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  1. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 13, 2010 at 8:14 am
    Link: The Wacky Mohammed Image Archive - It wasn`t always illegal to draw Mohammed, now forget about it.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 9:30 am
    South Park keeps trying.

    This time they almost got bombed.
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    NoArms5534 Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 9:34 am
    A link to zombietime on i-am-bored? Consider me one happy potato!
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    Nerd_Rage Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 9:35 am
    you`re right! It`s NOT illegal. ITS BLASPHEMOUS. HERESY, HERESY I SAY!
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    alley228 Female 18-29
    238 posts
    May 16, 2010 at 9:43 am
    Be careful, I sense Revolution Muslim right around the corner.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 9:53 am
    It`s not "illegal" now. Corporations it turns out are spineless, chickenpoops.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 9:56 am
    It`s illegal under shiria law, and for some reason here in America we have to appease everyone.
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    jayme21 Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:02 am
    It isn`t illegal as site points out used to be done in islamic world as well. But RIP I-Am-Bored you will be getting some abuse for this i reckon.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:03 am
    What are they gonna do jayme? e-bomb us?
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:06 am
    A Jihad on IAB!
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    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:08 am
    I`m going to pitch a film:

    Modern muslim terrorists use a time machine to go back in time and kill the people who painted mohammed hundreds of years ago...

    It`s called "BACK TO THE FATWA"
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:08 am
    I`ll see your jihad, and raise you a thermonuclear weapon.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:16 am
    I`m pretty sure the reason they get so upset was that originally they didn`t want people worshiping the image of him and making him into an idol. Not 100% on that but after seeing what people have done to Jesus I can understand why they wouldn`t want their idea of Mohamed to go that route.

    But for the record the paintings make him out to be quite classy. So if they keep that up, it`ll be fine.
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    Salted_Eggs Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:20 am
    "Mohammed, along with Buraq and Gabriel, visit Hell, and see a demon punishing "shameless women" who had exposed their hair to strangers. For this crime of inciting lust in men, the women are strung up by their hair and burned for eternity. Persian, 15th century. "

    Religion is weeeird...
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    IRockYeah Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:42 am
    There should be images of Mohammed strapping a bomb to his back and running into a McDonalds.

    The child molesting, murderous bastard.

    And before anyone starts yes Im ignorant. So bite me
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    bigbangbilly Male 13-17
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:55 am
    ha
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    Turtlestyl Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:58 am
    DO NOT DRAW A PICTURE OF ME!! yeah real loving Mohammed wanna be god. I am sick of this MY GOD IS BETTER THEN YOUR GOD crap.. I don`t really belive in a Christian god either so....
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    Molehouse Male 13-17
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:03 am
    Technically Muslims shouldn`t do drawings of anything living, because t s recreating Allah`s work.

    They should stop trying to enforce their belief on others.
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    evanstonian8 Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:10 am
    If ultimately the human race winds up killing itself the odds are best that it will be an angry Muslim behind the trigger.
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    Shahar102 Female 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:17 am
    @RAGEMONSTER
    now that just being a jerk >_>
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    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:27 am
    RAGEMONSTER. Please don`t insult my proud and noble people by including this mythological figure as one of us.

    Or did you mean the South Park definition? LOL
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:29 am
    RAGEMONSTER, please don`t use that word here. Just cause it`s not filtered, doesn`t mean it`s acceptable.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:30 am
    what was the point of that?
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:37 am
    "They should stop trying to enforce their belief on others."

    They can`t help it, they`re just so used to it. Back when Islam was founded, that`s how they spread their religion, through military conquest. And Christians get crap for the crusades...

    Muslim Conquests on Wikipedia
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:40 am
    what did ragemonster say? i wanna know. someone tell me in a pg way.
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    Molehouse Male 13-17
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:44 am
    I`m just saying that as a Christian I believe some weird stuff too, I don`t send death threats to people for not conforming to my way of thinking. There are people from all religions who do that sort of thing, but it just appears to be more prominent in Islam
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:44 am
    That was a bit tame IAB..I was expecting at least one muhammed with a wooden leg and a laser beam attached to his head riding a unicycle made out of chickennuggets.
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    kitka_1994 Male 13-17
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:53 am
    I just sure black blocks with censord writen on it.
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    ZNaught Male 13-17
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:08 pm
    inb4fancyladkilledbymuslumextremists
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:12 pm
    Molehouse says "I`m just saying that as a Christian "..... " it just appears to be more prominent in Islam"

    Exactly how did the christians convert the native people in the new world? by FORCE that`s how. Islam is no more violent than the christian faith.

    Religions bite. All of them.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:14 pm
    what did ragemonster say? i wanna know. someone tell me in a pg way.

    It`s like a puzzle. We know there is a mythological figure involved, and an insulting word/term that would not be censored. Also said mythological figure was in a South Park episode. My curiosity is piqued!
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:26 pm
    Exactly how did the christians convert the native people in the new world? by FORCE that`s how. Islam is no more violent than the christian faith.

    That is not true! Most initial missionaries came to America with a very peaceful approach to converting natives. A lot of them put themselves at serious risk and dreamed of being martyred in their pursuits. It was only through their ignorance about epidemia that they infected thousands. Later, due to cultural conflicts, christians persecuted natives but they had abandoned any notions on converting them.

    There was only once recorded instance where disease was weaponized to kill natives (disease infested blankets were distributed) and that was a military initiative. In fact, pretty much all aggressive take-overs of land were political or military, not religious.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:40 pm
    I`ll put a Jihad on you!
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    kitka_1994 Male 13-17
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:43 pm
    "That is not true! Most initial missionaries came to America with a very peaceful approach to converting natives."
    Im prity sure the jesuits (catholic extreamists) mascared tribes pepole in south america to save there soles or somthing silly like that, i know there is somthing about it in volitares candid (good read if any one gets a chance) a preety misgueded fing to do but thats misonrys for you all religons have some extream sect even budits
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    saaytin Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:44 pm
    As a non-practicing muslim, I found this quite interesting. Islam has really gone backwards. During the pophet`s time women prayed in the same room as men and there was way more tolerance about other religions and generally everything then there is now. I blame it on the Mongols.
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    aseirinn Male 70 & Over
    877 posts
    May 16, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    is anyone gettin Déjà vu here?
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    DeathToLems Female 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:55 pm
    Nope thats not him. He was kinda rectangle looking and was a solid black color with some kinda writing written down the front of his clothing, I think the words were Islamic but It might has said Censord. I`m not quite sure, but I`m pretty sure thats what I last saw
  38. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    @kitka_1994

    I`d not heard about that, but Africa is not the new world. The Jesuits who arrived in North America were much more self-abasing and extremely passive in their method of conversion.

    Gerry1of1:

    Actually you`re dead on when it came to the Spanish arriving in Central and South America. They did force the natives to convert and went to great lengths to destroy all the religious material they could find. This was not the case in North America though. It was generally a situation where they came, they infected, and then they occupied the land after the damage was done. The christian method of conversion wasn`t to use force, but to scare them into believing their immortal souls were in jeopardy of eternal damnation.
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    fabarati Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:57 pm
    From our very own Sister site, #4.

    That entire article is worth a read, but the jist of my point is that this fundamentalism that`s spreading, started not so long ago.

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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:58 pm
    arrrgggghhhh! i didnt see. i didnt see!
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 12:59 pm
    As a non-practicing muslim, I found this quite interesting. Islam has really gone backwards. During the pophet`s time women prayed in the same room as men and there was way more tolerance about other religions and generally everything then there is now. I blame it on the Mongols.

    Apart from the Islamic crusades to force people to convert to Islam. Kind of a big thing for you (or anyone) to overlook.

    Islam under Mohammed might well have been less power-hungry and savage, but that ended with his death.

    Medieval Islam had become a lot more tolerant and much less violent, sexist and generally bigoted, but war with Christianity encouraged fanaticism on both sides (no surprises there). But both sides became more moderate later.

    Islam has only been as extreme as it now is from the mid 20th century, following the rather odd embracing of Wahhabism (which was pretty much ignored during its founder`s life).
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    tvremote Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 1:03 pm
    "That is not true! Most initial missionaries came to America with a very peaceful approach to converting natives."
    Im prity sure the jesuits (catholic extreamists) mascared tribes pepole in south america to save there soles or somthing silly like that, i know there is somthing about it in volitares candid (good read if any one gets a chance) a preety misgueded fing to do but thats misonrys for you all religons have some extream sect even budits

    What is this abortion of text?
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    apermal Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 1:10 pm
    "Im prity sure the jesuits (catholic extreamists) mascared tribes pepole in south america to save there soles or somthing silly like that, i know there is somthing about it in volitares candid (good read if any one gets a chance) a preety misgueded fing to do but thats misonrys for you all religons have some extream sect even budits"

    Umm, what? I`m still trying to figure out if its English before I call out a 13-17 year old saying `I`m pretty sure its the Jesuits`.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 1:17 pm
    What is this abortion of text?

    Something about putting make-up on the eyelashes of people in south America. Weird stuff. Maybe they thought it blocked the alien mind-altering rays (they didn`t have tinfoil back then).
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    janus_games Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 1:19 pm
    @brassbull Sorry there buddy. It is true. Some initial missionaries came to America with a very peaceful approach. Most came with a sizable military presence, and their behavior was so horrific that quite a few lost their lives as soon as the armed forces left. You say it was only through ignorance that they killed and infected thousands, but they kept the practice up for several hundred years, sorry that`s not ignorance. It`s not ignorance when you notice your natives getting sick everywhere you go and you keep going places.
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    janus_games Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 1:51 pm
    jesuits (catholic extreamists)

    Wha!?!? No. Really, go ahead and pull out the old radical `Extreme Jesuit Oath` which has been debunked several times.

    The Jesuits were actually one of the few catholic orders that generally followed common sense at the time. They were the best educated, and they had provisions in place meant to keep them from abusing power.

    Understand that their papal suppression was likely due to protecting the native populations from the Spanish and Portuguese. Reference Ruiz de Montoya I think.

    Granted, they were still pox bringers, but I can say they meant well most of the time in the new world and backed it up.
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    kitka_1994 Male 13-17
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    May 16, 2010 at 2:06 pm
    @janus_games iv actully just done like five minutes of study on the jesuits (wikipidiea) and discover that in most cases they were the only thing standing between in slavment by the spanish and portugise. they wernt great but much better than the impiralists
  48. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 2:14 pm
    Most came with a sizable military presence

    Not in North America. Business interests like the London Company often employed military men to lead charters in the colonies to protect their interests. As the amount of settlers grew, so did the need for a military presence. Missionaries were not affiliated with the military, even if they worked in places with a strong military presence.

    but they kept the practice up for several hundred years, sorry that`s not ignorance.

    No, it was never a "practice" to infect natives. It happened intentionally once and that was a military action. The spread of disease amongst the native Americans happened very rapidly, not over several hundred years. By the time they were aware of it the damage was done. Further expansion then was a military campaign and was followed by the missionaries who were only trying to save as many natives as possible.
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    j-allan Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 2:26 pm
    If I`m not mistaken, the South Park episode called "Super Best Friends" showed muhammed with no big fanfare. Why censor it now?
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    AppleBlue Female 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 2:32 pm
    why does his horse have a lady`s head?
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    simim23 Female 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 3:36 pm
    "I`ll put a Jihad on you!"

    Correct term is "fatwa"

    lololol
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    Just a bunch of gringos not getting the way an ancient culture (way more ancient than them) see the world
  53. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 4:19 pm
    Angilion: Islam turned `Extreme` before WW2, The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem made it so. You can blame Western Europeans for suppression of native peoples, But it was the Grand Mufti that invented genocide.

    "Remember, Abbady, this was and will remain an Arab land. We do not mind you natives of the country, but those alien invaders, the Zionists, will be massacred to the last man. We want no progress, no prosperity. Nothing but the sword will decide the fate of this country." - The Grand Mufti, 1920

    Had his extremism been cut off then, Perhaps things would be different today. But instead the Italians then Hitler`s Germany funded him, Trained an army for his use, And armed them to the teeth. Since then, There has been no reasoning with `Palestinians`, Wahhabists, The Bath party, The Turks, or Most other Middle-eastern Muslim sects over Israel.

    Until The antisemitism ceases in the Muslim religion there will be no peace there, In the middle-east.
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    SuperSmash Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    Looks like what Jesus probably really looked like.
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    janus_games Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 4:38 pm
    @kitka yeah, that`s pretty much what I said. I think they meant well.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    I didn`t click on the link. No point taking chances :-)
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 5:05 pm
    Btw, For the record, The word `Wacky` was added to the title I submitted.

    I`ve recently had to learn that you can`t trust that neither the title nor the comment underneath are directly attributable to the submitter of the post.

    So, Everyone, Don`t assume anything in the title or comment came from the submitter. Fancy and the Mods can change anything in the submission to suit them.
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    jondegi Female 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 5:40 pm
    I`m tired of everyone thinking that every Muslim lost their shiz over the south park debacle, when it really was only one extremist fringe group consisting of 2-10 people.

    By the way, extremism only seems prominent in Islam because that`s what the media decide to show us all the time.

    Please go here if you`re interested. It explains a lot. :)
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 5:59 pm
    ...don`t know if anyone has brought this up yet, but there is a "draw mohammed day" on May 20th - in protest to the muslim attacks. It`s even got a facebook group.
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    Norris Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 6:06 pm
    Yea Crakr thats why i just type whatever, because i know theyll just change it
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    janus_games Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 6:18 pm
    @brassbull

    dude, north america does not equal united states of america

    Mexico, central america, the american west that was settled by Spain, are all part of north america and were all colonized by christians and the missionaries were almost always backed up by a sizable military force.

    You can`t make the above argument for the US or Canada. That`s because for Canada, France really didn`t utilize the land, they put a couple of forts and trading posts around and called it a day. For what became the US, they were a hodgepodge of religions that had left Europe because of persecution and most of them didn`t have the conversion need the Catholics did. They weren`t as interested in conversion as much as they were making their communities and being successful. Their disputes were more along the lines of what would make an individual rich (land) and that tended to fall under politics.
  62. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 6:40 pm
    jondegi: It`s a much bigger group than just 2-10 people, It`s also true that not all muslims are nuts over the drawings.

    This site just illustrates that drawing Mohamed wasn`t always viewed as sacrilegious, In fact the drawings were revered and considered holy in and of themselves. It`s a good way to illustrate the hypocrisy over the current events in the news.
  63. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    @janus_james:

    dude, north america does not equal united states of america

    I corrected myself in regards to the colonization of central America and Mexico. I mistakenly addressed Gerry1of1 instead of you while doing this.

    For what became the US, they were a hodgepodge of religions that had left Europe because of persecution and most of them didn`t have the conversion need the Catholics did.

    Wrong. The missionaries in the US and Canada were competing with the Catholics to convert natives. Many denominations of Protestant Christianity appealed to the Church of England for resources to further the effort to convert natives because of the growing threat of Catholicism. If you want you can read The Poor Indians by Laura Stevens for more info about this.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 6:53 pm
    By the way, extremism only seems prominent in Islam because that`s what the media decide to show us all the time.

    Things such as the rioting and the conditions in countries ruled by Islam are on a large enough scale to make it clear that it isn`t a handful of extremists being misrepresented as more.

    If it really was just a handful of nutjobs, their ravings would be treated no more serious than that of, for example, Fred Phelps.
  65. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 7:06 pm
    the american west that was settled by Spain

    When I refer to the colonization of the North American west I mean the expansion under the doctrine of manifest destiny and the military campaigns which forced native Americans off of their own land and onto reservations. If you want you can read Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.

    Their disputes were more along the lines of what would make an individual rich (land) and that tended to fall under politics.

    It sounds like you`re not talking about missionaries or religious figures anymore, but just Christians in general.
  66. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 7:25 pm
    Brassbull: Arguing over what happened 100-150 years ago in America is pointless. no one living today is responsible for the acts of their ancestors.

    I`m not responsible, Because one of my ancestors may have killed Gen. Custer (I`m 1/8th Lakota Sioux). So justly I can`t blame descendants of those responsible for the trail of tears. It`s history, We`ve learned from it and both become better for the lesson.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 7:33 pm
    @Crakrjak

    I`m not in any way saying anyone is indirectly responsible. I agree it is BS to blame anyone today for anything that happened that long ago. I was contesting Gerry1of1`s claim that natives were converted to Christianity by force. This is true of Spanish and Portuguese Catholics, but not protestant Christians in the colonial US.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 7:58 pm
    Brassbull: I don`t know if it was forced or not, But my great-grandfather was adopted by a white protestant family, Which is why my name isn`t `Running Elk` or something similar. He faced some minor racism, But because it was mostly a rural community it didn`t persist. Becoming one of the best blacksmiths and tinkers/mechanics in the county didn`t hurt either. He was born in the era of horse and buggy, Lived to see man walk on the moon. I`m still in awe of what he lived through and seen. He shod horses, He worked on some of the earliest cars, His son was in Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7th, 1941, His grandson survived Vietnam and He became a Shriner as well. Quite an awesome life for an adopted indian boy.
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    keith2 Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 8:05 pm
    awwwww shiiixts.... better get my jihad helmet on they`re bout to bomb my house as i type this
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 8:42 pm
    The only good muslim is an Abbasid muslim.
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    DarkFerret Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 8:45 pm
    sooo, is muhammed fair game now? :D
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    janus_games Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:18 pm
    I corrected myself in regards to the colonization of central America and Mexico. I mistakenly addressed Gerry1of1 instead of you while doing this.

    No. My problem is you`re still equating North America colonization with US colonization. North America is a *continent* and includes Mexico and Central America. There is no central american continent.

    The missionaries in the US and Canada were competing with the Catholics to convert natives.

    Not really. At least not in direct competition. Maryland wasn`t actively converting and they were the only catholics in the area til after the US was formed.

    You also neglect that L.S. directly mentions that Anglican missionaries weren`t successful. You can see that in two lights, first, that Anglican "missionaries" really weren`t trying they just basically took the money, and second, that natives in the area really weren`t listening.
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    Neagle Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:22 pm
    Yea and people wonder why the rest of the galaxy doesn`t want to associate with us.
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    janus_games Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:34 pm
    It sounds like you`re not talking about missionaries or religious figures anymore, but just Christians in general.

    Maybe that`s my fault. What I`m really trying to get at is the differences in colonial approach.

    The US colonies were founded by colonists, who wanted new starts and new lives away from their governing bodies. Therefore, your conflicts arose when individuals and communities wanted native american resources.

    The French weren`t really interested in colonization, that`s why you only really trading forts out there. A couple cours de bois, a couple trading posts, the french never really bothered.

    The Spanish were there for military occupation first and foremost. There weren`t people flocking there for a new life, they were military or there to support the military. Sure, occasionally you`d have a noble that wasn`t going to get an inheritance too. That`s basically why the land was divided up into huge ranchos the way it was
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:50 pm
    Step 1) Pretend any drawings of Mohammed are illegal always according to all Muslims. (Not counting some of the most senior Islamic authorities such as Ali Sistani).
    Step 2) Show old pictures of Mohammed.
    Step 3) Claim there has been a massive change.

    There hasn`t. The way the current events have been painted are inaccurate, and thus do not gel particularly well with Islamic thought of any period. It was specifically the content of the cartoons, not that there were cartoons.

    What an actual Fatwa looks like by the way, with regard the Danish cartoons.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    May 16, 2010 at 10:58 pm
    > CrakrJak
    > Don`t assume anything in the title or comment came from the submitter

    True that. If you saw some of the titles and descriptions as we receive them, you`d understand why. But adding `wacky` to this one - yeah, I can`t see what the point of that was.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:05 pm
    Wow, Baal. Thanks for that link... I had no idea what a Fatwa actually is before now. I`ve always heard it fed to me by the media as a bogey-man evil thing that I should be scared of (and yes, as a kid, I was always afraid of the apocryphal bogey-man), without ever being shown what the bogey-man looks like.

    Meant sincerely, without jest.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    May 16, 2010 at 11:16 pm
    Two more things.

    1) Seems most people actually contributed something reasonable without my intervention...

    2) To prevent massive repetition, Crakr and I already had a discussion on the role of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

    I am suggesting that someone has found a Muslim with a link to Nazis, and has then pretended the Grand Mufti is the founder of every Islamic group ever, and that his rhetoric is what guides everything ever.

    I think Crakr has read this, and believes it. I think if it was about Christians, he would realize how silly the argument was.

    Seriously, there`s more argument for Henry Ford being the inspiration for WWI and WWII than the GMJ being the inspiration of Modern Islamic thought.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    May 17, 2010 at 12:37 am
    Hmm...I wonder if a Fatwah for Jihad has been called upon I-A-B?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 17, 2010 at 12:59 am
    ...and has then pretended the Grand Mufti is the founder of every Islamic group ever..

    I`ve pretended nothing of the sort. I never said he founded every radical Islamic sect. I said that he started the antisemitic genocide ball rolling and it`s grown ever since then. Hitler started the Nazis, But he didn`t found the KKK or the Skinheads. Hitler did however provide them the symbols they now rally around.

    That`s the basis for my linking him to today`s problems in the middle-east and it`s a valid linkage.
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    Shtiv Male 18-29
    91 posts
    May 17, 2010 at 2:09 am
    The fact people are arguing about the wording of a title of a topic about Mohammed is very saddening. It just proves that the panic terrorism and Islamic extremists bring means we have to debate the most banal, minor, insignificant things for fear we might piss off a Muslim or two.

    If a Muslim you know is offended by this, tell him to grow a pair. Or show him the episodes of South Park that say all Priests are paedophiles.
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    Adi_Noor Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2010 at 2:45 am
    I-A-B... You should be ashamed!
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    frenchroast Male 30-39
    446 posts
    May 17, 2010 at 3:49 am
    Oh no! They will have to fly planes into the internets now! South Park should have cut out these images to represent the holy one, problem solved.
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2010 at 4:29 am
    The stuff about hell is not dissimilar to Catholicism, and all the symbolism is basically the same as most other main stream religions; its just that Muslims take their faith very very seriously, and some very very literally, which an be a dangerous thing to do where religion is concerned imho.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2010 at 5:00 am
    "Yea Crakr thats why i just type whatever, because i know theyll just change it"

    We try to liven things up a bit.
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    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2010 at 5:01 am
    I don`t really care.
    You can get a tattoo of Muhammad on yer ass for all i care.
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    Slmmhmmr161 Male 18-29
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    May 17, 2010 at 7:01 am
    Mohammed is asian?
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    monkey_spank Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2010 at 7:37 am
    itkonlyyou65
    hgjghjfgh

    should be banned for spam
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    outdoorMINER Female 18-29
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    May 17, 2010 at 8:15 am
    The links below this article are disturbing.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2010 at 8:35 am
    My problem is you`re still equating North America colonization with US colonization. North America is a *continent* and includes Mexico and Central America. There is no central american continent.

    So you`re arguing with me for not making a proper distinction in the beginning? Next time I`ll do so. I assure you I don`t equate the US with North America. Ok?

    At least not in direct competition. Maryland wasn`t actively converting and they were the only catholics in the area til after the US was formed.

    Yes, they were competing with Catholicism, and on a global scale, not just in the colonies. I`m referring here to the Spanish and Portuguese colonization of the central America and South America. So the Catholics in Maryland weren`t making a real effort, I neglected that information because it is insignificant in respect to the Catholic conversions south of what is now the US.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    May 17, 2010 at 9:10 am
    your conflicts arose when individuals and communities wanted native american resources.

    I believe I said something to that same effect. When violence erupted, it wasn`t at the instigation of ecclesiastical men, but colonials. My original argument was that in the colonial US, natives were not forced to convert. I don`t know what you`re arguing with me about anymore.
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    Sectsktn Female 30-39
    173 posts
    May 17, 2010 at 9:59 pm
    i was disappointed...i thought the images would actually be "wacky" :(

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