The Mayor Of Champaign, Illinois Hates Obama?

Submitted by: madest 7 years ago in

The mayor of Champaign, IL., Jerry Schweighart, claims Obama is not an American citizen. Welcome to 2010, friends.
There are 103 comments:
Male 881
Yes, the copy released is a "laser printed" copy. Do you know why? Hawaii went paperless in 2001. That means that his records are stored there long before he was elected to the U.S. Senate. It is exactly what every Hawaiian gets when they request their Hawaiian birth certificate. It is stamped by the Registrar. It has the official raised seal. It was investigated by the Health Department and confirmed. It has been confirmed by the Republican Governor of Hawaii. That`s it, it`s over.

You base your twisted theory off the fact that he hasn`t produced the original? I wouldn`t expect anyone to go above and beyond to quiet down a small group of nut cases who have an obvious agenda. Rational people have moved on a long time ago.
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Male 190
its unbelievable that the Teaparty movement members currently know nothing about the tax laws. They say they want lower taxes when in fact for 95% of citizens they have gone down.

They say they want their country back.. from who or what.... it is because your president is black!? it his chocolate goodness offending you!?!?
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Male 712
I`m all right with people claiming our president is foreign born. The only thing they have to do is prove it.
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Male 10,338
Yeah. It`s better that you live in a land with currency that`s worth nothing and a failing bankrupt healthcare system.

Don`t get mad. We are close behind.
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Female 121
man i`m glad i don`t live there.
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Male 1,404
Hey,
I was waiting for some of this anti-tea party crap to surface.
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Male 2,868
United States of Retardia
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Female 336
"The Mayor Of Champaign, Illinois Hates Obama?"

Well join the frickin club! The line forms to the right!
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Male 35
It`s silly if it has no basis, not that silly if it is fact! His health plan is controversial to say the least, hasn`t pulled anyone from the Middle East and has spent more $$ then every President from George "W" Bush to George Washington combined.

Great voice btw!
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Female 3,574
I just think it`s incredibly silly.
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Male 10,338
because it is.... if you dont believe it, ignore it. i dont believe it either. if it was an actual debate, he would not have become president, but i digress.
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Female 3,574
auburnjunky, okay but now his certificate has been seen by all kinds of people and documented to be authentic, including the signature on the back and the raised seal.

I do not understand why this is still being discussed.
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Male 10,338
Yeah that`s a biggie crakrjak. Government fraud = impeachment.
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Male 10,338
Here`s the difference pui.

John McCain was asked about his citizenship. He provided a hard copy (not a fax) of his BC, hospital papers, and military documentation.

Obama was asked for proof of his, and he provided a faxed copy, on fax paper, on just the front of his BC.

That`s why there are questions.
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Male 17,512
Besides, What is more interesting right now is the motion Rod Blagojevich`s lawyers files to compel Obama to testify in court to answer the accusation that Obama tried to influence Rod on who would get his old senate seat.
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Male 10,338
I had forgotten about it crakrjak. It was a joke.

So he got a BJ. I`d lie about it too lol.
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Female 3,574
I just doubt people would have continued to declare McCain a fraud even after he presented a birth certificate.

No way to prove it I guess, I just doubt it.
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Male 17,512
[quote]Well if he was white, I doubt people would deny his legitimacy....[/quote]

If John McCain been president, There would be `birthers`. Like I said before, The `electors` decide who is president, After that it takes impeachment and a trial in the senate for a sitting president to be removed. I seriously doubt the American public has the stomach for another one of those so soon after Bill Clinton`s impeachment and trial.
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Male 10,338
pui: Let me repeat....

"Not saying I believe that, I`m just sayin."

..and yes. Someone of Obama`s clout could do it. It only takes 15 minutes to get a real birth certificate issued to you. I`ve done it.
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Female 3,574
RIGHT it is THAT easy. Gimme a break. lol whatever, this is ridiculous lol. Believe that all you wish, I hope you have a good quality tin foil hat.
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Male 10,338
Pui: peep this.

Obama: I am senator on Illinois right now. I`d like to run for prez.

Michelle: Honey how will you get past the fact that you are a citizen of Indonesia, not America?

Obama: I know a guy in Hawaii. He can get me a birth certificate.

See pui. It wouldn`t take years, just a few moments.

Not saying I believe that, I`m just sayin.
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Female 3,574
CrakrJak, It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world’s biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything’s possible. But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what’s reasonable has to take over.
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Male 17,512
[quote]I think this is a fabrication started by the democrats to cause a story, but that`s just me.[/quote]

This whole `birther` issue came to light from one of Hillary Clinton`s lawyers. He was the first to file suit. So, These are not just `Republicans` or `Conservatives` hating on Obama.
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Female 3,574
Well if he was white, I doubt people would deny his legitimacy after being presented with a real, legitimate document proving his birthplace. It`s not racist of me to say that because I am not saying ALL white people are accusing him of that. Please learn what racism is before accusing people of it.

Yes, but upon seeing his birth certificate they shut up, didn`t they? They didn`t go on to say "IT MUST BE FAKE! HE CAN`T POSSIBLY BE A REAL CITIZEN!!!!!"
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Male 17,512
pui: It wouldn`t be the first time a county clerk has done something illegal. Some have been arrested for embezzlement, removing arrest records, changing vehicle registrations, misplacing or not filing warrants, rigging elections, realty fraud, etc....

Sorry to burst your innocence on this, Public officials are not saints.
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Male 10,338
Saying people only have a problem because he is not white is racist. You should be ashamed.

People had problems with McCain being born (on a US military base) in Panama. He`s white.

It has nothing to do with race. I could care less if he was a damn martian. I think this is a fabrication started by the democrats to cause a story, but that`s just me.

He wouldn`t be president if there were "truly" reason to doubt his citizenship.
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Female 3,574
... That is where it just get`s stupid.

If he was white, no one would be accusing him of having a fake birth certificate fabricated. How the heck does it make ANY sense that it would be fake!? At this point he could get all the doctors and nurses together who were present at his birth to vouch for his legitimacy and birthers would STILL be convinced he just couldn`t possibly be a citizen of the US based on *NOTHING*!

Also, Crackr, Obama doesn`t need to make the birthers look stupid. They do that all by themselves. -_-
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Male 10,338
...and that means what exactly pui? I mean, people who work at DHR are so trustworthy and would never fake a document.
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Female 3,574
First of all, that certificate is clearly not just a "laser printer" version. It has a raised seal and the signature of a *Hawaii state registrar* MEANING someone who can authorize a birth certificate HAS seen it.
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Male 10,338
If his father actually did adopt him as a citizen of Indonesia, and they do not allow dual citizenry, then he in fact is not eligible for the presidency. Sorry folks.

I`m sure they have a good explanation. He wouldn`t have been allowed to run if this was true.

As much as I hate to say it, we have to let this one go.
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Male 17,512
[quote]...for it not to be genuine requires that the conspiracy was planned since Obama`s birth.[/quote]

Actually, I`ve seen birth announced placed by grandparents into their local paper as a way of telling all their friends and acquaintances that they are new grandparents.

I`ve also seen death announcements placed in papers where the deceased formerly resided.

For an example, My dad had parents from different states. Both sets of his grandparents put announcements in their local papers. My dad wasn`t born in either state either, So there was a 3rd announcement placed where my dad`s parents lived. I`m sure this is pretty common.

I`m not a `birther`, Btw.
As I`ve stated several times, I believe he has a real Hawaii BC. I just believe he`s hiding it to keep the controversy `out there` to make `birthers` look like nuts and as a means of distraction.
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Male 35
OK, don`t dive all over me, as I don`t know the facts. I don`t think it is a Birth Certificate issue, isn`t it that he was adopted by daddy Soetoro and as Indonesia doesn`t (didn`t at that time) allow dual citizenship he had to drop his US Citizenship and hence couldn`t run for Pres? I guess it`s a technicality at best, but if it`s fact then it`s Law. I don`t know enough about him or US laws, but I think that is more where the doubt comes from. Typical of people to bring race into it, are we not past that yet? He is as bad as the rest of them and will do nothing for Black Americans, you need to get past the image that a Black Pres is like some Magic man that will help everyone. Lets put it this way, who thinks, if he had the conviction of Martin L King, he would be Pres? He is a puppet like the rest of them.
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Male 7,378
You cannot talk sense to a birther.
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Male 4,290
[quote]almightybob1: anyone can put a `birth announcement` in a newspaper, It doesn`t require a BC to get announced either.[/quote]

Yes, but nobody without the power of precognition would know that he was going to be the President. So it would not be faked.
In the 13 August 1961 edition of the local paper, the Honolulu Advertiser, it announced births in the local area, one of whom was the current President.

It is not legal proof of his birth, no.
But if it`s genuine, for whatever reason, then Obama is a naturalised citizen of the US. And for it not to be genuine requires that the conspiracy was planned since Obama`s birth.

The evidence is right there in the paper`s microfilm archives.
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Male 4,745
Who cares?? Point is, he is the best thing to happen to your country in years! If he can fix the mess that some of the previous Presidents made and take out some of the hatred, ignorance and abuse of your citizens, then who cares where he is from?

Truth is that folks who oppose him are either racist or greedy bastards that only care about themselves. The sort of scum that would close an orphanage while twisting their mustaches.

The Obama issue is very telling about a person`s level of morality and decency.
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Male 229
Crakr - Time to get over it buddy.
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Male 17,512
almightybob1: anyone can put a `birth announcement` in a newspaper, It doesn`t require a BC to get announced either.

pui: You linked to 1 of only 2 websites, sympathetic to Obama, That has seen this 2007 laser printed BC. No Judge has seen it, No experts in the field of documents have seen it.

A 1963 Hawaiian BC looks like this.

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Male 4,807
Americans are still on about this?
You must be joking!?
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Male 229
"no you arent, you are a 70+ year old man from africa. internet never lies"

Addler - and you`re a 13-17 year old boy which means your prefrontal cortex hasn`t finished developing, which means your ability to reason is basically sh-t.
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Female 3,574
Crackr, his birth certificate is real..

You`re complaining he hasn`t shown proof of his legitimacy, but he HAS. Anyone who denies his legitimacy now is simply blocking their eyes and ears.
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Male 4,290
Crackr - don`t forget, the conspiracy owned the 1961 newspaper too.
Impressive foresight of them to put a fake birth announcement in the 1961 copy of the paper, wasn`t it?
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Male 7,378
v The only people uninformed about the controversy are those who think he`s not American. v
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Male 17,512
[quote]Ok, fine. If he really has no legal right to be president then why hasn`t the supreme court done anything about it?[/quote]

So far, All the judges faced with these cases have dismissed them citing that he is a sitting president. The law concerning removing a president is quite clear, It`s via impeachment, trial and conviction by the congress. Even if the dismissed cases are appealed and It`s found he was born in Kenya, It wouldn`t automatically remove him from office.

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Male 111
Honestly, I could give a rat`s patoot where he was born or any of that crap. Repubs and dems are both massively corrupt and neither party should have anything to do with running this country. The problem in America isn`t "bipartisan politics", it`s the two party system. Does it really matter who you vote for when your choices for president come down to a theocratic fascist or a gun-hating socialist? WE NEED MORE OPTIONS!
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Male 111
Ok, fine. If he really has no legal right to be president then why hasn`t the supreme court done anything about it?
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Male 496
election of 2000, that is.

oh, and enought - t*
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Male 496
it kills me how people can concentrate soooo much on something that seems so trivial compared to all the other stuff going on. worst case scenario: he is not American (because having a mother who is natural-born American and GROWING UP IN AMERICA are really just technicalities). OMG, democracy as we know it will crumble.
nevermind all the messed up things that people we entrust with our government do...including, but not limited to: thieving, lying, engaging with prostitution and other sins of fornication, puppy beating (i may have made that one up) and general misconduct.
in no way am i saying that every politician is like this. nor am i saying that just bc some are like this we should just ignore something as `trivial` as nationality. (bc someone will be arrogant enought to quote me out-of-context like that).
all i`m saying is that if you are really that concerned about the integrity of our nation`s electoral system, then you should consider 2000.
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Female 130
"I`m going to post this again, Because people remain uninformed about the controversy." A politician using strategic sleight of hand? HOW CONTROVERSIAL11!11
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Male 8,302
Hahahahahahaha
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Male 17,512
.....while what`s really important is hidden in their left hand.

This is transparency ? I think not!
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Male 17,512
I`m going to post this again, Because people remain uninformed about the controversy.

Are these real ?

It`s not racist to question a president`s "natural born citizen" claim. The supposed BC Obama shown was printed in 2007 with a laser printer, It is not the original long form BC (That`s Obvious Fact).

McCain provided his BC during the `08 campaign, His birth place would`ve caused the same sort of controversy, Only we`d be hearing from the other side had he won.

As I said before, Obama could settle this in less than a day and he doesn`t. He wants this `out there`, He wants to make `birthers` look like nuts and it provides the left with ammunition to hurl at the right. It`s distraction, The same thing magicians use on stage to keep you looking at their right hand while what`s really
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Male 22
@ Tay-dor. I don`t want you to misconstrue my feelings towards your statement " And liberals call us insane". I don`t think you are insane. I think you are both hopelessly misguided and ignorant. Ok I won`t butter it up any more... I think your just stupid.
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Male 776
"god damn it, im from champaign this is not how the whole town thinks please make a stop bye and see"

no you arent, you are a 70+ year old man from africa. internet never lies. congrats by the way, isnt your average life expectancy like, idk 5 around there?
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Male 450
god damn it, im from champaign this is not how the whole town thinks please make a stop bye and see
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Female 120
Shnard-dog is right. We live in a extremely passive racist society. I think most people think of active racism when they think racist. I don`t want to really rant on so anti believers should just go take an anthropology class on racism.
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Male 104
@deadbass72 Obama produced his birth cert in 2008. Google it. Wikipedia it. Snopes it. Politifact it. Do any of that research and quit listening to pundits who tell you what you wish were true.
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Male 776
""Fact is that I, and many others, don`t care what his skin colour is"

That`s the point."

yeah! fool!!! didnt you read the rulebook!!!??? You have to care what color his skin is, otherwise you dont know how much leniency you are supposed to give, ugh retard. Black= no matter how bad he may ever drat up, you`re not allowed to critisize him at all, period. Stupid racists, ignoring the golden rule of not being racist by giving different treatment to those of different race!! racially speaking of course
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Male 731
He is. END OF STORY
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Male 229
"Fact is that I, and many others, don`t care what his skin colour is"

That`s the point.
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Male 40,290
@Shnard-dog I am aware that certian groups use "code words" for their hate-talk. That in no way explains why I am a "racist" for opposing Obama`s plans to "redistribute wealth".
Anyhow, he`s half-white. Fact is that I, and many others, don`t care what his skin colour is, and are sick and tired of it being used as an excuse to deflect any & all criticism of him.
Birtherism is a flase flag, most likely propagated by Counter-Intelligence Program.
>>Serious ends! Joke to follow!<<
Anyhow, what would you know about it DOG-BOY?
(lolz! I hope)
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Male 166
being the leader of the free world seems like a job that they would need to see a birth certificate for.... and seeing as how he works for us if we demand it he should damn well produce it or GTFO
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Male 229
5cats - Sorry, you`re wrong on this one. Modern racism / Colorblind racism is very real. I am guessing you`re white, and most of us Whites don`t recognize it if we see it. Goaliejerry is right..... sorry.
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Male 40,290
"Modern racists don`t explicitly say they hate ni**ers"
goaliejerry, you are so FoS I wish sincerely that you`d StFU.
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Male 175
So another kook slips through the cracks and gets elected to local politics... What`s new? What`s worse, an insane person, or another disingenuous, artificial, self-serving sociopath who usually get elected? At least a crazy local politician can freely spout the bullpoo they believe, rather than pandering to the masses with lies.
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Male 138
yeah, you know, because America, and all that fu%kin CONTINENT is a pure race... fudge this.
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Female 3,574
@xhappyhourx Yes, actually.

It`s fine to not like Obama, but denying that he is a citizen of the USA is just silly. Take off your tin foil hat, please.
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Female 34
So people, have you seen his birth certificate? No? Oh yea. Stfu all of you. Obama`s not a citizen.
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Male 736
He IS a citizen - there`s proof.
But hey, listen, there`s proof for evolution but people still insist that evolution is a sham.
People will believe ANYTHING as long as it goes against Obama...socialisml communism, fascism, cosmopolitanism, whatever - these retrogrades just want him gone - they want Bush back because he made them feel smarter...
And people are afraid of Iran getting the nuke?
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Female 3,574
[quote]You can`t just "disagree" with documented, objective facts, despite how badly you want to, or how badly you wish the facts were otherwise.[/quote]
Exactly. It`s not a matter of opinion.
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Male 4,014
"Its racist cos "OMG, someone disagrees with the holy savior, Obama!"

You can`t just "disagree" with documented, objective facts, despite how badly you want to, or how badly you wish the facts were otherwise.

Whats ironic about you is that while exhibiting reflexive anti-Obamaism, you somehow imply that people who call birthers racists have no basis to stand on. I don`t think you actually listen to our arguments, and instead just plug your ears, roll your eyes, and say "there go the Obama bots again!"
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Male 4,014
Tay-Dor - its racist because despite the fact that REPORTERS HAVE HANDLED AND PHOTOGRAPHED HIS ACTUAL BIRTH-CERTIFICATE, these teabagger types continue this whisper campaign that he is really from Kenya and a Muslim. WHY? Because a certain percentage of America cannot accept that a legitimate black man is in charge.

Modern racists don`t explicitly say they hate ni**ers, INSTEAD they say he`s "Kenyan," *wink wink," and thus shouldn`t be their president.

You`re just pissed off that these people are your allies, and you`ll always have to deal with that.
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Male 4,014
I love this sh*t! Teabagging birthers only help to deligitimize their allies, so please, nutjobs, keeping talking about this. Its very helpful that these nutjobs ALWAYS SUPPORT REPUBLICANS.
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Male 265
Its racist cos "OMG, someone disagrees with the holy savior, Obama!"

And liberals call us insane.
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Female 509
Oh, gawd...this again.
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Male 559
These people are not racist, they are just sheep.
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Male 7,378
Here`s how it`s racist. In the face of all the proof as NottaSpy pointed out this douche can`t accept this black man as an American much less the President of the US. The entire lot of birthers are racist.
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Male 334
""Oh look, another racist old white fart holding office in the heartland of America. Gee, what a surprise."

How is this racist? What does race have to do with this? "

You`ve missed the point hiitacular. You`ve obviously forgotten that any white person who has a problem with Obama is racist.
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Male 478
He`s old. What did you expect?
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Male 161
"Oh look, another racist old white fart holding office in the heartland of America. Gee, what a surprise."

How is this racist? What does race have to do with this?

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Male 40,290
[quote] if this is the best the opposition can come up with. - LazyMe484[/quote]
YUP! That`s the ONLY thing we don`t like about Obama!
Oh wait, forign policy, taxes increasing, socilization of auto industry, says "um" inbetween every word, socialized medicine, friends with convicted terrorist, lies about Mr Ayers, bows to forign despots, shreds constitution, been golfing 43 times since taking office...
I could go on...
But YEAH that`s the ONLY thing people have against him...
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Male 591
madest, that was mean. And very, very funny.
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Male 5,194
Oh look, another racist old white fart holding office in the heartland of America. Gee, what a surprise.
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Male 881
Obama`s Hawaiian birth certificate has been produced. It is signed and it had the official raised seal. The Republican Governor of Hawaii has backed it up. Court rulings have backed it up. Other various government agencies in Hawaii have backed it up. Seriously, no wonder conspiracy theories never die, people don`t give up!
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Male 2,345
umm he did produce a birth certificate...how many times do we have to go over this poo...
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Male 798
he looks a lot like ben franklin
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Male 208
I go to u of i. if i find him i will kick him in the face
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Female 254
What LazyMe484 said. Saying he doesn`t believe Obama is a natural-born citizen does not imply in any way that he hates him.
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Male 214
i think he also looks alot like Robert De Niro
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Male 7,378
I didn`t know auburnjunky was the mayor of Champaign.
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Male 214
he looks alot like Tommy Lee Jones
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Male 8
Wow, I`m quite shocked the mayor of my city made it to IAB. I saw this clip on the local news and just shook my head.
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Male 2,056
okay, do you really think obama would`ve gotten elected (or even into the bloody [quote]government system[/quote]) if he wasn`t american?
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Male 25,417
wow!
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Male 1,793
idiot!!!!!
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Male 10,440
Perhaps this means that Obama is actually a pretty good president, if this is the best the opposition can come up with. Then again, it could also mean that the opposition is stupid.
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Male 10,440
[quote] The Mayor Of Champaign, Illinois Hates Obama? [/quote]

He didn`t say he hated Obama you idiot.

And like I said before, even if he`s not American, it shouldn`t matter.
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Female 2,352
Do reporters theses days just have an idiot radar?

Reporter: *beep**beep* Man this guy is practically retarded. .quick get a soundbite!
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Male 10,855
<facepalm>
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Male 63
I`m so sick of Obama opponents using this argument. I mean really? Why don`t you just come out and say why you really are against him, whatever that may be. Don`t hide behind "I don`t think he`s a citizen."
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Male 591
The mayor of Champaign, IL., Jerry Schweighart, is an idiot.
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Male 2,551
I thought he did produce it awhile ago?
And then took it down again...or something.
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Male 2,440
Birthers. ughhhhhhhhhh
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Male 7,378
Link: The Mayor Of Champaign, Illinois Hates Obama? [Rate Link] - The mayor of Champaign, IL., Jerry Schweighart, claims Obama is not an American citizen. Welcome to 2010, friends.
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