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55 Responses to The More Spills Change The More They Stay The Same

  1. Profile photo of Dead_Cow
    Dead_Cow Male 30-39
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    May 30, 2010 at 9:29 pm
    Link: The More Spills Change The More They Stay The Same - Hey! Why don`t we try doing a top kill on the underwater oil well leak!?
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    EdiMesic Male 18-29
    594 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 6:16 am
    Lady makes strong points.

    It`s absolutely absurd that they`ve invested time
    and money into devloping technology just to help
    them drill deeper, but invested nothing into
    developing a cataclysmic emergency plan in case
    something like this happened.

    Goes to show. Humans have so much potential.
    But they only dedicate their money, time and
    intellect into something they can reap the benefits of.

    If it doesn`t make profit, it`s not worth it.
    (Same goes with rare diseases. If only a few hundered suffer from it, it`s not worth getting interested in.)

    Money > life.
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    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 6:22 am
    That`s sort of lumping everyone together a bit isn`t it Edi. I know quite a few proffesions that your model doesn`t apply to.
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    Sock1122 Male 18-29
    274 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 6:26 am
    "making themselves the most profitable industry the universe has ever seen, and I`m not exaggerating"

    lol that literally IS an exaggeration :P
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    AcemanJones Male 30-39
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    May 31, 2010 at 6:34 am
    She has the most annoying voice ever.
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    EdiMesic Male 18-29
    594 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 6:37 am
    Reganom:

    My critique was mostly directed towards the oil companies.

    But you are right.
    There are definitely professions on which the description does not apply.
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    jayme21 Male 18-29
    585 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 6:41 am
    They invest in making sure drilling allows it to go deeper and doesn`t fail. Spend money on trying to make it not fail or on damage control after?

    Reason they are drilling deeper is society would crash if we stopped having oil.

    So Biased
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
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    May 31, 2010 at 7:21 am
    You go Maddow.....
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    May 31, 2010 at 10:23 am
    i don`t like her, or those types of reporters that want to give you their opinion. i don`t know what them call themselves now, reporters, new anchors, whatever, just report the news please, not your opinions. opinions are like a**holes, everyones got one.

    but everyone`s must listen to mine, lol.
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    metlhed77 Male 18-29
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    May 31, 2010 at 10:29 am
    that was boring
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    Salted_Eggs Male 18-29
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    May 31, 2010 at 10:39 am
    The past dictates the future, it doesn`t have to, but it does.
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    bmh Female 18-29
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    May 31, 2010 at 10:47 am
    AHHHHH they were both Transocean.... lolz.

    Anyways, its SO dratING GREAT to know that the techniques used to contain oil is updated now.

    I think I`ll just sit here and wait for a hurricane to push the oil onto all of Louisiana.

    *sigh*

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    slayer50515 Male 18-29
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    May 31, 2010 at 11:12 am
    "They invest in making sure drilling allows it to go deeper and doesn`t fail. Spend money on trying to make it not fail or on damage control after? "
    Both. They are NOT mutually exclusive options. This still well documents failure and holds true.
    You need to think before you speak on something this important.
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    wko Male 18-29
    554 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 11:34 am
    Wow O_o fascinating
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 12:13 pm
    Wow, obviously they never learn from there mistakes!
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    bomberouno Male 18-29
    185 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 12:28 pm
    "lol that literally IS an exaggeration :P"

    Well Exxon alone posted $45.2 BILLION profit in 2008. Not to mention all of the other companies making obscene profits as well. If you follow the history of big oil since Standard Oil you would know that it is indeed the most profitable industry.

    Ignorance truly is bliss.
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    DertMerchant Male 18-29
    310 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 12:30 pm
    I am STILL bored
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    Altaru Male 18-29
    3483 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 1:03 pm
    Ugh... That`s all I have to say... Ugh...
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    Sock1122 Male 18-29
    274 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 1:10 pm
    @bomberouno *facepalm*

    clearly you don`t know what a `universe` is
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    Maddow is the boringest woman on the planet.
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    Loxen Female 30-39
    1387 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 1:33 pm
    Dammnit peps, learn your history or be condemned to repeat it.

    I have to think thats also why all these old movies and songs are being recycled. >_>;
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
    15511 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 2:19 pm
    Its all part of a secret reptilian Illuminati agenda
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    SomeShoes Male 13-17
    2056 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 4:19 pm
    I saw that live lol
    and of course the "top hat" failed
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    God she drating sucks.

    Anyway, the reason the technology to stop leaks haven`t changed, is because there`s nothing else they can do.

    Aside from going down there with robots and cutting the pipe, so a cap will be able to be forced onto the hole with a siphon tube put on it to catch the oil, but we can`t do th.....

    Oh wait we can? So there IS better technology!

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    Ace_Mazta Male 13-17
    699 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 4:31 pm
    its like watching the daily show
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    howlingwolf Male 18-29
    1351 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 5:19 pm
    Not the best post. Though since today has been full of some gems I can easily let that go.
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    harley357 Male 18-29
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    May 31, 2010 at 5:28 pm
    well, since President Bush was said to hate black people because of katrina, doesn`t this mean that obama hates the whole Gulfsouth... just saying...
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    billy66bare Male 18-29
    289 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    auburnjunky

    "God she drating sucks.

    Anyway, the reason the technology to stop leaks haven`t changed, is because there`s nothing else they can do.

    Aside from going down there with robots and cutting the pipe, so a cap will be able to be forced onto the hole with a siphon tube put on it to catch the oil, but we can`t do th.....

    Oh wait we can? So there IS better technology! "

    1. They could put safety above their own profit. And the MMS agency could be better regulated.

    2. If you believe that with all the advances in modern technology they couldn`t have spent some of their billions in profit to come up with a better worst case scenario (which they said they had a plan for) solution, then I have some beach front property in Arkansas to sell you.

    They simply did not invest in the R&D to be prepared for this type of situation, while allowing blatant disregard of the safety measures to prevent it.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
    3483 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 5:53 pm
    Billy, before you criticize someone`s post, try reading past the first line...
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 9:03 pm
    Billy, I was saying we DO have better technology.

    Now Barack Petroleum needs to step up and use it.
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    pomokey Male 18-29
    95 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 9:09 pm
    Finally, an answer to the age old question: What`s more annoying than Keith Olbermann? A female Keith Olbermann.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10731 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 11:46 pm
    @auburn
    All the coast guard can do is spray dispersant. It`s BP (British Petroleum) that needs to use the new technology.
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    CBFLATLINE Male 40-49
    147 posts
    May 31, 2010 at 11:47 pm
    What a coincidence...

    The President then was, WAIT FOR IT...

    Jimmy Carter.

    Now, another Liberal fool.

    If you can make stupid generalizations then so can I.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8306 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 3:22 am
    This never happened in the Olde Days because we had Red Adair - basically the Chuck Norris of oil fires.



    Come back Red, we need you!
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 5:31 am
    "What a coincidence...
    The President then was, WAIT FOR IT...
    Jimmy Carter.
    Now, another Liberal fool.
    If you can make stupid generalizations then so can I."

    Yeah, because if Bush had been president he would have done a great job. The government`s role in this debacle goes way back before Obama- it is in completely failing to regulate industry and hold them accountable for their actions. I should remind you that it has largely been the Republicans carrying the dereg torch (though the Democrats are just as guilty- if not moreso- they only pay lipservice to corporate regulations). This isn`t just about Obama, or Bush- it`s about a complete and utter failure on behalf of the entire US government to do its job and protect this country from corporate irresponsibility.

    Also, I should add that oil drilling isn`t the most profitable industry the known Universe has ever seen. I believe spice mining on Arrakis takes that prize.
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    jayme21 Male 18-29
    585 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 6:35 am
    @slayer50515 Ever heard of opportunity cost, Budgets dictate what can and can`t be done. And until a situation arises anything that gets done is theory. If Oil well`s failed repeatedly they would know how to fix them more effectively. But the money is invested to try and make it not happen rather then when it does.

    The reason they are fumbling around trying different things is they haven`t had a lot of experience in dealing with this. Which I say money well spent avoiding it.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    June 1, 2010 at 7:59 am
    I got nothing.
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    Peaches25 Female 18-29
    27 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 8:03 am
    Lol, is she TRYING to be like John Stewart, or is it completely unintentional? Because the likeness is quite creepy.

    But yeah, a few years ago I would have been completely up in arms after watching this, ranting and raving and givng my two cents. But I`m just too disheartened with the way our goverments and major companies handle ANYTHING our days. They wont do anything, we all KNOW they wont do anything. So lets just sit clenching our jaws with our thumbs up our butts till it all goes away.

    I really shouldn`t drink in the day time. I`ve read that back and tho I`m rather impressed with myself for it making even a notch of sense, I am aware it makes me sound incredibly stupid lol. What the heck I`ll post it anyway :-D
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    fknloser Male 30-39
    418 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 9:49 am
    i bet she is the `husband` of the relationship. Even lesbos need an alpha fe--male
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    Sohltofangy Male 18-29
    103 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 11:05 am
    Oil companies responsible for,
    War, endangering ocean wildlife, destroying beautiful Alaskan wildlife, pumping CO2 into our atmosphere the likes of which have never been seen before, making the rich richer and the poor poorer, and bribing politicians the world over.

    Now do you see why we want alternative fuels? Now do you see why oil companies try to blind people into not wanting them. Christ, these people are out to get rich or die trying and don`t give a drat who`s in their way, same as cigarette companies.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 12:03 pm
    This is disgusting we should take BP for every cent they have and seal this off ASAP I don`t care if the well has to be redrilled seal it now!!
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    ManicRapture Female 13-17
    682 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 1:24 pm
    those who forget history are doomed to repeat it...
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    dang007 Male 30-39
    596 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 1:41 pm
    So lets see the same exact thing happened 30 years ago. Were is the long term environmental damage? Do any of you remember not being able to swim in or eat food from the gulf region? I don`t sounds like the spill turned out to be no big deal last time, suggest that it won`t be a big deal this time. I think that we should rest easy and increase the amount of shore drilling.
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    derf87 Male 18-29
    21 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 2:13 pm
    Oil companies responsible for,
    War, endangering ocean wildlife, destroying beautiful Alaskan wildlife, pumping CO2 into our atmosphere the likes of which have never been seen before, making the rich richer and the poor poorer, and bribing politicians the world over.

    Now do you see why we want alternative fuels? Now do you see why oil companies try to blind people into not wanting them. Christ, these people are out to get rich or die trying and don`t give a drat who`s in their way, same as cigarette companies.

    @Sohltofangy
    There is probably just as much corruption in other big companies. Loads of money + potentially exponential gains will always turn people greedy. I say get rid of money, lets all barter!
  45. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8306 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 4:41 pm
    > McGovern1981
    > This is disgusting we should take BP for every cent they have

    Umm... they`re an oil company. You DO realize they`re already taking YOU for every cent you have? And in 10-25 years people will be clawing each other`s hearts out and selling their children for another 10 miles worth of gasoline?
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    necrobitch Female 18-29
    467 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 6:22 pm
    dat dude has a womans voice
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    Peaches25 Female 18-29
    27 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 6:42 pm
    necrobitchthing..whatever you are. Why do you come here?

    All you do is leave either revolting or idiotic comments, and the majority of the time its both. From you`re posts and avy I`d say you`re a level 3 troll, just annoying enough for people to notice you, but not even close to being intelligent enough for people to remember anything you say.

    Just go away, you`re not funny, or clever, or anything for that matter.

    Yay for (extended) bank holiday drunken meaness!!!
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 6:42 pm
    "I don`t sounds like the spill turned out to be no big deal last time, suggest that it won`t be a big deal this time"
    1) Except this time the spill is a full mile under water, which makes a big difference.

    2) Even then, you`re right. In the long run, this won`t do a huge amount of truly long term environmental damage- but it will do enormous short-term environmental damage, and subsequently enormous economic damage to the people living in areas affected by the spill. And there`s no way BP is going to have to compensate them all for their losses.
  49. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    If you`re gonna talk this much crap about oil companies, shouldn`t you stop driving your car?
  50. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 6:44 pm
    "And in 10-25 years people will be clawing each other`s hearts out and selling their children for another 10 miles worth of gasoline?"

    No they won`t. The technology already exists to propel vehicles without gasoline, and it`s already in use. As oil supplies dwindle, and oil prices rise, the demand for electric and/or hydrogen-cell vehicles will increase and the market will meet that demand.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10731 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 7:24 pm
    @auburnjunky
    Reasons:
    1)Environmentalists gotta get around somehow. Drive your car to the mass transit station/bus station/airport. Heck car pool.
    2)See sbeelz last post.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 1, 2010 at 7:54 pm
    While I believe the oil spill in the gulf is a huge, terrible tragedy, I believe that it just a small blip on a bigger radar screen.

    There`s more than enough oil to go around for now. The technologies that have been given to cut oil use are not yet cost efficient to go into mass production. Oil prices are steady, and are expected to drop (even with what`s happening in the gulf).

    I don`t see much changing in the foreseeable future, unless our government (or some other world government *coughEuropecough*) forces us to buy non-combustion vehicles.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8306 posts
    June 2, 2010 at 4:34 am
    > auburnjunky
    > a huge, terrible tragedy but just a small blip on a bigger radar screen

    So true, so true. The REAL tragedy happened 18-29 years and 6911 Posts ago in Belfast.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    June 2, 2010 at 6:53 am
    @Lionhart2

    Ummm ya I do realize that which is why I`d like to watch this company be crucified but I also realize I don`t have any other choice for fuel. That is until my fart powered engine is complete.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 2, 2010 at 9:43 am
    @lionhart:

    Ouch. Who was that directed to? lol.

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