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Date: 07/20/10 02:01 PM

69 Responses to Are You Glad For Modern Medicine? [Pic]

  1. Profile photo of LittleMissQT
    LittleMissQT Female 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    Link: Are You Glad For Modern Medicine? - Oh you know this treatment sucks!
  2. Profile photo of lowend85
    lowend85 Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 2:15 pm
    That`s called cupping (for obvious reasons). It looks weird, and leaves a hella huge hicky but it works to loosen adhesions in muscles.
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    util Male 18-29
    136 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 2:16 pm
    I always thought the pain powered lightbulbs gave you the best value for you buck, myself.
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    K0ttin_K0b Female 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 2:17 pm
    HAH! Sucks! xD
  5. Profile photo of Mikeado
    Mikeado Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 2:17 pm
    Now now, let`s not generalise the entirety of modern medicine around one iffy treatment.
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
    886 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 2:17 pm
    wtf?
  7. Profile photo of Fatninja01
    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 2:21 pm
    Thats just dumb!
  8. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 20, 2010 at 2:23 pm
    Pussy couldn`t keep the 8th one on.
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    ILikeApples Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 2:24 pm
    sneaky pun
  10. Profile photo of Squeakers
    Squeakers Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 2:27 pm
    ...not modern...
  11. Profile photo of xxPinkxx
    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 2:36 pm
    ugh
  12. Profile photo of IssaTheFiend
    IssaTheFiend Female 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 2:49 pm
    That looks mighty painful and they aren`t even lighting up.
  13. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2010 at 2:49 pm
    it works to loosen adhesions in muscles.

    Can you explain what you think that medical condition is?

    May as well eat sugared fish to balance your humours. That sort of idea is just as old, so by the usual "reasoning" it should be just as "effective" (i.e. not at all).
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    Now now, let`s not generalise the entirety of modern medicine around one iffy treatment.

    ...not modern...

    I think the point is that we should be glad of modern medicine because without it we`d be stuck with ineffective stuff like this (and many of us would die earlier as a result).
  15. Profile photo of screwzlooose
    screwzlooose Male 30-39
    385 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    before talking to much trash, look at the average lifespan in china, and japan.

    oh, and who here has had allergy shots? i`d take the above treatment over an allergy test, much less the shots.
  16. Profile photo of duffytoler
    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2010 at 3:32 pm
    Poor kid. Damned idiot snake oil hoodoo man pretending to be a doctor.
  17. Profile photo of SebastianLam
    SebastianLam Male 13-17
    730 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 3:34 pm
    Damn body modders. Gettin` the children now too.. Haha ;)
  18. Profile photo of Smokeylove11
    Smokeylove11 Female 13-17
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    July 20, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    Probably works better though. :)
  19. Profile photo of x_lvlalfoy_x
    x_lvlalfoy_x Female 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    This works amazing though. Once you get past the shock of it.. it really helps your pain. xD
  20. Profile photo of JonnyRobbie
    JonnyRobbie Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 4:01 pm
    that reminds me something: The day the Microsoft presents something that doesn`t suck will be the day they make a vacuum cleaner.
  21. Profile photo of Kingreggie
    Kingreggie Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 4:04 pm
    what is he doing?
  22. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 20, 2010 at 4:09 pm
    before talking to much trash, look at the average lifespan in china, and japan.


    Excellent for Japan, mediocre for China. Diet is probably the biggest factor in Japan.

    Are you seriously suggesting that sucking hard in order to bruise flesh is an effective medical treatment?
  23. Profile photo of iiiihatejmac
    iiiihatejmac Female 18-29
    477 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 4:20 pm
    i hear jessica simpson does this...
  24. Profile photo of jakeamadude
    jakeamadude Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 4:28 pm
    Modern because light bulbs plugged into spine = cyborg
  25. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    July 20, 2010 at 4:58 pm
    That crap does nothing but give you a bruise.
  26. Profile photo of Kanashto
    Kanashto Male 18-29
    499 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    some people here don`t know something
  27. Profile photo of Kaagan
    Kaagan Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 6:34 pm
    he`s a triceratops
  28. Profile photo of 42GandS
    42GandS Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 7:14 pm
    It stretches the fascia, the connective tissue that surrounds everything in the body.
  29. Profile photo of moefreak
    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 7:28 pm
    This does nothing that a good placebo won`t do.
  30. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    32785 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 7:43 pm
    vv Kaagan really means:



    Stegosaurus
  31. Profile photo of bloostarfish
    bloostarfish Female 18-29
    326 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 8:48 pm
    It`s called the Ventosa Cupping Massage.
  32. Profile photo of Chukwa
    Chukwa Male 13-17
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    July 20, 2010 at 8:51 pm
    @Kanashto. Agreed.
  33. Profile photo of OmgZelda
    OmgZelda Female 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 8:52 pm
    Supposedly cupping is very therapeutic. I`d like to try it after I have my baby.
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    ryannn24 Male 18-29
    83 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 9:29 pm
    ah yes.. the infamous hickey-maker kit.
  35. Profile photo of GuardinGnome
    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
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    July 20, 2010 at 9:36 pm
    That looks like it hurts.
  36. Profile photo of Jackdabomb
    Jackdabomb Male 13-17
    105 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 10:27 pm
    I believe that`s just how asians fall asleep...
  37. Profile photo of limphotdog
    limphotdog Female 18-29
    673 posts
    July 20, 2010 at 11:18 pm
    ...It worked fine in The Karate Kid.
  38. Profile photo of aseirinn
    aseirinn Male 70 & Over
    877 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 12:49 am
    the auld `bollock jars`...best corporal punishment for kids...
  39. Profile photo of dioxin
    dioxin Male 18-29
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    July 21, 2010 at 1:16 am
    actually, this is a part of modern medicine...even though its old its still practiced today.
    Fire Cupping Wiki
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    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 1:39 am
    "I think the point is that we should be glad of modern medicine because without it we`d be stuck with ineffective stuff like this (and many of us would die earlier as a result)."

    @Angilion- How did you come to the conclusion that cupping is ineffective when this treatment has been used by the Chinese for over 3500 years?
    Obviously if it didn`t work, no-one would use it.

    Just because you have a lack of understanding for alternative medicine doesn`t mean it automatically becomes "ineffective"
  41. Profile photo of Ultimated
    Ultimated Male 13-17
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    July 21, 2010 at 2:07 am
    ...I`m not sure I quite understand wtf is going on here.
  42. Profile photo of Squeakers
    Squeakers Male 18-29
    21 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 2:39 am
    sam1002

    Provide the clinical studies to back up your case because "everyone else is doing it" isnt a valid reason to support anything.
  43. Profile photo of Kiwigirl2
    Kiwigirl2 Female 30-39
    1048 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 3:21 am
    What`s next - leeches and "balancing the humours" with bleeding?
  44. Profile photo of Sam1002
    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 4:02 am
    Squeakers, I didn`t conclude that this works because "everyone else is doing it" My conclusion arises based on the length of time this practice has been going on for, and the fact that it`s still used today. Cupping has been used for thousands of years for various types of ailments, and practitioners certainly wouldn`t use it on their patients if it didn`t give positive results.

    I don`t automatically disbelieve something just because there haven`t been enough clinical studies to "prove" that it works. I`m sure that after a thousand or so years there`s plenty of Anecdotal evidence to support the fact that cupping works.

  45. Profile photo of IQover
    IQover Male 13-17
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    July 21, 2010 at 4:06 am
    I think he`s about to poo himself
  46. Profile photo of Sam1002
    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 4:10 am
    Actually kiwigirl you`ll find that leeches are used in modern medicine today, with scientific research concluding that leeches are useful in surgery. They are often used in plastic and reconstructive surgery, due to a natural anticoagulant they secrete which fights blood clots and restores proper blood flow to inflamed parts of the body.
  47. Profile photo of AntiCool88
    AntiCool88 Female 18-29
    430 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 4:35 am
    This treatment is not modern it`s used from thousend of years...
  48. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 4:56 am
    @Sam1002

    Lots of things have been going for thousands of years. Religion, for example.

    If lots of people do something stupid for a long time, it`s not any less stupid.

    Anecdotal evidence is not evidence at all.
  49. Profile photo of ifeelfine
    ifeelfine Female 18-29
    149 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 5:06 am
    *reads all the comments*


    Sigh.
  50. Profile photo of jenniferm1
    jenniferm1 Male 40-49
    39 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 5:38 am
    Cupping is fabulous!
  51. Profile photo of meepmaker
    meepmaker Male 30-39
    6694 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 7:13 am
    I guess you would feel better when those things were finally off. Whew. That smarts.
  52. Profile photo of betardfooser
    betardfooser Male 30-39
    558 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 8:02 am
    @ anticool, that`s the point, they are saying "this treatment looks like it sucks, aren`t you glad we have more modern practices now?" myself, I think it`s just fine. either way, not exactly lulz...
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    SumRandom1 Male 18-29
    794 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 8:25 am
    this does not hurt at all, it actually feels really nice, and then when you take it off it makes a *Pop* sound and leaves you with big black and blues like you were attacked by a giant octopus
  54. Profile photo of DickenMcHunt
    DickenMcHunt Male 18-29
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    July 21, 2010 at 9:14 am
    SumRandom1 is right. It doesn`t really hurt and the poo that it pulls out is... weird.
  55. Profile photo of raiin
    raiin Female 18-29
    293 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 9:27 am
    LOL @ the old fashiond pu$$y sucker, or is it the old fashioned peenor pump?
  56. Profile photo of Seamaster
    Seamaster Male 18-29
    37 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 10:04 am
    I don`t know what people are talking about when they say that it feels good o.O Those glass cups are held over an open flame before being applied, so they do burn you...
  57. Profile photo of BunnyNaku
    BunnyNaku Female 18-29
    5224 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 10:23 am
    [email protected] pump XD
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    robotobunneh Female 18-29
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    July 21, 2010 at 11:25 am
    My boyfriend does this whenever he gets a cold. He calls them "giant nipples" and insists that they do wonders XD
  59. Profile photo of Crucible
    Crucible Male 18-29
    1815 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 12:25 pm
    Modern medicine?
    This bogus treatment has been around forever
  60. Profile photo of boredfjord
    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    July 21, 2010 at 1:23 pm
    This is new age alternative bullcrap. Modern medicine is proven to be more effective than a placebo. This isn`t.
  61. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    July 21, 2010 at 5:10 pm
    Actually kiwigirl you`ll find that leeches are used in modern medicine today, with scientific research concluding that leeches are useful in surgery. They are often used in plastic and reconstructive surgery, due to a natural anticoagulant they secrete which fights blood clots and restores proper blood flow to inflamed parts of the body.

    Which in no way validates the ancient idea that bloodletting is an effective form of treatment. That`s why they used leeches in the past - to suck out the "excess" blood and thereby reduce the sanguine humour.

    The idea of balancing humours is also ancient. People also believed it worked. There was also no evidence that it worked for anything. So it`s just like this.
  62. Profile photo of qaz
    qaz Female 13-17
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    July 22, 2010 at 12:41 am
    Hmn, well this was a "shock!"
  63. Profile photo of Sam1002
    Sam1002 Male 30-39
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    July 22, 2010 at 3:45 am
    ...cont

    4. I look for any scientific study I can about cupping

    study 1
    Study 2

    So, With this information and my own questioning, I can come to my own rational conclusion on why I believe cupping does in fact works
  64. Profile photo of Sam1002
    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    July 22, 2010 at 3:45 am
    @Angilion

    Yes, you`re right. However cupping is still widely used today, whereas bloodletting is not

    My point is, I cannot automatically believe or disbelieve something just because I don`t understand how it works, I am open minded, so I research it instead. As there is a limited amount of scientific study for cupping, I can only go on whatever data and information I can find:

    1. The length of time cupping has been practised, over 3500 years

    2. I consider the fact it`s still used today, even though modern medicine is available for the same ailments

    3. I read peoples anecdotal evidence to give me feedback on how the treatment effected them

    cont...
  65. Profile photo of KellsBells
    KellsBells Female 30-39
    316 posts
    July 22, 2010 at 5:53 am
    "This is new age alternative bullcrap. Modern medicine is proven to be more effective than a placebo. This isn`t."

    Well, after several years and several thousands of dollars on modern medicine (Johns Hopkins Neurology, MRI`s, CAT Scans, designer medicines, standard medicines, sleep studies, etc.), modern medicine didn`t do a thing for my migraines. In fact, thanks to all the meds they had me on, I was sicker than before and almost lost my job.

    ONE acupuncture treatment and my migraines went from unbearable (stuck in a dark room, in severe pain, dizzy and vomitting) to manageable (with sunglasses on and the fluorescent lights off, I could go to work). After two weeks of treatments the frequency went from 3-4 times per week to once a month. After a couple years of "tune-up" treatments (about one every 6 months), I am down to about 6 manageable migraines a year. Keep in mind I started out with 3-4 horrible ones per week.

    In my case: Mo
  66. Profile photo of KellsBells
    KellsBells Female 30-39
    316 posts
    July 22, 2010 at 5:54 am
    In my case: Modern Medicine = EPIC FAIL.
  67. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    July 22, 2010 at 4:01 pm
    So, With this information and my own questioning, I can come to my own rational conclusion on why I believe cupping does in fact works

    A study of 15 people who believed that cupping would reduce their pain, a study that wasn`t even single-blind let alone double-blind, a study without a control group...that doesn`t constitute compelling evidence in my mind.

    Incidentally, the study you linked to *was* using blood-letting.

    Cupping has been used for thousands of years for various types of ailments, and practitioners certainly wouldn`t use it on their patients if it didn`t give positive results.

    That`s a ridiculous statement. Of course they would if they had faith in it or for profit, or both. By your argument, anything that anyone says is effective is effective. They certainly wouldn`t use it on anyone if it wasn`t, right? All the ads on the net are right, etc.
  68. Profile photo of Sam1002
    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    July 23, 2010 at 12:49 am
    @Angilion

    "that doesn`t constitute compelling evidence in my mind."

    so its just not rigorous enough for you?

    "That`s a ridiculous statement."

    why? I refer to practitioners of Chinese medicine who use a broad range of healing techniques, including cupping. They diagnose the patient, and if they feel cupping is beneficial for the treatment they will suggest it to them. (which is why I refer to the fact they wouldn`t use it if it didn`t work)

    What I would like to know Angillon, is why don`t you believe cupping works? is it because you don`t believe anything or anyone unless there has been a controlled and rigorous scientific test to prove it. Are all the positive testimonials about cupping false? Did KellsBells fabricate her story below about acupuncture?
  69. Profile photo of G0GGL3S
    G0GGL3S Male 13-17
    3 posts
    August 21, 2010 at 5:58 pm
    why... would someone do this?

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