The Origin Of The Name Soccer: Now You Know

Submitted by: Ani187 7 years ago in Sports
http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/its-football-to-you-soccer-to-me--fbintl_ro-soccervsfootball070110.html

In your face, Brits and the rest of the "It"s football, not soccer" world!!
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Male 6,694
I played soccer.
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Male 37
And here now: The real explanation
It`s football, even when you say soccer. :)
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Male 284
i`d like to see sources on this instead of some random heresay some douche conjured up like an impotent wizard.
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Female 535
Why do some people/countries call it soccer and not football? TO AVOID CONFUSION. Now shutup about it.
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Male 12,365
The answer to that is well known - rugby is a spinoff from football.

Rugby is never called football, though, so it`s not the same situation as American football. Strictly speaking it`s Rugby rules football, but it`s never called that either. Rugby or (rarely) rugby football, but never just football.
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Female 99
So if American football, Canadian football and Australian Football are all variations of Rugby football, I think the question we need to ask is "how come rugby is football?"
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Male 914
soccer is a synonym for football as doucherocket is a synonym for australians
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Male 12,365
[quote]Rugby impact forces are the same as American Football levels, so the padding makes it less painful. You have never seen professional rugby if you think they are more in American Football.[/quote]

I have seen professional rugby. I`ve played rugby. I`ve seen the results of experiments measuring impact forces for rugby and on the outside of the padding for American football.

I am confident that I am right and you are wrong.
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Female 3,828
In canada we call it soccar, but it really SHOULD be called football, i think.
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Male 49
Wow... This is a laod of bullcrap IMO. Soccer is the American word for it, Football is the British word for it. (I hate the word British because for some reason Americans insist on calling me British even though I`m ENGLISH).

I know many British people are snooty towards the American way of calling it soccer but the Sun, Daily Mail, all those tabloids DO NOT give the view of a nation. They give the view of stuck up, ignorant people who just want to have an argument. I have no idea why Americans seem to think that Britain has something against them. But it annoys me a hell of a lot. I`m not a fan of the sport so I don`t really care. But Football makes a hell of a lot more sense than Soccer does. Also most of the world calls it football. Russia, France, Spain, Portugal, all Spanish speaking countries. It isn`t just Britain that calls it Football.
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Male 122
Rugby impact forces are the same as American Football levels, so the padding makes it less painful. You have never seen professional rugby if you think they are more in American Football.
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Male 12,365
[quote]it`s cause stupid yanks have an idiotic whimpy game and call it football[/quote]

Wimpy? The clue train didn`t stop at your station, did it?

There are plenty of things to complain about with American football, chief of which is how little of any given match is actually played (play for a minute...wait...wait...wait...aha, another minute...wait...wait...wait) but it`s definitely a hard sport. The armour drops the impact forces down to roughly rugby levels, so you`re still going to get hurt.
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Male 1,386
now the word "soccer" looks weird :/
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Male 91
Right, so a few retards in one part of England APPARENTLY called it Soccer, according to one Doctors Martin Rogers and Clive Toye which means the WHOLE of England call it Soccer?

Wait...Martin Rogers isn`t a Doctor and is just some dude with a twitter page who has just spouted a load of crap?! Oh no, stupid soccer theory debunked!
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Male 707
Why in my face?? im not even british......thank god =)
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Male 697
Whoever said footballers got rewarded for diving is an ass-hat. That`s why they get booked for doing it these days.
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Female 305
"soccer" ftw. but soccer=epic fail
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Male 50
@jamesrs Will stop calling you brits when you stop calling us yanks.
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Male 792
American football (aka "football") is a variation of Rugby football (aka "Rugby"). Properly, it`s "American Rules Football", just as there`s "Australian Rules Football", and "Canadian Rules Football" (all of which are Rugby variants). Those became shortened to just "football".
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Male 5,194
>>stop calling us brits! when it comes to football England, Northen Ireland, Scotland and wales...

Yeah! They`re EUROPEANS, dammit! Get with the program!
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Male 306
Why is that game in the United states called football? You know the game where people run into eachother. They barely use their feet to kick the ball. Or am I wrong because I have never seen American Football.
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Male 232
@zepth, if you really think professional football (NFL) is whimpy, you must be drating Chuck Norris or something. It`d probably kill you if you got tackled by a 300 lbs linebacker. drating stupid ass brit.
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Female 1,287
That article was way too long.
I learned that it used to be called `Association Football,` by them Brits, then to shorten that up it morphed into `Assoc.` which then turned into `soccer` from `soc.`

I call it soccer. Because it`s how I learned what the freakin` game was. Even whenever I try and call it football, I can`t seem to help but imagine the NFL. Everyone knows what `soccer` is. While using `football` you have to specify /which/ football you mean. Which takes up far too much time when you`re busy cringing at the television screen.
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Male 395
Soccer = Association Football. I thought everyone knew that.
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Male 38
Here Here Buiadh "The issue Brits have is not that you call it "soccer", but that you don`t call it "football"."

it`s cause stupid yanks have an idiotic whimpy game and call it football... and no-one else in the world agrees with them
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Male 51
its short for association football, used to be called soccer...but now just football
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Male 85
stop calling us brits! when it comes to football England, Northen Ireland, Scotland and wales have different teams and the rivalry is strong.
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Male 6,737
Of course it`s an English anme for football. I could`ve told you that rather than getting some journo to write you an aticle on it.

The issue Brits have is not that you call it "soccer", but that you don`t call it "football".
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Male 1,108
Handsompod -

Yeah Skine, how lame are you?

- Handsompod

Handsompod -

P.S. This article sucked, this is common knowledge. I might write an article on where poo comes from so I can amaze my peers.

- Handsompod
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Male 187
It`s short for "Association Football". It`s not complicated.
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Male 5,194
Oh. I thought it was called "vuvuzela". Whatever.
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Male 145
@icklevamp That`s correct, American football players never run, nor kick the ball. The use of their feet is non existent.
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Male 145
Honestly, Skine, signing your name to a post that will already be preceded by your name and avatar is idiotic.
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Male 99
And do people really believe `The Sun` is the voice of the nation? Sun readership 3m, pop of UK 60m. The 57m who don`t read `The Sun` (otherwise known as a comic) could not give a $hit if its called football or soccer
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Male 364
A Yahoo writer wrote it so it must be true!

Doesn`t matter what its called, you have to live in England from August to May to see it played at the very best level.
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Female 375
Right, I get that you guys have your own football, but why do you not use your feet?? That`s like me calling our football "handball", it`s stupid, cause there are no hands involved?
Has anyone considered "overclothed rugby"? Or maybe "soccer", since that`s frankly not got the word foot in it.
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Male 719
So, we have:

Ass. Football
Rug. Football
Am. Football
Aus. Football
Gae. Football
and so on...
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Male 660
At LAST! Someone has explained where the name came from instead of just bitching about which is the correct usage.
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Male 15,832
Maybe we should call soccer "metric football."
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Male 249
we should just call every sport sportball. even chess.
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Male 719
Honestly, iab, this is another example of why I hate the "most recent post" ordering system.

It allows everyone to post without even considering reading any of the preceding entries. Personally, I think you need a better moderating and ordering system. As examples, tomshardware.com is pretty good, and slashdot.com is the pinnacle of moderation.

-skine
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Male 12,365
I`ve said for a while that football should be called assball in the USA. It would be good for some cheap laughs.

Dier...Yale would be consistent for American football. It`s a spinoff from Rugby. Rugby was named after the place most associated with the beginning of the sport. Yale is the place most associated with the beginning of American football. Yale football --> Yale, like Rugby football --> Rugby.

But the names aren`t going to change.
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Female 99
You could call it handball 2: now it`s egg shaped!
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Male 842
The main reason we in the US don`t call it football is because of our other sport named football. If we called soccer "football," what would the other sport be called? Yardball? Spiralball? "Sometimes kicked-sometimes thrown-sometimes carried-ball?
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Male 17,512
trailleadr: Would you have rather seen them use the first three letters A-S-S then we`d have Assball ?
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Male 2,402
I thought it was named due to the high socks covering the shin pads. How about soc as in socking (kick). Sock it to me baby!
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Male 715
"Wait... The Soc is from AsSOCiation?! That`s the WORST abbreviation I`ve ever seen, it doesn`t make any sense at all!"

yeah, because "Ass Football" would have been better. lol
But I do agree, that`s a horrible abbreviation.
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Male 716
See... the thing about what people call it... I don`t care.

I alternate names, sometimes in mid-sentence, to mess with people.
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Male 182
Wait... The Soc is from AsSOCiation?! That`s the WORST abbreviation I`ve ever seen, it doesn`t make any sense at all! No wonder almost everyone stopped using it... stop being so stubborn America! ;)
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Male 12,365
[quote]pdjr if an American football player played rugby , he would pwn the rugby players.[/quote]

Perhaps if he was allowed to wear armour and they weren`t, maybe, if he could catch them. Although he`d probably be too tired to do well for nearly all of the match, as a rugby match is 7 times longer than an American football match.

So you`re wrong.

[quote]Rugby players are dwarfs compared to American football players.[/quote]

That would require American football players to be 10 feet tall and weigh 500lbs.

Which is not the case.

So you`re wrong. Again.
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Male 2,688
Americans don`t give a f-u-c-k about soccer...



Amazing Atheist`s take on Soccer and various other things
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Male 663
no vorpal. rugby players are monsters, and in addition have better cardio than american football players since the sport demands it.
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Female 40
@Webz - In australia we still differentiate between Aussie Rules football and "football" - we also call the latter Soccer!
That`s because when one refers to footy, we`re usually talking about AFL (Australian Football League - Aussie rules football) or rugby.
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Male 113
Soccer = FAIL
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Male 1,013
It should be called "The sport in which we teach children how to properly dive"

The name is a tad long, but diving is rewarded in soccer. Losers and untrustable people like the sport.
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Female 15,763
Holy sh*t, guys. You`re getting pissier than an abortion link about Obama and global warming.

IT`S. SPORTS.
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Male 180
actually american football is called football, because like its predecessor rugby, most points were scored by kicking the ball. to get the touchdown you had to literally touch the ball down in the endzone (hence touchdown) and by gettin a touchdown (one point) that gave you the opportunity to score 6 points on the kick after the touchdown. and field goals were of course still 3 points.
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Male 541
Damn character limit lies...

In America, American Football is the most popular form of football, so similarly, IT is given the nickname `football` and the less popular Association Football is called `soccer`. At least that`s my reasoning.
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Male 1,452
pdjr if an American football player played rugby , he would pwn the rugby players. Rugby players are dwarfs compared to American football players.
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Male 541
"sometimes i wish that america would just shut up and get over such idiotic stuff. -.-`"

This coming from a European, the continent that NEVER shuts up about all the little things they hate about America, like the nerdy girl at high school always talking smack about the popular girl.

"Our point isn`t so much "it`s called football, not soccer" as it is "why call your football `football` when your feet don`t touch the ball?""

Some other sports which involve hand usage more than feet but are still officially known as football:

-Rugby Football
-Gaelic Football
-Australian Football

The thing is though, in all those countries, Association Football is more popular, so it`s given the nickname `football` while the others are called `rugby`, `gaelic` and `ozzie rules`.

In America, American Football is the most popular form of football, so similarly, IT is given the nickname `football` and the le
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Male 719
For all the people who are too lazy to look up Football on Wikipedia:

Football is a class of team sports that have similar origins. The use of the word "football" doesn`t necessarily mean "kicking the ball," seeing as some sports in the class outlaw kicking completely.

Ball games had been popular in Europe for centuries before any of these became popular, and regional codes were common. In the 1850`s, many football games were popular, usually split into "kicking" and "carrying," with a hybrid developed in Boston. Around that time, McGill (Montreal) took up a carrying game similar to rugby, while most Ivy League universities, excluding Harvard, took up kicking games, somewhat similar to soccer. Harvard and McGill played each other, and this variant of football became popular, and was later codified (1870`s).

Then, from 1878 to 1882, Walter Camp became active in proposing rule changes while attending Yale which would make
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Male 606
@ pdjr:

Call north american football players cowards when SOCCER players around the world stop falling over crying when someone brushes them with a hand or shoulder.
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Male 298
Its a ball you hit by your foot... football.

If its a sport played by cowards in armour throwing a ball to each other it should be called american pussyball
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Male 4,546
The origin of "Soccer", meaning it should be called "Soccer", surely then should mean America calls their Gridiron "Rugby".

Saying as it goes:

Football -> Association Football (Soccer) -> Football
Football -> Rugby Football (Rugby) -> American Football

The patterns for their roots, show that the exact same argument applies to calling American Football Rugby. Cept you wear lycra and pads.
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Male 219
Soccer almost certainly pre-dates 1863, the association football myth has long been questioned. Mary Queen of Scots was noted remarking on how well her retinue played in a football match on the castle soceries. She died in 1587. The real issue is that `American Football`, as a relative newcomer, should retain it`s `American` prefix. Football is Soccer not the padded up and slightly camp version of rugby the Americans choose to play.
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Female 149
"Our point isn`t so much "it`s called football, not soccer" as it is "why call your football `football` when your feet don`t touch the ball?""

It`s not called football because your feet touch the ball. It was originally called football because it was played by "lower class" people on foot, as compared to "upper class" people playing on horses.
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Female 190
Our point isn`t so much "it`s called football, not soccer" as it is "why call your football `football` when your feet don`t touch the ball?"
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Male 39,524
:-P So THERE europe!
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Male 43
Ridiculous. British (not just English) have referred to the game as Soccer for many years, as per the explanation in the item on i-am-bored. The British (myself included) are at home referring to the game that we invented as "soccer" as we are calling it football. It is only the USA that need to differentiate it against their bastardised rugby game that they call football. I remember in my childhood (30 years back), Dickie Davis, sports commentator accidentally referring to it as "World Cop Sucker" and appearing on out-takes compilation shows ever since.
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Female 13
sometimes i wish that america would just shut up and get over such idiotic stuff. -.-`
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Male 84
soccer sucks anyways it is the easiest way to fall asleep in the middle of the day after two cups of coffee
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Male 285
Waiting sucks. Crybabys suck. Being bored sucks. Soccer sucks
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Male 107
It´s funny how two countries can get so worked up about the names of a sport.
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Male 697
Originally traffic was on the left, and 75 countries drive on the left today. 165 drive on the right, so it is split 1:2 really. So do you count the side with most countries being right, or whatever came first? You can`t possibly choose a right or wrong side to drive on.
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Male 422
Heh. At least we dont drive on the wrong side of the road ;)
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Male 12,365
General usage in the UK is quite strange if you look at it objectively - it is normal to use a mash of metric and imperial systems and it`s normal for different people to use different ones. So, for example, I use metric for temperature, imperial for distances, imperial for weights of people but metric for weights of everything else, metric for some liquids but imperial for others. Other people use a different mix.
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Male 3,819
This story`s been told in every thread about football/soccer for the past month.

Good to see somebody who isn`t talking of their ass tell it in an eloquent way, though.
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Male 12,365
None of this is new - it`s been hashed out in a couple of threads already.

The use of the word "football" for the sport predates the use of the word "soccer" by OVER 600 YEARS. That`s only for the oldest extant written record - it is clear that football existed before then.
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Male 697
"So forget that English condescension and carry on calling it soccer, safe in the knowledge that you’re more in tune with the roots of the sport than those mocking Brits."

It was still called football before soccer though, so that`s a load of bull. People who call it football are more in tune...

And anyway, in your face all you Americans who like calling it soccer because you think you`re being individual and separate from Britain!
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Male 544
@inaria I know, right? I hate using the American system. It`s bologna. I try to use the metric system whenever possible. I still have a heck of a time trying to do temperature in Celsius, though.
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Male 12,365
[quote]I am still baffled as to why you guys decided to swap sides of the road to drive on, I`ll look up the origins of that sometime[/quote]

I`ve read two explanations. No real evidence for them, but either could be plausible.

i) In the early days of British/European colonisation of America, a striking difference was the amount of space. This led to the use of wider roads and larger carts for carrying bulk materials like farm produce. These larger carts required 2 or even 4 horses. They were easier to control when sitting to the left of the cart. It was then easier to judge safe passing of things to your left, as you couldn`t see the right side of your cart. So carts passed to each other`s left, i.e. on the right side of the road.

ii) Because everyone else used the left and always had. USA was NEW and DIFFERENT!
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Female 1,515
@Mitchster my fiance is american and I always tell him how retarded it is for american to not be using the metric system!
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Male 2,033
Ah the road argument, this is really common sense. A bit long to explain fully here so um... read it elsewhere
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Male 943
"Rounders is a game played between two teams each alternating between batting and fielding. The game originated in England and has been played there since Tudor times, with the earliest reference being in 1745 in A Little Pretty Pocket-Book where it is called `baseball`."

LOL to Mr.It`s-rounders-not-baseball
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Male 25,417
Things you need to know!
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Male 2,033
See, this is why my countries sport only has one name. So the rest of you don`t get confused and start bickering like seven year olds. ;)
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Male 544
It`s beyond me why people get upset about stuff like this so much.

Nobody`s complained that we don`t use the metric system. Nobody`s complained that we call them "french fries," instead of "chips."

C`mon, guys! Complain! We`re disrespecting the scientific community and burger joints everywhere!
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Male 47
I`m aussie, I`ve always called it soccer or football without caring the difference. But we have rugby, and you had gridiron, as I understood it. Since I moved to the states (and yes, I am still baffled as to why you guys decided to swap sides of the road to drive on, I`ll look up the origins of that sometime) I`ve been constantly confused by you guys using the term `football` for your version of rugby.
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Male 1,765
It doesn`t piss me off they call football soccer, but it does piss me off they call handegg football.
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Male 2,422
How about this: we`ll start calling it football when you start driving on the right side of the road.
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Male 544
Yeah, baseball is DEFINITELY not rounders. And it definitely wasn`t invented by a European.

America`s "national pastime," if you can still call it that seeing as how popular American football is, is definitely American.
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2,767
`It was born football, it has been called football and it is called football by all the major countries that play it.`

all but one :)
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Male 594
eh, beter`s just angry cause his girlfriend dont shave..
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Male 106
@beternal
I think the point is that the people who invented the current rules that are used called it soccer as well as football, they weren`t just a "few brits". Also, a quick wikipedia search told me that rounders and baseball are actually now believed to be regional variants evolved from a different game whose name nobody uses now.
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Male 2,586
So it was ORIGINALLY called football as we all knew... a few brits decided to give it another name too... big deal!

It was born football, it has been called football and it is called football by all the major countries that play it.

While we`re on that topic... the American national passtime - BASEBALL - or to those of us that invented it... `rounders` - a girls game

In your face, Yanks and the rest of the `It`s baseball, not rounders` world!!
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Male 29
HA!
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Female 3,574
bwa hahaa
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Female 4,447
Link: The Origin Of The Name Soccer: Now You Know [Rate Link] - In your face, Brits and the rest of the `It`s football, not soccer` world!!
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