Military Torture: An Infographic [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 7 years ago in

Damn, who thought wartime torture was so complicated?
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Male 2,486
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Because OBVIOUSLY every single person ever incarcerated in Guantanamo without trial is directly capable, willing, and planning to kill Americans. There is no possibility that any such Gestapo arrests were done in error.

And, of course, we can show that we are the most developed, advanced country by indulging in sadism and ignoring human rights in the process."

Huh? I never said anything about Guantanamo bay. I meant exactly what I said and nothing more. IMO, someone throws their rights as a living human being out the window once they try to unjustly kill another.
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Male 4,594
I think that staring at Sarah Jessica Parker`s face for 10 minutes could be the worst torture ever.
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Female 423
fail lionheart...
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Male 2,220
"I`d rather be tortured than beheaded"

Slow beheading it is then!
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Female 3
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Female 709
I`d like the meet the twisted fellow who came up with the Judas Cradle torture device. You know he was pointing to the doll for his counselor.
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Male 2,893
you go all Jack Bauer on his ass.
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Male 2,220
"So if a serial killer kidnapped your family and planned to kill them with in the hour and you were able to catch his accomplice who knew exactly where they were, what would you do? Offer him milk and cookies and ask him politely?
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How do you know you`ve got his accomplice? How do you know you`ve not got someone that looks like his accomplice? Or was totally unaware of the pyscho`s plans? How do you know the accomplice knows where they are? How do you know that you`re not the delusional whacko in this situation, acting out a sick fantasy? You don`t, but hey YOUR property might be at risk, so its justified right?

But yes, taking your scenario at face value, you can verify this information, so if I was certain I could get the info, I would consider torture.
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Male 1,455
" I`m sure your family is glad to know you wouldn`t save their lives if it meant hurting the person or people directly associated with that person that were also in on it because you`d be hurting someone."

Because OBVIOUSLY every single person ever incarcerated in Guantanamo without trial is directly capable, willing, and planning to kill Americans. There is no possibility that any such Gestapo arrests were done in error.

And, of course, we can show that we are the most developed, advanced country by indulging in sadism and ignoring human rights in the process.
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Male 8,302
Why doesn`t Amnesty International do something useful for once, like investigating whether spamming your shoe sales site 100 time a day is defined as torture.
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Male 2,486
"So what? I would hope i havethe strenght inside of me not to wish harm like that on someone regardless of the situation but if not then thank god there ARE people out there who do believe what I do and would uphold the law and can think rationally for me when I am unable to. Just because something hits close to home doesn`t automatically make it okay to torture someone. So your point is null and void.I still wouldn`t change my opinion."

I`m REALLY glad I`m not part of your family. I`m sure your family is glad to know you wouldn`t save their lives if it meant hurting the person or people directly associated with that person that were also in on it because you`d be hurting someone. What do you gain by being passive and nice? A dead loved one? Yeah, great, AWESOME way to go about things. Personally, if someone was trying to kill a loved one of mine, I would do everything in my power to make sure they died very painfully and slowly.
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Female 7,866
Dom, do us all a favour and send her home- even if only long enough that they can take a recent photo. Then we can all play hunt with better info. Ta!!!
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Male 894
aaahahahahaha, i just got some awesome bondage ideas
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Female 4,376
So if a serial killer kidnapped your family and planned to kill them with in the hour and you were able to catch his accomplice who knew exactly where they were, what would you do? Offer him milk and cookies and ask him politely?

I think you might change your stance if that was the case.*

So what? I would hope i havethe strenght inside of me not to wish harm like that on someone regardless of the situation but if not then thank god there ARE people out there who do believe what I do and would uphold the law and can think rationally for me when I am unable to. Just because something hits close to home doesn`t automatically make it okay to torture someone. So your point is null and void. I still wouldn`t change my opinion.
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Male 2,737
I think that torture is necessary. Even just for fun.
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Male 2,748
Yea, off topic, but The war on drugs is a joke, Nixon didn`t know what he was doing. and i think torture is a little outdated... interesting topic tho. some of those medieval machines are freakin crazy!!
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Male 637
"I don`t support torture at all for any reason but whatever. My opinion don`t mean much to the blood thirsty masses."

So if a serial killer kidnapped your family and planned to kill them with in the hour and you were able to catch his accomplice who knew exactly where they were, what would you do? Offer him milk and cookies and ask him politely?

I think you might change your stance if that was the case.
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Male 637
"Torture simply doesn`t work as a way of getting accurate information."

That right there is false, is it 100% accurate no, of course not, but when it does work it can be used to save lives, I think the threat of torture which has now been taking away is actually more important the the torture itself.
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Male 15,832
1. Torture does not produce reliable intelligence.
2. Waterboarding DOES produce reliable intelligence. Therefore,
3. Waterboarding isn`t torture.

Simple logic.
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Male 637
Mancow wasn`t even water boarded, he had water splashed on his face for 4 seconds,the guy is a douche.
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Female 4,376
I don`t support torture at all for any reason but whatever. My opinion don`t mean much to the blood thirsty masses.
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Male 1,918
Ya no torture in Canada
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Female 654
its a good thing we didnt ask for your opinion then
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Male 2,796
"Torture is a violation of human rights, and to allow or condone it is criminal under domestic and international law. And ANY organization that use torture becomes worse than the enemy that they are trying to fight. Torture has been proven statistically ineffective over and over again. Why is it still being used? Revenge reflex, i thinks, it sure as poo not `civilized` "

Other things that are statistically ineffective:

1. Public Education
2. The Sex Offenders "rehabilitation" prgram.
3. The war on drugs
4. Social Security

Shall I go on? Now quit being For-The-Moment warriors by making all of these awesome humanitarian comments and go actually "do" something about it if you feel so drating strongly.
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Female 533
The only info I will retain from that is "Good, I am glad that somebody waterboarded Mancow." DICK
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Male 10,440
Oh, and I support the majority here, torture is bad, yada yada yada...

There are bigger problems in the world though. Hunger, AIDS and war for instance.
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Male 1,455
"I don`t get it. Am I supposed to feel bad for the terrorist dirt bag who got tortured? I`m confused. "

Because nothing says `civilized country` like forfeiting all human rights for people we label guilty...
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Male 10,440
[quote] Infographics are fake, all of them [/quote]

Sounds like you could use a little torture.
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Female 1,963
Reading these comments makes me weep for humanity a little bit. Torture simply doesn`t work as a way of getting accurate information. The only function it can possibly serve is to punish, and I don`t believe in punishment when it serves no purpose beyond punishment.
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Male 1,455
"There is no victim.. These people have already lost their souls by being willing to commit these horrible acts.."

Because obviously every single person thrown into jail without trial, representation, or explanation MUST be so guilty that their lives are forfeit and we may treat them like animals. The government has never made mistakes of this sort and history shows it can be trusted to responsibly handle this sort of power.

Of course.
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Male 21
I don`t get it. Am I supposed to feel bad for the terrorist dirt bag who got tortured? I`m confused. ...Unless I`m supposed to feel bad he didn`t get it more. In that case, it worked.
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Female 1,441
Stop trying to feed the users of this site such BS information. Wtf is wrong with you IAB?
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Female 467
then damn english people should be up in the 100 scale of torture. after been so greedy stealing land and torturing my people. the reason why ireland is not in the countrys that didnt use torture is because the english deserved it back.
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Male 90
Any upper hand we can make against these terrorist monsters who want to kill innocent people i say we take.

Even if we have to torture 100 of these sick murderers to save one life, thats worth it. There is no victim.. These people have already lost their souls by being willing to commit these horrible acts..
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Male 422
Yep crax, but they`re needed to balance out the pussy liberals.
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Male 1,222
Infographics are fake, all of them
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Male 55
So conservative Christians are violent retards, what else is new?
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Male 2,796
This inforgraphic is riddled with false information, half truths and (some) just plain made-up lies.
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Male 2,229
Torture is a violation of human rights, and to allow or condone it is criminal under domestic and international law. And ANY organization that use torture becomes worse than the enemy that they are trying to fight. Torture has been proven statistically ineffective over and over again. Why is it still being used? Revenge reflex, i thinks, it sure as poo not `civilized`
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Male 275
the information in the beginning seems impossible to obtain, let alone being reliable.
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Male 575
why the comparison with religious people? That`s just looking for trouble isn`t it?
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Male 181
I hate typos in what are supposed to be well-researched infographics. It makes me so mad I can barely breath!
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Male 959
Nothing has changed since the days of Torquemada leading the Spaionish inquisition. Anything goes when you think "God" is on your side.
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Female 3,598
the thing about torture, is that if you hurt somebody long enough, they`ll tell you anything you want to hear, just to make the torture stop. but that doesn`t mean what they say is true or accurate. they may just admit to something they had nothing to do with, just to stop the pain. they may make stuff up off the top of their heads, how are we to sift through the false info and the true info? there is no way. torture produces nothing. you can get the same information from interrogation.
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Male 776
ahh the old thumbscrew.... those crazy lonely nights...
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Female 322
I totally agree with silverthread.
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Male 4,746
Canada the best country in the world!
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Male 25,416
What no torture reported in austrailia, i reported coming home to a big lecture from my wife after a big night,! that was torture, i just reported it to my mates :)
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Male 15,510
:-(
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Male 2,893
Anyone who says torture doesn`t work should be tortured.
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Male 274
Whats the big deal with washboarding? thats how my dad gets me to go to sleep.
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Female 934
"Isn`t religion funny?"

Yeah, it`s a real knee-slapper.
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Female 4,028
Isn`t religion funny?
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Male 599
"36% of Americans are un-American."

why? because they realize that torture can be used to get badly needed information from people who are literally the scum of the earth?
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Male 39
as a person who has read every wikipedia article on torture, I find it highly entertaining in the very least. "the saw" is by far the best. I`d check it out.

http://www.medievality.com/saw.html
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Male 3,431
Yeah Torture is effing wrong, it`s evil, and it doesn`t friggin` work unless your intention is to make the victim suffer. It is, in my opinion, *NEVER* justified. EVER. Not for intelligence, not for punishment, not for sake of setting an example. Never.

That being said, if you determine someone to be an enemy combatant, they shouldn`t be taken prisoner, they should be killed, as quickly and painlessly as possible.

The gravity of this understanding will keep those who are not 100% committed to their cause at home and out of war and should see to the utter and complete annihilation of anyone interested in war as an enterprise.

You cannot win a war against men your torture and then release. You will with dead certainty create more enemies of those who might otherwise have been ambivalent to your cause.
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Female 857
Makes me think of Goya`s Ghosts; `people will confess to anything under physical torture`. And that is about as close to this subject as I ever want to get!
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Male 7,378
36% of Americans are un-American.
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Male 273
so?
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Male 117
Ugh. Spelling fail in step 7.
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Male 4,867
oh crap, cobrakiller got me.
you win man.
and Maddy is doing fine, thanks for asking
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Female 2,927
dayum
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Male 508
It`s amazing. Every expert on torture has come out, at some point, and said it doesn`t actually work, and yet there`s a whole generation of rednecks out there that support it as a form of information gathering. I guess some places education and common sense are over-rated.
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Male 5,194
Knowing Mancow, he probably sat in another room while Turd spit on the window or something and then claimed he underwent "waterboarding".
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Male 176
Ouch - Death By Pressing
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Male 1,598
Canada and Japan continue to be awesome.
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Male 7,611
domisgood, how is madelaine?
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Male 4,867
yeah, torture isnt always effective/reliable.
If you beat and torture me enough times i`ll admit to having Madelaine McCain in my basement along with the gun that killed President Kennedy and the schematics of North Korea`s nuclear weapon development facility

(bonus round: 1 of those 3 points is true)
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Male 7,611
#3, duh, they have to sit through the torture of religious ceremony every week. oh, and judas cradle has always been one of my favorite devices. its just such a disgusting way to die; to be opened all the way up starting at the anal cavity is just an awful idea.
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Male 158
I HATE torture. But I LOOOVVEE abortion.
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Female 934
"In World War 2, a family member was captured by the Nazi`s and tortured him... He did not confess and all his teeth were smashed out of his mouth.

Unbelievable how some people do not confess after being tortured. Respect for them!"

That`s incredible! I don`t think I could stand getting my teeth smashed out and being interrogated at the same time.

Torturing people to achieve information is beyond me. I don`t agree with it, or support it, that is for sure.
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Male 774
opiebreath, agreed, No. 3 gave me a chuckle.
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Male 12,138
Religious people and Republicans more likely to support torture? Say it ain`t so!
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Male 2,700
Ill just give my take on it....I believe that torture can and does produce information that could save many lives....But for each person tortured, there is always a + to add to the victim numbers. While it may be their jobs, the torturers themselves must live with the sounds produced and the visions. I do not believe it should be used EVER! But as long as there is peace, there is war. Where there is war, there is torture...Another piece of collateral damage
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Female 7,866
There is no justification whatsoever for torture. There is no proof that any information gained is accurate, it prevents nothing, it merely makes things worse.
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Male 352
Torturing is actually very unreliable. It doesn`t mean that the person being tortured has to tell the truth. An elaborate lie will do equally as well, especially if it can`t be proven false.

As this infographic points out, information gained from torturing a person is never reliable.
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Male 5,314
well, don`t be a terrorist then.
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Female 15,763
Number 3 is my favorite.

Also, wasn`t 10 debunked or something? Like the guy planned it all along... I don`t know.
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Male 36
In World War 2, a family member was captured by the Nazi`s and tortured him... He did not confess and all his teeth were smashed out of his mouth.

Unbelievable how some people do not confess after being tortured. Respect for them!
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Male 20,188
Link: Military Torture: An Infographic [Pic] [Rate Link] - Damn, who thought wartime torture was so complicated?
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