean, some of my tap water comes from a spring initially. Water from springs often ends up in reservoirs. It wouldn`t be totally a lie to call it spring water.

At home, I drink tap water in a hard water area. It`s perfectly drinkable. If I cared, I could buy a simple filter. At work, I drink the same water chilled and filtered by one of the machines. That`s purer than bottled water (which can be less pure than unfiltered tap water).
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Male 12,365
[quote]I prefer bottled water for taste. When you drink a lot of tap water you can tell it`s filled with chlorine, and makes you feel bloated. That being said, I ALWAYS recycle my bottles, so I don`t see why what I`m doing is wrong.[/quote]

That depends on how you define "wrong".

No recycling is perfect and in most cases it`s far from perfect. So you`re still using up a lot of resources for your bottles, just a bit less than if you didn`t recycle them. It`s much better than them ending up dumped in a landfill or in the sea, though.

That`s assuming your bottles actually are recycled. How do you know what happens after you put them in for recycling?

Where does your bottled water come from? Driving a lorry full of bottled water is far more environmentally damaging and resource intensive than pumping water through pipes.
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Male 2,868
This is full of win.
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Male 51
"Well, considering a good deal of the bottled "mountain spring" water comes from the freakin` city taps anyway, why not ban the bottled water?"

No, you`re thinking of bottled water that DOESN`T say mountain spring... Purified or filtered or whatever (anything that doesn`t say it`s from a spring basically) is generally from municipal supplies.
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Female 316
Well, considering a good deal of the bottled "mountain spring" water comes from the freakin` city taps anyway, why not ban the bottled water?
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Male 366
I used to burn through a twelve pack of bottled water in one week. Then they started charging extra for bottle deposits so I got a brita filter instead. No taste difference and no huge collection of plastic bottles in my recycling bin.
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Male 757
not the first, my town made a bylaw against selling bottled water but that only lasted about a month
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Male 2,160
not a bad idea, but been doing something similar for ages, using a old army canteen and refilling it, clean canteen and chilled tap water tastes the same as the bottled nonsense
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Female 612
"I prefer bottled water for taste. When you drink a lot of tap water you can tell it`s filled with chlorine, and makes you feel bloated. That being said, I ALWAYS recycle my bottles, so I don`t see why what I`m doing is wrong."

You should buy a water filter. I don`t know the rest of the country survives on hard, icky water, but with a Brita or the like it tastes much better. And it is still "wrong" (your word, not mine) because every time the plastic bottle is recycled, it has to be cleaned and reformed, which takes up a great deal of energy. Less than making only new bottles, of course, but still, it`s a lot more energy than just making one filter and one reusable bottle that would last one person for several years.
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Male 17,512
Buy a kitchen faucet filter, Some gallon jugs, Fill them, Put them in the fridge to chill, Pour & Enjoy.

100x Cheaper than bottled water, No plastic bottle waste.
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Male 25,416
next thing there gonna do is charge for bottled water :)
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Male 285
I totally agree with this.
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Female 612
Good for them. I sincerely hope it happens stateside. I wouldn`t be surprised if it happened in Seattle, since most of the population already owns at least one steel/aluminum water bottle and many people use reusable shopping bags. They`ve already banned using plastic and Styrofoam containers at restaurants.
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Male 159
I prefer bottled water for taste. When you drink a lot of tap water you can tell it`s filled with chlorine, and makes you feel bloated. That being said, I ALWAYS recycle my bottles, so I don`t see why what I`m doing is wrong.
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Male 37,897
I drink beer. glass is recyclable... and if thrown out it`s bio-safe :)
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Male 1
NoArms5534 - just like how the government forced us to abolish slavery, give women and all visible minorities equal rights, mandate racial integration in schools, legalized inter-racial marriages, and protect all minority groups from hate-crimes. You`re absolutely right, how dare they think they know better than the general public (sarcasm).
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Male 9,306
"lobby your government..."

If I had the money to do that, I`d start a damn country myself. :P
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Male 734
About f*cking time. Hope this takes off elsewhere.
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Female 322
You shouldn`t use non-refillable bottles - the kind you buy water in - it`s because washing those bottles releases carciogenics. (sp?.) and other bad-for-you things. Purdue science major told me that.
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Male 1,625
Spartakitty: Smh.
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Male 931
Kitchen tap water is the only water i drink.
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Male 196
Yes, why change opinions when we can legistlate?! Government: forcing you to do what`s good for you whether you like it or not, because they know better.
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Male 2,748
Yea, i only ever get bottled water if i know im gonna need to carry water with me, won`t have access to a fountain, and i alway reuse the bottle at least once. before recylcing :)
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Male 203
WRONG! Concord, Massachusetts banned bottled water almost THREE MONTH AGO! My home town!

Here is a link to prove it. From the Boston Globe.

http://bit.ly/c09Y8T.
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Male 2,514
So it`s not actually a ban on bottled water, but non-reusable bottled water.
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Female 2,120
Good. People who drink bottled water are really stupid.
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Female 1,604
I think it is a good idea. What is the difference between drinking it out of a plastic bottle or putting it in a refillable one? (I am not talking about the cons of drinking out of a plastic bottle)
I tell you it is much cheaper with the reusable ones
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Male 1,011
Good.

Bottled water is a scam anyhow, most brands come from the tap anyhow...the only times to have a bottle of water and not look like an idiot is when you;

A) buy 1 bottle of water, and refill it
B)you are going someplace you know doesnt have water readily available
C) you know the water is probably bad.
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Male 877

Nidonemo
Male, 18-29, Western US
8353 Posts Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:16:36 PM
Okay good, now make sure the fluoride is filtered out.



lobby your government...
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Female 1,593
If it weren`t for bottled water, I wouldn`t drink water.
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Male 473
wOO!
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Female 3,001
leeds university banned bottled water ages ago, and as a student i do not appreciate it.
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Male 273
smart. smart doesn`t happen too often.
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Male 90
ya its silly. Pop bottles are made of plastic,gatorade to,and all sorts of others,so no water bottles isnt going to help. And it wont help the big picture anyhow,i guess they will save $. I have an ECODISC,biodegradable cd,why cant they make ECOBOTTLES? Or have they ?
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Male 315
Good for them! *finished my bottle of water. Throws in the regular trash. Grab another bottle*
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Male 9,306
Okay good, now make sure the fluoride is filtered out.
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Female 15,763
There are so many more health regulations on tap water than on bottled water that when people prefer bottled it makes me sad.
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Male 2,551
Link: Town In Australia Is First In World To Ban...? [Rate Link] - This, (unlike the ban on all the best video games) is actually a good idea.
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