Polish President Killed in Plane Crash in Russia

Submitted by: trp712 7 years ago in
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/11/world/europe/11poland.html?ref=global-home

Polish President Kaczynski and dozens of other leaders die in plane crash in Russia.
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Male 4,593
Now I`m hungry for a Polish sausage.
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Female 168
I`m with irwinmcmath. My knowledge of Polish-Russian politics is absolute zero, but if this happened in the US I would definitely question the "accidental" nature of this. Especially since it says that control told them not to land, but they did anyway (with no mention of what the pilots had to say about it while it was happening...hmmm)
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Male 871
U think the Russkies are gettin ready to invade Poland by bumping off its Pres and all the military leaders?!
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Male 4,012
Found my answers:
BBC news discussion
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Male 4,012
Right, `awesome` may have been inappropriate.

However, in my defense I do not know the dude personally and I treat his death just like any death of people who has little direct impact on me: sad, but life goes on.

I am however curious on the effect of this on the Polish people and their economy, especially since I know a couple of Poles. I`m more interested in the effect of the death rather than the death itself. Let the Poles grief; I am a mere outsider.
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Male 32
Who the drat thought it was a good idea to put them all on one plane... Murphy`s law takes over when you do poo like that.
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Female 376
When my sister found out about this, she cried. I couldn`t. I mean...it is a very big loss to my country and I DO feel bad. We have lost most of our important leaders but unfortunately bad things happen every day;(. I just really hope my country will go through this. R.I.P Lech Kaczynski and many others that have died in this tragedy.[*]
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Male 195
Poles dead in Russia. Great. Should we just start the draft now?
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Male 2,238
[quote]The plane was called Warsaw LOL
Wut are the odds[/quote]
It was? I think that`s just the place where the article is coming from, dude.
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Male 985
The plane was called Warsaw LOL
Wut are the odds
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Male 716
I love how so many people died, and a majority of the people commenting are going "ah, awesome". `This gives me a chance to talk about Polish politics. We`re so lucky these people got killed. We want to see what`ll happen.`
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Male 2,238
[quote]He is after all, from my knowledge a mere figurehead, and his accidental death I think wouldn`t have any significant impact on the politics of Poland.[/quote]
Perhaps not the politics (which I know nothing about), but it could very well affect the people. Everyone likes to have someone to follow.

Or maybe i`ve just been reading too much 1984...
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Male 4,012
Hey Red Baal! Missed ya too... I`ve been on for weeks, but only been posting boring comments like `he`s hot`, or `awesomesauce`. Hehe. Not in the mood for arguments, though if there`s any discussion on China`s economy, I`m all in; I`ve got an exam coming up discussing their issues.

Yeah, I`m just curious what kind of impact this has, if any, on the huge migrant Polish population in Ireland. Likely none.
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Male 4,546
I think here is clearly an opportunity for Russia to mend ties.

Come out with a statement accepting past failures and basically vocally NOT being part of the political process in Poland for a little while.
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Male 4,546
Sorry Pabasa, I don`t actually know enough about Polish politics to be any use to you, just wanted to say welcome back to the site, not seen you in months.
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Male 265
Reguardless of whether Russia is impicated or not, this is an opportunity for Russia to meddle in the rebuilding of Poland`s government and get a pro-russian leaning people into the leadership vacuume.
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Male 4,012
Ah awesome, I`ve been looking for a place to discuss this.

I was wondering what kind of impact that the president`s death would have on Poland (minus the conspiracy theories that Russia did it). He is after all, from my knowledge a mere figurehead, and his accidental death I think wouldn`t have any significant impact on the politics of Poland. This thought discounts the facts that there are other significant Polish on board the plane.

Anyone else wanna weigh in on this? Thanks!
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Male 14
This is an interesting story...not to get all conspiracy theory on this, but I think it could have been an inside job. The President of a country and high government officials all on a plane that crashes sends up red flags.
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Female 2,352
Pretty tragic. They really should have had multiple planes. .
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Female 92
This seems like it is going to turn really bad.
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Male 13,630
keith2 - you ought too, world wars are started by such things
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Male 25,416
why is that on here?
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Male 2,796
Tragic end to a good man. He was a genious. Poland is awesome btw, people should take a trip there sometime.
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Male 591
This is a horrible tragedy. This is also why you never put every political and military leader of a nation on the same plane at the same time.
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Male 2,591
cares?
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Male 1,442
A tragic irony... This is going to cause more problems for Russia, partly because of people like Cleat_us thinking up conspiracy theories and partly because this was ment to repair relations.
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Male 17,511
Vladimir Putin has said he`ll take charge of the investigation. Wonderful Russia, Put a guy in charge of it that has been a top KGB agent and foe of Poland for decades. :Facepalm:
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Male 13,630
sonikku - Shame on you, not all leaders are bad
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Male 13,630
This is a tragic accident, no odd stuff here, hope Poland can pull through this
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Male 40,734
[quote]if it was an accident why would this cause problems?[/quote]
BEcause Russia (USSR or not) has a long history of being really BAD to the people of Poland. Just the association of this disaster with Russia will further reinforce those bitter memories.
I somehow doubt Russia was behind this, although they have done plenty of rotten things to their neighbors (poisoning the leader of Ukrain comes to mind).
A sad event all around.
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Male 438
for realz? wow... that sucks.
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Male 715
"does anyone suspect the russians? I mean this is something they would do after all to remove people from power. "

Yep, the Russians are known to place naturally occurring thick fog near runways and grow their trees extra tall so that they snag airplanes. Damn Russians!
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Male 4,745
Man, that`s terrible.
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Male 4,807
Crappy
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Male 57
does anyone suspect the russians? I mean this is something they would do after all to remove people from power.
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Female 856
Don`t put all your eggs in one basket
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Male 9,305
"The president’s death on Russian soil is bound to open old wounds in the relationship between Russia and Poland."

But...if it was an accident why would this cause problems?
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Male 15,510
I saw my friends in Poland posting this on their Facebooks, what a mess!
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Male 89
@Ant0n:
Oh.. Damn! That ruined my day:]
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Female 346
It`s terrible that they had to crash when they were trying to repair relations with Russia regarding things that happened 70 years ago. I don`t think this is going to help that situation at all. :(
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Male 893
I`m 100% Polish and I was born in Poland. I sent this to my mom.
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Male 761
@Retaw

No, this is a wrong site to "forget about misery in this world"
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Male 3,255
We shoulda seen this coming, what with the trouble that pilot always had with light bulbs...
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Male 351
@sonikku: Except not all politicians are bad. Nor are most army officials murderers.
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Male 350
well, at least most of them were politicians and high ranked army officials, i.e. thiefs and murderers. good for them. I`m sorry for the rest of the passengers.
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Male 351
@MrTwidget: That was a much larger plane at much higher speeds carrying lots more jet fuel. It also impacted a concrete building and not trees.
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Male 89
@Ant0n:
You`re telling me that it`s not a good site to look for amusement?
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Male 795
@shaboinkin
I don`t mean to bring up the past, and I feel for the lives lost here, but I guess every time I see plane crash pictures, it`s clear that a plane has crashed. (unlike my previous reference)
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Male 970
@anton: second that
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Male 761
@Retaw

Wrong site, bro
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Male 456
@MrTwidget
Depends on how fast the plane is going. They said they were landing, so I`m assuming it was going around 200mph or less

Although I can`t say how fast the pentagon plane was going

And why would you bring 9/11 crap up? Really now...
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Male 89
People die everyday. I don`t know how is that amusing(since all post on this site should be). And don`t give me "you`re impertinent/ soulless/ unsensitive/ non-nice individual" crap. I`m visiting this site to forget about misery in this world, not to be reminded of it.
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Female 1,593
Terrible :(
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Male 795
Wait, there are plane pieces left after a plane crash? I thought they immediately disintegrated like the one at the Pentagon? Go figure!?
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Male 2,238
Link: Polish President Killed in Plane Crash in Russia [Rate Link] - Polish President Kaczynski and dozens of other leaders die in plane crash in Russia.
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