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Date: 04/11/10 08:06 AM

101 Responses to Why You So Racist, Ronald McDonald? [Pic]

  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 8:05 am
    Link: Why You So Racist, Ronald McDonald? - So Ronald thinks he can get all racist once he leaves America?
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    howlingwolf Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 8:09 am
    Funny repost.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 8:11 am
    To be fair, Ronald could be black under all that makeup.
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    IQover Male 13-17
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    April 11, 2010 at 8:26 am
    LOL
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    DieZahl23 Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 8:52 am
    just IAB classic
    in japanese its sounds like a normal word.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 8:58 am
    @17945
    It`s probably a dude. Just sayin`.
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 9:46 am
    agreed, 17945...
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    shalantas Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 9:47 am
    LMFAO!!!! i chocked on my sausage egg mcmuffin just now.
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    ParasyT Male 13-17
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    April 11, 2010 at 10:04 am
    How is this racist? Nigga isn`t a racial slur. You would never hear a klansman go around calling black people nigga`s. now I am a racist! is a racist term, and its hilarious.
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    ParasyT Male 13-17
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    April 11, 2010 at 10:05 am
    wow IAB just failed once again... the whole "I am a racist" par was me actually saying n:gger
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    darkgear6 Male 70 & Over
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    April 11, 2010 at 10:33 am
    HAHAHHAHAAA
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 10:41 am
    *negro
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    Kodyo Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 11:19 am
    Yeah, OK ParasyT, except you didn`t realize that "Niggaaaaa" is just the equivalent of "Ummmm" in Mandarin Chinese.
    Too bad the gangsta ronald doesn`t make it any better.
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    littlepete50 Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 11:24 am
    lmfao!!!!
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 11:39 am
    "Nigga" is the poor excuse of a swear-dodge that people came up with so they wouldn`t be saying the N-word. Verbally they sound exactly the same when they are spewed forth in quick conversation, thereby defeating the entire purpose, save the possibility of covering one`s sorry ass by saying "Noooo I said Nigga! That`s different!"

    It`s not. It never was. It means the same damn thing.
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    james20 Male 13-17
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    April 11, 2010 at 11:46 am
    LOL
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    wolfguy423 Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 11:48 am
    even if he is saying ummmmm in mandarin Chinese,
    whats with the whole Homie-G sign?
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    xxxveganxxx Male 13-17
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    April 11, 2010 at 11:48 am
    REEEPOOOSSSSTTTTTTTTT.. I think ._.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 11:49 am
    Gangsta hands and all
  20. Profile photo of Loxen
    Loxen Female 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 11:52 am
    So white peps, when are we going to get off our butts and get all racially idignant about black people using "cracker" "Cracka" or "Cracka lackin`"?
    I mean, if they can get all pissy about racial crap... we can get all pissy too, right?

    Oh right... white people arn`t allowed to be a race.
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    buxco215 Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 12:05 pm
    The N-word doesn`t have the same connotation in Asia as in America obviously becuase Japan, China, etc. weren`t involved in the slave trade. So while it`s technically using a racist word, it`s not in that context.

    Thank you and God bless America!
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    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 12:12 pm
    Loxen - "So white peps, when are we going to get off our butts and get all racially idignant about black people using "cracker" "Cracka" or "Cracka lackin`"? "

    Maybe when we have centuries of being oppressed to back up our indignation.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
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    April 11, 2010 at 12:42 pm
    wtf?
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 12:45 pm
    what if ronald is black? we can`t possibly tell under that make-up. apparantly if he`s black he can say I am a racist! all he wants.
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    Norris Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 12:45 pm
    Chinese girl

    obviously Chinese word which means Um :P
  26. Profile photo of TKD_Master
    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    change `I am a racist!` to N!gger, please. stupid F*ucking filter.
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    Farsidedown Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 12:49 pm
    "So white peps, when are we going to get off our butts and get all racially idignant about black people using "cracker" "Cracka" or "Cracka lackin`"

    psh...I consider being called a "cracka" a compliment.
  28. Profile photo of Farsidedown
    Farsidedown Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 12:51 pm
    "apparantly if he`s black he can say I am a racist! all he wants."

    Yes he can...
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    SorasNobody Male 13-17
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    April 11, 2010 at 12:52 pm
    Yeah!! Repost!
  30. Profile photo of Loxen
    Loxen Female 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 1:05 pm
    Shnard-dog writes:
    "Maybe when we have centuries of being oppressed to back up our indignation."

    You don`t think we do? Do you think every white person`s ancestors was once a king or queen sipping tea and eating cake or something?

    You... have read history books right?

    Vikings were big on the slave trade,and it was practiced by the Celts. Many families were born into slavery and a LOT of "white people" have ancestors that were once slaves. It is not a uniquely African thing. (I won`t even go into how many African tribes SOLD their own people to BE slaves...)
    It was much longer ago than American slavery (which ended in 1865), but really... show me the Immortal vampire thats still hanging round remembering "back in the day" of USA slavery.
    Yeah, in otherwords nobody is still alive who was ever a slave in American History.
    1865 was 145 years ago... so how long is long enough for people to get over it? Seriously...
  31. Profile photo of ElSombrero
    ElSombrero Male 13-17
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    April 11, 2010 at 1:21 pm
    My ideology:

    If black people want to be referred to as "African American" then I want to be referred to as "European-American".
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    April 11, 2010 at 2:01 pm
    "Maybe when we have centuries of being oppressed to back up our indignation."
    How about this then: Your grandfather stole something from my grandfather. Therefore YOU owe ME an apology.

    Now do you see how stupid you sound? Probably not. You`ll keep using something that happened 150 years ago as an excuse to do what you like.

    No-one alive today was ever involved with the slave trade. Stop whining and get on with life.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 2:18 pm
    WHAT!!!!!
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    strivejaylen Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 2:18 pm
    Let all be very politaclly correct, if you can name what country your origans came from
    if you want to be African- American name the country that your origins came from
    if you want to be european- american name what european country and so on
    if you cant then be a American
    so easy
    i am a Native european American
    i have native american and i have irish and german, and a bunch of other poo in me
    but i want to be in that asian girl =P
  35. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 2:19 pm
    "No-one alive today was ever involved with the slave trade. Stop whining and get on with life."

    I`m going to guess you are White like me, so I can totally understand why this would make sense. It would be really convenient for Whites if African-Americans (and Whites like) would stop talking slavery and racism, after all slavery in this country has been illegal for 150 years like you said. The problem is, that African-Americans (and all persons of color) are still fighting institutionally racist policies that have been around since long before the days of slavery. So before you call me an idiot for not understanding, believe me, I see the apparent logic in your argument, but I also know the ignorance in it as well.
  36. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 2:22 pm
    "If black people want to be referred to as "African American" then I want to be referred to as "European-American"."

    Okay, I`d be glad to refer to you by a term you prefer, just as I`m glad to refer to African-Americans by the term they prefer.
  37. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 2:30 pm
    Loxen - I am certainly not denying that Whites have ever been involved in slave trade or that there were Africans who sold their own people into slavery (though without the White demand for slaves this likely wouldn`t have happened). I think where we`re differing is that you see slavery as this thing in the past that has no impact or connection to the way things are for African-Americans (and Whites) now. As I said before, as a White person, it would be really convenient for me to have talk about race and slavery come to and end and people "to get over it", but the reality is (not my reality or White reality) that the effects of slavery and the racism that allowed it are unfortunately alive and well despite slavery having ended 150 years ago.
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    Raberboom Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 3:38 pm
    look at the low posters posting up a storm!!!
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    steve41high Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    i think its racist that black people can say nigga but not white people
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    wereallboned Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 3:44 pm
    I`m black and I like being called black (out of African American, Negro, and Black), just like all my friends and all my black professors...we`re dratin black thats it
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    deepseadiver Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 3:50 pm
    On July 30, 2008, the United States House of Representatives passed a resolution apologizing for American slavery and subsequent discriminatory laws.

    Get on with your life.
  42. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    "I`m black and I like being called black (out of African American, Negro, and Black), just like all my friends and all my black professors...we`re dratin black thats it"

    Sounds good, if you prefer to be called Black, I will call you Black. If someone else prefers African-American, I will refer to them as that.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2010 at 5:14 pm
    I`m black and I like being called black (out of African American, Negro, and Black), just like all my friends and all my black professors...we`re dratin black thats it

    No, you aren`t.

    You have relatively dark skin, probably mid to dark brown.

    Even if your skin is black, which it probably isn`t, you are not your skin.

    My body hair is black. Should I define myself as black because of the colour of my body hair? Why not? It makes as much sense as you defining yourself by the colour of your skin and more sense than defining yourself by an inaccurate description of the colour of your skin.

    Skin colour is a minor adaptation to relatively sparse hair (humans evolved darker skin to offset the reduction in UV protection caused by reduction in body hair) and local weather conditions (humans evolved paler skin to increase vitamin D production in less sunny parts of the world).

    It`s not the defining feature of a person. It is
  44. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2010 at 5:20 pm
    How about this then: Your grandfather stole something from my grandfather. Therefore YOU owe ME an apology.

    Now do you see how stupid you sound? Probably not. You`ll keep using something that happened 150 years ago as an excuse to do what you like.

    It isn`t as personal as a close blood relation (grandfather).

    So...when do I get an apology, preferential treatment and money from the USA, plus the right to righteously blame any citizen of the USA that I want to blame and coerce them into feeling guilty for being a citizen of the USA? I`m British, so the USA stole most of a continent from me, right? Damn, I deserve a lot for that. I`ll take it in pounds or dollars, because I`m nice like that.
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    pantelisk Male 13-17
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    April 11, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    I think niggaaaaa in Asian countries (as you can see I`m trying not to be racist ,like it even matters,) is the same as hmmm,err and mmmm so people use is in common text to think. I think its supposed to re inact someone ordering something from the menu
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    AlexTron Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    Didn`t...didn`t we have this discussion LAST time this was posted? lol
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    EvilGrouse Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 5:51 pm
    What gang sign is Ronnie flashin`?
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2010 at 8:11 pm
    > steve41high
    > i think its racist that black people can say nigga but not white people

    That`s right, it IS racist!! Just like its bullpoo that YOU can make jokes about how fat and stupid you are, and how small your dick is, but WE aren`t allowed to!
  49. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 8:12 pm
    Angilion - So what are you trying to say? You think having black body hair is the same as having dark skin? I agree that judging someone based on their skin color (or body hair?) is wrong, but the reality is that it happens all of the time in the U.S. Maybe not in Europe (I doubt that), but it does and it results in real disadvantages for persons of color.
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    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 11, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    TKD_Master - So you are racist then?
  51. Profile photo of wereallboned
    wereallboned Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 9:41 pm
    Angillion did you smoke a bong and take out a thesaurus when you wrote that essay?
    Let`s not get so dratin picky here because you`re looking pretty lame and definitely not coming off funny. It doesn`t matter if my skin is actually brown, we call ourselves black, just like white people are a tan color.
    You`re not black because your body hair is black, but that does make you sound like a caveman.
    Also point our where I said it`s how I define a person.
  52. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2010 at 10:15 pm
    Angilion - So what are you trying to say?

    I`m trying to say what I said. What I said was clear enough.

    You think having black body hair is the same as having dark skin?

    Obviously not, because one is hair and the other is skin. If I had meant that, I would have written that.

    I agree that judging someone based on their skin color (or body hair?) is wrong, but the reality is that it happens all of the time in the U.S.

    It will continue to do so as long as enough people want it to happen. Everyone who defines themself and everyone else by an inaccurate description of the colour of their skin obviouslyh wants it to continue to happen.

    Alternatively: You can`t stop other people doing it to you, but you can stop doing it to yourself and everyone else.

    Maybe not in Europe (I doubt that)

    I`m not in Europe and I`m sure it varies from place to place there.
  53. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 11, 2010 at 10:20 pm
    Angillion did you smoke a bong and take out a thesaurus when you wrote that essay?

    I am able to think past irrational prejudices and I`m fairly competent with English. Obviously that makes me incomprehensible to you.

    Let`s not get so dratin picky here because you`re looking pretty lame and definitely not coming off funny.

    Again, you`re showing your limited intellectual ability. Which will be funny to some people, but it`s just sad to me.

    It doesn`t matter if my skin is actually brown, we call ourselves black, just like white people are a tan color.

    Also point our where I said it`s how I define a person.

    You just did, again. It`s so deeply ingrained in your limited mind that you cannot understand not doing so.

    Do you really want to get into a slanging match with me? You`re not equipped for it.
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    joofro Male 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 10:35 pm
    lets see what 4chan has to say!!!
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    fillemorte Female 18-29
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    April 11, 2010 at 10:40 pm
    :|
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    Crucible Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 12:12 am
    In Chinese, Africans are literally referred to as Black Ghosts. At least when they are trying to be offensive.
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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 1:05 am
    I`m gonna have to admit that even though I disagree with some of Angilion`s PoVs, he will blow you out of the water.

    Mispelled your name, my bad =/
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    Khronnus Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 1:41 am
    I never normally moan about reposts, olds or fakes. But this one is all three. >.<
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 1:55 am
    "lets see what 4chan has to say!!!"

    Don`t you f*cking dare.
  60. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 2:02 am
    Just to clarify my comment about not being in Europe although my details say I am:

    I`m in the UK. IAB registration details don`t have an entry for the UK and Europe was the nearest so I picked that.
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    Handsompod Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 4:00 am
    To add a little more fuel to Angillions fire.

    Shnard-dog,If a man is heavily tattooed so as his ethnic colour is no longer discernable, which colour would you call him?
    And before you start I`m not a racist. I`m just asking.
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    fknloser Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 7:54 am
    it is pretty stupid that this causes any controversy at all. i mean really, who cares? i know for a fact it offends NO ONE, its just the whiney crybabies that use any and all opportunities they can to cry..... and 99% of the time its WHITE PERSON that is calling racism, so they get "respect" from the brothas. the brothas just laugh at them too.
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    mischeif954 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 9:17 am
    Man Stop being a troll Angilion Stole a country from you? when was it ever Britain`s country?

    And I like how Lion heart views that whole its racist we can`t say the N word as it is BS I cant insult you directly because its against forum rules but I`m sure you and your friends call each other names for fun does that make you racist?
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    MountainBord Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:19 am
    wow hes throwning up the gang signs and everything.....
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 11:20 am
    Angilion,

    whether you believe the UK to be apart of Europe or not is a moot point since well, IT IS.

    you and many other Brits may not believe that and lord knows you do but too bad because you are European.

    Could be worse, someone could mistake you for English..oh wait, sorry...
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    snailslime Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 12:14 pm
    WOW angilion is a rat bastard...is anyone else reading these?
    you are what you want to be, you have no right to tell someone who they are..if they want to be black, thier black..thats not your decision

    if this wasnt a slip from a english speaking country, then its supposed to mean hmmmmm like pantelisk said
  67. Profile photo of Unmedicated
    Unmedicated Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 2:22 pm
    You are oppressed? Man I`m not a racist person but damn it! YOU personally, and as a people are no longer oppressed. Do you get it? It was not me, or was it America as a whole who decided "Hey lets go to Africa and steal us some slaves!" History should be remembered, so that it does not repeat itself, but don`t sit there and act like you know exactly what happened back then, and how it felt simply because of a racial term being used in something that was supposed to be a simple humorous picture. You are not a slave, you never were a slave, you are an African American. Now if you want to talk about oppression, how about we talk about the jews. Hating Hitler is something I can most certainly get behind.
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    lyckosam Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 2:48 pm
    Erm... Angilion... I live in England (also in the UK, to help you with your shaky geography), and we`re definitely in Europe. The EU? Europe? Remember? Maybe if you drew the distinction of Continental Europe you`d be right, but Europe? Yeah, DEFINITELY in it last time I checked.
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    Tifer Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    Angillon-
    I hate to feed a troll but I just...I just have to.
    So what you`re saying is that because people`s skin is not literally black it can`t be called black. So everyone has to waste time by calling them "African Americans" all the time, in any situation? Seriously? A hispanic person is darker than a Caucasian person, but an African is darker than them. Who`s closest to black? If we called them "brown" it would be too general. It`s just slang, something we`ve been doing since we developed speech. And the whole "you are not your skin" thing, so that means that I`m not human? It doesn`t define me, right? That`s what you said, you are not a physical characteristic of your body? Well I`m not a male or a female then, `cause I can`t let that define me!
    I know you`re looking for someone to stroke your ego, but actually your diction comes off as mundane and repetitive. You`re the kind of guy I might see pretending to read a book in public.
  70. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 4:38 pm
    "you are what you want to be, you have no right to tell someone who they are..if they want to be black, thier black..thats not your decision"

    Exactly what I`ve been trying to say. Well said snailslime!
  71. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
    229 posts
    April 12, 2010 at 4:43 pm
    Unmedicated - You`re right, oppression in the form of slavery no longer exists in the U.S. However, oppression in many other forms (because of race) still does. By the way, I am White, not African-American. I would have agreed with you at one point, but when I started listening to the ways African Americans continue to be at a disadvantage (both on a personal level and an institutional one), I realized that oppression was no longer a thing of the past, but something that still exists, though often more covertly than it once did.
  72. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
    229 posts
    April 12, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    "Shnard-dog,If a man is heavily tattooed so as his ethnic colour is no longer discernable, which colour would you call him?"

    Whatever he wants me to call him.
  73. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 6:39 pm
    Nice try, Tifer. Your insults are good, but you`ve missed the point.

    I`m talking about a pointless and inaccurate seperation of humanity into two or at most a handful of groups solely for the purpose of creating opposing groups. Groups that don`t really exist.

    I think it`s a bad idea. You don`t have to agree with me.
  74. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 6:43 pm
    Erm... Angilion... I live in England (also in the UK, to help you with your shaky geography), and we`re definitely in Europe. The EU? Europe? Remember? Maybe if you drew the distinction of Continental Europe you`d be right, but Europe? Yeah, DEFINITELY in it last time I checked.

    Check again. In social and political terms, we`re closer to the USA than Europe. We`re being forced into a USE, but it`s not really sticking yet. Most people in the UK can`t even communicate with most people in Europe and don`t regard themselves as being European. Europe is not unified and the UK is not really in it apart from geographically.
  75. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    April 12, 2010 at 6:47 pm
    WOW angilion is a rat bastard...is anyone else reading these?

    Yeah, I`m such a rat bastard for treating people as people and not as interchangeable examples of some fictional groups labelled "races".

    Are you really so very racist that you hate me so much for not being racist? Seriously? Or are you just too racist to understand me?

    you are what you want to be, you have no right to tell someone who they are..if they want to be black, thier black..thats not your decision

    They can want to be Martians if they like - that wouldn`t make them so. But I`d be less bothered by that because it wouldn`t affect the society I live in. Their impassioned advocacy of racism does affect the society I live in, so I have every right to oppose it.
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    mischeif954 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 6:48 pm
    Unmedicated @ about that we may not know exactly what exactly happened back then but following the trend of how American history was taught I can`t say for now but from when I was in school it tended to make light of the things, and was illustrated in "White America`s" Version, things like How the Japanese-Americans were treated during WWII, Thanksgiving, etc. so I`m pretty sure slavery was as bad as they say and can give you a pretty good sense of how it felt to not to be treated fairly hell we all have been at one point, just to drive it home yea the Jewish suffered during the holocaust but so did blacks, gypsies and pretty much anyone who helped those who didn`t fit the master race, including Witnesses who were treated in a lot of cases even more cruely than the Jewish during the holocaust.

    Just take that into account before deciding how offended someone should be
  77. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 6:53 pm
    Stole a country from you? when was it ever Britain`s country?

    How can you be from the USA and be so ignorant of your own history?

    You`re also missing the point - my example was deliberately ridiculous. I thought that was obvious from the way I belaboured the point in a ridiculous way, but I obviously over-estimated the audience.

    There are a lot of people here who are so devoted to completely defining people by inaccurate descriptions of skin colour that they`re outraged by the idea of not doing so, so outraged that they can`t think straight.
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    mischeif954 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 7:05 pm
    Country never belonged to Britain, colonized a preoccupied land and over time settlers who felt oppressed by Britain`s rule and not being fairly represented in the government led to the the American Revolution (British Civil war), afterward more land was acquired through war, contracts, purchases, and genocide. If by own it you mean how they came here and just started claiming land to be theirs and making deeds, then by that same line of thought we never took the land we did the same thing. Sound about right?
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    mischeif954 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 7:29 pm
    OHHh ok. I figured it out Angilion`s trolling tonight It`s not ok to label people as races to embrace culture, skin color and blood lines, that would be inhumane. That`s almost like defining people by their borders.

    <<you are what you want to be, you have no right to tell someone who they are..if they want to be black, thier black..thats not your decision


    They can want to be Martians if they like - that wouldn`t make them so. But I`d be less bothered by that because it wouldn`t affect the society I live in. Their impassioned advocacy of racism does affect the society I live in, so I have every right to oppose it.>>

    "Check again. In social and political terms, we`re closer to the USA than Europe. We`re being forced into a USE, but it`s not really sticking yet. Most people in the UK can`t even communicate with most people in Europe and don`t regard themselves as being European. Europe is not unified and the UK is not really in it apart fro
  80. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 7:34 pm
    "I`m talking about a pointless and inaccurate seperation of humanity into two or at most a handful of groups solely for the purpose of creating opposing groups. Groups that don`t really exist."

    You`re absolutely right that race is socially constructed and has no biological basis. Skin color essentially boils down to where one`s ancestors lived - the farther from the equator, the lighter one`s skin color.

    Despite there being no biological base for racial divisions (and I think this is where we`re disagreeing), in terms of privilege and oppression there remains a great deal of difference based on skin color.

    People often make the argument that talking about racism is what causes racism; the reality is (and ask most any person of color) that racism exists whether we acknowledge it or not. Although it is more convenient for Whites (me included) for racism to stop coming up, the reason it does is that it continues to impact people on a daily basis.
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    Velocirock Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:13 pm
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:46 pm
    If by own it you mean how they came here and just started claiming land to be theirs and making deeds, then by that same line of thought we never took the land we did the same thing. Sound about right?

    Yes, the same thing - stealing it from the previous owners. So according to your own argument, the USA does not own the USA. That seems an odd position to take - who do you think does own the USA?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:55 pm
    People often make the argument that talking about racism is what causes racism;

    Really? Where? I haven`t seen anyone make that argument. Do you think I`m making that argument? What other people do you think are making that argument? Are you referring to Morgan Freeman`s position?

    If you want to reduce racism, *continually reinforcing* the divisions essential for racism is not a good way to go. You can make different forms of racism. You might, if you`re lucky, maybe reverse the old forms as well given enough time. But you`re not going to really reduce racism by reinforcing it all the time and requiring everyone else to do so as well.
  84. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:59 pm
    OHHh ok. I figured it out Angilion`s trolling tonight It`s not ok to label people as races to embrace culture, skin color and blood lines, that would be inhumane. That`s almost like defining people by their borders.

    You`re making a fool and a liar of yourself. If you really thought I was trolling, you wouldn`t think you could find a line of argument in my posts - trolling doesn`t have one. So you`re contradicting yourself.

    If you think you have a point, feel free to try again without contradicting yourself. It looks to me that you`re arguing in favour of seperatism on the basis of skin colour, i.e. to have different countries for people of different skin colours (according to the stupidly inaccurate descriptions of skin colour that people like you favour).
  85. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 13, 2010 at 6:31 am
    "But you`re not going to really reduce racism by reinforcing it all the time and requiring everyone else to do so as well."

    Can you please explain how I am reinforcing racism and how exactly I am "requiring people to do so as well"?

    My point, or at least one of my points, is that racism is reinforced all of the time whether we talk about it or not. In recognizing racism and talking about what causes it we can begin to fix what maintains it.
  86. Profile photo of mischeif954
    mischeif954 Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2010 at 8:17 am
    Ughh yes and no a lot of the land like said before made through purchases etc. some of it unexplored all together, Oregon area Chicago, sometimes went to war to expand the borders not uncommon for a country and yes not all of USA is not USA`s, while they`ve managed to reduce that amount to a minimal but ever heard of reservations?

    But aside, from that you trying to say people shouldn`t have a claim on what to call themselves was ridiculous If African-American suits you more than just being human then fine, how is that so much more degrading than distinguishing yourself as a brit rather than a European apparently what you see yourself as holds importance to you so, don`t get high and mighty when people other people do the same.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2010 at 8:33 am
    The only thing offensive about this ad is that it has Ronlad McDonald in it in general ... that clown scares me.
  88. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 13, 2010 at 6:21 pm
    But aside, from that you trying to say people shouldn`t have a claim on what to call themselves was ridiculous

    If I was trying to say that, I would have said it. I didn`t.

    People can call themselves what they like. I can point out when they`re factually wrong in doing so and I can point out the results of doing so.

    Stating my nationality is not factually wrong, so it`s not the same thing. It also doesn`t promote division within a society, so it`s not the same thing in that way either.
  89. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 13, 2010 at 6:26 pm
    Can you please explain how I am reinforcing racism and how exactly I am "requiring people to do so as well"?

    By defining everyone by what you consider to be thier race and arguing strongly against anyone not doing so.

    My point, or at least one of my points, is that racism is reinforced all of the time whether we talk about it or not. In recognizing racism and talking about what causes it we can begin to fix what maintains it.

    Talking about racism and defining people by "race" aren`t the same thing. Defining people by "race" is obviously a fundamental part of maintaining racism.

    This thread has been informative. Before now, I`ve only encountered such passionate advocacy of defining people by "race" from hardcore racists.
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    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 13, 2010 at 7:42 pm
    "I can point out when they`re factually wrong in doing so and I can point out the results of doing so."

    The results of you (and other Whites) pointing out that someone is wrong (factually or not) in naming oneself is the disempowerment of that person and that group of people.

    "By defining everyone by what you consider to be thier race and arguing strongly against anyone not doing so."

    Have you not read any of my responses? One of my biggest points has been that it is each person`s right to name their own ethnicity and for others to respect that choice. I`ve already said that I agree with you and that science has proven that there is no biological basis to racial divisions, but the reality is that there are very real socially determined divisions based on skin color. It is your choice, as a White person to acknowledge that or not, but by not acknowledging it, you are contributing to the maintanance of a racist society, the same thing that
  91. Profile photo of Shnard-dog
    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 13, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    Angilion - You should read Eduardo Bonilla-Silva`s "Racism Without Racists". It is written about the U.S., but I believe it generalizes elsewhere.
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    mischeif954 Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2010 at 8:08 pm
    Europe a Society, Britain subdivision of said society, which is further subdivided into more societies, people are divided into upper class lower class, regionally ffs you guys still care about the royal blood line is if that`s not a crummy way to define a person what is, and you saying your British not European is as factually wrong as me saying I`m American not North American.

    To sum it all up their are divisions among societies whether it be religion, race, wealth, political views, the solution to conflicts amongst divisions is not to erase these divisions, because you can`t they naturally occur. The solution is to realize that these divisions make us different from one another, not necessarily superior.

    Ranting about people who let themselves be categorized into "Races" as Racists will do more harm then good.
  93. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    April 13, 2010 at 9:39 pm
    The results of you (and other Whites) pointing out that someone is wrong (factually or not) in naming oneself is the disempowerment of that person and that group of people.

    So you should think I`m disempowering everyone equally.

    Unsurprisingly, I disagree with your argument and the conclusion you draw from it.

    I also disagree with your basic line of argument, namely that it`s a good thing to identify and group people according to inaccurate and polarising decsriptions of their skin colour.

    I am not my skin colour, let alone an inaccurate and polarising description of it. Anyone who thinks that can go drat themselves. I can`t stop them doing it, but damned if I`m going to do it myself or anyone else.

    So we disagree on a fundamental level and neither of us is going to change the other`s mind.
  94. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    April 13, 2010 at 9:43 pm
    Europe a Society

    Not in any meaningful sense. You may as well claim the whole world is a society.

    At the current rate, Europe might be forced into political unification within a century and be genuinely unified within a few centuries. It certainly isn`t unified now. It isn`t *a* society. Most of the people in it can`t even talk with each other.
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    Shnard-dog Male 30-39
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    April 14, 2010 at 7:42 pm
    "I also disagree with your basic line of argument, namely that it`s a good thing to identify and group people according to inaccurate and polarising decsriptions of their skin colour."

    I definitely never said that it was a good thing.... but that is the way it is, so rather than ignore that that is the case (as you suggest..... don`t acknowledge anyone by their skin color and thus ignore the oppression that results from this ignored skin color.... which must feel really great to have ignored if you`re a person of color), so please don`t try to put words in my mouth you wanker.... hopefully you understand that since you`re British and not European.
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    Jazman135 Male 30-39
    6 posts
    April 14, 2010 at 10:36 pm
    Probably missed the boat but....I personally believe that the answer is not to use the big ol` N-bomb less...but to use it more. I agree with previous posts in one way...i do not judge by peoples physical appearance. I judge by actions. If you live your life to be the best person you can possibly be..of whatever color, race, or religion. If you want better for your kids than what you have or grew up with. I will call you by whatever strikes your fancy. But if your biggest goal in life is to gloriously live up to the most vile and idiotic stereo types your specific group has ever been burdened with...then you are a N:gger. White guy with 14 kids living off welfare and bitching about how you can`t get a job while you drink up the money that was supposed to buy your kids clothes? N:gger..Black guy rapping about slinging crack like it`s the best job in the world? N:gger..Purple flubber monkey from f-ing Zorkon 6 who stuffs rocks up its balehole to get high? N:gger. That`s my piece.
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    fivezones Male 40-49
    1021 posts
    July 4, 2010 at 11:23 pm
    Japan!
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    anrade Female 18-29
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    March 17, 2012 at 3:09 am
    Is it wrong that I am more offended by the fact that Ronald McDonald is portrayed by an Asian?
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    13char Female 70 & Over
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    May 1, 2012 at 8:56 pm
    @anrade . . . Yes.
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    mrrossh Male 18-29
    74 posts
    August 10, 2012 at 2:41 pm
    LMFAO!! I`m sorry, I know racism is wrong, of course it is, it`s just .... funny when asians do it.
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    sevikab Female 18-29
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    February 14, 2013 at 12:47 am
    This is NOT racist, and it is not from Japan. It is Chinese. In Mandarin, "niga" is a space-filling word like "um" or "like."

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