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Date: 05/22/10 02:32 PM

95 Responses to Girl Gets Bit By Rattlesnake, Fake Or Legit?

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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 2:36 pm
    Link: Girl Gets Bit By Rattlesnake, Fake Or Legit? - Wait til the end to see how much it cost her. Only in America you say?
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    mcfudge Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 2:46 pm
    There must have been complications... You can get nailed by a rattle snake here in Texas without insurance, be out of the hospital that same night and spend less than 2 grand.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    looks real, and it wont cost anybody that much for long.
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    Oscola Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 2:54 pm
    There you go America, you carry on condemning public health care I`m sending a shipload of Rattlesnakes over to you. It seems like there`s a film in there somewhere, I`m gonna go call Samuel J and the fat one from Kenan and Kel
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    kiriluv Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 2:57 pm
    Def legit. Living in AZ....ya...happens.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 3:02 pm
    I think those snakes make that sounds as a warning first before biting?
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 3:13 pm
    Christ, how can you POSSIBLY spend $140,000 on that? After you pay the doctor and everybody you would have to flush the rest of it down the toilet, and then pay someone to unclog the toilet when it keeps getting backed up with money and you STILL wouldn`t blow a hundred and forty grand!
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    May 22, 2010 at 3:14 pm
    Cant call it!
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    whipsmart Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 3:41 pm
    USA! USA!
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    firetiger16 Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    Anti-venmon isnt cheap i wouldnt think poo even a visit to the er and the doctor spending 10min with you costs about $500
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    mmill928 Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 3:54 pm
    While the snake would def make that noise way before biting (that`s the whole point of the noise), the wound looks legit. I`d say that staying in a hospital for 3 days is way too much for just a snakebite, but I guess it depends on how long it took for them to get to the hospital.
    Also: why the hell was the driver still filming??
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    Gregger Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 3:55 pm
    ER + high tech equipment + rattle snake anit-venom, fairly pricey I guess + ICU for some days + doctors + consultants

    that`s why it all adds up.
    My dad`s a clinical pharmacist, and I asked him :P
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    Mardie Female 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    It takes a very little hospital time to rack up a $140,000 care bill, just a week or so. It illustrates a major problem with healthcare in the U.S. If you go into the hospital and don`t have insurance, you financially ruined.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 4:04 pm
    Christ, how can you POSSIBLY spend $140,000 on that? After you pay the doctor and everybody you would have to flush the rest of it down the toilet, and then pay someone to unclog the toilet when it keeps getting backed up with money and you STILL wouldn`t blow a hundred and forty grand!

    People who are dying will pay as much as they can to survive, so healthcare run for profit costs a lot. It has a perfect customer base, even better than drug dealing.

    Although high end healthcare is inherently expensive. Million for this machine, couple of million for that one, the time of people who spent maybe upwards of 10 years training for the job, drugs from companies who can charge pretty much anything for them...hospital expenses get mind-boggling very quickly.
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    rakoonhat Female 30-39
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    May 22, 2010 at 4:20 pm
    okay so everything up to the hospitalization can certainly be 100% real, theres nothing to really make me believe its not....but....if were talking your average american rattlesnake, the antivenin is not horribly expensive, and it doesnt take three days of being in the hospital to fix...so she was either bit by something much worse and they added some rattlesnakes noises, or she was really ripped off by some backwoods ER. i have worked around snakes for a while and people who are experts on much worse than your common rattlesnake, we`re talking mambas and cobras in an extensive zoological exhibit....so way too long story short, my verdict is:
    snake bite real, hospitalization exaggerated
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    madest Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 4:23 pm
    Ok Brits. Stop coming to America and getting bit by our snakes. Look at the majority of us who avoid snakes our entire lives.
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    rakoonhat Female 30-39
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    May 22, 2010 at 4:27 pm
    i should state that by horribly expensive, im comparing it to other antivenin. if memory serves me right it was like between 1k to 1.8k for a vial. you will not use a whole vial to administer in a hospital unless that thing was crazy and started punching holes left and right
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 4:44 pm
    "If you go into the hospital and don`t have insurance, you financially ruined."

    If you don`t have insurance and you go to a PUBLIC hospital, they must take you, and you can say you can`t pay. If you can`t pay, you can`t pay and they (eventually) write it off. It is a major mark on your credit, and it does hurt, but it does go away.
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    zombieland Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    Bull crap
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 4:58 pm
    Not fake, people get bit by rattlesnakes all the time.

    But there is no way that cost $140k... If it did, don`t pay - it would ruin you financially. Most bites aren`t lethal, you`d recover from it after a few weeks.

    ... other than that, don`t live in the US.
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    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 5:08 pm
    $140,000? no effing way. that can not be real.

    its only like 50 or 60 bucks a month for me to have health care here in british columbia, canada. i was believing it all up until now. I know our doctors dont get payed as much, but still....

    i think maybe the snake bite was real, and they just did a reinactment of it later.

    her hand looked messed up, but maybe opie just did her thing and put some awesome special effects make up on it... :-)
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    crashgirl88 Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    It is possible she had an anaphylactic reaction to the actual snake antivenin, but I could be guessing. She doesn`t look like she is in serious acute distress though.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 5:51 pm
    Ok Brits. Stop coming to America and getting bit by our snakes. Look at the majority of us who avoid snakes our entire lives.

    Obviously, your snakes are RACIST!*

    One advantage of living here in Britain is that hardly any of the animals are dangerous. There`s one poisonous snake and that`s only dangerous if you`re a toddler or very frail (and probably not even then). Not that you`ll actually see one anyway. No poisonous anythings, really. No roosterroaches, no mosquitoes. No volcanoes, no tornadoes, no earthquakes, no hurricanes. Pretty quiet all round, nature-wise.


    * I know that it would be nationalist rather than racist, but I am poking fun at idiots who don`t even know the difference and burble out the race card anyway.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 5:55 pm
    In case anyone thinks "aha, Angilion is wrong - to the internetz!":

    I know that we do have earthquakes and tornadoes in the UK, but earthquakes that might jolt something off a shelf and tornadoes that might pull some roof slates off are not like the fully monty versions. We did once have a storm that was close to a hurricane.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    Wouldn`t the snake start rattling BEFORE it bit her? I mean, isn`t that the point of the rattle, to warn things to stay away?

    Seriously... The price though... WOW...
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    AntEconomist Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 6:28 pm
    "its only like 50 or 60 bucks a month for me to have health care here in british columbia, canada."

    No, it is 50 or 60 bucks a month plus tax rates that are double those in the US plus the drag on the economy that the high taxes cause (resulting in a per-capita income that is 20% less than in the US) plus the lessened innovation in medical care due to the absent profit incentive.
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    _kiersten_ Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 6:29 pm
    Honestly..That amount of money sounds perfectly reasonable. For instance, when I went in and had 3 blood tests, and a EKG done, it was almost 1000 dollars. So I can only imagine how much it costs just to stay in a hospital for three days, plus the tests and everything.
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    rakoonhat Female 30-39
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    May 22, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    i have to say rick is totally right. my aunt works in the ER and as long as its a public hospital i dont think you have to tell them before treatment either, they cant turn you down. i believe they will also allow you to make good faith payments, as in like serious payments of what you can afford without suing you...i have had the good faith payment thing happen to me before.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 6:50 pm
    I had wrist surgery many years ago...
    personal cost= $0.00

    My son just broke his hand 2 weeks ago
    personal cost= $0.00

    I imagine a rattlesnake bite would be the same.
    Living in a country with Universal health care is a wonderful thing.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 6:54 pm
    @ Angilion... you have mosquitoes over there, silly.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    May 22, 2010 at 6:54 pm
    No, it is 50 or 60 bucks a month plus tax rates (in Canada) that are double those in the US plus the drag on the economy that the high taxes cause etc etc
    Umm, income tax rate in Canada is between 0% and 29%. In the US it`s between 10% and 35%. How do you figure that tax rates in Canada are "double" those of the US?
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    Snorre Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    It`s ok to bankrupt one or two people and have bad healthcare for the poor as long as there is a higher innovation in medical care due to the absent profit incentive.

    Most people can only be happy when they are better off than others it seems.. Crappy mentality that.
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    Valynn Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 8:48 pm
    I don`t think ANYONE should have to die because of money.
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    mdg Male 30-39
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    May 22, 2010 at 8:59 pm
    The idea of a government being involved in a nation`s health care is ridiculous. Let free market take over and we`d all be better off.

    Also, universal health care is not "free" health care: www.nytimes.com/2010/05/23/
    world/europe/23europe.html?hp
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    TFireRock Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    Thats actually most likely true. My mom fell at her house a bit over a yr ago and had to be taken to the hospital by a helicopter she spent 2 weeks in ICU heck just the helicopter bill was for over $7,000.00 in total her bill came to just under $800,000 and that doesnt count all the follow up care shes had to go thru. She broke all but 2 ribs, collapsed a lung, and put a dandy rip in her heart that they still have to surgically fix. (woot for more bills yet to come)
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    sourkrauter Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 9:11 pm
    i think a funeral would have been MUCH cheaper. screw america`s health care system. and i say screw cuz i cant legitimately say f**k on here
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    raikun12 Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 9:12 pm
    @Valynn, but then how else will we weed out the poor ones?
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    sourkrauter Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 9:14 pm
    my step dad drank himself practically to death several years ago and they brought him back from the other side, he spent months in the ICU. we had some freaking outrageous bills, plus AA treatment he went through after. needless to say we couldnt pay it. my rent`s credit is still screwed from filing bankruptcy
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 9:15 pm
    Of course, we all realize it should be "bitten" don`t we?
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    Vindictive Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 9:19 pm
    i don`t buy the 140k thing. i was JUST in the hospital for treatment of an ovarian cyst and we didn`t pay a cent (yes, we have insurance and yes, we live in the U.S.). and even if we didn`t- 140k? bull. antivenom ESPECIALLY for a rattler which isn`t super rare would be no where near that expensive.
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    tstyblucryns Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 9:22 pm
    LOL! "ahh" he says holding a camera from across the room. i`d of been pissed if i was her. more like the cost for 15 minutes of internet fame!

    then again, i am a needy person. in fact...this very moment i NEED a lighter.
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    11Volcom11 Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 10:23 pm
    you know how much it costs in canada if you get bit by a rattle snake or anything?

    if you guessed $0 you are correct!
    canada ftw? lol
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    gothmo Female 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 10:24 pm
    ok, health care is expensive but wow >> rattler bites are pretty common.
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    edana42 Female 50-59
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    May 22, 2010 at 10:28 pm
    you lost my sympathy at "drank himself".
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 10:40 pm
    @ Angilion... you have mosquitoes over there, silly.

    We have? I`ve never seen one or been bitten by one. We must have polite mosquitoes :)

    We don`t have any of the disease-carrying mosquitoes, anyway. Might be bitten, won`t get malaria.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 10:45 pm
    I don`t think ANYONE should have to die because of money.

    That is inevitable, regardless of how healthcare is funded. Nationalised healthcare should make it less common because the available resources should go to treatment rather than some to treatment and some to profit, but either way resources are limited and so some people will die for lack of resources.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 10:49 pm
    Yeah Angilion, I was gonna hate to break it to her but money buys food, shelter and water also. If one were to be prevented from dying for lack of money, they`d have to substitute the mechanism of trade for these essentials with some other form of exchange - one in which they wouldn`t necessarily fare any better.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 22, 2010 at 10:51 pm
    The idea of a government being involved in a nation`s health care is ridiculous.

    Since it happens in various countries, it obviously isn`t ridiculous.

    Why is it more ridiculous than a national government being involved in a nation`s education? Defence? Law?

    Come to think of it, why don`t you think the idea of a national government is ridiculous?

    Let free market take over and we`d all be better off.

    Now that is ridiculous, unless you`re excluding many people from "we".

    It might be possible to make a sensible argument in favour of free market healthcare, but your`s isn`t it.
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    Berenice Female 13-17
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    May 22, 2010 at 10:55 pm
    I know she`s near death and all but... "How big was the snake?" "-opens mouth- That big." "-chuckles- That big?" "That big."
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 10:57 pm
    Your hyperbole belies its mundanity - It IS equally ridiculous that they are involved in education! However, defence and law are pretty much the only things which a government should be legitimately required to administer, in the best interest of providing what are pretty indisputable examples of a "public good."

    Socialized medicine does not meet this criterion.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    May 22, 2010 at 11:08 pm
    "Why is it more ridiculous than a national government being involved in a nation`s education?"

    It isn`t. Government education in this country is a JOKE!
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 11:11 pm
    Dude, auburn - I`m with you buddy, but too late.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    May 22, 2010 at 11:43 pm
    The constitution gives the federal government 2 tasks. Powers if you will.

    Uphold the law, and defend states rights.

    Other than that, they have no constitutional authority to keep making these "departments" to oversee us.

    "A government that is best, is one that governs the least, for it`s people will discipline themselves" - Thomas Jefferson
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    bridog6996 Male 18-29
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    May 22, 2010 at 11:52 pm
    Def fake. She showed up to the hospital and got treated in 30 minutes? Maybe in bizarro land.
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    dooflotchie Female 30-39
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    May 23, 2010 at 12:16 am
    Dude, seriously...you think it`s fake b/c she got treated in 30 minutes?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triage
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    entwife Female 18-29
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    May 23, 2010 at 12:23 am
    $140,000 for one freaking snake bite!?!? I hate that my life may someday be held hostage by some hospital that wants to charge me hundreds of thousands of dollars for the help I need. There has to be a better way.

    BTW, government-run healthcare is not that answer in my opinion. It wouldn`t be "free" (at least not for me, because I actually pay my taxes), and the government has a pretty piss poor record when it comes to running things intelligently, efficiently, and effectively.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2010 at 12:56 am
    The idea of a government being involved in a nation`s health care is ridiculous. Let free market take over and we`d all be better off.
    I was about to lay down a LOL at your sarcasm, until I realised that you`re actually serious.

    God help us all.
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    Max_Normal Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2010 at 2:12 am
    "auburnjunky
    Male, 30-39, Southern US
    1256 Posts Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:43:06 PM
    The constitution gives the federal government 2 tasks. Powers if you will.

    Uphold the law, and defend states rights.

    Other than that, they have no constitutional authority to keep making these "departments" to oversee us.

    "A government that is best, is one that governs the least, for it`s people will discipline themselves" - Thomas Jefferson"

    In other words "I`m all right Jack, the rest of you can go hang".

    Surely not a very constructive sentiment to base a "society" on?

    Here`s another one,

    Q: How many Americans does it take to change a lightbulb?

    A: None, Americans don`t like change for the good.
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    Sock1122 Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2010 at 3:03 am
    I don`t know how poo works in other countries so someone explain please who the hells gunna pay that $140,000 bill ?
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    goatgirl666 Female 18-29
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    May 23, 2010 at 3:07 am
    can someone please enlighten me as to how the US tax system works? here in the UK a percentage of your earnings comes off as tax and National Insurance, which goes towards free health care and state pensions.

    would thousands of americans really rather pay ridiculous amounts on hospital bills and insurance, than pay a little more tax (which i assume they are already paying) and know that if anything should happen its not going to cost them the earth?
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    da3nd Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2010 at 3:59 am
    right... US the best country in the world.... only if u dont get sick...

    Thx GOD for health care in almost all of europe. and as a european its almost free in all of EU...

    God i love our lil old continent :P
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    enterthehole Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2010 at 4:21 am
    Damn, Im never going to go to hospital if I ever visit the US. I`d need an organ or two falling out first. Those prices must just encourage people to ignore thier health =/
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    The_Garuness Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2010 at 4:48 am
    @madest
    Indicate if you`re being facetious. If not, then you`re a moron.
    Secondly, is it ok to call shennanighans on this? (the price that is)
    I know the health system is different but there`s no way it would be as expensive as that.
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    octobers Male 18-29
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    May 23, 2010 at 5:43 am
    "I don`t know how poo works in other countries so someone explain please who the hells gunna pay that $140,000 bill ?"

    Nobody. They`ll have to file for bankruptcy, like most people in their situation. So in a roundabout way, health care really is free in the US too.
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    Crabcakes Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2010 at 5:47 am
    I`m guessing, by the accents of everyone in the video, that it`s in Australia (I may be wrong, sue me.)

    If that`s the case, $140k AUS = ~$115k US.

    Further, antivenin is horrendously expensive, and it can sometimes require upwards of 10 doses to be effective. She was probably on critical care watchlists and a variety of machines, as well.


    @goatgirl666: "would thousands of americans really rather pay ridiculous amounts on hospital bills and insurance, than pay a little more tax (which i assume they are already paying) and know that if anything should happen its not going to cost them the earth?"

    The problem is more with a few very wealthy people who have enough influence to make things not happen. For the little guy, paying say 5% of your earnings for "free" healh care isn`t a huge chunk, but the rich bastards would pay a significantly higher amount, and that includes many of our politicians.
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    kirstoner Female 18-29
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    May 23, 2010 at 6:00 am
    Not Australia. He`s British. We don`t have rattlesnakes. The person at the end asks "American healthcare?"
    Also, our steering wheels are on the other side of the car. Granted, you can have a left-side drive vehicle in Australia.
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    frogpond Female 13-17
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    May 23, 2010 at 6:11 am
    @crabcakes they were all english i dont see how americans confuse the english accent with the australian...
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    TheManJT Male 13-17
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    May 23, 2010 at 6:19 am
    octobers...you said "Nobody. They`ll have to file for bankruptcy, like most people in their situation. So in a roundabout way, health care really is free in the US too."

    bankruptcy isn`t just a little stigma, it means you`ll never get a credit card, never get a mortgage, struggle to get insurance, some people will not hire you...it ruins peoples lives..so no, declaring yourself bankrupt isn`t a quick fix with no consequences. it might be a last resort, yes.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2010 at 7:59 am
    "than pay a little more tax"

    We already pay upwards of 28% income tax. That would likely go up to about 35 to 40%

    Also, Obama is exploring a value added tax of all manufactured items. That will add about 10% So now we are up to 50%.

    Now here is the crux of the matter. 47% of tax payers in this country don`t even pay income taxes! Yes they pay sales tax, but everyone does.

    Sooooo 47% of tax payers pay only sales tax, and the rest get gouged out the ass to pay for that 47% of people to go to the hospital? No thanks!

    We need a fair tax where EVERYONE pays the same PERCENTAGE of their income. There is a plan for this, but politicians in this country won`t touch it, because they are afraid they will lose the votes of that 47% that pay no income tax.

    SO I ask this....

    Is it cost that causes people to not have health care in America, or POLITICS?
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    mdg Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2010 at 8:15 am
    >It might be possible to make a sensible argument in favour of free market healthcare, but your`s isn`t it.

    You`re absolutely right, but why would MORE government intervention than we already have make things better? Go read about cosmetic surgery in the US (www.ncpa.org/pub/ba437). Those costs have decreased relative to inflation. Could it be that the government and insurance companies have have a decreased presence in these types of practices (cosmetic surgery is not generally covered by insurance in the US)?

    Of course it`d be nice if everyone had access to free health care, but only a fool would believe that government provided health care is "free". Honestly, do any of you think any of the systems any of us have now are sustainable? The US and EU are swimming in debt. It will not last.
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    mdg Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2010 at 8:28 am
    >can someone please enlighten me as to how the US tax system works? here in the UK a percentage of your earnings comes off as tax and National Insurance, which goes towards free health care and state pensions.

    You pay a federal income tax, state income tax, social security tax, a FICA tax, property tax, a sales tax (state and local)... the list goes on.

    Don`t be fooled that poor folks don`t get health care in the US. We have Medicare (government health care for those over 65), Medicaid (government health care for those with low income), and various programs by state. These programs already absorb huge amounts of money.
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    mvangild Male 30-39
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    May 23, 2010 at 8:46 am
    Health care in America is screwed up, I will be the first to admit. However, it would be better to investigate what is wrong and fixing it rather than modelling a health care system of another country. Trying to fix what is wrong would take a lot of time and investigation, though, and I don`t think Obama and other Democrats were interested in something that could potentially take longer than one term in office.
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    citizen_kane Male 18-29
    272 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 8:48 am
    can someone do something about the spammers?
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    madduck Female 50-59
    7597 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 8:59 am
    HOW F*ING MUCH!!!!! Ow---- I am never moving there-a) because of bitey things b) because they just bought someone a really nice car
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    SuperSmash Male 18-29
    3758 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 10:17 am
    There`s no such thing as free healthcare, or even cheap healthcare, unless you`re poor. When calculating how much one pays, you have to include the thousands upon thousands in taxes they pay every year in countries that have "free" healthcare.

    Not that I`m arguing for or against tax-funded healthcare, I`m just saying that the idea of free healthcare is ridiculous.

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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 11:46 am
    Q: How many Americans does it take to change a lightbulb?

    A: None, Americans don`t like change for the good.
    ------------------

    I`ve got a better answer to that one:

    A: None. They just hold the lightbulb in place and the world revolves around them.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 12:06 pm
    Shutup davymid.
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    Raokin Female 18-29
    452 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 1:16 pm
    That sounds more like a sprinkler system than a rattlesnake.
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    DMoneys36 Male 13-17
    221 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    she`s lucky she only got bit in the finger. If it was farther up her arm, she might have died. Eastern Rattlesnakes are more poisonous than western, and they younger snake`s venom is more concentrated then older too.
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    TxP Female 70 & Over
    1190 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 2:00 pm
    daveymid-
    then whos holding the bulb?
    OHHHHHHH SNAP COMEBACK
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 2:49 pm
    Def fake. She showed up to the hospital and got treated in 30 minutes? Maybe in bizarro land.

    Maybe in anywhere that has a functioning healthcare system.

    A while back, I went to hospital with a minor foot injury. I went essentially because I didn`t know whether or not it was serious and wanted to err on the side of caution in case my ignorance would harm me.

    I was seen immediately.

    I was assessed by medical personnel within 10 minutes.

    I was treated about 3 hours later.

    The key thing is triage:

    Initial viewing indicated that I was not an immediate emergency. The information I gave when booking in supported that. (medical receptionist)

    Medical assessment indicated relatively minor injury without sign of complications that could become an immediate emergency. (nurse)

    So I could reasonably be left to wait until more urgent cases were dealt with, then treated (doctor).

    Unlike a perso
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 2:57 pm
    ...unlike a person with a potentially fatal dose of rattlesnake poison.



    Is it possible to change the character count so that it shows the number of characters that the forum software is actually counting, as that`s the relevant number? As it stands, anything within 50-odd characters of the limit usually disappears and that`s slightly irritating.
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    Kaagan Male 18-29
    1601 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 5:10 pm
    why is he filming while driving?
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 7:38 pm
    Is it possible to change the character count so that it shows the number of characters that the forum software is actually counting, as that`s the relevant number? As it stands, anything within 50-odd characters of the limit usually disappears and that`s slightly irritating.
    Yeah, sorry about that Angilion. It`s accurate as long as you don`t use quotes, links or images... when you do that a string of HTML text is inserted when you hit the post button, which doesn`t show up in the character count.

    Bear with us. IAB was coded by retarded chimps back in the mid 17th century...
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    necrobitch Female 18-29
    467 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 7:59 pm
    FAKE poo
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 11:01 pm
    I don`t think that I`m going out on a limb in saying that in America, as well it should be everywhere, that something this serious gets seen within 30 seconds of arrival to the hospital.

    They will skip the triage in this situation.
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    KRAYZEEGIRL Female 30-39
    447 posts
    May 23, 2010 at 11:05 pm
    well it all depends what you enter the ER with here in the U.S. You will be seen immediately if it involves a poisonous bite, difficulty breathing, or if your BP is extremely high. Sometimes, as with my friend derek, they will take you back immediately if you have absolutely no skin left on your hands. I definitely think the bite and hospital video is real. I am not sure if it cost $140,000 but who knows how much the anti-venom costs and how much they had to use. It could have added up very quickly.
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    gshockx21 Male 18-29
    100 posts
    May 24, 2010 at 12:53 am
    This video was posted for this reason exactly, reading the funny flame war comments that expand longer than a paragraph.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    May 24, 2010 at 3:43 am
    Davymid - I told you to shutup! Admitting your affiliation with primate retardation has done nothing to bolster your recurrently insipid drivel!
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    GirlieMutant Female 18-29
    236 posts
    May 24, 2010 at 5:02 am
    How couldn`t he know that was a rattlesnake? And I think they regretted not buying an insurance for that :(
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    May 24, 2010 at 8:47 am
    A: None. They just hold the lightbulb in place and the world revolves around them.

    If you could only see the hypocrisy of that statement.

    Was anyone else thinking quick take off your shirt and bra and tie off your arm....
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    SoundlesHero Male 18-29
    62 posts
    May 25, 2010 at 6:19 am
    Antivenin goes for around 3500-6000 USD for one 10 ml vial. A full bite like that (puncture indicates full bite) and taking into account she is a full grown adult, I would say she probably took 150-200 ml of antivenin alone. Factor in her stay in ICU, $140,000 is quite cheap actually.
    She`s superlucky she got bit on the hand and not higher up closer to her heart and brain.

    Antivenin is venom extracted from the snake and then injected into a Horse, sheep, goat, pig...etc. Those animals usually have a built up immunity, so once they have enough of the antibodies built up, it is extracted and that is what you get in the vial. All that work explains the cost and why people risk their lives extracting the venom to begin with.

    A broken leg in the US costs about $40,000 on average. Argue about the merits of the system all you want, it is what it is right now so...GET INSURED!
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    pmarren Male 40-49
    4575 posts
    May 25, 2010 at 7:01 am
    I`d hit it.
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    pedology Male 13-17
    54 posts
    May 27, 2010 at 1:43 pm
    "$140,000 is quite cheap actually"
    You, Sir, made me lol.

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