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Date: 06/20/10 07:35 AM

109 Responses to The Baffling Pinocchio Paradox [Pic]

  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:29 am
    Link: The Baffling Pinocchio Paradox - Has anyone else ever caught this massive hole in Pinocchio storyline?
  2. Profile photo of Jowsh
    Jowsh Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:41 am
    um...
  3. Profile photo of spartanman
    spartanman Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:42 am
    Simply fixed paradox. At the point that he says "now" his nose did not grow because his nose grows after he tells a lie, so his nose will simply grow because he told a lie.
  4. Profile photo of S4r4h_Pwn4g3
    S4r4h_Pwn4g3 Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:47 am
    My brain just exploded!! I never thought about that before.
  5. Profile photo of vicious_liar
    vicious_liar Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:47 am
    Naaaaah, never heard this one before...

    ....
  6. Profile photo of TopperHey
    TopperHey Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:54 am
    poof!
  7. Profile photo of patchouly
    patchouly Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:54 am
    It`s not a lie if he honestly thought it would grow...
  8. Profile photo of MG6
    MG6 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:56 am
    It was never explicitly said his nose ONLY grows when he lies
  9. Profile photo of Farsidedown
    Farsidedown Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:03 am
    but "will" is very loose and allows for an infinite amount into the future. Without defining at some point, Pinocchio is essentially saying he will lie eventually, and his nose will grow.
  10. Profile photo of Mainframe
    Mainframe Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:05 am
    The warning to Pinocchio was this his nose would grow if he lied. I don`t recall him being given the assurance that his nose would NOT grow if he told the truth. Maybe the warning "If you lie your nose will grow" is part of a superset of warningings including the warning "Your nose will grow if you attempt to generate a paradox"
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    flagler Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:09 am
    I now feel bad for the little fella. This clearly shows that he had a freakish nose-growing disorder. To hide it, he had to cover it up with the whole "it grows when I lie" lie.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:12 am
    damn, that sh*ts just baffling.
  13. Profile photo of Max_Normal
    Max_Normal Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:17 am
    His nose may be repeatedly growing and shrinking at equilibrium at a frequency too rapid for the human eye, thus appearing to be static. This could be assayed using a strobe with adjustable frequency, or by measuring his nose (it should be slightly longer than when at ground state i.e. in complete absence of lie).

    Experimental science, the solution to everything.
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    aseirinn Male 70 & Over
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:30 am
    i feel cheated...
  15. Profile photo of EdiMesic
    EdiMesic Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:31 am
    ...

    *MIND EXPLOSION*
  16. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:32 am
    he is not lieing.

    he is sincerely incorrect.

    Hence no paradox
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    FIRST_poster Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:35 am
    this sentence is a lie
  18. Profile photo of akinis
    akinis Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:45 am
    Just a different twist on the liar paradox of "This Sentence is false"
  19. Profile photo of saber15
    saber15 Female 70 & Over
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:56 am
    But it did not start to grow at the moment he said "now". At this point, you are just measuring in smaller units of time. A moment later than when he would say "now" would not be the "now" that he said it would start growing at. Hence, his nose would begin to grow, as it did not grow that very moment he said it would. He had lied.

    Or we could all just shut up and enjoy the film.
  20. Profile photo of wko
    wko Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:04 am
    those were the last few words of pinocchio before he asploded
  21. Profile photo of lemmingboy15
    lemmingboy15 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:31 am
    well... my head a splode...
  22. Profile photo of Dextrine
    Dextrine Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:49 am
    ahahah, i read this the other day in a bathroom stall!!
  23. Profile photo of Spocom
    Spocom Female 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:51 am
    AAAARGH *SPPLAT*
  24. Profile photo of Rick_S
    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:52 am
    From Star Trek:

    Kirk: Everything Harry tells you is a lie. Remember that. Everything Harry tells you is a lie.

    Harry Mudd: Now listen to this carefully, Norman, I am lying.

    Norman: You say you are lying, but if everything you say is a lie, than you are telling the truth.

    Smoke starts to come out of Normans head has he goes on babbling about lying and telling the truth, until he just ceases to function.


  25. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:53 am
    HE`s predicting the future, not making a factual error, so it`s not a `lie` as much as a mistake.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:55 am
    NO PINOCCHIO! DON`T PLAY WITH POWER BEYOND YOUR MORTAL COMPREHENSION! D:
  27. Profile photo of Thesphinx
    Thesphinx Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:58 am
    What if he thinks he`s telling the truth but really he`s wrong? Then would the nose still grow?
  28. Profile photo of pdjr
    pdjr Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:09 am
    he`s not lying if he believe`s it, he`s just got it wrong
  29. Profile photo of FlameOfUdun
    FlameOfUdun Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:15 am
    "HE`s predicting the future, not making a factual error, so it`s not a `lie` as much as a mistake."

    Aye, he would have to say "My nose is now growing."
  30. Profile photo of Thesphinx
    Thesphinx Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:20 am
    Whenever this happens, Captain Falcon spawns out of thin air, gives him a falcon punch to the face, and disappears.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:22 am
    Did anyone notice the plot hole involving a wooden child becoming a real boy? THATS IMPOSSIBLE!
  32. Profile photo of Adi_Noor
    Adi_Noor Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:24 am
    That is confusing....
  33. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:44 am
    It is a lot simpler to create this paradox by saying "I am lying."
  34. Profile photo of oxyl
    oxyl Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:53 am
    kill it with fire!
  35. Profile photo of crimsonattck
    crimsonattck Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:54 am
    This isn`t part of the storyline.
  36. Profile photo of crucifyed4us
    crucifyed4us Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:59 am
    It would, in fact, reverse the time matrix around the entire Walt Disney Spectrum; or WDSpec for the null-physics buffs. Long story short, and not using a lot of complicated lingo: no more Jews.
  37. Profile photo of ghoststop
    ghoststop Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 11:07 am
    It`s not a paradox because he is stating something that is going to happen, and he believes it will happen. Therefore it`s not lying and there`s no paradox.
  38. Profile photo of IkeRay
    IkeRay Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 11:33 am
    Lando, how so? if he says, "I am lying", he is telling the truth and therefore his nose won`t grow. just like if he said "I`m telling the truth" and its a lie, his nose will grow

    as for the picture, predictions =/= lying. thats like saying that big bang theory is a lie when it just a prediction of how the universe was formed

    tldr; a prediction is just an unproven assumption/guess
  39. Profile photo of ShadowMoses
    ShadowMoses Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 11:57 am
    ghoststop has it right.
  40. Profile photo of Shahar102
    Shahar102 Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 12:01 pm
    ghoststop
    orly? you`re lame.
    all of you are lame.
    oxyl, you`re right.
    kill it with fire guys o.o
  41. Profile photo of Fatninja01
    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 1:45 pm
    what!!!!!!
  42. Profile photo of 0zzyFan
    0zzyFan Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 1:55 pm
    I think this is my upload? :D
  43. Profile photo of EricWRN
    EricWRN Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 2:01 pm
    mind: blown
  44. Profile photo of Skim
    Skim Female 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 2:35 pm
    And then he explodes.
  45. Profile photo of katluver
    katluver Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 2:37 pm
    I think pinochio would have to burst into flames in order for this paradox to be solved, because, then Pinochio would be no more, and he would not have told the lie/truth in the first place. or else all of reality will be ripped into millions of pieces which would be fun too!
  46. Profile photo of skullgrin
    skullgrin Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 2:37 pm
    theres no rule saying his nose cant grow when telling the truth, just that it WILL grow when telling a lie, so therefore there is no paradox, his nose would grow
  47. Profile photo of jamesrs
    jamesrs Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 2:40 pm
    :0 that makes me rethink my existance
  48. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2010 at 3:11 pm
    He turned into a `Real` boy at the end of the movie so it`s a moot point.
  49. Profile photo of ThatWasFunny
    ThatWasFunny Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 3:34 pm
    Reading about how some people try to explain this paradox on random sites is the best part about it.
    I read one explaining how he`s omnipotent.
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    xXamwxxXx Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 3:42 pm
    what skullgrin said
  51. Profile photo of Uniform
    Uniform Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 3:48 pm
    THAT JUST BLEW MY dratING MIND
  52. Profile photo of Tr4shman
    Tr4shman Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 4:36 pm
    Great post !its like schrødingers cat. almost same paradox.
  53. Profile photo of jimbobsthebe
    jimbobsthebe Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 4:39 pm
    Epic paradox? Or perhaps proof that the idea of one`s nose growing every time a lie is told is ridiculous?
  54. Profile photo of zombieland
    zombieland Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 4:44 pm
    This sentence is a lie.
  55. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 5:17 pm
    I expect that he would spontaneously combust after saying that.
  56. Profile photo of wallywal
    wallywal Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 5:21 pm
    his nose would jus keep growing nd shrinking forever. no wonder all the ladies love this guy
  57. Profile photo of vapor13
    vapor13 Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    Because of the use of the word "now", this would be disqualified from paradox status. The word "now" could imply "this instant". Pinnochio`s nose did not grow the instant he told a lie or while he was telling the lie. There was a delay (yes I know its ridiculous to talk about Pinnochio in such a literal sense).

    Now if he had said "Because of this statement, my nose will grow", a paradox it would make.
  58. Profile photo of drpotato
    drpotato Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 5:31 pm
    @jimbobsthebe it`s an epic paradox forrealzz! xD
  59. Profile photo of nobody404
    nobody404 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 5:34 pm
    @Tr4shman

    But... Shrodinger`s cat isn`t about paradoxes...
  60. Profile photo of nobody404
    nobody404 Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 5:34 pm
    Also, being wrong isn`t the same as lying.
  61. Profile photo of idiotfilter
    idiotfilter Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 5:56 pm
    and....my mind is blown
  62. Profile photo of Legion5
    Legion5 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 6:24 pm
    It`s improper English, you can`t say "my nose will grow now" will is after now.
  63. Profile photo of Piepig
    Piepig Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 6:30 pm
    Woooah...
  64. Profile photo of MetalLinx
    MetalLinx Female 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 6:57 pm
    *explodes*
  65. Profile photo of fudgeechidna
    fudgeechidna Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:47 pm
    @Legion5: "my nose grow now will" makes even less sense perhaps "My nose will now grow" instead.

    Besides that because lying is tied to intent the paradox is solvable as if he says his nose will grow with the intent that it will not then it will else if he believes his nose will grow it will not.

    hope that makes sense....
  66. Profile photo of Boadicea
    Boadicea Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:47 pm
    "you can`t say "my nose will grow now" will is after now."

    Yeah but in that sentence, "now" is after "will", so it works itself out.
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    1qwertyuiop Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 7:51 pm
    Can only grow if he knows he is lieing. He doesn`t know he is lieing/will lie so it doesn`t grow... Anyone already explained it?
  68. Profile photo of ingrateful
    ingrateful Male 13-17
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:04 pm
    Just like dividing by zero
  69. Profile photo of iplaymusic
    iplaymusic Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    Mind. Blown.
  70. Profile photo of Gleeballs
    Gleeballs Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:23 pm
    this suit is black not
  71. Profile photo of jamie76
    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2010 at 8:28 pm
    there is no spoon...
  72. Profile photo of S1gma
    S1gma Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:48 pm
    Has he ever been far even as decided to use even go want to do more like?
  73. Profile photo of FeistyAni
    FeistyAni Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:49 pm
    LOLs epic jedi mindf*ck
  74. Profile photo of B3N0C1D3
    B3N0C1D3 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 9:55 pm
    Life is paradoxically coincidental to the ironical tyranny applicable to the unparalleled definition of reverse entropy.
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    gatorade777 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:05 pm
    what a dull day/week on iab...
  76. Profile photo of dude21862004
    dude21862004 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:41 pm
    not really, he said it and it was a lie, so his nose will grow and then it becomes true so it will shrink back down. truths and lies are not a constant, they can change easily.
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    DarkFerret Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 10:47 pm
    MINDF*CK!!!!
  78. Profile photo of AlANeptune
    AlANeptune Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 11:35 pm
    Failure! Failure! Does... not... compuuuuuuutE!*PHHHHEEEWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!^
  79. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2010 at 11:51 pm
    Said like a true Ninja B3N0C1D3: Hopelessly incomprehensible and residing for the most part in fantasy.

    BTW - this would be a potential pitfall in PREMISE, not storyline..
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    get2chopper Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 12:01 am
    I`m diggin` his bow tie
  81. Profile photo of jib
    jib Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 12:06 am
    true...but did he even say that in the book?
  82. Profile photo of jamesuyt
    jamesuyt Male 13-17
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    June 21, 2010 at 12:18 am
    If Pinocchio says that,



    he explodes.
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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 12:25 am
    Well...we have firewood now.
  84. Profile photo of incubus_inc
    incubus_inc Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 12:36 am
    I was told that when I was a kid and have been sharing it ever since actually. I think it`s pretty funny.
  85. Profile photo of CallofKtulu
    CallofKtulu Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 12:50 am
    His nose only technically grows under stress, so if he did it calmly enough... It`d be pretty hard keeping him calm, though, knowing that even a hint of worry might rip open a black hole.
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    NessieBabii Female 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 2:44 am
    it looks as if he has something growing out his pants
  87. Profile photo of Skeezer1991
    Skeezer1991 Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 3:01 am
    His nose will do whatever the animators want it to do...
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    Skeezer1991 Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 3:02 am
    "not really, he said it and it was a lie, so his nose will grow and then it becomes true so it will shrink back down. truths and lies are not a constant, they can change easily."

    hahahaha there ya go.
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    SamVimes Male 30-39
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    June 21, 2010 at 4:10 am
    it looks as if he has something growing out his pants

    That reminds me of a couple of jokes my father told me as a child. For brevity`s sake, I will only give the punchlines.

    1. Tell the truth! Tell a lie! Tell the truth! Tell a lie.

    2. Who needs girls? I`ve got sandpaper.
  90. Profile photo of duffytoler
    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    June 21, 2010 at 7:09 am
    It`s called "Epimenides paradox", not the goddamn Pinocchio paradox.
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    WHOISIT12345 Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 7:12 am
    O___0
  92. Profile photo of Carliiito
    Carliiito Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 7:39 am
    @duffytoler
    These "smart" Americans needs this hard paradox to be explained in the same way we explain it for elementary school children here in Sweden.
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    howlingwolf Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 8:42 am
    "It`s called "Epimenides paradox", not the goddamn Pinocchio paradox."

    But there`s alliteration with this one...
  94. Profile photo of Jackoat135
    Jackoat135 Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 10:34 am
    Nothing about the statement, "My nose will grow," says it won`t grow when he tells the truth. "If A then B" doesn`t necessarily mean "If not A then not B" A common logical fallacy.
  95. Profile photo of ShakeNBake
    ShakeNBake Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 11:31 am
    carliiito, you`re a effin douchebag to think all americans are dumb and that we need poo to be dumbed down not everyone is smart and euro trash people need poo to be dumb down aswell so dont start talking about americans when europeans aren`t that great themselves douche
  96. Profile photo of screwzlooose
    screwzlooose Male 30-39
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    June 21, 2010 at 11:59 am
    @carliiito yeah, cause sweden is soooooooooo great.

    yaWN wait.... who? sweden? dont yall make chocolate... no... army knives....no....volvos? yall make volvo`s right? i mean, i just dont care enough to know anything about... wait- what country again?? sweden? where the hell is sweden, anyway? in the alps or something? lol sweden.

    tell me, how`s it feel to have someone talk down to you? wait, i dont care how someone from sweden feels!
  97. Profile photo of OrangeCrow
    OrangeCrow Female 18-29
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    June 21, 2010 at 5:58 pm
    "hese "smart" Americans needs this hard paradox to be explained in the same way we explain it for elementary school children here in Sweden."

    Apparently I`ve learned that trolls can come from Sweden as well...
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    brisbyp Male 40-49
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    June 21, 2010 at 9:43 pm
    He`s making a prediction, not a statement. So, if hes right, hes just lucky, if hes wrong he`s not lying, he`s just wrong.

    So, THERE IS NO PARADOX.
  99. Profile photo of Kanama88
    Kanama88 Male 18-29
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    June 22, 2010 at 3:49 am
    For some reason I see his nose coming to life and beating the crap out of the blue fairy
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    ThisIsMe2 Female 18-29
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    June 22, 2010 at 6:11 am
    He`s made a statement he believes is true. His nose will grow only when he is knowingly telling a lie. All that will be proven is *insert internet brawl inducing statement here*.
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    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
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    June 22, 2010 at 9:41 am
    Brainfart.
  102. Profile photo of unbanned
    unbanned Male 13-17
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    June 22, 2010 at 7:13 pm
    hey what does idk mean?
  103. Profile photo of meepmaker
    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    June 23, 2010 at 7:02 am
    I bet Pinocchio`s girlfriend makes him lie all the time. Lie to me ! Lie to me !
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    fishgul69 Female 18-29
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    June 23, 2010 at 12:05 pm
    lmao
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    itsmyisliand Male 13-17
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    June 27, 2010 at 1:05 am
    "somedays you just cant get rid of a bomb"
  106. Profile photo of BunnyNaku
    BunnyNaku Female 18-29
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    August 6, 2010 at 3:45 am
    lol
  107. Profile photo of mluther
    mluther Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2010 at 5:34 pm
    you forgot the other rule. Paradoxs make his nose catch on fire.
  108. Profile photo of Revolutioniz
    Revolutioniz Male 18-29
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    December 2, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    Saying "my nose will grow" is not a lie, he has no knowledge of the future whether his nose grows or not, so it`s an assumption based on him knowing that he will eventually lie in life causing his nose to grow. NOT a paradox.

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