James Jones Opens Speech With Anti-Semitic Joke

Submitted by: 5cats 7 years ago in

This is Obama"s National Security Advisor!! Racist Much? You decide.
There are 115 comments:
Male 442
@Sinclair because Judaism is a religion and not a race you drating moron
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Male 228
not racist.not anti-semitic. set a good tone for the speech. 100% non-offensive. if you find any racism or anti-semitism in this its because you were looking for it from within your own stereotypes
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Male 269
why must Jews have the word anti-semitic, why not say racist like the rest of the world?
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Male 771
Joke was pretty funny and it wasn`t in poor speech to start with that joke either the joke extremely relevant to most peoples economic situations they need help the help is out there for them but they can`t get the help they need.
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Female 1,062
I`m not sure how it`s anti semitic. Even without the racial identities of the people in joke, it would have been funny.
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Male 1,219
Racist? No. I thought it was rather funny.
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Male 9
not anti semitic or racist
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Male 40,756
AND THE WINNER IS: Not racist!
With second place going to "It`s in poor taste for a ranking government official to start a speech on econimoics with an ethnic joke" (I paraphrase heavily here, lolz!)
All things considered (with one OBVIOUS exception) this was an excellent discussion! I hope it releaved your boredom & you got some LoLs.

(joke)
ok, hahaha, this half-black, half-white guy gets elected President of the United States, see...
[quote]the remainder of this post has been edited because any joke about Mr Obama is racist, eh?[/quote]
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Male 833
yeah def not racist
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Female 247
I don`t think I really got the racial reference here...how is this racist?
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Male 334
Not racist at all. The word is thrown around far too often these days
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Male 5,626
I wouldn`t call that anti-Semitic and I thought it was quite good. In fact, the story has people disagreeing without shooting each other.
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Female 3,598
i meant PC, as in Politically Correct.
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Female 3,598
ok so anytime somebody anywhere mentions someone`s nationality it means it`s racist? i`m so sick of living in these bullsh*t PR times. everyone needs to stop being so sensitive over the little crap. i bet you that 95% of jewish people would find this joke HALARIOUS but here we are discussing it as though it has hurt your personal feelings. i think the definition for racism needs to be cleared up or changed or something.
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Male 7,378
Hey old man, Shut yer pie hole! People didn`t come to hear your stand-up routine.
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Female 1,306
I thought it was funny! Racist, whatever. I don`t even know what true racism is anymore.
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Male 17,511
This would be a good read for you LazyMe484. "Race" rights and the law in Canada`s Supreme Court
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Male 10,440
... and I smell a troll by the name of jeepjones.

5Cats may be wrong as usual, but that is no reason for 7 posts and personal insults.
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Male 10,440
[quote] In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws. [/quote]

I don`t live in the US. Are jews still a race for me?

Come on! This is trivial. jasonlowe is arguing that the earth is flat.

Jews are not a race.
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Male 40,756
[quote]You too 5Cats! LOL! Life too short to be worried about a joke you Dip S H I T![/quote]
Thank you jeepjones for you fair, unbiased opinions. You`ll notice I said "you decide" eh? So this is how Liberals conduct a conversation, thanks for your input. Slander, attacks, selective blindness, swearing. Oh, well done! Can`t argue with that, eh?
VV @pelcurus Outstanding first post! Welcome to IAB :-> don`t worry, not all IABers are as ignorant as jj is.
AND I point out again that this administration (with the help of the MSM) CONSTANTLY cries race, yet they themselves are pretty loose in that regard. This is not some low-level flunkey, he`s a guy who should have known better. Yet he`s given a free pass, eh?
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Male 332
it cast the Jewish merchant in a positive light, he was the clever protagonist
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Male 1
As a person who is quite adept at racial humor, I should point out that the original joke doesn`t mention anything about the Taliban. It`s just a guy wandering the desert and the Jewish owner asks if he`d like to buy a tie. The joke is racist because of the intent to point out the greed of the Jews. Just because he spun it to the direction of a despised group doesn`t make it any less racist.
True, he could`ve replaced the word Jew with merchant, but he didn`t. You can find the joke in almost any joke book with racial humor from the 80`s.
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Male 15
Totally not racist. It would be racist if he repeated the phases that the man used, this is simply a funny situation where a man gets back at someone for abusing him. Funny stuff, i may start using this.
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Female 1,963
How on EARTH was that anti-semitic? Because it was mentioned that the man was Jewish? Is there a stereotype about Jewish people being funny and clever that they mind and that is being perpetuated here or something? The nationalities, races or religions of any of the people in that joke were completely unrelated to the humour.
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Male 4,004
It could have been any other nationality and it could have been taken as racist/hateful.

His delivery was clean, and not mean to offend. He could have picked any other nationality/religion, but Jewish was the one that best fit the situation of the joke.
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Male 2
Pretty sure it wasnt racist
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Male 4,546
"I would only consider that anti semitic in the sense that Arabic people are Semites as well."

... everything ever is wrong with that sentence...

1) There were no Arabs in that joke. (Afghanistan has a fairly small Arab population, the the majority are Persian descent, which aren`t Arab).

2) It`s "ONLY" antisemitic in that you thought it was referring to the 95% of Semites on the planet instead of the remaining 5%?
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Male 275
that was an awesome joke. I would only consider that anti semitic in the sense that Arabic people are Semites as well.
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Male 35
LoL. Nice.
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Male 1,557
That wasnt racist or anti-semitic. It was just funny.
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Female 1,427
This isn`t racist. This was funny as hell. XD
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Male 554
Fartacus: Lighten up you tight A S S.
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Male 554
You too 5Cats! LOL! Life too short to be worried about a joke you Dip S H I T!
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Male 554
5Cats: Are you serious? I pitty the families of Winnipeg that have to deal with your s hi t ! Only a child care worker would be male & single with 5 Freakin Cats!
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Male 554
5Cats? are you freakin serious? Get a frikin life you lonely bastard (B I T Ch) that was freakin funny!!!!!
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Male 554
Fartacus: Lighten up you tight A S S.
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Male 554
Im sorry but that was funny as hell!
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Male 154
yeah this isnt anti semetic at all.
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Male 202
Dude... you are trying WAY too hard to find kinks in the admin... just relax, and if somethin wrong or stupid comes up.... itll be noticed... stop trying to find stuff (when it isnt, i suppose you just amplify something harmless into something offensive)
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Male 202
This is not anti semitic at all...

Hey, Im not an Obama admin supporter or anything, but I dont think you should go around LOOKING for things they do wrong or whatever...cause if they do something wrong or stupid, itll just come up...

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Male 3,369
Awww...poor Aerophyre is pissed because the Libs didn`t say anything offensive. Sorry to disappoint you bud, but if you`re having withdrals symptoms, you can always google Bill O`Really expressing his amazement that black people don`t scream "give me some M-Fing iced tea!" when they go out to eat.
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Female 798
I don`t see it as an anti-Semitic joke, I see it as a joke where a member of the Taliban is given a hard time by Jewish people.

Give it a rest and just laugh.
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Male 364
Not a `racist` joke...a rather funny one.

"kill all the yellow jews and there is one less problem! FREE PALISTINE!!!!!!!!!"

Islam...such a pleasure to share this world with.
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Female 85
Not exactly sure why he had to throw races into the joke to begin with..would`ve worked without them...seems pointless to just add them
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Male 3,431
Well you can cry and whinge about it being racist, or STFU and just laugh about the joke like the other 90% of the world.

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Male 40,756
[quote]Ethnic jokes are usually in poor taste.[/quote]
Thanks Fartacus, for shortening my rants for me :)
You have a kitty in your avater, you must be a smart person :heart:
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Male 56
kill all the yellow jews and there is one less problem! FREE PALISTINE!!!!!!!!!
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Female 529
Ethnic jokes are usually in poor taste.
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Male 40,756
Reinforcing a negative stereotype is, by definition, racism, eh?
Greedy (won`t share water)
Crafty (works a scam)
Heartless (see above)
If this were told with a Scotsman, would it be as funny? Scotsmen are stereotyped as cheap, er thrifty I mean, so no it wouldn`t make much sense eh?
Boadicea if Stephen Harper said this, you`d be fine with it? I think NOT!
Change "jew" to "negro" and is it still funny? NO!
I`m not saying this is KKK Komedy worthy, but I certianly expect the Obama administration, which SCREAMS RACISM at every oportunity, to make better choices, mmmm-kay?
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Female 3,562
I laughed and I`m ethnically Hebrew. I suppose the point of the joke might be that Jews control all businesses, which is highly inappropriate for the goddamn national security advisory to be saying, but it`s still a funny joke.
Jews are are race and a religion just like being Japanese can mean you`re either ethnically Japanese or you happen to be a citizen of Japan, regardless of your race. It can be either or both.
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Male 125
not the slightest bit. the "Racist much?" in the caption is a complete overreaction. i cant wait until the world ends and everyone dies
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Male 2,344
Oh man, this racist tension is killing me! When do I get to see it?
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Male 8,300
> LazyMe484
> Jews aren`t a race, it`s a religion. Get that through your empty skull.
> jasonlowe
> Jews are their own race. Get that through YOUR empty skull.

Guys, would you believe you`re BOTH right?

"In the 1980s, the United States Supreme Court ruled that Jews are a race, at least for purposes of certain anti-discrimination laws.
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But setting aside the emotional issues, Jews are clearly not a race. Race is a genetic distinction, and refers to people with shared ancestry and shared genetic traits. You can`t change your race; it`s in your DNA.
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Common ancestry is not required to be a Jew. Many Jews worldwide share common ancestry, as shown by genetic research; however, you can be a Jew without sharing this common ancestry."

Excerpted from this page at jewfaq.org
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Male 730
Judaism is actually a religion with some race aspects.
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Male 418
thats acculy pretty good
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Male 90
@LazyMe484

Actually, Jews are their own race. Get that through YOUR empty skull.
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Male 1,313
Yeah, how dare they make a joke about a jewish shop keeper being tricking the Taliban... it`s him you should all be pissed off for. Tsk tsk.
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Male 10,440
Ok first off, Jews aren`t a race, it`s a religion. Get that through your empty skull.

Second, if this is what the national security adviser does with his time, he`s being overpaid.
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Male 25,416
He is terrible at telling jokes!
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Male 129
Thats not racist at all. You`re a freaking moron.
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Male 46
There`s only one Jew left in Afghanistan.
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Male 428
I don`t really find that racist, it is funny though. I get tired of people calling anything racist if you even mention a race. People need to learn to laugh and not be insulted by everything.
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Female 412
Wow I have this joke in an old joke book from the 80s or 70s or so. However, in it, the people`s races are not specified. I don`t see why he had to add those?
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Male 914
that joke was awesome!
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Male 365
AntEconomist, by saying Jewish and the joke being about people trying to make money at all costs, it is acting up an ancient Jewish stereotype. That is why making the shop owner Jewish is racist.

I still found that hilarious, though and will be telling all my friends (I`m Jewish).
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Male 177
I am Jewish. I am not a fan of Obama. This joke is NOT RACIST. Choke on that bitches. You guys really let me down on this one. I was expecting some hate speech to throw in the face of all those damn smug liberals and you give me this. Granted, there was literally no need to throw the jewish adjective into the joke, which I could kind of see misconstrued into racism, but it didnt affect the joke one bit to have or not have it. So, TLDR: I = Jew, joke = kosher.
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Male 9,305
Funny joke, but not really an appropriate place for it.
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Male 1,378
LOL
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Male 17,511
It is slightly anti-semetic, But it`s funny too. He should`ve either dropped the "Jewish" part or told a different joke.
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Male 1,764
Holy crap, so people can be so race-sensitive it`s ridiculous. Even if the joke was racist, which it wasn`t, it`s a goddamn joke.
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Male 374
Oscola: "The reason it`s racist is why did the shop owner have to be Jewish."

So merely saying "Jewish" makes the joke racist? By that metric, Oscola, your comment is racist (as is mine).
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Female 1,677
Here`s some food for thought:

1) it`s a drating joke
2) it`s a drating joke
3) who gives a poo? it`s a JOKE
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Male 40,756
I`m in agreement with most IABers in that this is more lacking in taste or class than outright anti-semetic. This is a VERY HIGH guy on the Obama totem-pole, he or his handlers should have known better!
[quote]How is this even remotely racist?[/quote]
Heres how: 1) The two JEWS are in cahoots to force people to buy useless merchendise, something Jewish (and other minority) people are often accused of. Working within their own culture to rip-off all others.
2) What`s a Jew doing in Afghanistan? Wouldn`t a Pakistani be more likely as a local merchant?
3) It could simply be told as two brothers, no race need be mentioned AT ALL. Since he`s speaking to an American audience, the lost soldier could simply be an American, the two merchants local Afghanis, it would be ZERO offensive and more (I think) funny that way. But this guy CHOOSES to make a Jew joke in front of a NYC audience.
Things that make you go hummmm...
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Male 1,505
I found nothing anti-semitic about that...but I agree with duffytoler 100%. That joke is older than my great-great grandmother`s buckskin bra.
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Male 4,793
haha thats a good joke...no racism at all.
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Female 525
oh come on...what`s so racist about that? everybody knows all Jews are sneaky bastards..the guy`s just stating facts.
oh and, just so you won`t get confused next time, yes, it is also absolutely true that all Jews wear a little sack of gold around their necks.


on a more serious note, being half a dirty Jew, half a dirty non-Jew, and fully epicurean myself, i don`t find it offensive, the jewish folklore is full of jokes of that kind. though i`m pretty sure he`ll still get fire from the american rich fat jewish community nonetheless, his only crime being in not being a jew and telling a joke that kind.
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Male 5,194
FIRE THIS A-HOLE IMMEDIATELY!!! Not because the joke is anti-semitic (I don`t even think it is) but because anybody who would offer up this tired old chestnut and not tell it any better than that is clearly so out-of-touch he shouldn`t be allowed to be in charge of ANYTHING.
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Male 350
Lol. I am Jewish and this joke didn`t offend me. If anything it`s kind of intelligent.
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Male 833
racist? since when is jewish a race?
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Female 251
What? I thought it was bit funny.
I smiled and thought haaaaaaa
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Male 774
zzzZZZzzz
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Male 599
Just because a joke mentions a Jew doesn`t mean it`s Anti-Semitic. As much as I dislike Obama and his administration, this joke is not anti-Semitic at all.
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Male 30
Would the joke have worked if, instead of 2 Jews, it were 2 Scots? Yes. So is it "anti-semetic"? I would say "no".

But, the joke does leave room for inference of a stereotype. I`m sure I`ll get flammed for this... but I do think a government official of that level should be extra cautious not to offend. Rightly or wrongly, they and the body they represent will be scrutinized by allies and enemies.

I think this is like everything else from this administration: classless.
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Male 2,004
lol
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Male 976
Who the hell would think this is anti-Semitic? Lighten the drat up people.
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Male 5,314
how was that anti-semitic?
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Female 1,677
I didn`t hear an anti-semitic joke, I heard a funny one that was not offensive to anybody. People need to lighten the drat up.
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Female 665
poo, I lol`d.
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Male 7,378
If the Taliban happened across a Jewish shop keeper wouldn`t he simply kill him?
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Female 21
That was in no way racist or anti-Semitic...
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Male 153
AWESOME JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so sensitive people jeeze
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Male 1,254
Too much PC in the world of politics today. Great joke and if anyone is offended, I`d have a few of jokes that may well stop their hearts.
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Male 177
National Security Adviser should have more self-awareness and be more vigilant in his address.

The `racist` part is the roles he chose for the villain (Taliban) and the protagonist (Israeli). I would say it`s tasteless, not racist.
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Male 1,313
I agree. That wasn`t anti-semetic at all. He could have said Christian, or Athiest, and like PeganMomBlog said, people would still complain. It`s like people that complain about free stuff.. well.. maybe not. But Jew know what I mean. Wait.. doh!
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Female 843
That was ridiculously long and he was very monotone. But I thought it was funny.
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Male 349
The reason it`s racist is why did the shop owner have to be Jewish. By making it a Jewish shop owner, rather than just a shop owner it is making certain well known generalisations about Jews. Good joke, bad taste.
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Male 25
hahah
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Male 4,807
That was funny. Racist NO...
Long, Drawn out and funny YES!
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Male 165
I am Jewish and not offended.
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Male 15,510
It doesnt really matter if it was a joke made with a good or bad intention. If the video is related with "Obama" and "National Security" a flame war will start anyways
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Male 197
@ madest
my uncle is Jewish and I sent this to him. I asked him if that was racist and he said "No, it`s a joke... If you find that racist your too uptight." Seriously... I have heard this joke half a dozen times before and every time it was a different race involved.
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Male 3,332
I don`t find it racist as the joke didn`t focus on anything "Jewish". It could have been done with any two groups of people who don`t like each other, and been just as funny. Or, he could have left out the bit about Taliban vs. Jew and it still would have been funny. If you can take the race out, and it`s still funny, than it`s not racist.
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Male 955
Old joke, but it was funnier than poo
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Female 48
I don`t consider this anti-semetic at all. You could replace this with any race or stereotype and it would still have the same hilarity to it. Some people LOOK for something to complain about.
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Male 1,455
How is this even remotely racist?
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Male 15
Funny.

Not really racist.
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Male 7,378
I suspect all the people who say "it`s just a joke" aren`t jewish. These old retired Generals need to just go away. It`s not their military any more.
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Male 313
That wasn`t anti-semitic at all. It was just a joke. A long, drawn out, and funny joke.
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Male 587
It`s just a joke! Face it, we are all different, life would be boring if we were all the same. Therefore there are going to be different stereotypes associated with different races and nationalities. And to simply tell a joke that pokes a little fun, isn`t hurt anyone.
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Male 4,290
That wasn`t really anti-Semitic, unless there`s some tie-wearing Jew stereotype I`m unaware of.
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Male 36
I thought it was drating hilarious. It is nice seeing a sense of humor in the people running this country. Those are the kind of jokes we tell and laugh at while at work/school or with friends. So I don`t see what the big deal is here.
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Female 547
I didn`t think it was offensive, and I can be pretty sensitive about racial stuff.
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Male 40
Heh.
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Male 936
this should be called "how to turn a 30 second joke into a 2 minute one"
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Male 40,756
Link: James Jones Opens Speech With Anti-Semitic Joke [Rate Link] - This is Obama`s National Security Advisor!! Racist Much? You decide.
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