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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 2:28 pm
    Link: Something To Think About For Vegetarians... - But that`s just for flavor, right?
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    RiseAgainst3 Male 13-17
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    May 1, 2010 at 2:36 pm
    I personally don`t eat grass.
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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 2:44 pm
    Buhahahahaha.
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 2:45 pm
    Uh, yea, I don`t eat grass... but thanks anyway. And if its the compost you`re talking about, I`ll gladly take that any day over blood, pesticides, and diseased laden animals. Perhaps if you saw close-ups of what processed meat looks like (warning - not for the squeemish): you will then decide to eliminate these products from your diet. The bottom line...meats are just too dangerous for human consumption and should be avoided for life!

    YUM, MEAT!
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    B3N0C1D3 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 2:51 pm
    Bahahahaha! Wait, doesn`t that mean my food sh*ts on my food too? :(
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    If you eat meat then you are eating poo as well...
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    fancylady Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 2:57 pm
    You can choose to eat free range grass fed healthy meats though instead of the mass market crap in the grocery stores .I like Bison :)
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    shaboinkin Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    @lostinkorea

    I`m still alive
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    BenTheBug Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:04 pm
    lostinkorea, pesticides and diseases can be found in plants too. As for the blood, if I were worried about that, I`d eat only kosher meat. And no, seeing close-ups of that sausage doesn`t make me want to stop eating meat, and I`m not gonna stop eating anything just because it "looks icky" close up. I`ve been eating all my life and have had no health problems brought on by my diet.

    As for your other link, I haven`t had nearly that many health problems annually at all, but that`s a good point, I`d much rather eat bug poo.
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:04 pm
    Lost: your link made me hungry for some processed meat. :)
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    allie22 Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:06 pm
    Yeah, because everybody knows that vegetarians eat grass...
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:07 pm
    lol `meats are too dangerous for human consumption`

    yes thats why we have survived eating it for such a long time! :/
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    McDuff73 Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:14 pm
    I am 37 years old and this year I have just started eating black pudding the thought of eating congealed pigs blood always played on my mind but I bloody love it now!
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    MildCorma Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    @lostinkorea

    Im pretty sure if you photographed processed veg up close it would look awful as well. Good job looks don`t = taste YUM!
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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:20 pm
    @allie22

    Don`t get all drating butthurt.
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    rainbowfarts Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:31 pm
    It`s really annoying when vegetarians claim we aren`t supposed to eat meat (or, as my vegan friend says, dairy or egg products also). We`ve been eating all of those foods since the dawn of man and we have incisors for a reason.
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    allie22 Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:33 pm
    @Zerocyde I`m not "butthurt". I just thought it was funny.
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    slab-of-rage Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:35 pm
    Look at it this way... apart from milk, beef and leather, what else is a cow for?
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    bophus Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:43 pm
    do you know why humans some sharp and pointed teeth? to tear into meat. Human are supposed to eat meat. we are built to eat meet. to all the vegitards, you are actually hurting yourself by not eat meat. meat is tasty and i dont care if it falls in a vat of cancer...cook it up and eat it.
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:51 pm
    @bophus: Wow, that`s all I really have to say. You can`t really believe that is it unhealthy NOT to eat meat....ummm....yea...

    Eat up bitches...
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    Vligon Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    Sexing.
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    sarah-face89 Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:54 pm
    i dont eat grass...
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    domisgood Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:54 pm
    @slab-of-rage,
    tipping over
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:56 pm
    Vegetarians stay slim while meat eaters remain FAT


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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    "Wow, that`s all I really have to say. You can`t really believe that is it unhealthy NOT to eat meat....ummm....yea...

    Eat up bitches..."

    1) Look at your teeth. We NEED meat in our diet, your teeth are designed for it. If you don`t believe me, look in a cow`s mouth, or an elephant`s mouth. Those teeth are designed for JUST greens.

    2) I got to the point where they said the PETA crew filmed it, and stopped. We all know that PETA "rescues", then kills more animals every year than any animal shelter every could hope to. Anything PETA says is an automatic lie to me.
  26. Profile photo of lostinkorea
    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:02 pm
    You don`t NEED meat. Where is your research to support your "fact".

    I learned that answer in elementary school and it’s been useful ever since. We have pointy teeth because some creature 10,000 years ago or 100,000 years ago or 1 million or 10 million years ago who may or may not have been human as we know it happened to have pointy teeth and happened to have lots of babies. And those babies had babies who had more babies and eventually you appeared. With pointy teeth. Congratulations. *rolling eyes*
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    Linkenberger Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    Yeah, if you want to show me loads of footage of animal abuse to "shock and awe" me into vegetarianism, you wouldn`t be the first. Personally, I`ve already seen enough "animal cruelty" on the Discovery Channel; every time a leopard or a lion catches their prey.

    Truth be told, animals are cruel, cruel bastards. Why should we show the ones we eat respect?
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    gothmo Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:05 pm
    yeah, I agree with the incisors thing >> if we were supposed to be omnivors all of our teeth would be flat and suitable for grinding, not sharp and for puncturing. we`re the ultimate form of omnivors O:
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:07 pm
    *Avoiding meat is one of the best and simplest ways to cut down your fat consumption. Modern farm animals are deliberately fattened up to increase profits. Eating fatty meat increases your chances of having a heart attack or developing cancer.
    *Every minute of every working day, thousands of animals are killed in slaughter-houses. Pain and misery are common. In the US alone, 500,000 animals are killed for meat every hour.
    *There are millions of cases of food poisoning recorded every year. The vast majority are caused by eating meat.
    *Meat contains absolutely nothing - no proteins, vitamins or minerals - that the human body cannot obtain perfectly happily from a vegetarian diet.
    *African countries, where millions are starving to death export grain to the developed world so that animals can be fattened for our dining tables.
    *`Meat` can include the tail, head, feet, rectum and spinal cord of an animal.
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    Linkenberger Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:07 pm
    "Vegetarians stay slim while meat eaters remain FAT"

    Article says: "We all put on weight as we get older, the researchers found. However, vegetarians put on less weight than meat eaters, and vegans put on less weight than vegetarians."

    Meat eaters don`t "remain FAT". I know plenty of MEN who eat meat regularly and are UNDERWEIGHT. The reason vegans put on less weight than vegetarians, and vegetarians than meat eaters is because they have less to eat, and therefore eat less. That`s more or less the whole concept of "dieting".
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    Linkenberger Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    "*`Meat` can include the tail, head, feet, rectum and spinal cord of an animal."

    Mmm, rectum.
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:09 pm
    *A sausage can contain ground up intestines. How can anyone be sure that the intestines are empty when they are ground up? Do you really want to eat the content of a pig`s intestines?

    *If we eat the plants we grow instead of feeding them to animals, the world`s food shortage will disappear virtually overnight. Remember that 100 acres of land will produce enough beef for 20 people but enough wheat to feed 240 people.

    *Every day, tens of millions of one-day-old male chicks are killed because they will not be able to lay eggs. There are no rules about how this mass slaughter takes place. Some are crushed or suffocated to death. Many are used for fertiliser or fed to other animals.

    *Animals who die for your dinner table die alone, in terror, in sadness and in pain. The killing is merciless and inhumane.

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    I have nothing against vegetarians. To live that way is a personal preference and it harms no one.

    However, humans are adapted to eat meat, and meat has a higher concentration of energy than plants. So to be a vegetarian is a "disadvantage" in that sense, albeit a minor one.

    The only people I am against is those that think that by being a vegetarian or vegan is somehow morally superior to not being one.

    ... and the poster is funneh.
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    "*Animals who die for your dinner table die alone, in terror, in sadness and in pain. The killing is merciless and inhumane."

    Actually they don`t die alone. They`re with thousands of their friends when it happens :)
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:11 pm
    When I used to eat meat, I was about 25 to 30 pounds heavier. When I stopped, many years back, I didn`t even need to exercise to lose the weight. Also, I had way more energy @ 25 then I did @ 15. I never had that disgusting heavy feeling either...
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:12 pm
    give it a rest, lostinkorea. While I was reading your lists of reasons why not to eat meat, I was enjoying my nice Chipotle dinner with barbacoa--pulled beef. and it`s delicious. I quote: "I did not fight my way to the top of the food chain just to eat carrots."
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    KekS Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:12 pm
    Wow, *someone* here got a major butthurt, I see.
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    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:14 pm
    I`m veg, But i loled anyway. its called being a good sport and realizing when sh*t is funny.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:16 pm
    My friend is vegetarian not because "He loves animals" but because he really really hates plants
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:17 pm
    @ LazyMe484: I don`t think it has to do with moral superiority, it`s just a way of life. I don`t like when carnivores claim that we NEED meat to survive. That`s just a lie they tell themselves so they don`t feel guilty while eating some defenseless animal who probably died a horrible death or suffocated on it`s own blood. If you want to eat meat just say that but don`t claim it`s because our teeth are pointy. I mean come on...

    Wow, it`s like IAB vs. Lostinkorea : - (
    But hey, I still love you guys...
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:18 pm
    @ lostinkorea:

    did you ever stop to think that maybe continuous, non-stop preaching about why eating meat is bad MIGHT be a turn-off? You made your point: you`re a vegetarian, and you don`t agree with killing animals.

    fine. You`ve said it numerous times now. GET OVER IT and move on with your day. We know what you`re trying to say, repeating yourself 20,000 times isn`t going to change anything. get off your soapbox and move on.
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    And just because PsychGeek said give it a rest...

    *The following diseases are most common among meat eaters: anemia, appendicitis, arthritis, breast cancer, cancer of the colon, cancer of the prostrate, constipation, diabetes, gallstones, gout, high blood pressure, indigestion, obesity, piles, strokes and varicose veins. Lifelong vegetarians visit hospital 22% less often than meat eaters and for shorter stays. Vegetarians have a 20% lower blood cholesterol level than meat eaters and this reduces heart attack and cancer risks considerably.
    *Animals suffer from pain and fear just as much as you do. How would you like to spend your last hours locked in a truck, packed into a cage with hundreds of other terrified animal and then cruelly pushed into a blood soaked death chamber. Anyone who eats meat condones and supports the way animals are treated.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:22 pm
    Meat contains absolutely nothing - no proteins, vitamins or minerals - that the human body cannot obtain perfectly happily from a vegetarian diet.

    The rest is right, but that`s not quite true. I tried a less extreme form of the same argument recently and Lionhart42 was able to prove that wrong, let alone your more extreme form. You can`t get everything you need from a vegetarian diet unless you`re including lacto-ovo semi-vegetarian in your definition of vegetarian (but that would greatly undermine your other points) or you eat faeces (which few people are perfectly happy to do).

    With knowledge, care, supplements from a factory and access to a far wider choice of food than most people have, it`s possible to get everything you need from a vegetarian diet. Although you could quibble a bit about the supplements because they`re made by bacteria, which are technically animals.
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:23 pm
    blah blah blah BLAH. i honestly don`t care about what you say anymore regarding this. quite frankly, your constant, non-stop lists about why your "lifestyle choice" is better than ours is getting old and very obnoxious.

    get off your effin` high horse and realize that eating salads and carrots doesn`t make you better than anyone else, and doesn`t mean your lifestyle is better than anyone else`s.
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    TheSharpest Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:28 pm
    Well, if you want to eat only vegetables in your lifetime that`s okay to me, but please, please, shut the f*ck up about it. No one cares how healthy, humane or natural you think it is.
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    Mani-Jac Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:30 pm
    I eat meat because I like meat, and about the animal that has to die for my tasty burger, well, it wouldn`t have lived if it weren`t for my demand for meat, so hey, a lot of animals are alive because I eat meat.....

    Resuming: Carnivores are creators of life
  47. Profile photo of lostinkorea
    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:32 pm
    @ Angilion: No, I can`t even do the lacto-ovo, I can`t consume any dairy (ice cream, milk, yogurt etc..) I get extremely sick. I am full blown vegan. Actually, I haven`t thought about the bacteria aspect of supplements (I have to look into that, thanks). But I have spoke with many nutritionists over the years and they all agree that you can indeed get all you need through a vegan diet coupled with vitamins (which are optional). Are you vegetarian or vegan?
  48. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    do you know why humans some sharp and pointed teeth? to tear into meat. Human are supposed to eat meat. we are built to eat meet.

    We`re also built to eat plants. Humans are physiologically suited to being omnivorous.

    Humans are also suited to being aggressive, tribal killers who take what they want by force and cunning and to hell with everyone else. We`re at the top of the food chain because humans can make better weapons than other animals and are meaner and more cunning than other animals.

    It`s natural for humans to eat meat. It`s also natural for humans to kill other humans in order to steal their resources. Arguments to nature are somewhat dodgy ground.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    I don`t like when carnivores claim that we NEED meat to survive.

    Despite what you think, there are no carnivores on this forum. I don`t think its possible to live on a diet of only meat, but hey, I could be wrong.

    suffocated on it`s own blood

    That sounds like a rather inefficient and downright implausible way to kill livestock.

    I disagree with roughly 60% of what you`ve said, but I don`t have time to debunk everything as my dinner is getting cold.
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    IssaTheFiend Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:34 pm
    I love me some meat. I do wish people didn`t feel the need to mistreat/torture them before killing them. :(
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    xxxveganxxx Male 13-17
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:36 pm
    FLAME WAR!!!
  52. Profile photo of KekS
    KekS Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:36 pm
    There is a simple reason for all these pointless lines of text. B12 vitamin deficiency. It cause people to become more aggressive and "a decreased mental work capacity". Main source of B12 is, you guessed it, meat and other animal products.

    Hey, you know who else was a vegetarian? Hitler.
  53. Profile photo of lostinkorea
    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:38 pm
    And Jeffery Dahmer was a carnivore ; - )
  54. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:39 pm
    No, I can`t even do the lacto-ovo, I can`t consume any dairy (ice cream, milk, yogurt etc..) I get extremely sick.

    Pyschological aversion. I`m the same with vodka.

    A lot of people do include eggs and milk products as vegetarian, even if they don`t eat them.

    Actually, I haven`t thought about the bacteria aspect of supplements (I have to look into that, thanks).

    You don`t actually have a choice - you must use bacteria for food or you will die. We`ve evolved a dependent symbiosis. So using some more probably isn`t a useful ethical issue.

    But I have spoke with many nutritionists over the years and they all agree that you can indeed get all you need through a vegan diet coupled with vitamins (which are optional).

    They`re all wrong, then. You can get very close, but those vitamin supplements are not optional. You`d die slowly, but you would die. Bah, character limit...
  55. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:40 pm
    Actually, I haven`t thought about the bacteria aspect of supplements

    Nothing says crazy more than "I am against the killing of bacteria".
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:42 pm
    @ lostinkorea:

    if you ACTUALLY think that using Jeffry Dahmer as an example of why eating meat is bad, quite frankly that`s just pathetic.
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    Xenophonix Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:44 pm
    For those people saying we have canine teeth - so do horses (comparable to our own)

    Now when you see a horse tucking into a beef burger let me know...
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    @ Xeno:

    awesome :)
  59. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    B12 is the big deal-breaker. It`s essential (as all vitamins are - it`s more or less the definition) and there are no known plant sources of B12 that humans can use. None. Plenty in meat. Lots in eggs and milk. Damn all in plants. Suppliment or die, that`s your choice.

    There are some vegans who don`t suppliment and don`t die. That`s because they get their B12 from food and water contaminated with faeces. There`s a lot of B12 in animal dung (including human).

    Ironically, humans make enough B12 in their digestive system, as do many animals. The biggest problem is that it`s made further along than the bits of the system that can extract B12, so it just gets pooed out. It`s speculated that it`s one reason why many animals eat their own dung.

    Are you vegetarian or vegan?

    No. I`m omnivorous.
  60. Profile photo of lostinkorea
    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    @ Psychgeek: It was a joke to keks comment, you know there are other posts you can participate in, if you "TRULY and REALLY", don`t care with what I have to say...

    I get it, you like MEAT...ok! ok!
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    NitroJunkie Male 70 & Over
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:47 pm
    Gonna use this flame war to grill a thick-ass burger.

    Xeno- Close, but I used to have a horse that enjoyed ham sandwiches. And beer. A man`s horse, he was.
  62. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    @ lostinkorea:

    if you ACTUALLY think that using Jeffry Dahmer as an example of why eating meat is bad, quite frankly that`s just pathetic.

    It was a direct response to someone using Hitler as an example of why being vegetarian is bad.

    As an argument by itself, citing Jeffry Dahmer is bad. As a reduction ad absurdum argument in that context, it`s good.

    Although Jeffry Dahmer wasn`t a carnivore.
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    How and what people eat comes down to chooses, "Meat"(minus overly processed poo) is a concentrated source of protein in a easy accessible place, be be that domesticated or not. And considering that a vast majority, efficient and effective means to this protein are insects. But humans love easy food(plus prefer odds that it won`t kill us when consumed, mostly). We are opportunistic creatures as well as ones of habit.

    Vagens in my experience take issue with EVERYTHING that they see as threat to their lifestly choose. Vegeitariens would see this picture as a joke move on. Instead Vagans in their vanity try to impress apon others that farming animals is bad and continuely use meida matirial of factory facilties or "factory farms" their proof the animals are harmed which is usaully undisputed expect for the spin involed for said pictures. A vast majority of urbanities haven`t clue what is involed to feed them, regardless of whether they`re anti- or pro- m
  64. Profile photo of lostinkorea
    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    @ Angilion: I wish we could chat over some green tea!

    : - )
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:50 pm
    LMAO @ NitroJunkie
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    To clarify: I wasn`t saying that all vitamin supplements are made from bacteria (although they might be - I neither know nor care). The big deal for vegans when it comes to suppliments is B12 and that`s definitely made from bacteria.
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    Xenophonix Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    @NitroJunkie - LOL well now I`ve heard everything! What an awesome horse he must have been :-)
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    haha nice
  69. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:55 pm
    Despite what you think, there are no carnivores on this forum. I don`t think its possible to live on a diet of only meat, but hey, I could be wrong.

    It is possible for humans to live as carnivores, but you need to eat parts of animals that probably wouldn`t be called meat by people on here. They`d be more likely to be called "WTF is that?" :)
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    Hiromi Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:56 pm
    I don`t eat grass..
  71. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 4:59 pm
    "Main source of B12 is, you guessed it, meat and other animal products."

    Main =/= only.
  72. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    @ Angilion: I wish we could chat over some green tea!

    : - )

    Only on your side. I don`t like green tea. I`ll stick with the brown tea. Yorkshire tea in a big mug, strong enough to stain wood, hot enough for walking on Ilkley moor without a hat :)

    Local joke...which is a bit silly on a forum because hardly anyone will get it.
  73. Profile photo of KekS
    KekS Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:06 pm
    "Main =/= only."

    Right, my bad. Let me rephrase that:
    The only natural source of B12 is, you guessed it, meat and other animal products.
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    magoo22 Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:07 pm
    I`m an omnivore too. A varied diet is what it`s all about I think.... I once ate a vegetarian haggis in Glasgow.
    Now, I`m not advocating a departure from tradition here but it was great!
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    Canoas Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:07 pm
    "Main source of B12 is, you guessed it, meat and other animal products."

    "Main =/= only."

    It`s not the main.. it`s the ONLY source of B12. B12 can only be found on meat, milk or eggs. B12 is also an essential vitamin for our brain and nervous system to work properly, so if you`re not getting your so needed share form meat, eggs and milk, you better go see a doctor ASAP.
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:07 pm
    "Although Jeffry Dahmer wasn`t a carnivore."

    TECHNICALLY he was. he at parts of his victims, not because he wanted to eat meat, but because he felt that by doing so, they`d be with him forever. Dahmer had a fear of abandonment brought about by his parents` divorce. By consuming his victims and storing them on his property, they`d never leave him. He actually tried to turn them into sex zombies who would do exactly as he said--he wanted total control.

    only HE would decide when they left him.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:08 pm
    "Main source of B12 is, you guessed it, meat and other animal products."

    Main =/= only.

    The other sources are dung from various animals (including humans) and labs/factories making it from the right kind of bacteria.

    Although it`s probably possible to genetically engineer a plant that would make B12.
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    HerrHuhn Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:09 pm
    ...and five seconds after that picture was taken, the cow went right back to eating grass that had been pooped on within the last ten days.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:09 pm
    MEAT IS FCUKING DELICIOUS!!! I LOVE MEAT!!! I WILL EAT MEAT UNTIL I DIE AT A RIPE OLD AGE!!!

    P.eople
    E.ating
    T.asty
    A.nimals

    MEEEEEAAAAATTTTT!!!!!
  80. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 5:12 pm
    "Although Jeffry Dahmer wasn`t a carnivore."

    TECHNICALLY he was. he at parts of his victims, not because he wanted to eat meat, but because he felt that by doing so, they`d be with him forever.

    Which makes him a cannibal (and a nutjob), not a carnivore.

    Strictly speaking, carnivores are animals that eat *only* meat. The definition gets stretched a bit to include animals that sometimes eat a little plant material as a natural part of their diet. The carnivore/omnivore/herbivore split is nice and neat but reality is more of a spectrum than three discrete groups.
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:14 pm
    @ Angiliion: touche :)

    @ ScottSerious: oh that`s SO ORIGINAL. try coming up with some new material, that PETA joke is as old as I am.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:19 pm
    @PsychGeek

    i`m just throwing my two cents in there. i saw everyone else doing, sooooo......yeah.
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:20 pm
    that`s fine, and I`d love to hear your two cents. I`ve just heard that PETA joke countless times :p
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:21 pm
    Which makes him a cannibal (and a nutjob), not a carnivore.

    Actually, cannibals are just a subset of carnivores.

    In the immortal words of Alf, when offered a salad, "That`s not food! That`s what food eats!"
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    ScottSerious:

    Given the commercial meat processing industry, perhaps that should read:

    People
    Eating
    Testicles &
    Anuses
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    Actually, cannibals are just a subset of carnivores.

    An overlapping set, not a subset.

    Hannibal Lector, for example, was a cannibal but his like of fava beans makes it clear that he was an omnivore, not a carnivore. Not all cannibals are carnivores.
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    "Actually, cannibals are just a subset of carnivores."

    Angilion is right. Carnivores ONLY eat meat. Now, if Dahmer only ate meat, he`d be a carnivore. However, I`m pretty sure he ate his veggies as well.

    People who eat both meat and veggies are OMNIvores. To say that a cannibal is a subset of a carnivore is incorrect, because if that person eats things besides meat, they`re not true carnivores.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:37 pm
    @Angilion

    that`s fine by me. that stuff is delicious.
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    eugyathin Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 5:38 pm
    Haha, the name of this picture on the iab server is vegiepoop.jpg
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 6:36 pm
    @Angilion

    Yea. ok mister know it all. You always use BIG words but you really don`t know crap about poo!
    STFU
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    "You don`t NEED meat. Where is your research to support your "fact".

    I learned that answer in elementary school and it’s been useful ever since. We have pointy teeth because some creature 10,000 years ago or 100,000 years ago or 1 million or 10 million years ago who may or may not have been human as we know it happened to have pointy teeth and happened to have lots of babies. And those babies had babies who had more babies and eventually you appeared. With pointy teeth. Congratulations. "

    The pointy teeth are my proof. The creature you speak of had the teeth because they needed the meet. You seem to have a problem with logic. Take your picture of the obese meat eating children you use to support your idea that meat eaters are fat. The children are meat eaters, the children are fat, therefore all meat eaters are fat. Doesn`t work like that.
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    PsychGeek Female 18-29
    1798 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 6:43 pm
    @ a1butcher:

    Instead of just blindly and immaturely insulting Angilion, why not provide an example of what he doesn`t know? Seems to me he`s been right about what he`s said.

    Grow up and take your own advice: STFU.
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    Stane Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 6:45 pm
    "The pointy teeth are my proof. The creature you speak of had the teeth because they needed the meet. You seem to have a problem with logic. Take your picture of the obese meat eating children you use to support your idea that meat eaters are fat. The children are meat eaters, the children are fat, therefore all meat eaters are fat. Doesn`t work like that. "

    Mhm. Kids are fat because of junkfoods like potato chips, soda, and sugar in general. NOT meat.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 6:52 pm
    Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:51:17 PM
    sure... lets start with these ,Then I shal. "STFU

    "It is possible for humans to live as carnivores, but you need to eat parts of animals that probably wouldn`t be called meat by people on here. They`d be more likely to be called "WTF is that?" :)"

    I can name them all. can you without Google?

    "Given the commercial meat processing industry, perhaps that should read:

    People
    Eating
    Testicles &
    Anuses"

    Actually they are very nutritious, you should try them some time.

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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 6:55 pm
    Oh and PsychGeek... relax a little would ya, geesh.

    The guy is smart, yea We all get it. I`m sure he would be the life of any party.
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    Stelly Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    I didn`t read any comments, but I can guarantee there`s 2+ people battling on about veggies VS carnivores.

    Explain how humans survived thousands of years killing animals to eat and survive? This age of vegetarians is something new to the human race. (Why did you study history in school? It was to avoid past mistakes and learn from past positives). Also, give me a lineup of 9 omnivores and 1 vegetarian and I can spot him/her 99% of the time. Vegetarians just look unhealthy....

    Key word here, OMNIVORE! We didn`t live thousands of years being one or the other, we were BOTH. The middle argument wins, Game Over.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 7:03 pm
    > Stelly
    > I didn`t read any comments, but... Explain how humans survived thousands of years killing animals to eat and survive?

    Why should anyone bother, since YOU didn`t bother reading THEIR comments?
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    npdarren Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    Our biology is geared to an omnivorous diet. Eating only meat or only vegetables/plants is not the healthiest thing to do. There`s my two cents.
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    rainbowfarts Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 7:35 pm
    @stelly
    I totally agree with you. My vegan friend has this sort of pallor to her that just looks unhealthy even though she swears she`s healthier than me. Even mutual friends agree I have a glow that she doesn`t and I`m an omnivore (and eating horrible meat, dairy, and egg products!)
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    AndelleRae Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 7:35 pm
    Stelly, aside from the fact that you posted your comment at least three times, your point lost validity once you said vegetarians look unhealthy. My best friend is a vegetarian and she looks anything but unhealthy. The only vegetarians that look unhealthy are the ones who are doing it wrong and don`t know what kind of stuff to eat in order to get necessary nutrients. In other words, a fairly small percentage of them. I know, or have known, many vegetarians, and none of them ever looked unhealthy.
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    feiku Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 7:38 pm
    Animals eat other animals. It`s how it is. It isn`t unhealthy or unnatural. What makes some meat-eaters today so unhealthy is that we eat mostly the fat in the meat and not the lean parts--like the muscle. For example, you can`t compare an omnivore who`s fat off Mcdonalds to an omnivore who eats lean meats like chicken. Of course one will be dramatically more healthy than the other. That`s like comparing a vegetarian who eats a lot of fruit and veggies to the one who eats a lot of potato chips. It isn`t as easy as saying "MEAT EATERS ARE FAT AND VEGETARIANS ARE SKINNY AND HEALTHY!"



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    feiku Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 7:39 pm
    I don`t get vegetarians. I wanted to go vegetarian because I hate animal abuse but you know what: we`re MEANT to eat it. We`ve always ate it. Millions of other animals and insects eat it. It`s just the way it is. Sure, we can probably live without it with a careful minitoring of our diet, but the ability to carefully monitor our diet did NOT exist a hundred years ago, so meat became essential to our diet. There IS a difference between taking a B vitamin pill and having our bodies process the vitamin through meat. Lostinkora is stating hugely wrong stereotypes about meat eaters. In her arguments, she assumes all meat eaters only eat Mcdonalds and other unhealthy sources of meat and completely neglects the idea that many people eat healthy sources of meat and remain very healthy (such as athletes). She also assumes everyone eats meat from well-known sources of animal abuse when many eat natural-raised animals.
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    skittle5 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 7:42 pm
    The thing is people don`t need meat to live healthy lives. Also, to raise meat takes a toll on the planet, all the extra green house gases from all the crap, and most meat companies are horrible to their stock.
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    skittle5 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 7:45 pm
    yes, animals eat other animals, but they haven`t been living in houses and farming for the past few millenniums.
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    pui Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 7:55 pm
    ... so because we`re a more advanced species we shouldn`t eat meat? Why? If lions became more advanced creatures with culture and technology, would it make any sense that they should no longer consume meat? I don`t understand this argument.
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    Stelly Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 7:57 pm
    Wow, Pui, very valid argument. Consider it stolen for personal use :)
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    RebelSpeaker Female 13-17
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    I don`t eat meat because I belive in equality. Let the cow poo on our food! It`s only natural.
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    Nerdfighter0 Male 18-29
    212 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 8:13 pm
    Carnivores for the win.
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    pui Female 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:14 pm
    Stelly, why are there duplicates of all your comments? >_O
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:15 pm
    Yea. ok mister know it all. You always use BIG words but you really don`t know crap about poo!
    STFU

    There are dictionaries online. You could use them to try to simplify my posts down to your level so you can make a better attempt at understanding them.
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    simim23 Female 18-29
    1427 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 8:16 pm
    "I don`t eat meat because I belive in equality. Let the cow poo on our food! It`s only natural."

    Equality`s a great thing!!
    But try explaining that to the tasty shark out there. I think he`d think equality`s being able to eat you too. ^_^

    Also, while vegetarianism isn`t bad for you, if done right, it`s really just avoiding your natural self.

    You NEED protein, and you NEED vitamins that are found in meat. You can take supplements all you want, but all you`re doing is tip-toeing around the fact that you are an omnivore, only based on your own morality.

    It`s like being gay and getting married and having children to avoid accepting the fact that you`re homosexual.
  112. Profile photo of Stelly
    Stelly Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:25 pm
    @pui, because I`m a loser who keeps hitting refresh to see who knocks what I said and my comp must be re-sending the info...but hey, I`m man enough to admit it!
  113. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 8:27 pm
    The pointy teeth are my proof. The creature you speak of had the teeth because they needed the meet.

    We are not the creature referred to and we don`t live in the same circumstances, so it is not proof that humans *need* to eat meat.

    Human teeth imply that we`re suited to eating both plants and meat but that doesn`t prove either are necessary, particularly since circumstances have been changed so dramatically recently by large scale transportation of food over large distances. It`s now possible to easily get a wide variety of edible plants.

    The prehuman animal you refer to needed meat. Our ancestors needed meat. We don`t. Humans are versatile enough to do without it in the circumstances that we live in.
  114. Profile photo of a1butcher
    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:29 pm
    Angilion , Thanks for the advise Buzz killington. I might do that.

    I like "my level", however, Its less bombastic and pretentious down here.


    bom·bas·tic
    –adjective
    (of speech, writing, etc.) high-sounding; high-flown; inflated; pretentious.



    I found those 2 word online... thanks man it really did work. Now Me Smrt like you?

  115. Profile photo of Stelly
    Stelly Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:33 pm
    Lionhart, you have 6985 posts, you MUST know by now that any IAB post that barely hints at anything involving race, religion, abortion, or life choice involves massive flame wars between both sides. That`s why I didn`t bother reading any comments because I know the arguments for both sides. I am open minded hence the "middle rules" argument from me...
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:35 pm
    Bacon taste good... pork chops taste good.

    The End
  117. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 8:37 pm
    I`d probably go vegetarian if I could walk into a shop and buy cheap vegetarian ready-made meals in which the protein contained all the required amino acids in the right proportions (as meat does). In other words, if someone else had spent the time needed to ensure I got an adequate diet from plants. A freezer full of those and a bottle of B12 tablets and I`d be fine with being vegetarian.
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    runt514 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:42 pm
    As a vegetarian and rational human, the photo makes no sense. Do people really think that vegetarians eat grass? Especially grass that come from a cow pasture... well in case you are unsure, we don`t. Actually if anyone did research, you would know that eating meat means that you ingest a high about of feces from the processing of said
    meat. There are thousands of reports that will show you the same. So reconsider this image, as in all likelihood, you eat poo, lol.
  119. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:44 pm
    I found those 2 word online... thanks man it really did work. Now Me Smrt like you?

    Here`s another word for you to look up: tautology.

    Feel free to continue attempting to deride me because I use English fairly well. You might do better next time. You still won`t have a point, of course.
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    Stelly Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:46 pm
    >Runt514 " So reconsider this image, as in all likelihood, you eat poo, lol."

    lmfao, do you know what the BEST fertilizer is that is used by 99% of farms to grow their corn, wheat, etc.....lmfao
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    gamerdude94 Male 13-17
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:47 pm
    I don`t know any vegetarians who eat grass.
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    runt514 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:49 pm
    @>Stelly, if you know anything about basic botany, you would know that because a plant grows in manure, it does not mean that it is manure. If you eat a steak, you are not vegetarian because it eats corn.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:55 pm
    Back on topic... yea you do make good points, I`ll admit.. but you ARE very pretentious.

    And I`m not going to look up your big fancy dancy word cause I don`t want to be having you remind me of how stupid you think I am.

    *I am now sticking my tongue at the computer screen* ... cause thats how roll.

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    runt514 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 8:56 pm
    Stelly, do you consider yourself of the same intellectual fortitude of cro-magnon man? Also, if you actually know history the vast majority of ancestors survived by the gathering method, not hunting. Also the big difference with now and "history" is the sheer magnitude of humans who eat meat, we can not survive in a sustainable manner if we continue to gorge ourselves on meat.
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    runt514 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:00 pm
    Oh and B12... we are as most of you know in the mammal family, i.e. we actually create B12.
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    Stelly Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:01 pm
    >Runt, so a potato that is sitting in manure doesn`t count, or a tomato, carrot, onion? Well of course it doesn`t because it is washed and/or cooked. But isn`t meat washed and/or cooked as well...Thanks for unknowingly invalidating your own original argument (and my reply too)...
  127. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:03 pm
    Back on topic... yea you do make good points, I`ll admit.. but you ARE very pretentious.

    No. I`m just used to using English fairly well. There is no pretence involved, no false claim to importance. Just a moderate competence with English.

    And I`m not going to look up your big fancy dancy word cause I don`t want to be having you remind me of how stupid you think I am.

    I don`t know how stupid you are. You might be playing a role for a laugh (I think you are). You might be intelligent but not well educated.

    A tautology is a phrase saying the same thing twice with different words, as you did when you tried to insult me with longer words that you looked up in a dictionary.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    Stelly... Do you realize how much poop lands on your toothbrush if its within 6 feet of a poop filled toilet after you flush it?

    Me either but I`m sure its a CRAP LOAD.. LOL
  129. Profile photo of Stelly
    Stelly Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:06 pm
    >Runt - If I had "the same intellectual fortitude of cro-magnon man" and I was hungry I would go find food and eat whether it be plant or animal. I still stick with my "Omnivores rule" and history has and will prove it..............
  130. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 9:06 pm
    Oh and B12... we are as most of you know in the mammal family, i.e. we actually create B12.

    We do (more accurately, the bacteria inside us do), but it`s made further down our digestive system than the part which can extract B12.

    So our poo contains B12 that we made, but our bodies don`t. The B12 we make is only useful if we eat our own dung. Or someone else`s dung, of course, as the same thing applies to them.

    So now we know that the women in "2 Girls 1 Cup" are vegetarians! :)
  131. Profile photo of Stelly
    Stelly Male 30-39
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:09 pm
    >a1butcher, do you realize how much poop was consumed in 2 girls 1 cup...I`m getting to drunk and I`m done with this pointless flame war....You win, I lose, goodnight lol.....
  132. Profile photo of a1butcher
    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:09 pm
    Angilion... Very well stated my fine sir.
    I however is the best educted I could be under my server circumstances in my upbringing.
    I do hope you will find it in your heart and excuse my lack being on your level.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:10 pm
    Stelly... LOL Now thats funny!

    G`nite
  134. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:17 pm
    Also, if you actually know history the vast majority of ancestors survived by the gathering method, not hunting.

    Is that the currently favoured vegetarian historical revisionism?

    The vast majority of our ancestors did little or no gathering because farming was used instead, which led to large settlements, which led to increased population, which means that the vast majority of our ancestors lived relative recently (i.e. the last 10,000 years or so).

    But back when everyone lived as hunter-gatherers, both hunting and gathering were important. Meat was more important then than now because they had far less variety in the plants they ate (making it far harder or impossible to get enough of all the necessary amino acids) and no way to get B12 apart from eating meat or eating dung.
  135. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 9:21 pm
    I do hope you will find it in your heart and excuse my lack being on your level.

    It was you who ranted at me for my level of English, not the other way around. I`ve been insulting you in reply, not because of your level of English (which is probably better than average anyway).
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    Jaedon Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:22 pm
    I`m pretty sure on some David Attenborough documentary about the evolution of man that had our ape-like ancestors not evolved to eat meat then we`d never of had the protein needed to grow bigger brains. So purely from a survival view, omnivorous is clearly the superior way to be. If everyone became vegan we`d all evolve to be vegan only and it is always better to stay as diverse as possible. If the technology to make supplements was lost in time then I`d assume we`d revert back to smaller brains.

    Granted I`m talking about a hypothetical future but losing a technology could happen for a multitude of reasons, apocolyptic disaster, any number of unforseeable things that might happen when humans colonize other planets... My point anyway, better to lose a tech than a superior form of evolution. Eat meat for humanity`s future! Huzzah!
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:44 pm
    I have checked several dictionaries for the definition of carnivore, and nowhere does it say that a carnivore must eat meat exclusively. In fact the some examples they cite, which include bears and raccoons, eat a considerable amount of vegetable matter.

    So to say that carnivores ONLY eat meat is incorrect.

    Check for yourself if you don`t believe me. Post a rebuttal if you can find one.

    OneLook
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:49 pm
    OldOllie..I`m sure Angilion will be along shortly to refine you statement down to a few dozen paragraphs .LOL
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 1, 2010 at 9:53 pm
    My dog eats poop and grass on occasion. Made me puke once when she ate poop and then barfed it up and started eating it again.
    Thats when I barfed and she ate that too.
    Mind you it was mostly meat barf.
  140. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 10:13 pm
    Check for yourself if you don`t believe me. Post a rebuttal if you can find one.

    I have one in my head.

    I have repeatedly stated that some animals classed as carnivores eat some plants, so that part of your rebuttal doesn`t apply very well.

    How do you define `omnivore`? Do you reject the word entirely? If you define `carnivore` as an animal that eats meat and plants, `omnivore` becomes a useless word.

    Come to think of it, what statement of mine are you disagreeing with? Would you quote it or refer to when I posted it?
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    614188 Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 10:18 pm
    nice one

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    Pingas Male 13-17
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    May 1, 2010 at 10:20 pm
    "I have checked several dictionaries for the definition of carnivore, and nowhere does it say that a carnivore must eat meat exclusively. In fact the some examples they cite, which include bears and raccoons, eat a considerable amount of vegetable matter.

    So to say that carnivores ONLY eat meat is incorrect. "

    *sigh* Carnivores eat only meat, Herbivores eat only plants. OMNIVORES(!!!) eat BOTH.
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    Uncle_T Male 13-17
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    May 1, 2010 at 10:37 pm
    dude thats drating epic
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    CurlybackJoe Male 18-29
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    May 1, 2010 at 11:31 pm
    I loooooves me a good steak ;)
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    limphotdog Female 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 12:28 am
    Meh, cows eat grass as well. Also in a lot of main stream slaughter houses they get their own sh*t caked on them so much that when they do get slaughtered, some of the sh*t stays on the meat (even when the fur gets taken off.)
    Let`s not forget all the fecal matter in fast food restaurants as well, which was pointed out on an infograph a while back on this site.
    So really, everyone eats sh*t. That`s life though, right?
  146. Profile photo of Ten_Speed
    Ten_Speed Male 30-39
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    May 2, 2010 at 12:30 am
    When will vegans and vegetarians stop this non-sense?!?!?
    Meat is a natural part of the human diet. We (modern man), beat Neanderthals out because we didn`t need to consume six to seven thousand or more calories a day, with 90% of that made up from eating meat. Our calorie intake was less then four thousand per day. There were twice as many as us if not more compared to them. We out competed them for the limited supplies of meat. We also supplemented our diets with grains and vegetables. Humans are and always will be Omnivores.
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    Ten_Speed Male 30-39
    19 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 12:44 am
    Want proof? The human body can and will digest raw meat that has been left out for up to two weeks or more. Up to a certain point this is actually better for us. It allows the enzymes to start to break down the meat and it also produces probiotics. We see this happen all the time in third world. Why are they able to do this? Because humans are made to consume meat. Anyone of us could do this at any time. For a while, those of us who eat fresh meat that`s cooked would be sick until our digestion systems returned to normal. Name grains or vegetables that won`t poison or cause a host of other issues. Rye, wheat, potatoes, tomatoes, and soy. There are far too many to name here.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    May 2, 2010 at 12:47 am
    > Pingas
    > *sigh* Carnivores eat only meat, Herbivores eat only plants. OMNIVORES(!!!) eat BOTH

    From the guide to dog care my vet gave me: "Dogs are carnivores, but the term is not exact, as it has been found that most carnivores eat grass occasionally to aid digestion. Additionally, breeds such as the Border Collie, originally from Scotland, have a high component of wild grains in their natural diet."
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    TysonRP Male 13-17
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    May 2, 2010 at 12:55 am
    I just found out that apparently I am a vegetarian. One form of vegetarianism is simply not eating red meat, which I can`t do because I am allergic to something in it.

    Being a vegetarian sucks, you can`t eat good tacos.
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    akabane Male 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 1:13 am
    @TysonRP Fish tacos rock. Just depends where you get them from.
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    rakoonhat Female 30-39
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    May 2, 2010 at 1:48 am
    ~i have an anthropology book for sell if you want to bring up Neanderthals, its good for those incorrect facts
    ~to put this in equilibrium: the cow poops, you eat it whether its in the cow or smothered on a dandelion
    ~cows are just getting sexier by the minute
  152. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 2:35 am
    @Ten_Speed

    "Because humans are made to consume meat."

    Humans weren`t "made" for anything. We evolved. Big difference.

    We evolved into a niche where we could scrape a living where we could, and being able to pick rotting meat from carcasses left by predators helped our chances; thus such traits were preserved.

    So if you want to live by your evolutional programming, go ahead; help yourself to some rotting zebra corpse in the Savannah.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 2:42 am
    @Ten_Speed

    "Meat is a natural part of the human diet."

    Show me another animal that, of its own volition, wears clothing. Until you do, go ahead and stop that perversion of wearing clothes; it`s clearly not natural, and you seem quite hung up on humans behaving naturally.

    Saying nothing of your computer use.
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    Max_Normal Male 30-39
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    May 2, 2010 at 3:01 am
    "a1butcher
    Bacon taste good... pork chops taste good.
    The End"

    This is one of the few posts here that makes any sense to me. My GF is a strict vegetarian, a Doctor of Biochemistry, a personal fitness trainer and has a particular interest in nutrition and ecology. I am also a biochemist, I work on muscle stem cells and I love a big juicy steak (organic only). Most of the points here suggest that we should eat meat because we evolved to, which we certainly did. However, you have not addressed 1) The frequency of mean in our ancestors diet 2)(and this is an important one) The bioavailability of the meat, ie. how it is prepared effects how it effects us physiologically, 3) All historical meat was organic and free-range, wild buffalo do not come in ground beef form full of steroid hormones.
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    Max_Normal Male 30-39
    501 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 3:10 am
    Moroever, I have read the peer-review journals that prove that vegitarianism is much more healthy for the human metabolism and far less likely to cause disease, as well as potentially enabling all of the world to have a healthy diet while massively lowering global warming. Personally, I only eat organic free-range meat a couple of times a week to try and minimise the damage to myself and the environment. Sorry fellow meat eaters, but at least I`m honest. If you don`t believe me you can read "the China study" which is a good laymans reference. If you give a poo and just like meat, thats fine too, but lets be honest about the facts eh?
  156. Profile photo of Mikeado
    Mikeado Male 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 3:36 am
    I get the joke - sophisticated as it was - but who eats grass? Surely the cows are just pooting on their own food?
  157. Profile photo of pui
    pui Female 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 4:55 am
    Musuko42, human beings don`t have fur, they don`t have sharp fangs or claws, they don`t have camouflage... What has let us survive is our intelligence. Since we do not have the ability to slice through food like a tiger can, we invited knives. Since we cannot keep warm or protect our skin on our own like an animal with fur does, we wear clothes.

    I would argue that those things are not unnatural at all. Our intelligence is the trait which makes us an enduring species. Just because we`re the only species that survives this way (in such a big way), does not mean that we are unnatural.
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    BlackiPod Male 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 5:12 am

  159. Profile photo of a1butcher
    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 2, 2010 at 7:03 am
    PUI " Just because we`re the only species that survives this way (in such a big way), does not mean that we are unnatural."

    I agree with EVERYTHING you have said so far. Even the above statement, however, we have made ourselves unnatural.
    The way we travel is unnatural , ie. flying... we were nevr naturally meant to fly.
    The way we communucate ,ie. instantalty across vast distances
    The way we eat and gather food, ie. going to McDonald or the grocery store and buying frozen diners.
    All these actions ,to me, are the farthest thing from "natural" I can think of. We did use our brains to get to this point in human development but at what cost? Humans continue to strive to distance ourselves from nature which is quit sad really.

    Even still, nothing beats a thick juicy BBQ steak and cold beer.
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    howlingwolf Male 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 7:13 am
    Wow Max Normal...overkill much?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 2, 2010 at 7:25 am
    Lionhart2, Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:47:13 AM:

    From the guide to dog care my vet gave me: "Dogs are carnivores, but the term is not exact, as it has been found that most carnivores eat grass occasionally to aid digestion. Additionally, breeds such as the Border Collie, originally from Scotland, have a high component of wild grains in their natural diet."

    Angilion, Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:12:19 PM:

    Strictly speaking, carnivores are animals that eat *only* meat. The definition gets stretched a bit to include animals that sometimes eat a little plant material as a natural part of their diet. The carnivore/omnivore/herbivore split is nice and neat but reality is more of a spectrum than three discrete groups.

    Are we really disagreeing about the definition of `carnivore`?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 7:29 am
    Wow Max Normal...overkill much?

    What are you talking about? They wrote a very brief summary. Their position is a moderate one. How on earth is that strongly overkill?
  163. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 7:41 am
    All these actions ,to me, are the farthest thing from "natural" I can think of. We did use our brains to get to this point in human development but at what cost? Humans continue to strive to distance ourselves from nature which is quit sad really.

    On the one hand: An unknown cost and a feeling of "quite sad really".

    On the other hand: Extended life, all medicine, the transmission of knowledge further than a few feet, reliable food supply, hugely improved shelter, reliable drinkable water supply...that`ll do to begin with.

    A hunter-gatherer`s life might be more natural, but that doesn`t mean it`s better.

    An alternative argument is that humans are natural, therefore what they do is natural. Our intelligence and aptitude for tool use are a natural part of us, so surely using them is natural?
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    Smileyguy1 Male 30-39
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    May 2, 2010 at 7:45 am
    People, this is one topic (of many) that has no wrong or right. Everyone has their point of view. Eat what you want to eat. Call yourself what you will. What`s wrong are those who try to ram their opinions on others in hopes to make themselves feel superior in some shallow way.

    It`s amazing how many retorts stem from one photo of a cow doing its natural business. It`s not like it`s a child in distress.

    I`ve said my peace.
  165. Profile photo of a1butcher
    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 2, 2010 at 7:55 am
    Angilion... You just lurk in the shadows waiting to spew your wisdom or what?
    You totally missed the point I was getting at.

    We have made ourselves unnatural, was the point I was trying to get across to.... oh never mind.
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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    May 2, 2010 at 7:57 am

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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 2, 2010 at 8:01 am
    LOL @ GothicQueen GOOD ONE!!!!!
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    paddyt07 Male 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 8:06 am
    Surprisingly, I don`t actually eat grass.
  169. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 2, 2010 at 8:11 am
    You totally missed the point I was getting at.

    We have made ourselves unnatural, was the point I was trying to get across to.... oh never mind.

    Your point was that we have made ourselves unnatural.

    I replied that (i) making ourselves unnatural isn`t necessarily a bad thing, that it has a great many benefits and (ii) it could be argued that modern life is natural because it stems from humans using intelligence and tool use, two things that are natural for humans.

    How on earth do you conclude that I missed your point when I replied so directly to it? That doesn`t make any sense.
  170. Profile photo of a1butcher
    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 2, 2010 at 8:27 am
    My point was.... Can you fly? No you can`t. It is UNNATURAL for humans to fly.
    Yes we used our brains to figure it out and make machines, also unnatural.
    We buy our food when all other animals must hunt, scavenge etc. also unnatural.
    Sure they are "natural" to us but not in nature.

    We have distanced ourselves from nature.

    That was my point that you missed and will continue to miss, I am sure.
    You did to reply directly, since you stated how it makes our lives better. I`m not disagreeing with you, I`m just trying to show how "unnatural" we are.
    I can agree to disagree.
    Can you?
  171. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 8:47 am
    I can agree to disagree.
    Can you?

    I disagree that I`ve missed your point. I addressed your point directly, showing that there was another side to it. I gave a direct counter-argument to your point. I stated your point. Your point is simple and straightforward.

    I`ll ask again - why do you think I`m missing your point, despite all this evidence that I am not and despite the total lack of evidence that I am?
  172. Profile photo of a1butcher
    a1butcher Male 40-49
    4809 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 8:56 am
    Angilion.. just forget it.
    I`m quit tired of this debate.
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    skaterboy17 Male 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 9:54 am
    Lol at flame war.
  174. Profile photo of Ten_Speed
    Ten_Speed Male 30-39
    19 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 9:56 am
    @ Musuko42 I am right. Does not matter how you try to use you`re smoke and mirrors. You haven`t disproved a single thing I said. Humans are not and never have been a niche species. Call it whatever you want. Evolution still made it so we can eat meat. Humans have never been a scavager species either. I`m sure that there were times when man did eat meat that other animals killed out of opurtounity. Primates are known to use tools and wear primative clothing. How about the octopus that wears sea shells and coconut shells are armor? I guess that doesn`t count as clothing because its not to you`re liking huh?
  175. Profile photo of Ten_Speed
    Ten_Speed Male 30-39
    19 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 10:00 am
    @ Musuko42 and if man hadnt been meant to eat meat, we would be able to eat far more grains and vegetables than we are. Agian as I stated before, name one grain that doesn`t cause serious health issues if we eat it once it`s started to rot. There is a reason why we can eat meat once it starts to do that.
  176. Profile photo of razlem
    razlem Male 13-17
    533 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 10:23 am
    Um. We have canine teeth for a reason...

    The meat also carries immunities to plant diseases that we don`t get as humans. Vegetarians often have food-related illnesses.
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    SwampOphelia Female 18-29
    18 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 10:39 am
    Um, but the food that the meat eaters consumes eats the grass that it poos on...just pointing that out.
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    alchemist18 Female 13-17
    356 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 10:43 am
    Humans are designed to eat meat.
    Some don`t want to.
    They are idiots...but whatever floats their boats.
    The end.
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    vitaliy Male 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 10:44 am
    Arguement against humans being herbivores that I just thought of: we are unable to digest fibers like cellulose.

    But seriously, its a personal choice, who cares?
  180. Profile photo of cheese6969
    cheese6969 Male 18-29
    522 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 10:48 am
    I`m not trying to debate anyone, but I live next to a farm and the cows poo on each other a lot...yeah
  181. Profile photo of Thetas
    Thetas Male 18-29
    1540 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    Ah, Jesus, this arguing is so dumb.
    We have teeth designed to eat both meat and plants.
    End of story.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 2:41 pm
    nice! caption sums it up!
  183. Profile photo of Linkenberger
    Linkenberger Male 18-29
    1164 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    I`m a meatitarian. It`s a lifestyle choice that I demand you respect.
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    get2chopper Male 18-29
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    May 2, 2010 at 4:32 pm
    Eating a steak while reading this made it even more enjoyable
  185. Profile photo of shappy
    shappy Male 18-29
    757 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 7:55 pm
    but normal people eat both meat AND plants...
  186. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 2, 2010 at 10:19 pm
    Come to think of it, what statement of mine are you disagreeing with?

    Angilion, I never mentioned your name or quoted anything you posted. What makes you think this is all about you?
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    PoonHat Male 18-29
    194 posts
    May 2, 2010 at 11:12 pm
    drat this. Respect vegetarians and eat your drating meat. I do.
    Honestly.
  188. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 3, 2010 at 12:12 am
    Angilion, I never mentioned your name or quoted anything you posted. What makes you think this is all about you?

    So who was the "you" you mentioned in your post? Given that your post was about a definition I`d used shortly before, when you said "Check for yourself if you don`t believe me. Post a rebuttal if you can find one." I thought that you were referring to me.
  189. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    May 3, 2010 at 1:25 am
    @Ten_Speed

    We`re not "meant" to do anything. We`re not "designed" by anyone. And my point about clothing being unnatural was to point out how stupid it is to use what`s natural as part of the argument, because who decides what`s natural or what isn`t? I`m sorry you didn`t get that.

    Who cares what kind of teeth I have? Why should I obey my "design" instead of my brain and desires? My canines give me the option to eat meat, but I choose not to because I don`t want to. I`m not stopping you from choosing differently. So why are you trying to claim my preference is "unnatural"? I get enough of that crap over my sexuality. I don`t need it over my dinner.

    I found the picture amusing.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    May 3, 2010 at 3:21 am
    2 points to GothicQueen for humor, and an additional point for Moderator Recognition and Agreement.
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    hrlhrl2000 Male 30-39
    136 posts
    May 3, 2010 at 4:02 am
    Vegetarians don`t eat grass.

    We actually have vegetarian bodies (we don`t have genuine canines, have weak stomach acid not suited to dissolving meat, long intestinal tracts etc) although eating meat in small quantities is probably not overly harmful. Peace out!
  192. Profile photo of Prejudiced
    Prejudiced Female 18-29
    250 posts
    May 3, 2010 at 4:15 am
    "Vegetarians don`t eat grass.

    We actually have vegetarian bodies (we don`t have genuine canines, have weak stomach acid not suited to dissolving meat, long intestinal tracts etc) although eating meat in small quantities is probably not overly harmful. Peace out!"

    Yet we can`t digest cellulose, something damn useful to a herbivore.

    Regardless, westerners eat too much meat. It`s something like a plate half filled with a chop, and a little, tiny bit of greenery on the side. Thats not healthy at all. Thats "colon cancer 30 years later" not healthy. Therefore I would argue a balanced vegetarian diet is much more healthy then the traditional western diet. However, meat is healthy, the way we consume it is not.

    On that note, producing things like soy products and shipping them can take up more resources (and hence be worse `for the world`) then buying locally raised meat (no shipping, no transport) on many occasions. Yes land used yes,
  193. Profile photo of Prejudiced
    Prejudiced Female 18-29
    250 posts
    May 3, 2010 at 4:17 am
    * Yes land used yes, but not always the best! :)

    Was the last part of my post, sorry it was cut off.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    May 3, 2010 at 8:20 am

  195. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 3, 2010 at 9:42 am
    We actually have vegetarian bodies (we don`t have genuine canines, have weak stomach acid not suited to dissolving meat, long intestinal tracts etc) although eating meat in small quantities is probably not overly harmful. Peace out!

    We actually don`t. You`re being selective about what you consider and what you ignore. For example, our digestive system is longer than that of a carnivore our size (you consider that) but shorter than that of a herbivore our size (you ignore that). We can`t digest common plant material. We can`t survive without B12, which we can`t get from any plant. We need a wider range of amino acids than can be obtained from any plant.

    Our bodies are not as well adapted to eating meat as a carnivore.

    Our bodies are not as well adapted to eating plants as a herbivore.

    We are adapted to being omnivores. To use your phrasing, we have omnivorous bodies.
  196. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 3, 2010 at 11:29 am
    If you do see that, you should seek professional help because you are hallucinating.

    Good luck. It`s probably curable.
  197. Profile photo of Link364
    Link364 Male 18-29
    440 posts
    May 3, 2010 at 11:44 am
    Hey Angilion, how come every time you comment, you make a lecture out of it.
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    fishgul69 Female 18-29
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    May 3, 2010 at 12:50 pm
    HA!
  199. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 3, 2010 at 2:37 pm
    Hey Angilion, how come every time you comment, you make a lecture out of it.

    Your post is in the form of a question, but you have ended it with a full stop instead of a question mark. That is an elementary error, so I mark you down accordingly.

    Here endeth the English lecture.

    Are you complaining about my sarcasm towards fools, the fact that my posts are longer than a sentence or the fact that I can write fairly good English?
  200. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 3, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    a1butcher, how did you get to your age without having any idea what a troll is in the context of the net? Look it up. It`s never too late to educate yourself.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    May 3, 2010 at 11:11 pm
    Angilion, a pronoun requires an antecedent to have a specific reference; otherwise, "you" refers to the reader -- any reader.
  202. Profile photo of mamba
    mamba Male 18-29
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    May 4, 2010 at 8:26 am
    of course, vegetarians eat grass, and all these years i thought i was vege
  203. Profile photo of Link364
    Link364 Male 18-29
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    May 5, 2010 at 6:37 am
    Angilion, you didn`t really answer my statement question. Oh, and don`t be a dousche about it either.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 21, 2010 at 6:55 am
    Angilion "write fairly good English? "


    I believe the correct way to say it is..
    write English fairly WELL.

    I`m back from the future. Woohahaha

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