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130 Responses to How Many In The US Think Jesus Will Return By 2050

  1. Profile photo of eugenius
    eugenius Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    Link: How Many In The US Think Jesus Will Return By 2050 - 10 percent? 25 percent? 50 percent? Place your bets, I-A-B.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 24, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    Not surprising, People have been predicting his return before the fall of Rome, Then the year 1000, and every 100 years since.

    Matthew 24:36 & Matthew 24:43-44, No one will know when.
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    June 24, 2010 at 3:16 pm
    8O FFS America WTF?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    June 24, 2010 at 3:16 pm
    Who needs Jesus? Thanks to BP the water in the gulf is so thick we can all walk on water.



    Kilroy 11:23 Jesus was here!
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    eclsage Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    1/2 of those 2 were joking I hope :/ I am sure 1/5 people are batpoo crazy but not 2/5... or has the south been making babies when no one is watching!?!?
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    glassjawdave Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 3:34 pm
    "Who needs Jesus? Thanks to BP the water in the gulf is so thick we can all walk on water.



    Kilroy 11:23 Jesus was here!"

    Actually oil is thinner than water. So yeah, you fail.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 3:39 pm
    Islam says Jesus` return will be on a Friday. So 1/7 chance of being right. FYI.

    To be fair that interpretation is disputed, but still a fun fact that most Muslims seem to believe.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 3:43 pm
    So... forget 2012, its 2050 now?
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    What`s more disturbing is that 54% of Americans believe that the Bible is literally true. LITERALLY true, every word... Wow.
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    GParadox Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    Ahaha, The return of Jesus, ahaha... oh cr*p, they`re serious?
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    mmill928 Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 3:56 pm
    It`s terrifying to think that people who are in positions of power think that all the world`s problems will end when Jesus comes back, that he`s coming back soon, so we don`t need to worry about poverty, hunger, conservation or pollution because Jesus will just fix it anyway.
    Scary.
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    Lelio Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 4:06 pm
    I`ve never liked the whole "___% of Americans think _____."
    Really, it should be "___% of the couple thousand Americans we polled think _____."

    In this case, 1,456 out of... What, 310 million U.S. citizens?
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    jimbobsthebe Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 4:25 pm
    Pah don`t listen to them, they also think they have a chance at winning the world cup ;)
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    BenTheBug Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    Lelio`s right, I didn`t even get asked to participate. I guess I`m not American.
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    fishgul69 Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 4:47 pm
    ditto that thought mmill928. but when you think about it, it`s the only way to keep people in the sucky place they are already in instead of actually doing anything about it, "you`re poor now, but in heaven you`ll live like a king!"
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    aseirinn Male 70 & Over
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    June 24, 2010 at 4:56 pm
    would jesus return? no, there`s no such thing as ghosts...
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    Raokin Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 4:56 pm
    I totally agree Lelio. Polls can be very misleading.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:01 pm
    Lelio, with polls, you pretty much have to take a small sample (unless you`re the govt and can send polls to everyone and hound them until everyone fills them out). If the sample is random and an accurate representation of the country on a smaller scale (i.e. different races, different states, different income) then it doesn`t matter that they didn`t poll every single person and it`s still fine for them to say _% of Americans.
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    Norts Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    I thought the Bible said Jesus wouldn`t return until the end of the world.
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    Also, 87% of statistics are made up on the spot. It`s a fact.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:11 pm
    they also believed it would happen in 2000 and now in 2012.
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    Snow_Crash Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:15 pm
    So 41% of the American population believes in zombies?
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    xxxveganxxx Male 13-17
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:33 pm
    Slowly loosing faith in humanity .-.
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    HOBOMOE Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:33 pm
    Hmm, i think some people are ill informed, he`s living and preaching in south america already.

    for future trolls this was from Religulous
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    shappy Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:34 pm
    you thought your lag was bad, its going to take jesus 2050 years to respawn!
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    ImNoGod Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:37 pm
    The other 59% don`t buy it because they know they think the world will end in 2012
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    pui Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:44 pm
    k? how the heck do they "predict" that? lol
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:52 pm
    They`re just going to ignore how stupid they look and predict year 2100, when 2050 comes and goes and Jesus still hasn`t reappeared.
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:55 pm
    @angelmassb, cobrakiller etc. Could still happen in 2012! The poll asked if he would appear BEFORE 2050, incase he forgot the date and ends up a few years late.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    June 24, 2010 at 5:56 pm
    Gotta survive 2012 first.
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
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    June 24, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    Uh, they surveyed 1,549. Not really an accurate test for "of all Americans", imo.
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    splat13 Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    Yeah, apocalypse!
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    whipsmart Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 6:33 pm
    face palm.
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    June 24, 2010 at 6:38 pm
    That`s it - I`m moving to Canada.
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    razlem Male 13-17
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    June 24, 2010 at 6:57 pm
    1st- 1500 people does not represent 310 million
    2nd- it depends where you conduct the poll. The south will have a higher percentage than the north.
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    BostonKaiser Male 40-49
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    June 24, 2010 at 7:12 pm
    I think it`s more likely Cthulhu will show up before the zombie Jew.
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    Barnk Male 30-39
    486 posts
    June 24, 2010 at 7:14 pm
    Jesus was a Mayan computer program that cured cancer.
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    shadow946 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 7:16 pm
    Is Canada just every American`s back up plan?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 7:37 pm
    heres to hoping!
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    rainbowfarts Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 7:55 pm
    razlem, unless a crappy group did this study, 1500 is a very acceptable number to represent the US population (hoping it was a random sample, more would be extremely expensive and doesn`t really yield much of a difference when compared to a 1500 person sample) and I`m pretty sure they sampled from across the country so geography doesn`t matter
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    Rman1201 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:01 pm
    @razlem -
    Statistics 101. They control for all this by conducting a random sample. And Pew is a credited group that employs proper statistical methods. So you can say with about 99% certainty that these results hold true for the population as a whole.
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    Rman1201 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:02 pm
    damn you rainbowfarts and your faster typing speed.
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    xhaseox Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    the computer thing sounds 100% more likely to happen
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    mystery08 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    shadow946
    no mine is Australia
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    This is why it is difficult to have rational debate with certain demographics in America. Its hard to debate scientific reality with people who believe the ghost man in the sky is due back any day to whisk the righteous off to paradise.

    Ooooooookkkkkkkk.

    P.S. - To those who say the sample size is not enough, I don`t have the room to explain, but that was a large sample size, and statistically accurate within a high degree of probability within the sampling error.

    So, within the demographics they surveyed, it is likely another random poll of the same demographic would result in the same results.
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    Pingas Male 13-17
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:21 pm
    ...Nobody asked me, I`m in the US.
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:23 pm
    I know people are saying that 1500 is an acceptable number from a statistical point of view, but I`m still confused.

    Ok, if they surveyed 4,000 the result might be the same. But of a country consisting of, what are we at, like 400,000,000, do the results still transfer?
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    Jasonbobdude Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:38 pm
    In the Bible, they believed that Jesus was coming back just a few years after he died.

    I guess people are just convinced that it`ll happen in their lifetimes, for some reason?
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:47 pm
    This is why it is difficult to have rational debate with certain demographics in America. Its hard to debate scientific reality with people who believe the ghost man in the sky is due back any day to whisk the righteous off to paradise.
    Where it becomes REALLY scary is when those people have the nuclear codes...
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    dude1234 Male 13-17
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:48 pm
    Lolboy, I took a rudimentary high school class on statistics, and 1500 is actually a pretty big sample size. Of course, out of 300+ million people, it could be biased like crazy in one way or another.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:49 pm
    My thoughts:


    Cuz this is just typical.
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    Lobotomy Male 13-17
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    June 24, 2010 at 8:51 pm
    41% of the surveyed Americans.
  53. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 24, 2010 at 9:38 pm
    davymid: Are you trying to suggest that Christians want to blow up the world to cause Jesus to return ?

    I hope you`re joking, Because if you think that you need help.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 9:54 pm
    davymid: Are you trying to suggest that Christians want to blow up the world to cause Jesus to return ? I hope you`re joking, Because if you think that you need help.
    Crackr, not saying that at all. What I`m saying is that, for eight years the United States and the human species were in grave danger because the President of the United States was a man who believed literally in the reality of the prophecies of Armageddon. He believed that Armageddon (a) was inevitable and that it would be a nuclear war, and (b) that it was god`s will that that should happen. And consequently we were always in danger, that whenever a situation might arise, we could not count on our Evangelist-in-Chief to do everything possible to preserve peace in the world. If, I mean, after all, who is he to contradict the will of god, if he thinks that god really wants nuclear holocaust to fulfill the prophecy?
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    Boadicea Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 9:55 pm
    I don`t think Davymid is the one who needs help...
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    SweetAngel20 Female 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 9:56 pm
    I never trust a survey unless I`ve been personally asked that question.
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    Treadlong Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 10:37 pm
    can`t we just agree that "christian" is a blanket term just like "american" or "human being" before you get your panties in a bunch. You think I`m real proud to be a human being when certain segments of that group believe in forced clitorectomies, the medical benefits of raping a virgin or the profitability of war. My grandparents were christians and they were great people, Jack van Impe is a christian and I think he`s a creep Fred Phelps is a total douche nozzle.
    If you get bogged down with labels and terminology your gonna miss the point. In all groups there will be moderates and extremists, good folk and bad folk. Some Christians believe armageddon is gods will, which means some people think armageddon is gods will, thats makes us all look bad no matter what you believe in.
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    BlankTom Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 10:38 pm
    For those of you who are wondering if the sample size was too small, it`s not. When they report 41% believe in ...., they`re not actually saying exactly 41% believe in ..., they`re reporting on a range. So it`s 41% +/- some degree of error. Say the error is 2.5%, then what they`re really saying is that the percentage of americans who believe that ... is between 38.5 and 43.5%. Even that isn`t 100% garenteed. You can`t be 100% confident that the actual percentage of americans who believe that ... is between 38.5 and 43.5, but you *can* say that you are 95% confident this is the case. And in fact, that`s what they are telling us with that statistic.

    They are 95% confident that the percentage of americans who believe that jesus will return by 2050 is between 38.5 and 43.5

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    BlankTom Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 10:44 pm
    and 1546 is enough people to make that claim.

    Furthermore, for any survey like this, where the answer is a yes or no type thing, the most people you would need to survey to make the claim that you are 95% certain that the answer is +/- 2.5% is 1537, and that`s regardless of the size of the population. The only reason you would need more that that is if you want your confidence to be greater than 95% or you interval to be smaller.

    This assumes an indipendent random sample or people, which for a country as large as the us, can be difficult to setup.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 11:11 pm
    can`t we just agree that "christian" is a blanket term just like "american" or "human being" before you get your panties in a bunch. You think I`m real proud to be a human being when certain segments of that group believe in forced clitorectomies...
    You`ll find that this is 41% of Americans believe Jesus will return to earth before 2050. Of more relevance, I posted a link to a reputable, reliable source poll that 54% of Americans believe that the Bible is LITERALLY true. This is emphatically not just an small extremist fringe of religious wackjobs we`re talking about here.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    June 24, 2010 at 11:14 pm
    Also, you`ll appreciate that societies that force clitorectomies are human beings, yes, but the reason these heinous crimes against basic human rights continue to this day (it`s 2010, for f*ck sake) is purely because the people persecuting these crimes are doing so for fundamentally religious reasons. Subset of the former. In that case mainly Islamic, granted. But religious fervour is religious fervour, whatever particular brand of religion you happen to choose (or more likely, happen to have been born into).
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    slayer50515 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 11:17 pm
    OMG THEY SURVEYED LESS THAN 2K PEOPLE BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS THATS AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE RITE??!?!1?!?/

    Two points for trying, minus ten for saying those results mean something. That could MAYBE be considered a pilot study for that COUNTY in that state, not the entire drating nation.
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    Qwertyuiop95 Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 11:31 pm
    I so want Jesus to talk to a computer. I don`t care if there`s a nuclear WWIII beforehand.
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    TomSFox Male 18-29
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    June 24, 2010 at 11:34 pm
    It`s incredible how many adults still believe in fairy tales.
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    ferrari91169 Male 18-29
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    June 25, 2010 at 12:06 am
    @slayer50515,

    I agree...you could ask one city a question like that and have 60%-70% say that they think he`ll be back before 2050. Similarly you could ask a different city the same question and get only a 10%-20% response in favor.

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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 25, 2010 at 12:07 am
    davymid: ... the human species were in grave danger because the President... was a man who believed literally in the reality of the prophecies of Armageddon. He believed that Armageddon (a) was inevitable and that it would be a nuclear war, and (b) that it was god`s will that that should happen.

    That`s more tin foil hat moonbattiness then you accused of the 9/11 truthers of being. You Really believed GW Bush would`ve used nukes to cause `Armageddon` ?


    You`ve got a really bent and warped view of Christianity there man. First off, Evangelical Christians believe in the rapture (That means Christians will be caught up in the air and meet the lord, Before the tribulation).
    1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
    The Tribulation will last for seven years and Armageddon will happen at the end of the tribulation. Then Christ will reign on earth for a thousand years.

    GW Bush believes in the rapture, So do most Christians. Get a grip.
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
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    June 25, 2010 at 12:22 am
    "1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
    The Tribulation will last for seven years and Armageddon will happen at the end of the tribulation. Then Christ will reign on earth for a thousand years."

    Sounds pretty rational to me...
  68. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 25, 2010 at 12:23 am
    Davymid: But religious fervour is religious fervour, whatever particular brand of religion you happen to choose

    So you`re equating fundamentalist Christians (and other religions) with Radical Islam ?

    When is the last time Christians stoned someone exactly ? A thousand years ? When is the last time Christians hacked off hands or beheaded people for minor crimes ? When is the last time Christians, If ever, `Honor Killed `their daughters for apostasy or being to secular ?

    You`re overreaching in your claim that `fundamentalism` is ...the reason these heinous crimes against basic human rights continue to this day

    Real `fundamentalist` Christians are like the Amish and Mennonites, Pacifists, And no one could accuse them of human rights abuses.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    June 25, 2010 at 12:42 am
    vv Crackrjak, I`ll answer that in two parts, if I may.

    1) Tin-Foil Hat, I`ll agree. Not my words. George W Bush`s words. I`m not saying that he would have instigated global nuclear conflict, just saying that if it had started, he wasn`t the most qualified rational logical human being to do all in his power to stop it. It`s God`s will, after all. And again, he was the guy with the nuclear codes. THIS is the danger of electing fundamentalists to office, whatever their particular flavour of religious salivation .
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    June 25, 2010 at 12:43 am
    2) Disconcertingly, you speak of the belief in the Rapture as something that`s rational and normal. I`m concerned here about religious fundamentalists in positions of power... Are you seriously suggesting that I`ve got a warped view of extreme religiosity, and that the more balanced, level-headed Christians "believe in the rapture (That means Christians will be caught up in the air and meet the lord, Before the tribulation). The Tribulation will last for seven years and Armageddon will happen at the end of the tribulation. Then Christ will reign on earth for a thousand years."?

    If so, my friend, then I`m afraid I`m not the one that needs to get a grip. The Rapture? Seriously? I live my life by rationality, logic and observable evidence...

    Not your best post, Crakr. I`m afraid you may have made yourself look a bit unhinged with this one.
  71. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 25, 2010 at 1:04 am
    davymid: GW Bush never said that Nuclear war was inevitable or that it would be `God`s Will` if it happened. I believe you are misinterpreting.

    You also stated the world was `...in grave danger because the President... believed literally in... Armageddon`. Just because Christians believe in prophecy, Doesn`t mean they believe they have control over it. GW Bush overseen the destruction of thousands of nuclear weapons, American and Russian. He never escalated the risk of a nuclear war and he even fought against their proliferation.

    Are you really this phobic about a Christians as presidents or prime ministers ? You think rapture believing Christians are mentally ill ?

    You keep digging yourself into a hole with your phobias and irrational beliefs about Christians.

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    kinky_afr0 Male 18-29
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    June 25, 2010 at 1:22 am
    you are all gay, stop arguing and have a beer
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    June 25, 2010 at 1:31 am
    So we`re all over the whole 2012 end of the world thing now? Because everyone was all getting worried and scared and were making their last plans...you know...end of the world there...taking it so seriously...there was a movie about it...?

    No? All done with that toy then? Not playing with it anymore? Okay...
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    June 25, 2010 at 1:38 am
    You think rapture believing Christians are mentally ill ?
    I believe you were the one suggesting I seek psychological help for my obvious mental illness, 15 posts or so ago.

    I`m not the one claiming that the Rapture will occur, wherein Christians (only Christians, mind you!) will be caught up in the air and meet the Lord. That`s all before the Tribulation, which will last for seven years and Armageddon will happen at the end of the Tribulation. Then the returned-from-the-dead Christ will reign on earth for a thousand years.

    Dude. Have you listened to yourself? Seriously? And you were suggesting a while back that I might be mentally ill?

    I respectfully suggest we both stop posting now and meet again on the next debate. We`re just making a spectacle of ourselves here.
  75. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 25, 2010 at 2:06 am
    Davymid: I`m not the one claiming that the Rapture will occur..

    I`m not the only one here, Davy, That believes the rapture will occur. Trying to make me sound like some kind of loner nutjob only goes to prove how phobic you are of Christians and frankly it speaks volumes to how irrational your beliefs about us are. I asked you for some rational proof of your beliefs, Because what you typed was total tin foil hat moonbattery
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    Neyro Male 18-29
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    June 25, 2010 at 2:26 am
    This is HILLARIOUS. I`ll say no more lest I be tar and feathered.
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    Treadlong Male 18-29
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    June 25, 2010 at 2:53 am
    I know this thread is dying here but just one more thing from me. maybe 54% of americans do believe the bible to be a literal document but quite frankly actions speak louder that words. Nobody is beating my door down to save me from a LITERAL eternity of torture and misery beyond comprehension nor are these people acting in such a manner as to prevent a similair fate for themselves a lot may talk the talk but very few actually walk the walk. Love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek, let he who is without sin cast the first stone, most people only truly put their faith into practice when it is convenient or to prove a point, maybe just to play devils advocate. I don`t know much about christianity but didn`t David Burkowitz repent at the last minute? its just lip service. Religion has set mankind back a lot but its also given man a conscience when there is little earthly consequence for his actions. Imagine a world with no religion at all, all the ugliness is our fault as people.
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
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    June 25, 2010 at 3:33 am
    Jesus is back and he`s watching the world cup
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    Earl_Grey Female 18-29
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    June 25, 2010 at 3:42 am
    wow... and this is one of the leading world powers.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    June 25, 2010 at 3:51 am
    Did you know that, based on a Harvard study, 74% of all people will believe any statistic with a percentage in it?
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    June 25, 2010 at 4:40 am
    Man, that 41 percent is really going to be butt hurt when nothing happens in regards to that fictional character.
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    DogSoldier Male 18-29
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    June 25, 2010 at 5:18 am
    "To you I`m an atheist, but to God...I`m the loyal opposition" ;)

    I wonder when Jesus is supposed to come back when he doesn`t come in 2050. Same deal with the guys thinking doomsday in 1999/2000 i guess. "Gah, entering the new millenium didn`t do anything...let`s go with 2012 then!"

    Better luck in year 3000, Jesus.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    June 25, 2010 at 5:33 am
    Jesus is coming - look busy.
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 5:46 am
    @DogSoldier: They will simply keep pushing the date back endlessly. :p
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 5:54 am
    I`m not the only one here, Davy, That believes the rapture will occur. Trying to make me sound like some kind of loner nutjob only goes to prove how phobic you are of Christians and frankly it speaks volumes to how irrational your beliefs about us are. I asked you for some rational proof of your beliefs, Because what you typed was total tin foil hat moonbattery
    *sigh*
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 5:55 am
    Crackr, lemme make sure I`ve got this right. You believe that that all born-again Christians will one day simultaneously vanish into thin air, leaving piles of clothes on the ground and their cars to go driverless off the road. After this Twilight Zone-like opener, all hell will break loose for seven years, a titanic battle between God and his angels on one hand and an evil Beast on the other will rage on the ancient battleground of Armageddon in modern-day Israel, and Jesus will return riding in the clouds and reign in Jerusalem for a thousand years. Anyone who hasn’t already accepted Christ as his personal Lord and Savior beforehand will then be cast into a lake of fire to deep-fry forever.

    Yet I`m an irrational, possibly mentally ill tin-foil-hat wearing moonbat?
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    patchouly Male 40-49
    4746 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 6:01 am
    It amazes me how many folks continue to believe in religion, even though there is zero proof or evidence of any kind. You only believe it, because you grew up being told to believe it. That`s it. How can you base your life on that?!?

    More so, how can you account for all of the glaring error and inaccuracies in the Bible?

    And...don`t turn it around and say how can I believe science with it`s inaccuracies. Everything we know about science could be wrong, that doesn`t make religion correct.
  88. Profile photo of Massacre75
    Massacre75 Male 18-29
    25 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 6:12 am
    @Oystah Better yet.. Jesus is Coming.. Tell that chick to open her mouth.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
    4033 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 6:13 am
    In other religious news, yesterday, some village in India held a wedding for two frogs in order please a Hindu god so it would would bring needed rain to their area.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
    6694 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 6:26 am
    Why 2050? Why not 2060?
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
    3727 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 6:46 am
    MY JESUS:


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    elkingo Male 30-39
    5386 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 7:04 am
    Good grief Davy.. you sound like a paranoid conspiracy theorist. The Christians are out to get you? really?

    I can make a referral to a atheist therapist if you wish, I know quite a few in my line of work in the field of psychology.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
    5386 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 7:11 am
    "davymid: Also, you`ll appreciate that societies that force clitorectomies are human beings, yes, but the reason these heinous crimes against basic human rights continue to this day (it`s 2010, for f*ck sake) is purely because the people persecuting these crimes are doing so for fundamentally religious reasons. Subset of the former. In that case mainly Islamic, granted. But religious fervour is religious fervour, whatever particular brand of religion you happen to choose (or more likely, happen to have been born into). "


    Wow..just wow. You better get them before they get you huh? I mean really.. do you even know what this sounds like? I mean, you may find several people to agree with you.

    You need to think about your emotions involved here, and ask yourself, is this a rational conclusion? I believe you are emotionally driven man, and you should really sit back and ask yourself if that is what is best.
  94. Profile photo of pmarren
    pmarren Male 40-49
    4575 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 7:14 am
    If he does show up, I am SO gonna kick him in the balls as hard as I can.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
    4033 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 7:15 am
    vv LOL!
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 7:27 am
    Haha Elkingo, no. I`m quietly confident that a christian is not going to sneak into my house some night and cut off my clitoris.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    June 25, 2010 at 7:42 am

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    elkingo Male 30-39
    5386 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 7:43 am
    davy, how many women have you ran into that a Christian has removed her clit?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36187 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 8:27 am
    I don`t bother with the end of the world as there isn`t much I can do to prevent it {however it comes about}.

    I`m just tired of Christrians {and now muslims} trying to legislate their faith and value system on me.

    Churches should not be Political Entities. When they do, they go astray.

    Jesus never said "Hey Peter, let`s get a law passed through the Roman Senate to put our God in the schools"

    `nuff said
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36187 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 8:29 am
    elkingo . . . I don`t know about women losing things, but I`ve met quite a few Men who had their balls taken away by a Woman.
  101. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 8:38 am
    davymid: I don`t know exactly how the rapture will happen, No one does. Nor does anyone know when this will happen, As I stated very early on in this thread. It may not happen in our lifetimes or even our children`s lifetimes.

    What is weird is your paranoia of Christians, As if you believe we are all planning to make it happen. I can assure you no human being will direct the timing, It`s in God`s hands and we will not know when.

  102. Profile photo of tenty
    tenty Male 18-29
    425 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 9:03 am
    surveyed 1546 people? that`s not alot to represent all of America, plus it would be biased if they were all from Texas.
  103. Profile photo of Lolboy
    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 9:56 am
    Davy: I understand why you said the human species is in danger, but maybe it was a bit much.

    HOWEVER, when confronted with the utter ridiculousness of the rapture, nobody is denying their belief in it. Not even a "Oh yeah that does sound pretty drating retarded now that I think about it." How can anybody with a semi-rational mind look at that situation with any kind of legitimacy.



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    pizzaroll Male 18-29
    232 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 10:13 am
    Well, I`m a Christian, and way contrary to the apparent popular belief around here, I actually don`t blame anything on this planet on God. In fact, according to the Bible, neither God nor Lucifer will have any effect at all on this planet until armageddon. I also don`t believe it`s right to attack someone over their beliefs, whether it`s someone believing in another religion, or someone not believing in any religion. Truth be told, I don`t give a flying f*ck what happens to any of you. You could all die tomorrow and it wouldn`t effect me in the least. With that said, I`m not trying to turn you, because I don`t give a damn about your "eternal soul". I simply feel that it would be dishonorable to not explain myself. So why do I believe when I clearly don`t give a damn? Logic. That`s really all there is to it. On the one hand, I have a hard time believing religion for no reason at all, but on the other hand, I`m not so stupid that I refuse to believe in something that there is n
  105. Profile photo of pizzaroll
    pizzaroll Male 18-29
    232 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 10:18 am
    ... I simply believe because logically speaking, it is the absolute best choice in this situation. I have no proof, and yet a sh*t ton of reasons telling me that I should still believe, and accept. Now, at the max, my lifespan will be very unlikely to reach past 110 years. I`m figuring, that after about age 50, based on my families genetics, I`ll probably have minor health problems that will only continue to grow over time, making my last 20-30 years hell on earth. According to the Bible, all of that will be behind me when I am revived for Christs 1000 year reign on Earth. So... I can live, in a perfect body, with a perfect mind, for 1000 years? thats at least 10 times my current life expectancy, and in a perfect mind and body. All I have to do is live by the morals and values that I already had anyways, and believe that Jesus existed, and died for our sins. That`s a hell of alot of motivation for something so small.
  106. Profile photo of Lolboy
    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 10:41 am
    Pizzaroll: You say you follow Christ because you`re essentially following morals that you already possess. Do those morals include murdering, plundering, and pillaging? I understand that Christ was supposed to be the "lamb of God", but that doesn`t erase the fact that you follow a God that has, in actual scripture, "commanded" his followers on numerous occasions to invade cities, or perhaps if you prefer, abuse of women in that society.

    Also, what is your case for the glaring inaccuracies and contradictions? I find that many Christians, since my family is full of them, seem to pick and choose what they believe from their own holy book.
  107. Profile photo of Tonyjet
    Tonyjet Male 18-29
    3299 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 11:17 am
    ", we still want to stick around until 2050 so we can see Jesus talk to a computer!"

    That made me laugh
  108. Profile photo of Lolcats
    Lolcats Male 18-29
    369 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 11:18 am
    Here let me help you...

    Religious: How can you prove it`s real?
    Atheists: How can you prove it`s fake?
  109. Profile photo of Lolcats
    Lolcats Male 18-29
    369 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 11:19 am
    inb4 faith/logic
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
    5196 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 12:22 pm
    >>I simply believe because logically speaking, it is the absolute best choice in this situation.

    Funny, the Muslims say the same thing about their religion. Say they freely chose it and it was the best choice blah blah blah. More than 99% of you "freely choose" the exact same religion you were born into. Obviously you are lying to yourselves.
  111. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 1:07 pm
    Crakr, I`m not paranoid of Christians. I`m paranoid of religious fundamentalists, whatever particular flavour they happen to be. Bad things can happen when religious fundamentalism becomes widespread, especially when it gains a position of power.
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    DarkFerret Male 18-29
    2750 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    i wanna see jesus talk to a computer... and jesus and chuck norris duke it out
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    Raokin Female 18-29
    456 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 3:17 pm
    I wonder what the results would be if they asked Americans whether they believed the world would end in 2012.
  114. Profile photo of Raokin
    Raokin Female 18-29
    456 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 3:24 pm
    "Bad things can happen when religious fundamentalism becomes widespread, especially when it gains a position of power."

    When you look at atheistic totalitarian states, they tend to replace traditional religion with personality cults surrounding their leaders. Fundamentalism doesn`t require a belief in any god. Worshipping a living person is creepier than worshipping a non-existant god and worse in many ways.
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    ThatWasFunny Male 18-29
    702 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 3:35 pm
    Haha, I love Pew polls...
  116. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 4:24 pm
    davymid: IF that`s your way of saying your afraid of Theocracies, I can understand that.

    Saying your afraid of a leader that`s a Christian fundamentalist is just paranoid. Seriously, We don`t bite.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    Raokin: You made a good point.

    Stalin, Mao, Kim Il Sung, Che Guevara, Castro, Hugo Cahvez, Kim Jong Il, etc...
    All brutal dictators, All communists, All very scary.
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
    3599 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 5:39 pm
    haha i wonder what a conversation would be like between jesus and a computer? and if the computer was intelligent enough to be self-aware, would jesus try to save it`s sould?
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
    3599 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 5:39 pm
    *soul
  120. Profile photo of Luv2Snowbord
    Luv2Snowbord Male 18-29
    20 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 9:17 pm
    Where do people get these crazy ass pole statistics? 84% of these things are complete bogus.
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    LtFurpie Male 30-39
    1014 posts
    June 25, 2010 at 11:01 pm
    How can a ficticious being come back???

    ... oh wait... that`s right... sql.
  122. Profile photo of Owanie
    Owanie Male 18-29
    240 posts
    June 26, 2010 at 1:10 am
    Sure, go ask people not living in the suburbs, see what they think. Statistics are so much fun when they`re so very lame.
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    Prejudiced Female 18-29
    250 posts
    June 26, 2010 at 4:13 am
    "haha i wonder what a conversation would be like between jesus and a computer? and if the computer was intelligent enough to be self-aware, would jesus try to save it`s sould?"

    If I remember right the bible says only humans have souls (so no other animals, plants etc do if we follow this) which would bean a Ai computer wouldn`t either I guess if you follow the Bible?

    Ten bucks says we get a terminator vs Raptor Jesus showdown. I`d pay to see that.
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    screwzlooose Male 30-39
    385 posts
    June 26, 2010 at 6:03 am
    he might make it by 2050... but then, the tranformer wars of 2025 might make it pointless..... or reality? well, you asked if a fictional character was coming back?

    can we have the return of Thor instead? i like him as a "born on dec 25" heliocentric diety anyway....
    or maybe horus, ya, i liked the horus story better than the jesus one!
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    June 26, 2010 at 7:09 am
    LOL I just read this article that says 41 percent of all Americans are stupid.
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    Mikeado Male 18-29
    2160 posts
    June 26, 2010 at 8:19 am
    I believe that in the year 2048, we will be at war with the machines, win by a slim margin and witness the whole world collapsing inwards at the North Pole. A sign will pop out saying "Loading Level 2. Please Wait..."

    Then we get a whole different set of problems and a fresh Earth to deal with. Our score would be medium, because we conquered the robots and kept just enough people alive, but the Earth we were supposed to protect took some quite heavy damage. Unfortunately there`s a huge cut scene and then we go straight into Lv. 2, so we can`t turn down the difficulty setting :(

    I wonder what Level 2 will be like...?
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    Raberboom Male 18-29
    833 posts
    June 26, 2010 at 4:06 pm
    Pshh i met Jesus cutting the hedges next door yesterday.
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    Raberboom Male 18-29
    833 posts
    June 26, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    every page i go to CrakrJak is posting up a storm arguing with everyone else.
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    adia1228 Female 30-39
    83 posts
    June 26, 2010 at 6:00 pm
    (scoffs) Don`t think he has a choice the way things are going now.
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    defiythelie Male 18-29
    230 posts
    June 26, 2010 at 7:55 pm
    TOO damn many ignoranuses that how many.

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