I-A-B Pop Quiz: A School In England Bans...?

Submitted by: Matwix_2004 6 years ago in
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/york_and_north_yorkshire/10306385.stm

OK, this isn"t America filled with a bunch of right-wing nuts, this is the UK. They"re a bit more liberal, right? Wrong
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Female 38
I go to a sixth-form college in England and yeah, if our skirts aren`t knee-length we`re sent home to change.
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Male 5,617
Baal: That does not ignore your post.
1) Even if a person`s school makes him aware of how sex works, it doesn`t mean he feels secure in his home society actually buying condoms.
With the teaching students correct methods for addressing a flute, there is always the "You`re not supposed to be doing this but..." attached to the lesson.
2) Sexual attraction goes beyond the visual so, even people that wear burqas desire sex, are desired and will find an opportunity to grab hold of a flute.

So, "the problem" is "teens may know how to prepare but are afraid," not "fowl temptresses show too much flesh."
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Male 787
Skirts are already regulated in most schools around here.
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Male 1,164
jo bagley = major feminist, i for one if i had a twelve or thirteen year old daughter would not want her walking around with there skirts high enough to see the lower parts of her ass cheeks which is evidently what some of them were doing, female rights or not it is putting them in danger
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Male 4,547
CodeJockey:
Perhaps if the girls in your school had longer skirts you would have concentrated a little more on literacy.

Your response, to my post, ignores the information in my post.
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Female 452
"Some schools in the U.S. don`t allow students to wear a shirt with the U.S. flag, wear or write anything critical of Obama, or bring a toy soldier to school. Some schools lead chants of worship and praise for B.O."

That`s kind of creepy. What schools lead chants of worship for Barack Obama?
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Male 112
I don`t really like this, the title makes you think that it is a ridiculous strange event, and that the uk is nuts because of what there banning.
but really banning short skirts seems reasonable.
I`m a pupil at a uk school (just finished actually). And my school has virtual the same rules and my school rules state if its above half the thigh then its not ok same with tight leggings and jeggings.
Obviously the girls of the school don`t like it and the dudes don`t care, but it seems reasonable you wouldn`t expect someone coming into work wearing a skirt that makes the bottom of the ass clearly visible. It`s just not right, especially for 13-14 year old`s.

I guess this could seem odd in to some Americans that go to schools without uniform, but I think anyone in a school with uniform will agree.
I mean as a boy in the school not like I don`t want it, but I can see why schools have that rule.

I think I dislike that the Title because it makes it seem like
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Male 4,867
"Isnt this why we have the first amendment?"

...you sir, are a dumbass
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Male 601
>JeffBeau

When someone criticizes the U.S as being right-wing, they`re weighing it against Europe. Compared to Europe we are indeed filled with right-wing nuts, but compared to our own history we are becoming more left-wing.

Anyway, just thought I`d pitch in.
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Male 601
My school`s administrators actually tried banning tight-fitting jeans on the grounds that they drew attention to the lower body. It never happened, but I think it demonstrates how overprotective people get.

Hell, I think dress-codes should be banned altogether to let people learn for themselves why they shouldn`t wear suggestive clothing.
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Male 180
I`m still wondering where`s the evidence that America is "filled with a bunch of right-wing nuts". Democrats (def. not right-wing nuts) have held and expanded their majority in Congress since 2002 and won all 3 branches handily in 2008 as well as a number of state legislatures and governorships.

But, ok, let`s measure nutiness by school strictures codes. Where I live, the public schools in dominantly Democrat city districts are the only ones with dress codes. Some schools in the U.S. don`t allow students to wear a shirt with the U.S. flag, wear or write anything critical of Obama, or bring a toy soldier to school. Some schools lead chants of worship and praise for B.O. but do now allow students to practice their religion (especially Christianity *brrrrr*). And after years of political pressure by those who know better (a.k.a. `progressives`), high school kids can no longer smoke cigarettes.

Yeah, those "right-wing nuts" are out of control.
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Male 1,929
They let girls wear trousers at our school the first year I went to sixth form, and it was very odd....

I bet the pedophiles don`t know who to touch now.
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Male 4,680
"Isnt this why we have the first amendment?"
As far as I`m aware the first amendment does not cover skirt sizes.
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Male 22
Isnt this why we have the first amendment?
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Female 3,574
[quote]When I was in middle school in the early `80`s, it was fashionable for girls to wear very short shorts...yes..we loved it..no, it did not "distract" us[/quote]
It`s not about being distracting, it`s just not appropriate for a professional or school environment to wear a skirt that short. Like I said before, wearing a skirt like that to work or to an interview would be considered inappropriate. Part of going to school is learning how to function in the real professional world and knowing how to dress yourself in an acceptable way is part of that.
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Female 15
Ehh,this is normal,there are some school here where girls have to wear ankle length skirts,in my school our skirts are meant to be just below the knee.

It`s not a big deal,surprised you didn`t get this article from the Daily Mail tbh.
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Male 158
Girls are allowed to go to schools??
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Male 628
my sixth form collage is like that, they just send people home if they go against the dress code
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Male 5,617
"...yet, the vice-principal felt the need to require shorts be longer..."
You were "at risk" of vice-pricipal`s "molestin`!"

"Gawd! Keep them away! Oh, Gawd! the sight of pubescent knees!! I will be drawn to sin!!!"
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Female 106
That`s not surprising or odd at all.
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Male 3,364
heh...this had been going on since the 1950`s. Such prudes. When I was in middle school in the early `80`s, it was fashionable for girls to wear very short shorts...yes..we loved it..no, it did not "distract" us, yet, the vice-principal felt the need to require shorts be longer. We were a very unhappy group of boys.
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Female 7,867
Not News- my youngest daughters school banned skirts from last September. Thats fine to me- they would have complained if boys wore skirts, and some of the skirt lenghts were too short.
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Female 190
I like what they`re doing (I think we should either all wear trousers or give boys the option to wear skirts) (hey, gender equality), but they`re doing it for the complete wrong reasons.
"At risk"? I mean, c`mon, really...
@joanielspeak got it in one.
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Female 3,574
I think it makes sense. A lot of girls who wear uniforms to school hike their skirts up WAY too high. If I wore a skirt that short to work, it would not be appropriate, and it`s not appropriate in a school either. If they can`t enforce them to wear their skirts properly, then I see no problem with changing the dress code.

The at risk part is completely retarded though.
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Male 904
Make `em wear burqas! It`s the only way to protect them from men and from themselves.
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Female 364
Why is this even on here?
This is completely understandable.
Girls leave home to go to school in the morning wearing their appropriate length school uniform skirt, but on the way there fold them up, or change into a shorter skirt which is completely inapropriate for the school environment.

You cant always punish ALL of the girls who do this, its completely ridiculous to expect that;
The logical conclusion being to ban skirts altogether.
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Female 122
I would like to know what these girls are placing themselves at risk of. Ogling teens? Sexual harassment? Rape in the parking lot? If high skirts bring out these risk factors, then the school has much bigger problems than an unenforced dress code.
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Male 1,231
I think what the girls were doing was wearing reasonable length skirts into school, then hitching them up, so that others could pretty much see what they had for breakfast. The school lost patience and decided the only was forward was to ban them altogether. Not sure it was anything to do with teenage pregnancy- most of the girls would probably wear much skimpier stuff outside of school anyways.
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Male 577
I don`t understand why they don`t just ban the short skirts. In my high school girls could only have skirts that were at least knee length. They enforced it pretty well, unless you were a cheerleader.
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Male 639
"The discipline and education are a lot better and you get a better education."

What the hell are you talking about? Yeah OK so grade average may be higher but ordinary schools that allow any level of student are surely going to be lower as they are catering for that extra demographic. Just because a school is religious it doesn`t mean you will be better educated.

Although perhaps you are right. Maybe the `education is a lot better and you get a better education`.
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Male 25,416
Stupid silly people in a position of power!
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Male 623
It`s a religious School, meaning its not under control of the Gov. Their prerogative to ban them. You actually get a lot people pretending to be christian going to church etc to get into these schools. The discipline and education are a lot better and you get a better education.
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Male 24
Children should not be told that sexuality is bad. It leads to serious sexual problems later in life. Much better is to give them proper sexual education at an early age, but for some reason many parents try to avoid the subject. Just my opinion
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Male 1,704
If the teachers cant make educated decisions still, then how`d they expect the pupils to suceed?

The UK generally make the headlines with crazy rules of somesort.
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Male 129
england is full of pedos, i go to a gramma school where we all have to where suits and poo and you`d be suprised by the number of gay pedos you get....
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Male 4,867
I just left secondary school, and enjoyed the wonders of short skirts...this is a shame.

But then again it said Yorkshire....and no one wants to see that shiit
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Female 803
It sounds like it`s a Catholic school. Even though I`m in Chicago, that`s what my Catholic high school did the year before I went there. My freshman year, the seniors were allowed to wear skirts because they already had for 3 years, but after that it was black or khaki pants only. It`s more of a religious moral standpoint by the school than it is anything else. Yeah, they`re trying to look after young girls` safety, but I`m thinking sex ed would do them a lot better than a ban on skirts. Oops, silly me! It`s a religious school...
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Male 5,617
OK, Baal:
Teens are taught: "You are under age, so you are not supposed to do this."
-Do you bother to prepare for something you are not supposed to do?
-At 12 or 14, how comfortable would you have been buying a box of condoms?

The problem is in the psychology of guilt associated with preparation, not with skirt length.
Somewhere right now, there is an Islamic girl, covered head to toe, fantasizing about a stranger tearing apart all that garb and giving her a nice ass-ramming. Not far from her, it`s actually happening...
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Male 4,547
Damnit, here I am trying to break a personal record for short argument and you go and ruin it.

Might I ask what is the problem? The UK has had reasonable sex education since my parents were in school.

They taught everything from condom use, to the correct way to give a blowjob without injuring the other party (don`t blow ladies, it`s just a name, I don`t need my nutsack inflated).

So, please explain the problem, of which short skirts are not allowed to be an element.
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Male 12,138
Baal, I respectfully suggest that the inherent problems with teenage pregnancy in the UK are nothing to do with the length of skirts that female grammar school girls wear.
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Male 4,547
The UK has the highest instance of teenage pregnancy in Europe.

I support this decision. See above. Shortest argument ever.
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Male 379
Yes Stelly, let`s all encourage our 14 year old daughters to dress like sluts and get pregnant when they have no means of supporting themselves. Moron.
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Male 1,557
The photo is misleading, it`s talking about like 12 year old girls who have a skirt right up their thighs.

But as Stelly said, even the shortest of skirts would not be as revealing as a bathing suit, which isn`t under any scrutiny.
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Female 470
Well now the girls are going to wear low-riding, hip-hugging, underwear and coin slot exposing trousers instead. The girls are going to be slutty whether you like it or not.
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Female 387
Well that`s changed since I was at school. We weren`t allowed to wear trousers. We had pleated skirts. Recipe for disaster? Don`t you know it!
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Female 1,589
When I was in middle school (grades 6-8) the dress code was that all shorts and skirts must reach past your fingertips when your hands are held to your side. If we didn`t follow this, they would make us wear these really ugly sweat pants. If we didn`t wear them, then we were sent home or suspended.
Wearing pants during the hot weather is just cruel.
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Male 317
Can someone enlighten me on how looking up a skirt at a girls underwear is worse than a girl wearing a bathing suit? What if she is wearing a bathing suit under her skirt?
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Male 317
Oh crap...the boys might get horny, have kids and keep the human race going - NOOOOOOOO.....
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Male 5,617
Of what exactly are they "at risk?"
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Male 1,404
Why did the school have to give some bone-headed stupid excuse for the change in policy? That is the only thing that made this article slightly news worthy.
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Female 728
I think it makes sense to enforce a certain level of decency. And skirts really are rather impractical in many cases. What happens when you have chem lab? I know I`m not allowed to wear a skirt to chem lab.
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Male 249
i live down the road from this school xD

@admisaok
It`s a private school, they can enforce a uniform if they damn well please.

nahmate its a state school just a bit churchy


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Male 215
Angelmassb, I just noticed the pun.

Anyway, this seems like a nonissue. Schools have dress codes sometimes. Some are lenient, some are not. Why not cover schools that don`t allow spaghetti straps, or schools that don`t let people wear hats?
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Male 2,592
if i was a student at that school i`d be like awww hecks noooo but if i was a father i`d be like oh fzuksh yeah
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Male 516
It`s a private school, they can enforce a uniform if they damn well please. I had to wear a uniform up until college. I hated it, but they have every right to do it.
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Male 541
Trousers ain`t that bad. A few of the schools in my area forced girls to wear ankle length skirts which look ridiculous.
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Male 196
As a 28 year old male teacher, good on them. Some female students wear ridiculous clothing, too low-cut tops or really short skirts. It`s totally inappropriate. Does being a liberal now mean you have to support young ladies dressing like whores?
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Female 1,515
@Angillion, They used to send girls home who had skirts that didn`t go to their knees....But I`m sure people would be up-in-arms about that now-a-days, as it`s taking away from time they could be learning (I guess).
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Male 2,345
what are they placing themselves at risk of exactly???? RAPE? sorry that is a VIOLENT crime and has NOTING to do AT ALL with what a woman (or man) is wearing. Rape is not a sexual crime...seems to me that this school is a little behind the times but then again it is a relgious school...
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Female 1,515
Um this isn`t a big deal. I went to a catholic school and they were thinking of doing the same thing. Cause girls abuse the kilts. Seriously, half the girls would wear kilts so short that if they bent over a little you could see oondapants. And most were wearing thongs. And the boys took advantage by standing in strategic places by the stairs so they could look up the stairs and see everything.... I have no problem with this.
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Male 1,674
Wow, i remember the outrage when my school first put up the "No Shirt - No Shoes - No Schoolin`" sign.
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Male 38,501
put the little tarts in burqa`s!
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Female 547
So the school has a dress code, big freakin deal.
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Male 774
What happens when they come to school in pants that don`t fit?
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Male 2,199
holy poo i guessed right, i thought they would ban skirts before even reading the article... I`m special... don`t take this moment away from me...
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Male 7,378
How to administer skirt length? To the knee ladies. No need to put the skirt manufacturers out of business.
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Male 5,190
Ouch lol.
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Male 145
My mother had to wear a skirt to her Catholic High School, and they had a length requirement for her skirts. She`s 5`10" and had to alter her own skirts to meet the maximum length: at kneecap.
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Male 15,510
Down with the skirts!
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Male 1,765
That`s weird, my school forced girls to wear skirts.
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Female 248
Good for them.
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Male 12,365
How do you administer a skirt length policy, madest?

It`s much easier to just require trousers. It`s not like they`re gendered any more.
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Male 7,378
Why didn`t they simply require longer skirts? This story reeks of a secret plan hidden in an absurd excuse.
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Female 329
i am not a right winger and this doesnt bug me at all
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Male 2,034
I read the caption here and was expecting something much more ridiculous. This is completely reasonable.
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Male 12,365
Maybe overkill, but it`s easier to administer than simply banning "look at my knickers" skirts (which is the point of the ban).

Schools have dress codes and this one isn`t sexist, so I don`t care about it.
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Male 4,746
Not a big shock. Here, the catholic girls wait until they are away from home, then roll up the waist so their knee length skirt becomes a mini skirt.
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Female 211
They did the same thing at the Catholic high in my town. In Ontario. Right Wing nuts are right wing nuts. They`re EVERYWHERE.
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Female 1,604
That was a non story
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Male 2,551
Link: I-A-B Pop Quiz: A School In England Bans...? [Rate Link] - OK, this isn`t America filled with a bunch of right-wing nuts, this is the UK. They`re a bit more liberal, right? Wrong
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