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48 Responses to Stephen Hawking Warns Against Making Contact w/ ET

  1. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 9:39 am
    Link: Stephen Hawking Warns Against Making Contact w/ ET - But Hawking has a good reason for his resistance for earth to make contact with aliens...
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    Thesphinx Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 10:16 am
    I think Hawkings is just being paranoid. If we could somehow contact the aliens first before they could contact us, I think they wouldn`t be likely as technologically advanced.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2010 at 10:18 am
    Do a Hawking roll!
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    ProXLaw Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2010 at 10:21 am
    I agree with Hawking. If an alien species were advanced enough to visit our planet from millions of light years away, our species would probably seem primitive... or worse. We could be like an ant hill to a boy with a magnifying glass.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 10:25 am
    this is common sense really, but i guess since hawking said it people will listen now.
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    vilem Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 10:25 am
    Everybody knows we contact the relatively good vulcans first.
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    Molehouse Male 13-17
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    April 27, 2010 at 10:31 am
    Look what happened to the Native Americans.

    Advanced Europeans discover a new land - America, send a couple of ships across and start to kill the natives and each other.

    We`d do exactly the same thing.
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 10:41 am
    I don`t think our own history of more technologically advanced humans meeting less advanced / primitive humans translates to aliens meeting us. You are comparing apples and oranges.

    Yes, advanced humans took advantage, robbed, spread diseases and took political control in every case I can think of but aliens are not humans. Who know what motivates them?

    It’s a complete crap shoot as to what they might or might not do and you have to throw the dice each time for each new alien species. There is simply not enough information to make any judgment at this point.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 10:47 am
    I like being at the top of the food chain.
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 11:02 am
    He can list every bad reason there is and, if we got the chance to, I would still want to make contact. That is just such a f*cking awesome opportunity and I am too curious of a person.
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 11:15 am
    @ProXLaw. My point is that we can`t say whether it is safe or dangerous since we don;t have the information.

    It is common knowledge that pros carry serious risk of STDs. Not the same situation at all.

    A better comparision is this. Do guys risk unprotected sex with a woman they just met about whom they know little or nothing? The answer is YES. Yes they do. :)
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    Geogypsy Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 11:22 am
    I think that Hawking has good judgement.

    I mean, just think of all of those books, television shows and movies about humans making first contact. Not all of them depict us having beneficial or peaceful relationships with aliens.

    (Though I do think that it would be interesting to encounter a microbial, genius species of ET. Don`t discount THAT possibility Hawking!)
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 11:27 am
    I guess the mod removed ProXLaw`s comment.
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    ProXLaw Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2010 at 11:54 am
    Hey! My comment was removed! I guess I have to choose my words more carefully...
    Anyway, Creabhain I get your point. It`s unknown. Bottom line: some people err to the side of caution, some jump in with both feet. In this situation, where the potential stake could be the entire human race, I say caution is needed. And yes, I wear condoms (even when I do know her). ;-)
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    April 27, 2010 at 12:01 pm
    Thing is, what do we have that the aliens would want? I doubt that they`d still be using fossil fuels that far into the future, and surely there`s thousands of other uninhabited planets with metals if they needed them. I suppose they could enslave us, but wouldn`t robots do a better job?

    Still I suppose this is a good argument for using up all our resources before the aliens kill us for them.
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    green_batman Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 12:04 pm
    He is assuming that alien life that travels through the galaxy would have to have the same moral failings as humans had in the past, and have to a lesser degree today. Our moral standards have generally increased as we have become more developed. I think this is because moral standards improve upon the efficiency and survivability of a society. If a civilization had advanced to the point where they were capable of long-range space travel, I think they would also be very socially developed. There may be some differences to work out between our society and the society of the alien species, but I think they would begin peacefully.
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    green_batman Female 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 12:06 pm
    vilem: Your comment made my day. :D
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 12:10 pm
    I`m with Hawking on this, for now.

    Its not like we can transmit any kind of signal that far anyway.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 1:46 pm
    How can you compare the Human history with whatever the Aliens history could be? I also dont agree with Hawking on this one
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    ElSombrero Male 13-17
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    April 27, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    My favorite quote from him on this is "If the governments are hiding the presence of aliens, then they seem to be doing it better than anything else."
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2010 at 2:09 pm
    He has a point, for a species that has nothing to lose on the point of death is iminant on there current path. They may not be so friendly!
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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    April 27, 2010 at 2:41 pm
    Why is it always doomsday theories with people like this?
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    tenty Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 2:47 pm
    Why would an alien space ship have weapons on board? They really thought "I better chuck some of this food out to fit in some nukes just incase I come across a liveable planet filled with smart monkeys".
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    Spocom Female 13-17
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    April 27, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    I think he`s upset because aliens will never come for him...
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    Mr_Chubbles Female 13-17
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    April 27, 2010 at 4:26 pm
    Well, they didn`t get technologically advanced enough to come to earth be being NICE. And of all the bazillions of planets out there, who says we`re the first ones they`ve come in contact with?

    I do think they`d want to preserve some humans, however, cuz if you came across a species smart enough to transmit pictures of cats in less than a second, you`d want to keep some alive too.
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    Asspenny Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 4:38 pm
    It`s interesting in that, if we had the technology, and regardless of whether or not our planet was a waste land, we`d still probably try to annex the planet for our own needs. Nonetheless, I still think we should make contact.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    Why would an alien space ship have weapons on board?

    Prudence. If you have no idea what`s out there, have some way to defend yourself.

    Aggression. Maybe there`s something out there you want. Maybe someone else is out there and also wants it. Make sure you`ll win.

    Knowledge. Maybe you know that there are people out there like that. Maybe piracy occurs. Maybe it`s like Elite out there.

    They really thought "I better chuck some of this food out to fit in some nukes just incase I come across a liveable planet filled with smart monkeys".

    If they can travel in space for long periods of time, they must have cracked the problem of carrying enough food.

    Food is no use if you`re dead because you couldn`t fight back/blow up that rock that was going to hit your ship/whatever.
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    IkeRay Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 5:49 pm
    scary to think I think just like Hawkings about the subject. I love space exploration, I`d love to see terraforming or really just how far through our solar system is feasible for a single trip (I`ve also speculated about "generational trip" where a man and a woman (or 2 men and 2 women) go into space at a young age (18-25), mate when they reach 30-35, and when their kids reach 15-20 they return trip. talk about giving your life for science, it might be unrealistic the way technology advances as in 30-50 years we might have overcome the exit velocity using up all the fuel and maybe create a faster form of travel w/o destroying the body during acceleration.

    but I`ve told LOTS of people, lets hope the aliens aren`t like humans. "look that one is running, shoot it quick!" "that one has holes, lets stick our in it"
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 6:13 pm
    Or... we could be the ones doing the interstellar conquering, in which case it will be like Avatar, and there will be epic music.
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    Flashpacker Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 6:17 pm
    @Angilion

    "blow up that rock that was going to hit your ship/whatever."

    mmm, Young grasshopper. is it the rock that hit you or you that hit rock?
    it is we that should adapt to the universe, not the other way around, no?
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    Spider_sol Male 18-29
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    April 27, 2010 at 6:40 pm
    Angilion, I think you grew up watching too much science fiction.

    Personally I think this is an option, some alien race may come to our planet and destroy us. But the far greater option is that they would search the billions of planets in billion of galaxies and be able to find one on which they don`t have to destroy the native people.

    If we ever get the technology for long distance space travel, we will have many unmanned scout ships going first (we already have some now). We won`t choose an inhabited planet and destroy the natives.... I would hope.

    Reason tends to side with a civilization advanced enough for space travel should be advanced enough to not senselessly murder other species.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    > Spider_sol
    > But the far greater option is that they would search the billions of planets in billion of galaxies and be able to find one on which they don`t have to destroy the native people

    Actually, the far greater option is that mankind will never even get out of the solar system, and never meet anything which may or may not live out there. We believe its possible because of decades of sci-fi, but its just NOT.

    To get to Proxima Centauri, the CLOSEST of the billions of stars out there, will take 81,000 years using the yet to be invented but not far away Ion Drive.

    Here`s a good website showing the reality of space travel.
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2010 at 7:47 pm
    Ohh Crap Lionhart checks Universe Today as well!?

    And yeah I tend to think the idea of us departing the Solar System with any hope of actually going *somewhere* is a good looooong ways out there.

    *However* We do have a pretty frickin` awesome Solar System, apparently all to ourselves. Colonization of other planets and their moons doesn`t seem too far fetched to my mind, and the fact is, it seems like a pretty damned good idea if we like the idea of the Human Race continuing to exist.

    Either way I am with Mr. Hawking in his belief if for no other reason than the fear that *if* we met an alien species, there are enough stupid members of my own species that would do something irrational like starting a war for no good reason that it`s probably best for all parties if we just keep to ourselves until we learn to coexist with all of the creatures that share our genus.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2010 at 8:14 pm
    Lionhart, I think if we are going to discuss space travel, the biggest question for me, is how hard would it be to stay were we are for 6 months?

    It seems to me, it would be more important to see what is on the other side of the sun first, as opposed to what is at the next star.
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    DrunkStepdad Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 9:13 pm
    Maybe when the aliens take over they will let us all open up casinos.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    April 27, 2010 at 9:37 pm
    I agree with Stevie. All we need is for those idiots at SETI to give away our location, and the next thing we know, were slave labor in a cobalt mine on some God-forsaken asteroid in the outer fringes of the galaxy!
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 10:57 pm
    mmm, Young grasshopper. is it the rock that hit you or you that hit rock?
    it is we that should adapt to the universe, not the other way around, no?

    It makes no difference. What hits what is only a matter of your frame of reference.

    And no. We are intelligent tool-users. We adapt our surroundings to suit us. We just need to learn to do it better.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 11:08 pm
    Angilion, I think you grew up watching too much science fiction.

    It`s equally science fiction to assume all people from all spacefaring species are caring and gentle. Equally science fiction but more wishful thinking.

    Even if it`s true, all it means is that you won`t need the weapons. Good.

    Reason tends to side with a civilization advanced enough for space travel should be advanced enough to not senselessly murder other species.

    Technology does not require gentleness. You are treating two different kinds of "advanced" as the same thing. Rome, for example. It was very advanced technologically, but aggressive and bloody.

    Even if your hypothesis is true, it wouldn`t rule out a less "advanced" society stealing the technology and using it to advance their technology very quickly.

    Like ProXLaw, I advise caution when the stakes are our entire species.
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    vapor13 Male 30-39
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    April 27, 2010 at 11:12 pm
    I thoroughly enjoyed Into The Universe this weekend when it aired.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 11:13 pm
    I`ve also speculated about "generational trip" where a man and a woman (or 2 men and 2 women) go into space at a young age (18-25), mate when they reach 30-35, and when their kids reach 15-20 they return trip.

    If the ship nevers goes fast enough for time dilation to have a big effect, it doesn`t get anywhere much in 25-35 years. If it does reach high enough speeds to get anywhere much, if they return they`ll find millenia have passed on Earth. So maybe humans born millenia after the generation ship left will reach wherever it`s going before it does (with some sort of pseudo-FTL drive invented in between).
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    April 27, 2010 at 11:24 pm
    Actually, the far greater option is that mankind will never even get out of the solar system, and never meet anything which may or may not live out there. We believe its possible because of decades of sci-fi, but its just NOT.

    Not now, no. Maybe in the future, with more efficient means of converting matter to energy and the strange effects of relatistic speeds.

    Maybe our descendents will find some way to cheat their way around the speed limit with shortcuts.

    But I doubt if either will happen in the lifetime of any of us here.
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    StarDagger Male 40-49
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    April 28, 2010 at 1:08 am
    WE will have FTL within 200 years, most likely less. I chuckle at all the arm chair scientists trying to sound smart by poo-pooing the idea of FTL.
    Minds much more open shall find a way...
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    April 28, 2010 at 2:58 am
    Stephen Hawking is a brilliant man to be sure.

    He seems to like making ridiculous ideas sound plausible to increase his fame/controversy though.

    Given his past theories relating to quantumphysics and `alternate dimensions` & all that, i`m beginning to think he makes his evidence fit the theory rather than the theory fit the evidence.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    April 28, 2010 at 4:56 am
    > Reignblazer
    > Stephen Hawking... seems to like making ridiculous ideas sound plausible to increase his fame/controversy

    He`s an attention whore. Same reason he still uses a voice synthesizer than sounds like 1984 MacinTalk when there are realistic human-identical ones now - because this way, everyone knows its HIM.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    April 28, 2010 at 8:24 am
    You guys should read Tau Zero by Poul Anderson. It`s a great bit of scifi, about the problems of STL travel. Quite bleak and saddening at points, but very powerful.
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    Peveo4589 Male 18-29
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    April 28, 2010 at 12:19 pm
    sounds like Stephen Hawking has been watching Signs too much.
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    bigbangbilly Male 13-17
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    April 28, 2010 at 1:09 pm
    Finding aliens doesn`t mean finding good ones.
    Just think of finding your own neighbor is a bully instead of a friend

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