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Date: 04/12/10 10:04 AM

50 Responses to Symphony of Science: The Unbroken Thread

  1. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 9:00 am
    Link: Symphony of Science: The Unbroken Thread - Carl Sagan, Jane Goodall, and David Attenborough jam out about evolution in this 4th installment of the Symphony series.
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    TopperHey Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:23 am
    Sweeeeeeeeet
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:23 am
    These are always so cool and well done, my favorite one is We are all connected
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    greggpethers Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:26 am
    "it began in the sea, some 3000 million years ago".

    oooohhhh... this is so good at explaining evolution, but why dont they ever say how the sea came about? or the planet the sea is in?

    everyone seems so sure of evolution, and it seems so convincing in this video... why does noone ever start from the beginning?

    frustrating!
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:52 am
    I`m going to admit it - if someone tells me they don`t believe in evolution, I dismiss them outright. You can`t argue with the willfully ignorant.


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    madmanofhell Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:52 am
    Wuzzy?
  7. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:53 am
    The earth was grown from dust and comets brought water. Life formed. Whats difficult about that?
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:57 am
    Can it be any louder!! I think my eardrum is bleeding.
  9. Profile photo of goaliejerry
    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 11:01 am
    "why dont they ever say how the sea came about?"

    A theory says H2O was carried here on frozen asteroids, and the particularities of earths magnetic field and climate were such that the H2O didn`t boil away into space. There are probably other theories as well.

    What I cannot accept is flat denial of evolutionary process.

    How can one explain finding the bones of animals long since dead, yet who bear striking - though different - similarities to animals I find today? I don`t accept that God planted fossils to test my faith. I think it more likely an animal long ago died in soil conditions that preserved the outline of his bones.

    Occam`s razor - the simplest explination is most likely correct. I CAN FOSSILIZE SOMETHING RIGHT NOW IN A SIMPLE EXPERIMENT.

    Its reasonable fossils happened in the past. Far more reasonable than god did it.

    However, I also have proof that some "rules" govern existence, and therein lies
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 11:02 am
    my god.
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    WolfStar Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 11:07 am
    `why does noone ever start from the beginning?`

    They do, but in different programmes. There are plenty of clips/websites/books out there explaining how the Earth and the seas formed, but it`s a different subject to that of evolution.
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    greggpethers Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 11:12 am
    i sort of agree with you,WolfStar, but then i sort of dont too.

    i can honestly say that evolution is obviously happening, and that the vid is a pretty cool explanation of it.

    but when it says "it began in the sea, some 3000 million years ago" it just makes me wonder what did? you know... like the whole chain of life is connected by a single thread... but then, so is everything that came before it. you see what i mean?

    i just wish that part was as well explained and logical.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 12:05 pm
    God doesn`t test faith.

    I have faith there is a God.

    I also have faith that 2 billion years ago He set into motion events that have shaped the world into what it is today.

    EVOLUTION is real. It is natural. God started the ball rolling, and he let it roll. A few times, he intervenes in evolution (eyes, brain development, complex evolution) but for the most part, he put us (all living things) here to be free and that`s exactly what he is doing.

    I wish more Christians felt this way, but some of them are just close minded/oblivious to facts.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 12:14 pm
    @Gregpethers - The video here is simply a compilation or segments from a documentary which was put through a vocoder so make it melodic. It was not meant to give a comprehensive explanation of evolution. If you want to learn more about this is a great site to visit: http://www.pbs.org/ wgbh/evolution/darwin/
    - minus the space.
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    osmandias Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 12:15 pm
    greggpethers: `"it began in the sea, some 3000 million years ago".

    oooohhhh... this is so good at explaining evolution`

    Actually, it isn`t. Everything from the first prokaryotes to the now living species is reasonably well explained by evolution.
    The beginning of life isn`t. (And since it`s not
    a process of evolving from one form to another, it`s not part of evolution theory.)
    There are some theories about how life began, but we really don`t know yet. That makes it more exciting to me - science in progress.
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    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 12:22 pm
    Faith is the belief in something without evidence. I for one, am not so arrogant to believe in something and protest that belief unto others without evidence.
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    greggpethers Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 12:27 pm
    @brassbull

    thanks. will give that a go.
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    kenisaim Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2010 at 1:14 pm
    @auburnjunky - The reason Christians dont believe that is because they believe in the bible. And the bible doesn`t support your idea.
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    osmandias Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 1:35 pm
    kenisaim: "@auburnjunky - The reason Christians dont believe that is because they believe in the bible. And the bible doesn`t support your idea."

    There are some 2 billion christians in over 100 churches. Very few of them take the bible literally. It isn`t considered dogma for most of them.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    These are always so cool and well done

    They are crap, Just because they stuffed their voices through auto-tune and set it to music doesn`t make them cool or well done.

    :facepalm:
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    zazuch Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 2:43 pm
    @greagpethers

    This is whats wrong with anti evoultionists. You fail to see that evoultion is not how life started. Notice i said life not planet not seas but life. ITs not a idea of how life started but how it has came to be.

    Also if you take 2 seconds you would realize there are also a lot of ideas on how the planet started(such as asteroids steadily colliding and collecting/fusing together from when they impact till they formed the inner rocky planets.)(This idea is why people believe if it wasn`t for Jupiter gravitational influence there would be a 4th rocky planet where the asteroid belt is. But its gravity didn`t allow those planetesimals to form into a planet.) as well as how water came to be on the earth. But these elements are NOT covered in evolution.
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    alikabul Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 3:12 pm
    Goddammit! I hate autotune! I`d rather just turn off the sound and watch the subtitles.
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    Imadude Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    LOL Carl Sagan sounds like Kermit the frog.

    I believe in guided evolution. I mean the universe is so perfectly tuned for life that it couldnt be a coincidence. And ive read that its not just life but matter itself. If anything were slightly different in the big bang the universe as we know it would not exist.
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    ElSombrero Male 13-17
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    April 12, 2010 at 5:25 pm
    Jane Goodal`s use of the word "wuzzie" shall now make it acceptable speech. I, for one, plan to implement this word immediantly.
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    vertex67 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    @Imadude
    ever heard of the anthropic principle?
    What you are referring to is the formation of stars, because as far as we know life would be impossible without stars (and if some universal constants were a bit off stars wouldn`t form).
    A lack of an explanation does not mean `god did it`
    you are simply making the same mistake humans have made for thousands of years:

    ancient egyptian looking at sun:
    "What is that shiney thing in the sky? It must be god, because I can think of no other explanation"
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 6:08 pm
    I believe in guided evolution. I mean the universe is so perfectly tuned for life that it couldnt be a coincidence. And ive read that its not just life but matter itself. If anything were slightly different in the big bang the universe as we know it would not exist.

    And then we wouldn`t exist to talk about it. You`re mistaking effect for cause. You`re also doing the "god of the gaps" thing - creating a god or gods to stand in for your own ignorance. "I don`t know how it happened, therefore god did it". I don`t know how it happened either, but I`m OK with admitting that.
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    CRA-Z_HEART Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 6:15 pm
    Im not afraid to admit that I find anything regarding life and evolution fascinating and very interesting. It`s a very complex system to study, the beauty of life.

    However, I`m also not afraid to admit that I am a Christian, and a very devout believer in God`s Word. Sometimes I can only think the complexity of life itself and the beauty that it holds only holds God`s word to be more true.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 6:15 pm
    oooohhhh... this is so good at explaining evolution, but why dont they ever say how the sea came about? or the planet the sea is in?

    everyone seems so sure of evolution, and it seems so convincing in this video... why does noone ever start from the beginning?

    i) It`s a different theory. Evolution is about the *development* of life, not how the first life started. Evolution doesn`t start at the beginning in the sense you refer to. Planetary formation is another theory again. Planetary development yet another. Scientists generally try to not confuse different things.

    ii) There is less compelling evidence for some of the other stuff, particularly the beginning of life. It`s hard to find evidence for something that happened billions of years ago and has not happened since. Scientists generally try to not assume that a well supported theory automatically validates a less supported one.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 6:18 pm
    They are crap, Just because they stuffed their voices through auto-tune and set it to music doesn`t make them cool or well done.

    I like the idea of these videos, but stuffing the voices through autotune to distort them gets on my tits. Why do it?
  30. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 6:36 pm
    Angilion - i guess just cause they can. it was interesting to me that you could make discourse into music like this but auto-tune can go die now.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 7:34 pm
    learning is fun!
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 8:12 pm
    2:19 OM NOM NOM NOM!!!

    nice video. Brings a smile to my face.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 8:13 pm
    Hey IAB, can you get rid of all the spammers? If you`re too lazy to do it yourself make more mods to do it for you.
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    derf_bag Male 30-39
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    April 12, 2010 at 8:26 pm
    Lotsa plastic muscle here...ruber dancer
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    XbigXmommaX Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 9:02 pm
    i love these videos!!! moar plz!!
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 9:57 pm
    God doesn`t test faith.
    BZZZZT. Wrong answer.

    Genesis 22:1-24. God tests Abraham`s faith by asking him to sacrifice his son Isaac.

    The entire Book of Job is God testing Job`s faith by utterly destroying everything good in Job`s life.
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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:08 pm
    Hey IAB, can you get rid of all the spammers? If you`re too lazy to do it yourself make more mods to do it for you.

    Dude, you`re more than welcome to come to the Bad Company 2 forums. Spam up the freakin` arse B-|
    Oh, and no mod support to delete all that /b/ crap. I`ll sure as hell take the IAB mods any day, because they are the best I`ve seen.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 10:23 pm
    @ Skreshavik > I`m arrogant and my standards are high.
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    Tonyjet Male 18-29
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    April 12, 2010 at 11:10 pm
    i love ya almightybob and btw this sounds like vince with the chopper remix
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    April 12, 2010 at 11:21 pm
    It would be so much better without Autotune. >-(
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    April 12, 2010 at 11:23 pm
    > LazyMe484
    > Hey IAB, can you get rid of all the spammers?

    You wouldn`t believe how many posts from that frakkin shoebot get deleted every day. The average time they stay up in about 4 minutes, which isn`t a bad job for 12 or so people spread around the world.

    That said, I`m FRAKKIN sick of them myself, so if they don`t stop real soon, I`m gonna write a spambot that will make them sorry they ever logged here in the first place.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    April 13, 2010 at 4:17 am
    "I believe in guided evolution. I mean the universe is so perfectly tuned for life that it couldnt be a coincidence. And ive read that its not just life but matter itself. If anything were slightly different in the big bang the universe as we know it would not exist."

    ..and we wouldn`t know about it.

    You`re like a puddle of water that is impressed because the shape of the hole you`re in fits you exactly.

    Anyway, if you roll with big oscillation theory, then there has been an infinite number of universes preceeding this one, any of which may or may not have given rise to life.
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    evanovix Male 30-39
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    April 13, 2010 at 6:58 am
    to be fair we do not really know how it all began. The big bang theory suggests that something happened some 13,7 billion years ago, but what was going on before that? If anything? Perhaps the big-bang took place in an already excisting universe? Nobody knows =) Even so, the big bang theory is the best theory we have, and it is most compatible with the observations we make today.

    Claiming a god did this, and a god did that is not really challenging our intellects, it forces us to think inside a box where there are only two possible outcomes, "there is a higher power, or there is not."

    Science is a work in progress while religious ideas are based on a script already cut in stone.
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    evanovix Male 30-39
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    April 13, 2010 at 7:02 am
    but ps! as i forgot to add in my previous post.. religions may challenge our minds in different ways that perhaps science cannot, so maybe I was abit harsh claiming that religions are "dumbing" us down =D
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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
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    April 13, 2010 at 9:24 am
    Hmm...I see, LazyMe XD
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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
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    April 13, 2010 at 9:24 am
    Is that one of the spammers? *Pokes with a stick*
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    April 13, 2010 at 10:44 am
    Damn but I will be glad when "autotune" pukes out its last ugly note and dies once and for all.
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    oxyl Male 30-39
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    April 13, 2010 at 3:37 pm
    WUZZIE!
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    IshiiDaFishy Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2010 at 6:32 pm
    SAGAN SOUNDS LIKE ERNIE! damn i love sesame street.
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    joofro Male 18-29
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    April 13, 2010 at 9:47 pm
    this video has some fantastic imagery.

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