Cool Solution To Clean Up The Gulf Oil

Submitted by: CrakrJak 6 years ago Science

Ingenious idea to clean up Gulf oil spill using hay and straw. Future Nobel winners?
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Male 112
I was honestly freaked the drat out when the person that cut my hair told me that it would be sent to the gulf to soak up oil...
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Female 109
BOOMER!
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Male 422
But....the oil is still flowing out?
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Male 609
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Male 609
There are many more efficient and effective oil absorbents and dispersants than hay that are also more efficient to transport. Hay absorbs water other dispersants only absorb the oil.

After getting the hay out there ships aren`t equipped to get it back up, so you also assume all the hay will wash ashore, which is simply an unsupportable assumption. One of the worries about the spill is that it may get carried across the Atlantic by the Gulf stream. The last thing we needs is 40K tns of oil clinging to millions of tons of hay floating across the ocean toward Europe.
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Female 131
what about the oil that`s underneath the water? it`s a good idea, though, but it won`t get all the oil. it`s better than anything that bp is trying though.
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Male 5,194
Couldn`t be any worse than golf balls.
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Male 2,402
Well djcs....why doesn`t BP use your Australian brilliant method!? That not only makes the rednecks dumb, but the Dutch, British, and Arabs etc.... also. You ever thought that maybe these oil companies did do the research and found it to be failure on mass usage! Arrogant f**k!
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Female 646
"What do you do with the oil-soaked hay/straw?"

B-| Well, if you`d been listening, they say you could burn it for fuel.

I think this is an amazing idea and these men should be commended!
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Male 1,371
It is going to take a while to get all of the oily hay out of the ocean.
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Male 14,330
[quote]What do you do with the oil-soaked hay/straw?[/quote]



Give it all to me so I can devise a way to make it into fuel pellets and become filthy rich!
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Male 5,620
@djcs Apparently you are as biased as you are ignorant. Enretech Australasia Pty Ltd utilizes, and I quote from their website, "a cellulose waste stream from the cotton industry". How the hell do you propose we grow enough cotton to make that a viable solution?
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Male 5,620
Biomass Energy for kids

They rednecks in the video already came up with a viable solution as to what to do with the oil soaked hay. Biomass Energy Plants can be utilized, to not only get rid of the hay and provide a lot of semi-free energy, but also produce that energy greener than coal fired plants.
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Male 5,620
Oldollie, "Great idea! Now, all we have to do is figure out how we are going to come up with half a million tons of hay. (I did the math.)"

Your not very good at math then.. lets us double your estimate. 1 million tons of hay is 10k round bales.

Kentucky Hay Saves Florida Cattle

Note: Florida`s normal hay production alone is over half a million tons a year.

The problem isn`t growing the hay, the problem is transporting it to the gulf.
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Female 838
@djcs

In what way does this make them stupid? They are attempting a solution to a catastrophe that seems to have possibilities. If the company you spoke of is so reputable and effective why are they not in the gulf cleaning up the mess.
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Male 10
They are idiots.
I get really frustrated when i see crap like like this. There is a company in Moss Vale, Australia, called Enretech(tell em DJ sent ya ;), that already has an environmentally friendly solution for capturing and disposal of oil spills. Any decent fuel station or mechanical workshop in Australia will have one of their spill kits.
Why try and reinvent the wheel. These guys have done it and proven that it works.
Too many stupid ppl in the world thinking they have "The Solution" without doin the research first.

DJ
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Female 150
last time i promise learn about farming hay and straw aren`t the same thing. jackass. ([email protected]@ss)
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Female 150
also n70 thank you for knowing about science and buoyancy we should kill all the stupid people we would be better off without them.
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Female 150
@razlem what do they do with all the sea water contaminated oil and the dish soap filled oil they wash off seagulls? wash it down the drain? I`m serious someone please tell me. with a link to a reputable source of information.
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Female 32
@trippyhippy9
How would the oil-soaked hay sink? Both elements are lighter than water.
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Male 15,832
Great idea! Now, all we have to do is figure out how we are going to come up with half a million tons of hay. (I did the math.)
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Female 547
Yeah, this is cool and all, but we need to stop the leak first.
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Male 559
Trying to clean this up with hay would kill more sea life than it would save. Hay will float, but hay soaked with oil will not.
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Male 533
This does not solve the problem. The problem is a mile underwater, not on the surface.

What do you do with the oil-soaked hay/straw?

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Male 1,451
Sure, it works small scale, and yes, there are some places with an overabundance of hay, but it`s not practical large scale. That round bale picture you posted will pick up about a quart of oil, if that. It is gushing thousands of gallons. I`ll admit, it`d be a good way to clean up a little bit, but let`s focus on STOPPING THE LEAK!
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Female 467
awesome
wonder would it absorb the blue waffle liquid off a hooker?
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Female 41
am i the only one genuinley astounded at how simple this was?
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Male 476
Well get to it then!!!!!!
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Male 845
sooo... BP can go ahead and make that multi-billion dollar check out to Celm&Gus of Clem&Gus`s Hay Co.
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Male 877
30 years ago great idea...now its hindpoo!
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Male 1,064
Then all the seahorses and sea-cows eat the hay, resulting in the genocide of these unfortunately named creatures.
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Male 1,064
Then all the seahorses and sea-cows eat the hay, resulting in the genocide of these unfortunately named creatures.
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Female 1,427
"Just goes to show you that rednecks aren`t as ignorant as people would like to think. God I love the south - this is going on my facebook. "

Same here.

Rednecks are ignorant. However, ignorance isn`t stupidity; the two are entirely different things.

So yes, rednecks ARE ignorant, but they`re not all stupid. This is a smart idea using material and experience they`ve probably personally had.

Most people in cities are ignorant of farming techniques, but you don`t assume they`re stupid.
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Male 1,625
There are plenty of ways to clean up the BP spill. Kevin costner has a machine that separates oil and sea water. The hay idea, oil tankers, its just BP still wants to cap the well so they can try again later. The reason more isnt being done is greed, plain and simple.
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Male 5,620
The thing is, here in Kentucky most farmers don`t harvest the hay because the is an extreme over abundance of it. My in-laws for example let over 150 round bales go to waste last year because there was literally no demand for it. 10 bucks a round bale.


Like this size bale.. 150 of them.. they were worth only about 8 bucks a bale last year. Not worth harvesting.

Plus, I agree.. it isn`t like it couldn`t be used in refitted pulp burning coal power plants. It would be a win-win for our economy - especially if we burn the hay for energy.
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Male 65
future nobel prize winners indead.
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Male 5,620
RPossum
Male, 18-29, Canada,"Unfortunately the hay to oil ratio is too high. That was basically a half cup of oil for a full box of hay."

Yeah.. In Canada that may have been a lot of hay, but we produce a sh|t load of hay here. That "full box of hay" is less than I rake out of my yard when I mow.
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Male 5,620
Just goes to show you that rednecks aren`t as ignorant as people would like to think. God I love the south - this is going on my facebook.
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Female 224
hmm, it could definitely help. makes you wonder what else there is thats not being seriously considered...
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Male 300
Shoot, this has been out there for over a month, but at the rate BP is going, I`m sure that will be their "next" backup plan once they get done with the Waterworld spinny things they bought from Kostner.
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Male 15
I agree with Handsompod. The size of the oil spill is near the size of Jamaica. We wouldn`t have enough hay to cover it all. However, i also agree with Igmo in that even if we can get some of it up it`s a good idea. Plus, if the government buys the straw from the farmers, there is a huge way to produce jobs and revenue to the working class.
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Male 1,263
I think they should at least try it. It could work.
Besides, even if the method doesn`t clean ALL of the oil, a small percentage of it makes a big difference.
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Male 1,108
Could we actually grow enough hay to soak up 12000 barrels a day of oil? It`s a great idea in principle but the logistics would be a nightmare.
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Male 49
They should do this :D
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Male 1,122
Unfortunately the hay to oil ratio is too high. That was basically a half cup of oil for a full box of hay.
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Male 1,311
Damn, a redneck with a good idea, and it doesn`t even involve his sister and a power tool. I`m impressed!
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Male 415
And we thought red necks were dumb :|
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Female 1,435
a big sponge! and call it operation sponge!
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Male 12,138
Hmm, interesting.
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Male 25,416
The method is old, but it does work!
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Male 17,512
rigby_321: It`s called a surf rake, It easily cleans beaches of seaweed and other debris.

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Female 2,289
I actually had that idea in my head about two week ago.
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Male 1,598
Awesome. Now we can have a Jamaca sized oil spill covered in hay!!!
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Female 443
Wait ... How do we clean up all the oily hay?
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Female 16
This method is years old...
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Female 4
I think the big question is (particularly if you`re shooting this idea down) - can you come up with something better?

Agree with taylor_stone here. My grandfather was a hay farmer and it is readily available around the world, not including the different types of hay that are in season at different times of the year.

If this works, isn`t it worth a chance? It`s not like anything else they`re doing is working.

Let`s look at some facts. For every acre, if you cut the hay twice in a season, depending on the type of hay you can get 1-3 tonnes of hay. Keep in mind this is an approximated number... some will give more, some will give less. However, it is doable.

This is good for the farmers too, economically speaking.
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Male 22
"yes lets throw some more flammable material into the water with the oil. I can see this turning out very bad when one of his dumb hick workers throwing a lit cigarette overboard"

when`s the last time you tried to light wet hay on fire? Sure, it would be coated in oil, but the oil by itself is already flammable... so adding hay won`t do anything to increase the danger if a dumb hick tosses his lit cigarette overboard.
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Male 22
@crabcakes

"Hay production in the United States exceeds 150 million tons per year."

http://tinyurl.com/dl6lz4
(sry URL was too long, IAB didn`t want any single word longer than 40 characters)

so by your estimates: if you only need 5.8 million tons, then you`re only asking for ~3% of the annual US hay production. I wouldn`t consider that a major hurdle by any means, but perhaps that`s just me.
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Male 40
You can use people`s hair. Just get 100 million americans to shave their heads, and you get to solve your problem
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Male 2,688
"5.8 MILLION TONS of hay"

I`m pretty sure farms around the country can work up twice that amount in a mater of a few weeks. The farm I grew up on probably produced 10 or 12 tons in a season... Not counting how much we had to start with. Not to mention we could get it from all over the world...
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Female 1,534
@crabcakes

its better than nothing
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Male 226
"Does anyone have any idea how much hay that would take? A quarter pound to soak up a about a square foot and a half?"

Last estimate I saw was the spill covers an area of about 2,500 square mile, or ~70 BILLION square feet.

At a quarter-pound of hay per 1.5 square feet, that`s ~5.8 MILLION TONS of hay.

Does it work? Yes.

Is it feasible?

Not drating likely.
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Male 18
yes lets throw some more flammable material into the water with the oil. I can see this turning out very bad when one of his dumb hick workers throwing a lit cigarette overboard
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Female 254
@jendrian why wouldn`t we need lots and lots of metal spoons or perhaps one giant pair of blue overalls?
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Male 2,516
awesome!, now we just need a giant metal spoon and lots and lots of blue overalls
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Male 537
Does anyone have any idea how much hay that would take? A quarter pound to soak up a about a square foot and a half?
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Male 17,512
jamesrs: Nationwide, hay stocks
have totaled 20.9 million tons so far this year.
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Male 129
i say burn it baby!!
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Male 85
this has been known for years! i was taught it in school 3 years ago but it wont help because theres to much oil and not enough hay
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Female 798
Frankii, a lot of salons are already donating hair to oil clean-up, and also a girl I know recently cut off all her hair to donate it. I wouldn`t recommend cutting your hair off though, like you said the salons have plenty to donate.
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Male 17,512
bliznik: It`s never been tried at all and there hasn`t been a spill of this magnitude since Saddam Hussien and the 1st Gulf War (They didn`t have straw there to even try it).
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Male 7,378
This would be beneficial in so many ways. Would be a giant boost to farmers. They could hire fisherman to distribute hay and hire others to clean up the washed up oily hay. Win win! But like meepmaker said; plugging the leak must come first.
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Male 1,308
They`ve studied this before, and it won`t work in real-world conditions of this magnitude.
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Female 250
"Good idea in theory but good luck
A) gathering enough straw and hay to cover the entire area and the subsea oil swirling around
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B) scooping it all up again"

A) Straw would be more cost effective and is produced from the stubble of crops. Theirs so much of it around and its not a great animal feed (its mainly used to make particle board now anyway) so I can`t see it being too hard to get.

B) Not hard to do. Use large nets and trawl sections, scooping the straw/oil out and leaving the water behind.

A similar technique was used here on a small spill.
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Male 76
One hand full does a half cup of oil...how many hand fulls do you need for the, approximately 1,184,000,000 cups of oil?

2,368,000,000 i would have thought, assuming your figures are correct...they are just having a try at it...better that than nothing eh?
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Male 4,807
This is a new or ingenious idea? .... ummm Okaaay
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Male 363
Good idea in theory but good luck
A) gathering enough straw and hay to cover the entire area and the subsea oil swirling around
and
B) scooping it all up again
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Male 17,512
jamie76: They`d use straw blowers.


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Male 17,512
patchouly: A lot, But there are many tons of it and it`s very inexpensive. Also, It`s a lot easier to clean up as traditional seaweed remediation equipment can pick it up off the beaches.
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Female 2,509
And then we`ll grab a couple of beers and have a big ole bonfire!
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Male 15,510
I hope they dont... silence them... now
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Male 4,746
One hand full does a half cup of oil...how many hand fulls do you need for the, approximately 1,184,000,000 cups of oil?
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Male 634
Lol these guys actually think they are the first ones to think about using hay to clean up oil.

This technique was used back in 1969 in Santa Barbara oil spill.

www.rense.com/general90/barb.htm
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Male 142
wow thats pretty amazing.
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Male 2,345
holy crap is that for real????? and could they get enough of this stuff to do the job? also, how would they disperse it?
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Male 1,793
Bubba science....
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Male 4,594
Hair works? Then we should toss in millions of cats. Environmental too because after the cats have mopped-up all the oil, we could skin them and use them for shark chum.
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Female 322
Farmers in Kansas have used this for years and years to clean up little spills.
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Female 437
I heard somewhere that hair works well, surely all of the floor sweepings from hairdressers in America would do it?
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Female 58
ATTN: BP- Quit screwing around and listen to the man in the overalls!
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Male 798
Seems pretty legit.

Is he going to whip up some good ol` fashioned country BBQ now?

Man that sounds good.
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Male 394
No one that fat, ugly and with that accent can be Nobel prize winner smart.

Case in point.
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Male 6,694
If it works it works but it wont stop the oil from coming. Lets plug the hole then clean up the mess.
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Male 17,512
Link: Cool Solution To Clean Up The Gulf Oil [Rate Link] - Ingenious idea to clean up Gulf oil spill using hay and straw. Future Nobel winners?
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