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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
    18927 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:15 am
    Link: Scariest Book Ever Written? - Or is this a win-win for everyone? Could go either way, right?
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    tiffbafb Female 18-29
    40 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:19 am
    it wouldnt be near as bad if they had someone a bit younger on the cover
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    deltaumarcus Male 18-29
    1958 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:19 am
    Win for the teenage boy. Lose for the lady that goes to court.
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    fabarati Male 18-29
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    June 3, 2010 at 10:22 am
    How hard is it to write that book? Page one: tell him you`ll have sex with him. There is no page two.
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    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:22 am
    I`m assuming that it`s aimed at teenage girls, and thus not very scary. The girl on the cover only looks about 40 due to the 70s make up.
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    June 3, 2010 at 10:22 am
    The funny thing is that the content of the book is just 3 words: Show your tits.
  7. Profile photo of fabarati
    fabarati Male 18-29
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    June 3, 2010 at 10:26 am
    *Disclaimer* my comment was about older women getting teenage boys, not about girls even remotely the same age.
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    Ozwolo Male 18-29
    29 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:31 am
    Does not compute
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    wateva_x Female 13-17
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    June 3, 2010 at 10:44 am
    Thats simple. make him a sandwich, don`t call him when theres a football match on and get on your knees and blow. You don`t need a book for it.
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    DesertDustX Male 18-29
    427 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:44 am
    I bet the book is much darker than that... -step one, as you raise a cloth to his face, ask him, "does this cloth smell like chloroform to you?" -step two, head to the nearest hardware store and buy rope.
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    sinisterspid Female 18-29
    121 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:45 am
    ._.
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    DesertDustX Male 18-29
    427 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:46 am
    lol @ wateva
  13. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:51 am
    Pedophilia is OK when MILFs do it? Well in the 70`s I guess...
    VV lolz @fabarati!
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    pmarren Male 40-49
    4575 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:55 am
    Do chicks need a book for EVERYTHING? Jesus, if the roles were reversed there would be no need for such a book... We`d all know what the hell to do with a teenage chick once we got her; tell her to shut-up, make me a sandwich, and iron my shirt.
  15. Profile photo of Boadicea
    Boadicea Female 18-29
    1677 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:55 am
    "relations" with teenagers wouldn`t really qualify as paedophilia since that`s about being gross about pre-adolescents. Regardless of age, puberty kind of means you`re adult-like, and probably too "ripe" for a real paedophile.

    DesertDustX: I think it`d be more practical to flip those steps around lol.
  16. Profile photo of DesertDustX
    DesertDustX Male 18-29
    427 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 11:00 am
    Broadicea, that is very true, sadly i didn`t proofread lmao
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
    6694 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 11:03 am
    I think Wateva x nailed it for men of all ages.
  18. Profile photo of BigPappa
    BigPappa Male 40-49
    163 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 11:06 am
    $.95 what a bargain!!
  19. Profile photo of IssaTheFiend
    IssaTheFiend Female 18-29
    2353 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 11:13 am
    Pointless book but the title is pretty damn funny.
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    edana42 Female 50-59
    2509 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 11:17 am
    OMG you can get it on Amazon for $151.65


  21. Profile photo of tomo511
    tomo511 Male 18-29
    162 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 11:19 am
    change `boy` to `girl` and there`d be an outcry
  22. Profile photo of moefreak
    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 11:22 am
    Pmarren, I think you might find the "how to get a girl" part helpful. Or are they already flocking to your sexist wit?
  23. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36834 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 11:47 am
    You don`t need a whole book. I`ll tell you what it says inside....

    "How to get a teenage boy"
    Have tits!
    The end.
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    Barbarossa69 Male 18-29
    220 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 12:03 pm
    @5Cats
    Teenage != pedophilia -_-
  25. Profile photo of unlk
    unlk Male 18-29
    233 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 12:07 pm
    do you really need a book for that ?!
  26. Profile photo of mcfudge
    mcfudge Male 18-29
    537 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 12:11 pm
    @Barbarossa69

    Prepubescent = pedophilia

    Not supporting it... just correcting the person.
  27. Profile photo of Vindictive
    Vindictive Female 18-29
    1077 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 12:20 pm
    uh. hey tards, teenagers do not make pedophilia. pedophilia is the attraction to someone who is pre-pubescent. hebephilia (correct me if my spelling is wrong) expresses sexual interest in teens.
  28. Profile photo of belunan
    belunan Male 30-39
    1507 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 12:23 pm
    Gerry1of1 wins the thread.
  29. Profile photo of Lukgeezy
    Lukgeezy Male 18-29
    606 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 12:26 pm
    Cougar "rule book".
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    JeffBeau Male 30-39
    180 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 12:37 pm
    Given Cheryl Tieg`s appearance on the cover, this is mid- to late 70`s, right when women were frolicking in their new-found `liberation, going around braless, dividing their time between divorce court and discos. Imagine, fellas, MILFs and cougars with big hair and no bra running amuck, hunting down virile teenage boys! Woohoo!
  31. Profile photo of Fatninja01
    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    Get him to clean his room! is that what the books referring to?
  32. Profile photo of Geogypsy
    Geogypsy Female 18-29
    2546 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    "You`re fifteen and flustered?
    Sixteen and swinging?
    Seventeen and sexy?

    This is your book, your key to the groovy life, your guide to where the boys are and how to get with them. It is the word -- first, last, and straight -- on where it is absolutely at in today`s teen world."

    Correct me if I`m wrong, but I do believe that the book was intended for teen girls.
  33. Profile photo of Concetra
    Concetra Male 18-29
    2050 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 2:20 pm
    "You don`t need a whole book. I`ll tell you what it says inside....

    "How to get a teenage boy"
    Have tits!
    The end."

    And don`t speak. j/k
  34. Profile photo of dooflotchie
    dooflotchie Female 30-39
    336 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 2:34 pm
    OK, I`m gonna order this book, but it better have some damn good recipes for smoked and grilled teen-age boy! They just don`t roast well and I`m not trying that turkey-fryer thing again. Save yourselves the trouble and don`t you try it either. The last time I got a teen-age boy, I plopped him in that hot oil and he flailed about like a speared fish. He knocked that damn fryer over and almost burned my house down!
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    outdoorMINER Female 18-29
    934 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 2:44 pm
    Isn`t saying "teenage" and "boy" contradicting?
  36. Profile photo of Angelmassb
    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    June 3, 2010 at 2:47 pm

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    bram Male 18-29
    577 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    "Isn`t saying "teenage" and "boy" contradicting?"

    NO
  38. Profile photo of dream_damage
    dream_damage Male 18-29
    10 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 2:59 pm
    this have to be rename to twilight for MILF`s . . .
  39. Profile photo of bmh
    bmh Female 18-29
    248 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 3:05 pm
    MUUUURDER
  40. Profile photo of duffytoler
    duffytoler Male 40-49
    5195 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    This was pretty standard stuff back in the 1970`s. Things have changed.
  41. Profile photo of ElMustache
    ElMustache Male 18-29
    1625 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 3:33 pm
    Mrs. Robinson, you`re trying to seduce me!
  42. Profile photo of JNAtheDUDE
    JNAtheDUDE Male 13-17
    203 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 4:09 pm
    @dream_damage: win
  43. Profile photo of SarahColleen
    SarahColleen Female 18-29
    1071 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 4:14 pm
    Whats with the "Finally! 50,000 copy hardcover best seller"? sticker?

    How long did it take them to get the FINALLY comment? haha
  44. Profile photo of RAGEMONSTER
    RAGEMONSTER Male 18-29
    422 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 4:25 pm
    Damn, I wish more women had read this when I was a teenage boy...
  45. Profile photo of atm
    atm Female 13-17
    127 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    cute!
  46. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    Barbarossa, McFudge (and others) if they`re 13-15 they`re still teenagers and it`s still illegal! Luckily!
    I`m sure the auther refers to "legal" teenage boys, but my point is (as tomo511 pointed out) that is SEEMS to be "more OK" for older women to prey on underage men than vice-versa, eh?
    And IMO a pedophile is anyone who molests underage children. IDK if they`re `pre-pubecent` or 15. If it`s illegal, HANDS OFF! (or goto jail for a very long time!)
  47. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 5:11 pm
    @Vindictive My dictionary just says "perversion... sex with children" although I agree that most of them like the VERY young, as opposed to the borderliners...
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    MrPointless Male 18-29
    56 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 5:26 pm
    as a teenage boy myself... awesome!!
  49. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 5:43 pm
    And IMO a pedophile is anyone who molests underage children. IDK if they`re `pre-pubecent` or 15.

    Do you think that someone swaps between being a paedophile and not being a paedophile simply by crossing a border? Your comment says so, but is it what you really meant?

    Do you think there is no difference between sex with someone who is biologically an adult (i.e. past puberty) and sex with someone who is biologically a child (i.e. has not yet started puberty)? Again, your comment says so but is it what you really meant?
  50. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 5:51 pm
    uh. hey tards, teenagers do not make pedophilia. pedophilia is the attraction to someone who is pre-pubescent. hebephilia (correct me if my spelling is wrong) expresses sexual interest in teens.

    Adolescents, if you want to be accurate. It`s about biology and `teen` isn`t about biology. A teen could be a child, an adolescent or an adult. The word `teen` doesn`t really mean much at all. Not biologically, not socially, not legally. In all those aspects, it covers too wide an area to have much meaning. There`s a huge difference between a late developing 13 year old and a mature 19 year old, but they`re both teens.
  51. Profile photo of Inteluhgint
    Inteluhgint Male 18-29
    135 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 6:08 pm
    *Inside the book*

    Step 1- Ask him to f***.
    Step 2- Proceed to f***.
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    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
    3829 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    lol @ inteluhgint.
  53. Profile photo of Ani187
    Ani187 Female 30-39
    4448 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    Well, hello Mrs. Robinson!
  54. Profile photo of necrobitch
    necrobitch Female 18-29
    467 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 6:58 pm
    i have this book at home
    a free gift came with it
    a wooden dildo dating back to 1970
  55. Profile photo of DrHorrible
    DrHorrible Male 18-29
    108 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 8:24 pm
    I want this book *JUST* for the looks on people`s faces as they scan my bookshelves. :D
  56. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 9:02 pm
    Do you think there is no difference between sex with someone who is biologically an adult (i.e. past puberty) and sex with someone who is biologically a child (i.e. has not yet started puberty)?
    Nooooo, I think that LEGALLY if someone is an adult then it`s OK. If someone is LEGALLY a child IT---IS---WRONG.
    I`m shocked at you Angilion! YOU think it`s OK to plug a 13 year-old bleeder?
    In Canada it was legal to bang a 14-year old until recently, thus HERE you were NOT a pedophile for doing so. (with some restrictions, eh?) It makes me sick to think our Liberal (party) politicians thought this was a good idea, and the NDP Party wanted to lower it to 12~!
    So to return to your comment, are YOU talking about legally or morally? I know I am talking about morality and NO it`s either immoral or a-moral to covet sex with a child. The definition of "child" can vary from culture to culture though, am running out of text, please clarify,k?
  57. Profile photo of DarkFerret
    DarkFerret Male 18-29
    2749 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 9:39 pm
    ... yea, this is kinda creepy
  58. Profile photo of util
    util Male 18-29
    136 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 9:51 pm
    [quote">In Canada it was legal to bang a 14-year old until recently, thus HERE you were NOT a pedophile for doing so.[/quote">

    You got it all wrong, 5Cats. As of 1999, "the Criminal Code [did"> not now criminalize consensual sexual activity with or between persons 14 or over, unless it takes place in a relationship of trust or dependency, in which case sexual activity with persons over 14 but under 18 can constitute an offence, notwithstanding their consent.

    tl;dr : 16 year old plowing 15 year old girlfriend OK, 18 year old plowing 15 year old girlfriend BAD
  59. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:10 pm
    Make him mow your lawn and trim your hedge.
  60. Profile photo of GothicQueen
    GothicQueen Male 13-17
    4376 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:44 pm
    I`d buy it.
  61. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:50 pm
    @util after the Conservatives took power, they introduced a bill which raised the legal age of concent to 16. This bill was held up in the Liberal dominated Senate for 6 months. HOW could the age be raise in 1999? You obviously have NO IDEA and therefor are wrong, eh?
    ANyhow I do believe you`re quoting the law which the Liberals REPLACED in 1999 with the "14 is legal" law.
    Double fail.
  62. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 3, 2010 at 10:51 pm
    Part A:
    From this it will be seen that a complete ban on sexual intercourse never did apply to girls over 14.
    Triple fail? Lolz!
  63. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 3, 2010 at 10:58 pm
    PART B: the age of consent for sexual activity has at no time been set higher than 14 in Canada

    Unit the Conservatives raised it? Jeez @util, did you EVEN READ YOUR OWN LINK???
    Stfu & Gtfo eh?
    According to YOUR OWN LINK:
    16 on 12 = legal TWELVE!
    99 on 14 = legal
    Words... escape me!
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    401402403404 Male 18-29
    1 post
    June 3, 2010 at 11:38 pm
    :-X good
  65. Profile photo of fancylady
    fancylady Female 30-39
    864 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 12:19 am
    nice as in South park teacher bangs a boy nice
  66. Profile photo of SonicWolf
    SonicWolf Male 13-17
    89 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 12:56 am
    I`m a teenage boy.. :D
  67. Profile photo of Shahar102
    Shahar102 Female 18-29
    517 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 1:08 am
    @SonicWolf
    Now I just need to figure out how to get ye :D
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    som-tam Male 18-29
    714 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 5:24 am
    why didn`t i know about this book when i was at school, i would of left on my geography teacher`s desk..... female geography teacher i would like to point out.
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    ryski_59 Female 18-29
    245 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 7:53 am
    lol
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 9:14 am
    WTF? Pretty sure any dude who wrote a book "How to get a teenage girl and what do do with her when you get her" would end up winning a lifetime supply of surprise butt-secks in prison.
  71. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 9:17 am
    Oh, wait, looked it up on Amazon.com and it seems that this book is actually written for teenage girls. Not very clear, based on the cover.
  72. Profile photo of stonewar
    stonewar Female 30-39
    169 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 9:21 am
    How is Cheryl Tiegs affiliated with this book? Was it published by Seventeen or Cosmo or something similar?
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
    2229 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 9:26 am
    It should also say `Perfaced-And how to make it all legal`. Because this is as sick as `How to get teenage GIRL & and to do with HER`.

    Plus this must have been a hit with all the the woman teachers and their student lovers getting busted the last few years.
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
    2229 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 9:27 am
    damn, sbeelz beat to it...
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    TokioKoos Female 18-29
    412 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 12:21 pm
    Love the author`s last name: Peck...
  76. Profile photo of Skythe
    Skythe Male 18-29
    965 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 12:37 pm
    All 50,000 just say "Have boobs."
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    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
    2893 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    Uhhhhhhhh. Why is this scary?
  78. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 4, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    am running out of text, please clarify,k?

    OK, I`ll clarify:

    You`re talking crap.

    You explicitly equated having sex with a child so young they haven`t even started school and having sex with someone who is biologically adult.

    That`s babble. It`s quite disturbing babble, too.

    You also made it clear you have no idea what the word `paedophile` means but that won`t stop you using it, and you argued that walking a few yards can turn a paedophile into a non-paedophile.

    I was polite the last time and asked for you to clarify your frankly bizarre statements.

    Then you applied YOUR statements to ME (note - I am not you) and implied I was a paedophile. When you`re the one who`s said there`s no difference between having sex with a child and an adult.

    So now I`m not being polite. So I say again: you`re talking crap.
  79. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    June 4, 2010 at 8:07 pm
    "damn, sbeelz beat to it..."
    Yeah, but it`s moot, cause as I mentioned it`s a book intended to instruct teenage girls on how to get teenage boys.
  80. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 5, 2010 at 11:50 am
    @Angilion There`s no legal term called "teen" there`s CHILD and ADULT m-kay? afaik anyhow!
    So my dictionary says pedo=child, which is any NON-adult, which includes (in my country) 15 year old TEENS ok?
    Yes you can cross a border and it`s sort-of legal. True but sad eh? Goto Thailand and check out the age of concent there: none!
    Happily it`s illegal (for a Canadian, idk about Americans, I think it`s similar) to travel there, break Canada`s sex-laws; when they come back they face arrest.

    Someone can be a "biological adult" and still be a child under the law, I don`t see why you`d even think a 13-yo is legal or moral. I suppose if you were married first, that would make it `legal`.
    Well, I guess our definitions of "child" are different, you have a 3rd stage, and this is a dead thread anyhow. Still I`ll look back for any reply.
  81. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 5, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    Damn, you really are that stupid. Or you`re being a good troll.

    I`ll say it again:

    YOU argued that there`s no difference between having sex with someone who has completed puberty (i.e. is an adult) and someone who has not yet started puberty (i.e. is a child).

    YOU WROTE THAT. I DID NOT WRITE THAT. I ASKED YOU IF IT WAS WHAT YOU REALLY MEANT TO WRITE.

    Damn, you are irritating.

    And stop libelling me with this "13 year old" crap, because it`s illegal to libel online and it is possible for me to find you and sue you. You are not anonymous.

    Is that clear enough for you? If not, get someone to read it to you and explain. While you`re at it, try the same for the rest of the posts in this thread. Then take some English lessons.
  82. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 5, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    Well, I guess our definitions of "child" are different, you have a 3rd stage, and this is a dead thread anyhow.

    Reality makes the definitions. You`re talking about biology here - do you think that I create biology? That would make me a god. I consider it highly unlikely that I am a god.

    I had a third stage. So does every human. It`s called adolescence. People do not suddenly switch from child to adult instantaneously. It`s a process that takes years.

    Why do I need to point that out? Only a child or an alien could be unaware of it, and even a child might well have been told about it or seen it in an older relative.

    Legal ages of majority are a different issue and are necessarily arbritrary, but even they have three stages: minority, partial majority, majority. Note the legal terms are not child, teen and adult. Also note that I never said they were. You`re mistaking yourself for me again.
  83. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 5, 2010 at 7:12 pm
    I`ll spell it out very carefully:

    BIOLOGY

    Child - person who has not started puberty.
    Adolescent - person who has started puberty but has not yet an adult.
    Adult - person who has finished puberty and is biologically mature.

    LEGAL

    Age of majority - when a person takes on the full rights and responsibilities of their society.

    A minor is a person who has not yet reached the age of majority, but in most places nowadays there are a number of years during which a person is in between the two states. In the UK, for example, the age of criminal responsibility is 10. People over 10 can be arrested, people under 10 can`t. So people over 10 aren`t entirely minors. The age of majority is 18. So people between 10 and 18 are between the two states, with various age limits for various things. It`s 18 for most things, but there are different ages for some things (e.g. 16 for mandatory education) and graduated changes for some things (e.g. emp
  84. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 5, 2010 at 8:30 pm
    Hey Angilion! Thanks for your replies, even if they argue with me :)
    FYI I wasn`t trolling, I SERIOUSLY didn`t understand your point of view. For the record I think you`re one of "the good people" and I was simply amazed at what I thought was your opinion on this topic (pedophilia, eh?)
    So I hope I can clear this up without upsetting you. It`s a Zen thing, eh? (all cats are Zen, lolz!)
    completed puberty (i.e. is an adult)
    This is where you are wrong. We are talking about (I`m tempted to use all caps here!) the age of concent@! NOT majority. It`s a legal definition which varies according to location. There are ONLY TWO persons: child/adult. Period!
    You can say "oh what about.." but that`s MOOT! If JOHN LAW says 16 is legal, then by definition (my favorite term it seems) 15 is PEDOPHILIA!

    idk what you add to that, it`s cut & dried.
    Furthermore if the AoC is 14, then 15 is A-OK. I don`t like it but that`s the way it
  85. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 5, 2010 at 8:44 pm
    I was never talking about biology, only LAW and MORALITY.
    Child = under the age of concent
    Adult = over the age of concent
    There is NO other status!
    We`re not talking about "criminal responsibility" or "voting age" or anything like that. SEX! Intercorse! Buggery! That`s the topic and there`s only two types: legal and illegal. (entirely based on age in this case).
    Law has nothing to do with reality! lolz! Neither does morality (it`s subjective, eh?)
    So when I say you`re wrong for thinking there`s 3 "stages" this is why: the LAW (in every country I know of) has an AGE OF CONCENT and THAT is the ONLY thing I`m talking about here.
  86. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 5, 2010 at 8:54 pm
    It sickens me that some people/countries allow children to become sexual objects. Canada was amoung the worst for this with our "14 is legal" Liberal (party name) law.
    And the NDP party wanted it lowered to 12! Imagine ME (I`m 46) `dating` (by that I mean having sex with) one of the children in my daycare (there`s 2 12+ children) legally? NOT! If I were to do such a thing I hope to be struck dead on the spot, "legality" notwithstanding.

    YES the "AoC" is an arbitrary number, perhaps there`s lots of 15 y-o who`re ready for "it". But that is MOOT! There has to be a limit and currently (in Canada) that limit is 16 year of age!

    So I honestly don`t know what your point is. Is "adolescence" a legal definition in Europe? Does puberty "make it OK"? If I haven`t covered it, let me know, eh?
    I thank you in advance for your input.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 6, 2010 at 2:46 pm
    I was never talking about biology, only LAW and MORALITY.

    You were talking about biology. You just don`t know what the words you`re using actually mean.

    Child = under the age of concent
    Adult = over the age of concent
    There is NO other status!

    And you`re still obviously and foolishly wrong even if you`re intending to talk about law and morality and using the wrong words to do so.

    You`re now defining `adult` and `child` solely in terms of whatever age any given legal system assigns as the age at which consent to sex carries full legal weight.

    You`re wrong about that too, even if you ignore biology and morality and consider only law. Which is doubly wrong of you, because `adult` isn`t a legal term.

    And you still aren`t making a distinction between sex with a preschool child and sex with someone who is an adult but under the age of consent. That`s disturbing.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 6, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    So I honestly don`t know what your point is.

    No, you don`t.

    That didn`t stop you accusing me of being a paedophile, solely on the basis of *your* ignorance and *your* inability to tell the difference between sex with a child and sex with an adult.

    That says a great deal about what kind of person you are.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 6, 2010 at 3:04 pm
    idk what you add to that, it`s cut & dried.

    You could add some knowledge, because you`re wrong in every respect:

    i) Paedophilia has nothing to do with the law. It`s about biology, not law. According to your argument, paedophilia could be ended completely simply by removing the age of consent, or made almost universal by making the age of consent, say, 30. That`s ridiculous.

    ii) The law does not use only the terms `adult` and `child`. Usually, it doesn`t use those terms at all. Usually, it has far more than two statuses, reflecting the reality that people do not instantaneously change from children to adults. It`s laughable that you talk about legal status and then so vehemently reject the idea of an age of majority - that is the legal status.

    You don`t know what the words you`re using mean, you don`t know your own legal system, you just simply don`t know enough to talk meaningfully about the subject.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 6, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    You`re even wrong about the age of consent. So even if I ignore the facts that you`re wrong about what paedophilia is, wrong about what an adult is, wrong about what the law says about how a person`s age affects their legal status, and wrong about all those things in very fundamental ways...you`re even wrong about what an age of consent is, because most legal systems have different ages of consent for different things...even if I ignore that and just consider the age of consent to sex, you`re still wrong. The law still doesn`t have only two statuses - it has several, depending on the ages of the people involved. Unlike you, the law makes a distinction between a 5 year old and a 15 year old, a distinction you vehemently state is impossible to make because there can only be two states - adult or child.

    You`re not just wrong, you`re ridiculously wrong.
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    whipsmart Female 18-29
    665 posts
    June 6, 2010 at 4:00 pm
    Calm down everybody! It says teen-age, NOT teenage!
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    cahalla Female 18-29
    961 posts
    June 6, 2010 at 5:44 pm
    oh dear.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 6, 2010 at 7:32 pm
    So @Angilion, you`re saying anyone who is "physically and adult" is OK? And what EXACTLY do you base that on?
    The law bases it on biological AGE and yes it`s different in different places, like most laws are eh? Smoking, driving a car and such are all based on age. You got a problem with that? idk

    The law in Canada is: 16 is the age of concent for sex, all sorts. It WAS 14 until recently. I believe there`s a 4-year `buffer zone` whereby a 17-yo can date a 16-yo and not goto jail. Unlike many States in the USA.
    SO if a 30-yo has sex with a 5 or 15 they`re molesting children. Child molestation = pedoplilia, eh? YES there`s a difference, doing it to a 5 should carry the death penalty IMO, but this is Canada.
    I was explaining MY USE of those terms, since you don`t seem to understand them. There`s a law for the Age of Concent and you`re either over the age (adult) or under (child) MY wording, k?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 7, 2010 at 2:09 am
    So @Angilion, you`re saying anyone who is "physically and adult" is OK?

    I`ve said nothing about it. You`ve just made some things up from your own lack of comprehension, and that`s what I`ve been objecting to.

    In fact, I mostly agree with UK law on the subject. Under 16 is illegal and the further under 16, the more illegal it is. The only thing I disagree with is the requirement to be magically aware of a person`s true age regardless of any and all evidence to the contrary - I think that`s an unreasonable requirement because magic isn`t real.

    I was explaining MY USE of those terms, since you don`t seem to understand them.

    Why should I understand (or more accurately, agree with) your redefinitions of words? They`re not logical, they`re not even internally consistent and you are not the absolute dictator of English.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 7, 2010 at 5:56 pm
    Well, I said x-y-z (that`s ZED not `zeee` eh!) and you said `what are you talking about` (to put it in a polite way) and I said x-y-z=this & that.
    "...you are not the absolute dictator of English" well YES I AM! (and if you believe that one...)
    So it seems (to me) you think I`m wrong for simply saying "underage=illegal" because I should say "the more underage it is=the more illegal it is". Well fair enough, it`s just not that way in Canada.

    AND the idea of "age of concent" really bothers you because it means asking your girlfriend for ID! lolz! Well meeting the parents is also a good way to figure out if she`s old enough eh?

    I`m glad we sorted some things out Angilion, I was worried you thought I was a dratter or something.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 12:57 am
    AND the idea of "age of concent" really bothers you because it means asking your girlfriend for ID! lolz!

    You really are either very stupid or deliberately irritating. I`m not sure which.

    Why don`t you look for remedial English classes at your local college? That way, you might become able to understand simple English phrases such as "regardless of any and all evidence to the contrary". Evidence like "ID". Which is easily faked. You also appear to be assuming I`m the only person in the UK, which is bizarre.

    You are so determined to make people think I`m a paedophile that it`s making you look bad. Which you are. I don`t care why you hate me, because I have no respect for you, but you are showing what scum you are with this libel.

    Yes, libel. Get someone to explain that to you at your remedial English class.

    I am curious though - why do you hate me so much that you`re libelling me so badly?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 1:00 am
    So it seems (to me) you think I`m wrong for simply saying "underage=illegal" because I should say "the more underage it is=the more illegal it is". Well fair enough, it`s just not that way in Canada.

    No, you`re wrong in pretty much everything you`ve written in this thread. I`ve already explained why, but you`re either incapable of understanding or you`re pretending to be.

    But you`re most wrong in your libel. Perhaps more relevantly, you`re breaking the law. Both here and in Canada. Are you sure you want to continue with that?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 10:42 am
    Do you think there is no difference between sex with someone who is biologically an adult (i.e. past puberty) and sex with someone who is biologically a child (i.e. has not yet started puberty)?
    Here, Angilion, HERE is where you said it`s OK to have sex with a 13 year old. I know of 13-yo girls with children (and a 26 year olf Grandmother too!). YOU are saying there`s a difference between a 13-yo pre-puberty and a 13-yo POST-puberty, NOT ME!
    I don`t CARE if they`re past puberty. If the LAW says they haven`t reached the Age Of Legal Concent For Sex then it`s (duh!) NOT allowed!
    Do you think that someone swaps between being a paedophile and not being a paedophile simply by crossing a border?
    Sadly this is the case, I don`t AGREE with it but you simply don`t understand it.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 10:47 am
    I never once accused you of anything. Quote me if I have or STFU.
    You`ve SAID things that are wrong, but I never said or implied that YOU DO those things in any way shape or form.
    Unlike yourself, who have stooped to the very thing you`re so busy accusing me of. In fact I`ve asked if I`ve got it wrong, but you`ve chosen to bring insults and slander as the bulk of your arguement.
    I hate you? Your projection is a real probelm here, just MHO.
    OVer and OUt.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 4:58 pm
    You stated, amongst other things, that there`s no difference between sex with a 5 year old and sex with a 15 year old. Not that both are or should be illegal, but that both are the same. That would mean that there`s no difference between sex with a child and sex with an adult minor. I asked you if that was what you meant. Note that I *asked*:

    Do you think there is no difference between sex with someone who is biologically an adult (i.e. past puberty) and sex with someone who is biologically a child (i.e. has not yet started puberty)?

    You replied with your first libellous insult:

    I`m shocked at you Angilion! YOU think it`s OK to plug a 13 year-old bleeder?

    And no, that question mark does not actually make it a question.

    You went on to drop the question mark entirely, which was at least less dishonest of you:

    I don`t see why you`d even think a 13-yo is legal or moral.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 4:58 pm

    Then you went back to the unquestioning question mark

    So @Angilion, you`re saying anyone who is "physically and adult" is OK?

    and then dropped it again

    AND the idea of "age of concent" really bothers you because it means asking your girlfriend for ID!

    And now you`re making untrue statements about what you`ve been doing. Which is all the more stupid of you because you`ve left the posts in which you did it. If you wanted to cover up what you`ve done, you should have deleted them.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 5:02 pm
    I never once accused you of anything. Quote me if I have or STFU.

    Done - see the last two posts.

    You`ve SAID things that are wrong

    No, I haven`t. You`ve made some things up and claimed they were my views. They were entirely from your imagination.

    In fact I`ve asked if I`ve got it wrong, but you`ve chosen to bring insults and slander as the bulk of your arguement.

    As I`ve shown below, you started off by accusing me of paedophilia.

    So you`re lying again.

    I hate you?

    Obviously. I would like to know why you did so right from the start, but it`s not important.
  103. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 5:05 pm
    Do you think there is no difference between sex with someone who is biologically an adult (i.e. past puberty) and sex with someone who is biologically a child (i.e. has not yet started puberty)?

    Here, Angilion, HERE is where you said it`s OK to have sex with a 13 year old.

    As everyone can see, it is not.

    THERE was when I asked you about your opinion, based on your statement that there`s no difference between sex with a 5 year old (definitely a child) and sex with a 15 year old (who might be an adult minor).

    You`re making the same "mistake" again - your opinion is not mine. My question says nothing about my opinion.
  104. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 5:11 pm
    Do you think that someone swaps between being a paedophile and not being a paedophile simply by crossing a border?

    Sadly this is the case, I don`t AGREE with it but you simply don`t understand it.

    It isn`t the case and the lack of understanding is yours.

    You don`t understand what a paedophile is and therefore you don`t understand why a paedophile is always a paedophile regardless of where they are.

    You don`t understand what a child is.

    You don`t understand what an adult is.

    You don`t understand that adolescence exists.

    You don`t understand what the law is, specifically that you don`t understand what an age of majority is or that there are various legal distinctions between a minor and a person who has reached the age of majority.

    You don`t understand that a statement is not a question.

    You don`t understand that your opinion is not mine.

    And to cap it all, you have a limited understa
  105. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 6:14 pm
    *sigh*
    I don`t know what a child or adult is, but you see no difference between a 30 year old and a 13 year old who are both "past puberty"?
    This is the RIDICULOUS (arousing or deserving ricicule, I looked it up in the Dictionary :P) sort of arguement you`re throwing at me.

    I`ve already said that sex with a child should carry the death penalty (I believe I said 6-yo but I`m not about to look it up) what more do you want? Yet you repeat your nonsense, almost like you never even read it...

    I understand that your opinions are not mine, and I thank God for THAT!

    it means asking your girlfriend for ID!
    Okie, I DO see the problem here, and I do apologise. I did NOT mean YOU (Angilion) I meant `you` as in everyone. So yup, I can see how you`d read that badly (my bad!) and yup I am sorry I wasn`t more clear. I certianly never intended that to be a personal attack, and understand your being upset by it. I know I`d be!
  106. Profile photo of 5Cats
    5Cats Male 50-59
    33085 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 6:25 pm
    As for borders:
    Consider polyamory. If a man (or woman for that matter) has 3 spouses, in say Iran where it`s perfectly legal, are they perverts? In OUR society yes, but NOT theirs.
    Are they immoral? Illegal? Same applies. By THEIR measure it`s OK.

    Now for the more important question of child sex. In a place where 12 is the age of concent (like Canada almost had) then is a 30 yo having sex with a 13 yo illegal? Immoral? A perversion?
    I PERSONALLY WOULD SAY: YES YES YES
    However the sad reality would be different, obviously it wouldn`t be illegal in that place.
    But I remind you that Canada has a law that says if one goes to another country and commit pedophilia, a Canadian faces arrest IN CANDADA which is something I wholey approve of!

    So I hope this sorts a few things out, it is not my intention to flame, troll or otherwise p*ss you off, eh?
  107. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    June 9, 2010 at 3:08 pm
    I don`t know what a child or adult is, but you see no difference between a 30 year old and a 13 year old who are both "past puberty"?
    This is the RIDICULOUS (arousing or deserving ricicule, I looked it up in the Dictionary :P) sort of arguement you`re throwing at me.

    You said there wasn`t a difference between 5 and 15.

    I didn`t say there wasn`t a difference between 13 and 30.

    So no, it isn`t the same.

    Anyway, this thread is now old enough for the transient nature of IAB to have ensured that no-one else is reading it. I no longer need to defend myself in public, so the only reason to continue would be if I cared what you think.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
    4903 posts
    August 1, 2011 at 11:50 pm
    Nope Angilion, I`m still hanging around, and you`re still the biggest douchebag f*cking idiot on the internet, good day dumbass.

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