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Male 1,610
You`re right Baal, I just found a quote from him shortly after the attack saying it was done in retribution for civilian casualties in Lebanon and Palestine. At the same time Osama believes that our entire way of life is something to be opposed, attacked, and replaced. That view has a strong religious basis and seems to be evolving to become a central concept for radical islamics who direct their aggression towards the US.

I was seeing more red than reason in your argument that people are not aware of how political his motivation was because lately there have been a lot of videos being censored simply for being critical of Islam. I get the same impression from most muslims that I get from most christians; that there is a need to rationalize anything negative about their religion or deny any valid connection between their religion and a negative event. I let that bleed into this discussion and for that I apologize.
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Male 3,631
@ Pandabear21

A religion of Peace "Commanded" to Terrorize!

Who`da thunk it?
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Male 4,546
Sorry, finally Brass:

"Don`t treat radicals passively"

Who. The. drat. Has been arguing for treating radicals passively? (Other than Crakr, who suggests no violence should ever occur unless under the banner of the USA in which case yay, it must be justified, but otherwise could never be, even in self defense).

Take Egypt as an example and their actions against the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood offshoot groups. Executions, mass imprisonments, etc.

Terrorism is something the Middle East has been dealing with LONG before the US started pointing fingers. Dealing with, and doing so more effectively than the Americans have, more harshly than the Americans have, and generally, prior to 9/11 with much condemnation by the rest of the world for "strong arm tactics".

The difference is, the Middle East knows more clearly who they should be pointing guns at.
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Male 4,546
Brassbull:
4) "The theme of radical Islam..."

Bwhahahahaha. Theme.

In Iraq alone, there were at least 11 groups fighting the US. Most considered radical Islamist, with themes ranging from religious (Invading Muslim lands bad), to political (invading Arab lands bad), to personal (dead family members, dead friends), to personal political religious (Muqtada al-Sadr) who gets his support NOT from the collective of religious people (who tend to lean towards Ali Sistani, a "competitor" of sorts) but from the politically motivated, anti-occupation groups.

Theme is an extreme overstatement.
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Male 4,546
drat it Crakr. Just drat it.
America has killed everyone ever.
Also, Nazis. They`re also trying to bring about a Cthulic Armageddon.

Do I win whatever game you`re playing? You`re continuously restating lies without even defending them at this stage.

I`m not going to just repeat old posts of mine, to respond to repeats of yours, I have already dealt with fairly thoroughly. You will find references, links, stats, evidence, and personal experience.

New points raised:
"Lots of countries spend a lot on their military"
1) Developing nations building a military.
2) 41% of Military Expenditure worldwide, is you. (25% of world GDP is you).
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Male 4,546
Brassbull, your statements about Osama only makes sense with a completely revised sequence of events.

You are suggesting that the sequence of events are:
9/11.
Silence for 3 years.
Statement of goals.

The sequence of events were:
Years of stating goals (which you are now saying don`t count, fine).
9/11.
US DECLARATION OF WAR PRIOR TO KNOWING THE CULPRITS.
STATEMENT OF DENIAL FROM THE TALIBAN.
DECLARATION OF WAR ON TALIBAN IF THEY DON`T GIVE UP OSAMA.
DECLARATION OF INNOCENCE BY OSAMA.
American Invasion.
Running and hiding with Dialysis machine strapped to his back.
Etc etc etc.

Where in that sequence does "announce your demands" come in? They were trying for 2 years to distance themselves from the event to prevent invasion, capture, etc.

Do you agree at least that there is no place in the above sequence for "We didn`t do it, but we`ll do it again unless..."
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Male 628
I could also say that
everything i need to know about Christianity i learnt from the last about 100 years of KKK activity.

But im not that STUPID
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Male 1,610
Neglecting to give a fresh announcements of intent paints Osama as an inept statesmen, who was sloppy and neglectful in planning the attacks, and we all know this is not the case.

Again, the video Tjspot linked clearly shows a group of radical muslims, spread across the globe but with the same purpose and goal, which is to erradicate all religions that are not Islam and replace all governments not subject to Sharia law. They do not see a problem with lying and deceiving to acquire this goal so all material from them must be treated with extreme suspicion.

Even in the unlikely event that this was not true, I don`t think anyone can afford to take that chance and treat the radicals passively.
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Male 1,610
[quote]"what took Osama 3 years to come out with this message?" 3 Years from which point? He has been saying it from 1990, the year after troops were there.[/quote]

First off, thanks for taking the time so answer.

I refuse to believe that with all the planning and preparation that went into the 9/11 attacks that Osama wouldn`t give an explanation, even if he had done this on previous occassions, because

1) If one has a political goal it must be constantly re-stated in order to be achieved.

2) Considering the seriousness and scale of the attacks demanded one, to not give one would be insulting and counter-productive to the cause.

3)sending this message would prevent the US government, or the american public for that matter, to make up their own reason which would do nothing to further the cause.

4) The theme of radical Islam is to impose their religion, law, and culture on the rest of the world.

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Male 2,737
BRAAAAAVO! I want that for my truck!
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Male 17,512
Yes, We have a well funded military as do most nations. So what ?

There have been `phenomenal` numbers of deaths due to war worldwide. It pales in comparison to the genocides that have taken place in the name of nazism, communism, and islam.

America doesn`t just enter wars for the hell of it, We resisted joining in WW1, We didn`t enter WW2 until we were attacked, We assisted democratic allies during the cold war. We bring aid and relief to refugees around the world. Even though Saddam was a sick son-of-a-bitch, We didn`t remove him during the first gulf war. It was only after we were attacked on 9/11 did America take out Saddam and remove the Taliban from power.

"We love death and they love life, That is why we will win." - Osama Bin Laden
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Male 4,546
Still Brass (Sorry for the avalanche of posts):

So basically, it can be very complex.

Assuming certain factors, you can create scenarios where one, some or all go to heaven, or hell, based on information we do not have.

However, I slightly sidestepped your actual point I think.

If it is political, could they still go to heaven? Potentially, yes.

Everyone:
You may also want to revise the use of the word Jihad.

Everything from Gandhi to the women`s liberation movement is termed a "Jihad" in modern Arabic.

You`ll find a fairly solid translation is simply "Struggle". It can be personal, internal (struggle to be a better person), all the way up to outright holy war in defense of Muslims.

Crakr:
Self defence reference: [2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.
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Male 4,546
Finally Brass again:

You do have one question which is... complex.

Do Terrorists go to heaven?

As a Muslim, I technically can`t answer that. I personally am not allowed to say to someone, or about someone that they are going to hell. Ever.

Furthermore, I don`t technically know. Personally, I want them to go to Hell. However, Islam isn`t a belief OR an acts system. It includes an aspect of intention.

It could be argued that they go to heaven on some intention, however it is also true that ignoring the rules of war purposely would probably negate that.

I don`t know if they were (as some terrorists are) kidnapped and brainwashed from a young age, being fed selected passages, purposely being kept from the rules of war.

I DO know that at least one of the hijackers was supposedly mentally handicapped, and people who don`t have the capacity to make decisions aren`t punished for them.
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Male 4,546
Crakr still:
"America is not a bloodthirsty nation, Despite what it`s critics say."

You are:
The largest (best funded) military.
Have a phenomenal number of deaths attributed to you.
Are one of the strongest supporters of your military.
Have entered more wars than almost anyone else.

YET, I agree with you. You know, from experience, how people view your country from the inside. The stats, are technically all against you. You lose on hundreds of possible metrics by which bloodthirst could reasonably be measured.

What you don`t understand, is that our facts are better, even after twisting and weasel wording, and somehow you point to them and call us bloodthirsty based on that.

"We are not bloodthirsty" - Fine.
"You are bloodthirsty" - STILL Fine.
"You are, and we`re not" - Somewhere along the line, you`ve got a double standard.
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Male 4,546
Crakr:
"Why are there rules of war"
Because we are allowed to defend ourselves.

You cannot state that America is not bloodthirsty, and defend every act they put forward with justifications, if you as a Christian, do not believe you should be fighting any wars, ever, under any circumstances, be they in offense, or defense of yourself or others.

Self defense is explicitly stated in the Quran, and elsewhere in the theology, as well as the limitations (Stop if they ask for peace, and cease attacking you. Don`t attack civilians. Don`t use poison. Don`t destroy crops and livestock. Etc.)

Furthermore:
1) Whilst I always maintain on this site that Christianity is generally peaceful, the context for your quote is not simply "Don`t fight".

"If someone tries to hit you, make him use his holy hand. He won`t, because he won`t do something sinful with his holy hand, and it`ll teach him a lesson".
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Male 4,546
Sigh, I really don`t have time for this, suffice to say, mistakes:

Brass:
"Islam does not make a distinction between matters of religion and matters of state". Wrong. Our separation of Church and State is inbuilt, and different, not non existent.

"what took Osama 3 years to come out with this message?" 3 Years from which point? He has been saying it from 1990, the year after troops were there.

"Wouldn`t X make it a holy war". Sure, I guess, but then X always makes it a holy war, in which case you elevate many more wars to holy wars. Which is silly.

"Defending people of the same worldview" = "Holy war". You`re giving me a hell of a lot of ammo for Atheistic Holy wars here.
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Male 204
It is so sad that people equate entire cultures with a terrible blemish. I have never met a muslim who wasn`t a good person. Sure, they`re out there - but in my own travels I have only met very good people who happened to also be muslim. I have met some pretty nasty people too, and believe it or not... they come from all sorts of different backgrounds.
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Male 17,512
[quote]....Hitler was Catholic.[/quote]

Maria Schicklgruber was Adolph Hitler`s paternal grandmother, She was catholic. But Alois, His father was considered `illegitimate` and it`s possible that Adolph`s Grandfather was Jewish.
It`s not definitive.

The Story:

Maria was working as a household cook in the town of Graz. Her employers were a Jewish family named Frankenberger, who had a 19-year-old son. The son was Alois`s father and Hitler`s grandfather.

There is no proof of this coupling however.
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Male 17,512
[quote]Everyone who believes in God is stupid.[/quote]

You young sir, Have a lot to learn yet. Belief in God is empowering and uplifting.

[quote]..bearded wizard..[/quote]

Really ? Like Dumbledore ? Just because there a few renaissance paintings depicting him like that doesn`t mean that is how he looks. In fact, The bible says the light from him is so bright that we could not look upon him with our eyes.

Please loose your ignorance and prejudice about religious people, Ok?
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Male 80
@Suicism - have you actually read the Qu`ran? Do you know anything about what Islam teaches? If you`re honestly curious, I`ve got a Qu`ran sitting on my shelf, I can give you some verses. Oh but wait, someone already did that and it didn`t help at all, big surprise.

And you do realize that Islam is made up of Muslims, correct? It`s a lot like the debate surrounding the God bumper sticker.



And umm, Nazis are in league with Islam huh? Last time I checked, Hitler was Catholic.
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Male 658
Everyone who believes in God is stupid.

"God" means Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah, or any other form of giant bearded wizard.

Don`t deny that that is how most religious people view God.
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Female 4,028
What an ignorant fool.
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Male 1,610
Lastly, what took Osama 3 years to come out with this message? If the act was political, and they have demands, typically someone would want to make them directly following the terrorist act, especially if you`re going to do it in the most horrific way possible. Melting people and then collapsing two buildings on top of them is not something you keep people guessing about.

Oh, and I didn`t see the words Palestine or american foreign policy anywhere in the transcript of the videos first released following the 9/11 attacks between Osama, his lieutenants and the unidentified shaykh.
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Male 17,512
Baalthazaq:

Another thing, Why does the `Religion of peace` even have such a thing as `Rules of war` in it`s holy book ?

Jesus never preached about war, In fact he was a pacifist, `Turn the other cheek`.
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Male 1,610
Baalthazaq

If it is a political rebelion against american foreign policy and the desired expulsion of the Isreali government, then wouldn`t the suicide bombers be denied access into heaven because it would then not be Jihad?

If, considering they were acting on the behalf of other muslims and as such their actions are deemed holy, wouldn`t they still deem 9/11 as a holy cause and do it in the name of Allah?

What about the bombings after 9/11 in Madrid, London, and Belsan?

As shown in the video Tjspot posted a link to (great video btw), the consistent ideology of these radical groups is to carry out Jihad on all non-muslim nations so how can you expect everyone to neglect this and rely on the statements of a terrorist who orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. As the video also shows, these people see no harm in using any deceptive means necessary.

Islam does not make a distinction between matters of religion and matters of state, so why should
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Male 342
Yep, those Muzzies are SO rational

More Rational Muzzies
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Male 4,546
(But yes, I agree that there are radical Islamists, but I really don`t think you have any idea of how political it is.

It`s the same reason most Americans know Muslims don`t eat pork. It`s "weird" and "different". Nobody discusses how we don`t eat: Dog, Snake, Crocodile, etc.

Similarly, when you have people at odds, you look at what makes them different. You come up with utterly retarded answers to questions "Why do they hate us? They hate us for our freedom."

Never, ever stopping to ask:
Who the drat are "they"?
Do they actually hate us?
Why do they really hate us?

You even have imbeciles like crakr, repeatedly announcing what the majority think. "Vast Majority" according to him, announcing views that are disputed by every major poll ever conducted, and despite the fact that he has one right in front of him, who has traveled the middle east, and met thousands worldwide, contradicting him
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Male 4,546
Basically.

What do you want to call a radical? Someone who answers what, to what question?

Then you ask the same question to a control group.

Obviously, you sanitize it. The KKK is going to give a different answer to a Kenyan militia to the question "Is lynching Negroes ok?". "Lynching people" would be different and fair(er).

On the case of torture, civilian targeting, racial profiling, and so on and so forth, the Muslim world is not more radical, than the USA, or Europe.

However, the UK could say, in quadruple numbers to the middle east, that terrorism(though maybe not that wording anymore saying as it has been sensationalized) is justifiable.

They wouldn`t be divided into radicals and moderates.

If you look at the Middle east in isolation, sure, it sucks. Does anywhere else fare particularly better? No.
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Male 4,546
Tjspot:

Partially, however you are mistaken in part. There are people who justify 9/11, who specifically still state that it is un-Islamic.

A Christian similarly might know that punching a guy for squeezing your wife`s butt is "unChristian" but not "unjustified".

You have to decide what you`re calling a radical. Then, uncomfortably, compare it.

What do Americans think of torture? 71% think it is "sometimes justified" or more.

Targetting Civilians? Ok, according to the UK. 23% of Americans agree. 20% of Muslims.

I just don`t think you understand how disgusting your world is yet.
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Male 29
PS: I didnt say drat. It corrected it. I said the F word. there. correct that..
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Male 29
drat that :\
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Male 342
You guys are always picking on Catholics just because a little kid gets touched every once in a while, and Muslims are out here blowin` up buildings and killing people and nobody says a word. Those nutty muzzies (muzzies is the new slang term for muslims that I just made up, I sure hope it catches on, ALLAH AKBAR!!)
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Male 1,231
This doesn`t surprise me; the ignorant are everywhere; we have people who share ideologies similar to this here in the UK. Bottom line; bad people do bad things. You can`t judge an entire group of people on the behaviour of one member. Religion isn`t the no 1 cause; the mis-interpretation of religeon is. It is erroneous translations of texts, and, basically a massive intergenerational game of chinease whispers which cause religeons to go down the wrong path. Well, sort of, I mean, Catholic priests didn`t mis- interprete the bible when they raped and abused children, they were just bastards, which comes back around to the `bad people do bad things` theory i have.
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Male 55
The fact that he cut a hole in the big sticker to make sure the Ford logo is still visible gives him extra redneck points.
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Male 1,354
In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli`s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every muslim who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy`s ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once
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Male 2
Baalthazag: your comments lead me to believe you are either of the Muslim faith, or from Muslim heritage. While I understand your defense of a faith based on kindness and purity, perhaps the misconception is that events such as 9/11 are that of RADICAL Islam, not Islam. Many are unaware of the differences between the two and unfortunately often are not informed of the difference. I would encourage you, and all others, to view a video on youtube called The Third Jihad. There are multiple sections adding up to about 30 minutes and discusses this difference as well as some of the developments regarding radical islam.

It is everyone`s responsibility to become educated and informed while maintaining a clear head and open mind, but perhaps Muslims can help to make this difference clearer. Is that at least a fair assessment?
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Male 1,360
everything I needed to know about Virginia I learned thanks to you!
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Male 17,512
Christians haven`t had a `Jihad` or Holy War since the Crusades. Just because a country, That has Christians in it, Goes to war does not make it a `Christian war`.

Communist Atheists however, Have attempted to purge all kinds of religions from within their borders (Both China & Russia). So for sake of argument that would be a `Religion` based war. Btw, Chechnya is still battling Russia over religious ideology.

How many muslim `Jihads` have been declared since Israel took root in Palestine ? I`m not sure, But I`d bet it`s a large number.
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Male 17,512
My opinion "Hate Period" ranks higher than either.

It is hatred that fueled 9/11, Hatred that killed 6 million Jews in WW2 death camps, Hatred that fuels antisemitism and by association anti-Americanism. I have seen pictures of many American troops smiling with Iraqi and Afghani kids, Helping their families, Playing soccer with them and generally winning hearts and minds.

America does not hate the Iraqi, Iranian, Afghan, or Arab peoples. But we can not stand the hate filled ideology of the extremists there. We tried to stand with the Iranians in their bid to overthrow a rigged election there. We would love to see the Palestinians lay down their arms and accept peace.

America is not a bloodthirsty nation, Despite what it`s critics say.

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Male 4,546
"Whoa, maybe we acquired some Nazi scie.... but so did"

Aha! So again, you are suggesting that Islam gets bumped above (I would assume from your perspective) Christianity due to the deaths in WWI which you are placing in the hands of Muslims?

Now, who do we know who might also have been in EUROPE`S largest war, and whose largest battles took place between Christian Majority countries, and Secular states?

The tertiary role of the Ottomans? Seriously? This is seriously the argument you`re making here? Like honestly? Like this isn`t some type of practical joke, you genuinely believe the words coming out of your mou... fingers?

Wow... just wow.
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Male 4,546
Let me put this another way, if we say the metric is motivation.

Which do you think ranks higher: "Hatred of a religious group", or "Being a member of a religious group" that has caused more deaths?

The problem with you, Lazy, is that you see a statement like "Muslims in Al Qaeda hate Jews" and come to the conclusion that the problem is "Muslims", not "Hating Jews" which you personally do, alongside "Hating Muslims" "Hating Christians" and every other religious group.

Then when I try to say that might be a problem, you can`t understand why. This is one of the many problems with the USSR and the massive deathtolls.

That is also why I will happily argue against the Anti-thiests such as yourself on this site. You are a part of the problem, the exact same problem that Al-Qaeda has, the same problems Nazis had.

You are more like them, than most of us will ever be.
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Male 17,512
[quote]NASA is basically Nazism too.[/quote]

Whoa hold it right there, Maybe we did acquire German scientists after WW2, But so did Russia, England, And France. That in no way makes Nasa = Nazis. The scientists, Like Von Braun, Were running for their lives because Hitler wanted them shot before they could fall into enemy hands. You might as well be accusing Einstein of being a Nazi too, That`s how ridiculous your claim is.

Your claim that I must be seeing Nazis everywhere is equally ridiculous.

Also, I clearly stated that not all muslims have a radical antisemitism ideology.

You`re also assuming I`m making assumptions that have no evidence. Since you know so much about The Grand Mufti, Please tell me what you know.
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Male 4,546
Lazy:

Reread the thread. Count the supporters for either side of the argument. Let alone the actual facts of the matter.

I`m happy to let anyone reading the thread come to their own conclusions based on the evidence as opposed to prejudices.

However, feel free to actually contribute at any point.
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Male 10,440
[quote] Islam ranks 3rd for death toll behind Christianity, and Atheism. The USSR wins. 62 million. [/quote]

It seems my friends have already shown that this is bullsh*t. Thanks IAB!

[quote] ...I am saying that your argument (posted originally by lazy) is poo, and useful only for big dick competitions. [/quote]

Its rather obvious that the attacks were motivated by religion, albeit an extremist minority. If you don`t have the dick to admit when you`re wrong, then how can we take you seriously?
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Male 4,546
Are you suggesting Crakr, that the actions of one person from nation X, does not give a full rundown of the opinions of Religion Y?

Interesting. You know what, how about, saying as you hold that opinion, you have an argument with yourself rather than me?

You`re clearly offended that anyone would be so stupid as to make that assumption, provided that someone is not you.
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Male 4,546
Sigh.

Ok, Crakr, but little do you know, NASA is basically Nazism too. (Every major achievement you have comes from Nazi scientists working on the Amerika Bomber, look it up).

Now the sensible thing to do would be to suggest that just because I can come up with some tenuous link between two things means nothing towards the overall methodology and causes.

However, taking the Crakr approach: Everything, ever, about everything you think, do, or say, is because of Nazi influence. Obviously.

Good to see Godwin`s law is alive and well.

Still waiting on that apology by the way. Feel free to give it any time.
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Male 17,512
Baalthazaq: What does one ex-gf have to do with this conversation ?

I`ve provided more than enough evidence for the links between each cause and effect. TGM was spreading his antisemitism before WW2 ended, Before any British `promises` were broken. Israel is the Jews homeland, They were there first and there is more than enough archaeological evidence to prove it. I`m sorry if that pissed off a lot of Palestinians, It happened before I was born. The fact is that they are there now and have fought off several attempts by their muslim neighbors to crush them. They aren`t going away. My wish is that Palestinians and Israel`s neighbors would realize that, accept it, and learn to live in peace.
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Male 17,512
...little do most of them know their hatred comes straight from the Nazis.
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Male 17,512
It`s possible I didn`t hear any `apologies` over the noise of the majority of their citizens that were dancing in the streets, Burning American flags, and chanting `Allah Akbar`.

Sort of like the Japanese Ambassador saying "So Sorry" to America right after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, They rang quite hollow.

Most muslims in the middle east want a worldwide islamic state, For several reasons, and are trying to spread sharia law. America has been getting in the way of that goal.

Yes, I`ve heard the `infidel` reasoning before. The belief that they hate us because we have military bases there. Bin Laden did mention this in his tapes, But his main reason was in retaliation for Bill Clinton`s `Wag the Dog` Tomahawk missile attacks on Al-Qaeda bases in Afghanistan (During the Monica Lewinsky Scandal).

Over riding it all though is our support of Israel. `Zionism` is equated with `Nazism` over in Palestine, But little do most of them know their hat
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Male 4,546
Let me put it another way, a way your totally disjointed method of argumentation might understand.

My ex girlfriend was a Palestinian, so was her brother. She slept around with at least two people, and her friend was a bit of a floozy too. She spread her legs all over Dubai, Palestine, the UK, the US and Canada. She`s connected to Craigslist, Facebook, and even tried selling used underwear on Ebay amongst others. I still occasionally get facebook friend requests from people who have banged or are currently banging her to this day.

Now. What does this tell you about this once Christian, currently Atheist girl?

Notice I have provided, in an identical sentence structure to yours, every link you have provided to Islam, with an entirely non Islamic figure.

That is because the link, is built entirely out of your desire for it to be there.

I ask again, demonstrate a link, don`t assume it.
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Male 4,546
"What lie?"

1) Suggesting Muslims didn`t apologise, when they did. That is *THE* lie I was referring to. However, we can add.
2) Suggesting "the Majority" think the opposite of what they actually think. (Largest studies done demonstrate this).
3) Suggesting the cause, I have already, sufficiently rebutted.

This is all long before we even begin to talk about the sense of scale, the fact that you ignored that Muslims kicked 8 shades of poo out of Al Qaeda in the Mid East which is half the reason they hiding in caves outside of it.

Not to mention further, your tenuous links are at best exaggerated and at worst fictional.

TGF`s role in forming any of the organizations you virtually attribute solely to him, have no mention of him as making any major contribution.

Furthermore, are you aware that "Palestinian" is not synonymous with Muslim?
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Male 17,512
[quote]Also, not incidentally, you have completely dropped your earlier outright lie, which I had to correct on your behalf.[/quote]

What lie ?

I`ve shown you how Nazism and radical islam are linked, The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was palestinian, So was his nephew Yasser Arafat. Al Huseinni fled to Cairo and evaded the Nuremburg trials, He was an unindicted co-conspirator with Hitler. He spread his antisemitism all over Persia, Arabia, Serbia, Croatia, Turkey, And Northern Africa. He`s connected with the Baath party that Saddam Hussein rose to power in. Al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas and others were all spawned because of him. And his followers followers continue to kill Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Buddhists, Hindus and others still to this day. That is why I disagree with that earlier ranking, I believe it`s inaccurate.

Having said that, Not all Muslims agree with that thinking. But a vast majority in the middle east do and that`s of very real concern.
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Male 661
I`m so glad I`m Canadian
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Male 4,546
Crakr:
Also, not incidentally, you have completely dropped your earlier outright lie, which I had to correct on your behalf.

Where is YOUR apology?

Patticakes:
Are you suggesting that, say, Utah, or American Samoa has similar imperialist tendencies? "You just have to look at their birthrates".

Trailer parks all over the states are waiting to rise up as part of some coordinated plan?

Look, go outside occasionally, we are not the goddamn Borg. If you could see us as more than comic book villains, you could easily see the truth beyond the lies.

As it stands, you clearly cannot distinguish between the two. It is extremely saddening.
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Male 4,546
Crakr:

There`s a lot of bull on the web, what is amazing to me, is you haven`t actually found anything yet. Even lies.

I have no idea what argument you are making. I know about him, I know everything about him. How does it support your claim?

"This guy was a Nazi sympathizer" So?
"HE WAS ARAFATS UNCLE!!!!" So?

Anything else? Did he sell pistachio nuts to Che Guevara? Who gives a poo? What relevance or connections do your sentences have to your other sentences?

The only thing I can see is "He was Muslim, therefore Muslims take the blame for X". If you want to try that, fine, but I think you`ll find that unless you`re willing to truly push the boundaries for "cause", you`ll end up lumping in a hell of a lot of other people before Islam.

Next you`ll it`ll be the "Red Green Brown" alliance of Nazis Commies and Muslims. I`ll continue to talk about the "Tin foil" alliance.
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Female 465
I don`t know why no one talks about Islamic imperialism. After all, they are totally open about their intentions. And if you had any doubts, just look at their birth rate. They have figured out that a birth-rate-invasion is so much more effective in Western politically correct societies than military invasion. But, that`s OK: here`s a hole in the sand, just put your head in there and go back to sleep.
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Female 465
Thanks for that link, Crakrjak. I hadn`t seen that one before.
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Female 465
I don`t know why no one talks about Islamic imperialism. After all, they are totally open about their intentions. And if you had any doubts, just look at their birth rate. They have figured out that a birth-rate-invasion is so much more effective in Western politically correct societies than military invasion. But, that`s OK: here`s a hole in the sand, just put your head in there and go back to sleep.
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Male 17,512
Baalthazaq: The Grand Mufti & Hitler
The Father of Jihad

Btw, This was Yasser Arafat`s Uncle.

If you need more information let me know, There is a lot of it on the web.
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Male 265
"Hundreds of thousands, or even millions. And you have dangerous personality cults forming around Sarah Palin..."

Unlike the fanatical cult of personality that formed around Obama?
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Male 4,546
More detail on your point 3)

3a) "If I`m reading you right and you`re suggesting atheism is indirectly responsible"

You are not reading me right at all. I am arguing that in both cases, the grouping of the perpetrators does not demonstrate causality.

3b) "Due to a neglect of instilling moral values"

No. I assumed your argument was "Atheism is always exempt from X because set(values) does not contain X"

The implication is set(Isl.Values) CONTAINS X; If said to demonstrate false analogy. If not said to demonstrate false analogy, see point 3c.

My counter was "Islam can be said to be more exempt from X because set(values) is explicitly NOT.X"

3c) "assigns blame unfairly and inaccurately."
Correct. The argument assigns blame unfairly and inaccurately. It is therefore bad, irrespective of who it is being applied to. That is what I intended to show.
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Brass:

1) I wasn`t trying to be funny, so maybe parody was the wrong word. However, you can read English. I`d imagine my restating the same point 3 times was sufficient irrespective of your sense of humor.

2 and 3) My argument, was a copy, of a previous argument.

If you are arguing that my analogy does not hold, you argue that there is a difference between the two.

In the original, one event, 9/11 was a target (via the picture). I chose another event as my parallel.

Nobody included any other events. I did not include any other events (I even reposted to remove peripheral events related to the first).

My analogy, like the original, takes an event, draws a conclusion without taking true motivation into consideration, only the actions of a group.

If you want to retroactively reword the original argument, you can, but then what the hell are we discussing that you think I disagree with?
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Male 4,546
Bosanac:

Your statement is only half true. I wouldn`t even say the majority of Arabs hate America. (Though when asked, a majority of Arabs stated they felt America was a greater force for harm than good in the Middle East).

It is however telling that the Stereotype Muslim is an Arab, and the actual majority of Muslims are not Arab. (325 Million Arabs, 1.2 Billion Muslims. They *cannot* be a majority).

It does worry me however, that various groups, are now disassociating with Arabs as opposed to Islam. This is not an improvement. "It`s not Muslims, it`s Arabs".

Whilst I actually (even as an Arab) agree with that statement to an extent, it too misses out on the big picture a lot of the time.

It is an oversimplified answer to a complex question, and many would do better to spend time to get the bigger picture.

(I know you weren`t doing this exactly. Just making conversation.)
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Male 1,610
Baalthazaq

1. No, I guess I don`t get your sense of humor, or maybe it just does not come through well in the forum because apparently I`m not the only one.

2. I`m saying the analogy doesn`t fit. Saying this, or saying Islam was the motivating factor behind numerous deaths, is not specifically pointing to 9/11 so dont make that conclusion for me.

3. Your third point, if I`m reading you right and you`re suggesting atheism is indirectly responsible due to a neglect of instilling moral values, assigns blame unfairly and inaccurately. Culture, as much as religion, instills values in a society and what moral system we have in America is a product of western culture and christian values. Atheists do teach morality but it would be a long jump to say the lack of a moral code in atheism itself results in deaths.

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Female 204
ugh, that deserves a facepalm
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Male 234
"Maybe not all Muslims are anti-American, But the vast majority are because of their religion."

omg, seriously? when will you people learn to differentiate culture from religion. Im muslim, im also caucasian, my home country is muslim, and all of my friends and family are muslim, none of them hate america. geez people learn the difference. dont give me that crap, "majority of muslims hate america coz of their religion".. no most muslim ARABS hate america because america is F-ing up their country.
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Male 234
"Right on my redneck brother. Islam is a violent, Godless cult. Muhammad burns in hell!"

i suggest that you learn some real history not from bullpoo muslim bashing websites, or your oh so awesome government
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Male 4,546
(Crakr: Feel free to post a link proving your claim, unless you also want to suggest that no-one in Germany was either Christian or Atheist through all of WWI and WWII.

You`re also, conveniently ignoring that the Palestinians fought against the Nazis, that`s actually the reason you have a conflict in Israel right now. The contradictory promises made by the British).
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Male 126
thats funny ive seen another one of these with islam replaced with obama. the obama one was kinda confusing this one however not so much
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Male 4,546
Suicism:
"How to deal with a Disbeliever", from the Quran. Chapter 109. "The Disbelievers".

That`s one, hell there`s a whole chapter. But you don`t want one. You want someone to post one, so that you can take another you have prepared.

Save me the trouble: When you post your quote, also post the verse after it. That`s pretty much what I`m going to end up doing to give it context.

Althought, there is one where the verse BEFORE gives the context. Meh, either way carry on with the inevitable unfolding of events. I`ll pretend it`s interesting.
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Male 185
Its idiots like this that make me ashamed of my fellow Americans. And the ones that point to Australia when asked where Iran is.
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Male 17,512
[quote">Islam ranks 3rd for death toll behind Christianity, and Atheism. The USSR wins. 62 million.[/quote">

You do know that Islam played a role in Nazism during WW2 right ? Al Husseini, The Grand Mufti
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Male 10
woah!! flame war goin on down der
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Male 4,546
Brass:

You didn`t read any of my three points then.

If you argue against my parody of Lazy`s argument, you clearly don`t realize it`s a parody.

If you are saying it to suggest the analogy doesn`t fit, you are then suggesting Islam is the motivating factor behind 9/11, in spite of all evidence I have provided to the contrary.

You also neglect my third point that whilst Atheism doesn`t have any pro-active teachings, it also doesn`t have any of the contrary teachings that Islam does. (Don`t do X/Y/Z).

As such you can make an argument that X has no basis in Atheism, I can make the argument that X is specifically contrary to our teachings, which I provided.

Basically, I`ve just repeated my last 3 points. I get it, you want to answer back, but either you don`t understand that I`m PURPOSELY REPEATING A BAD ARGUMENT TO SHOW IT IS BAD or you are arguing the original was good.
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Female 146
"I bet this guy drives like a total d***."
i see a mini confederate flag on the back window,
and he`s parked in a handicapped zone of course...
douchebag all around
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Male 1,610
Positive Correlation Between Bumper Stickers and Road Rage

I bet this guy drives like a total d***.
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Male 2,148
All I need to know about religious leaders I learned on 9/11.

Islam is the same as any other religion, it`s the leaders that order poo like this and cause all the problems.
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Male 9,305
"@Nido

lol. I feel sorry for you guys, honestly."

The pity is appreciated. (T.T)
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Male 16
I don`t understand. It`s his truck; why can`t he display his opinions? It seems everyone that doesn`t agree has to jump on it even though they probably have plain jane cars that don`t display any of their opinions. Why don`t they have flashy cars? They are afraid of everything everyone else will post on IAB and talk about. At least he can stand behind opinions.

Just sayin`.
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Male 3,631
What is it I`m missing, Panda? You`re just as invited to contribute - and yet all I see is irrefutable evidence of somebody in desperate need of taking their own advice.
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Female 301
confederate flag? really?
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Female 150
Suicism, If you`re going to tell someone they are wrong, know something about the subject you`re correcting them about.
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Male 215
I scrolled down to a wall of text. Woohoo.
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Male 3,631
FaLa620 that`s great, and I`ve met several friendly Muslims as well, but this truck didn`t say "Everything I ever needed to know about MUSLIMS I learned on 9/11", did it? So if you`re going to address the ACTUAL point of contention here, could you at least give me one peaceful passage from the Koran which concerns all Humankind, and not simply fellow believers?
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Male 80
I think religion is pretty stupid. But it really annoys me to see things like this. Most people who bash Islam know nothing about it, and have probably never met a Muslim in their life. Try living in an Islamic country and see if that alters your views any. I spent nearly a year living in an Islamic nation, living with families of Muslims, working alongside Muslims. Some of my best friends are Muslim. It could be more the differences in culture rather than the religion itself, but the Muslims I know are wonderful, loving, peaceful people, who live out their faith better than any Christian I`ve ever met. The guy who drives this truck is probably convinced that Obama is a Muslim too, but based on my experiences that would be an improvement.
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Male 3,755
That`s an Atypical redneck truck.
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Male 877
there is nothing to say about this really...as you can see it speaks volumes...to denounce it is pointless. I imagine this guy driving around where he lives thinking he`s making a statement of intelect...but this looks like the handywork of a child that got it`s arse slapped...it happened on sept 11 if im not mistaken, poor boy!...he`s the lowest common denomonator...
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Female 299
he doesnt have a handicap plate
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Male 216
so ignorant yet so accurate, scary indeed.
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Male 335
And all the whole world needs to know about the United States is that we dropped two nukes on civilians back in the day.
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Male 76
Everything I needed to know about Christianity I learned from the Crusades.
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Male 2,085
Right on my redneck brother. Islam is a violent, Godless cult. Muhammad burns in hell!
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Male 321
and he`s handicaped
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Male 285
they parked in a handicapped spot.
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Male 601
Also, soviet leaders were deified and sold themselves as gods on earth. That`s not Atheism.
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Male 601
"Islam ranks 3rd for death toll behind Christianity, and Atheism. The USSR wins. 62 million."

Never have I heard of someone killing in the name of Atheism. Yes, the USSR was an Atheist state but they did not use lack of belief in a god to justify anything. As it turns out, the soviets took control partly because of the support they received from the eastern orthodox church. Just sayin`...
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Male 1,610
RexJNibcore: You became a Taoist specifically to avoid having to refer to yourself as an atheist?
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Male 76
its a huge conspiracy, hitler hired a terrorist to fly into the wtc, and while us and iraq are fighting, he will slowly but surely move up the ranks of russia (hes learned his lesson)
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Female 70
I`m not Christian but I`m not exactly atheist either because every atheist I meet is always being a douchebag about other people`s religions.
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Male 1,610
Baalthazaq: All I am arguing is that atheism was never the underlying or overt motivation behind any war, terrorist attack, or mass killing and cannot be lumped in with Islam or Christianity.

[quote]Islam ranks 3rd for death toll behind Christianity, and Atheism. The USSR wins. 62 million.[/quote]

Whatever the instance or number of instances you are referring, I can assure you atheism was not the motivating factor.
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Female 1,743
People hate just because they can. "This picture pisses me off beyond recognition!!!!
Stupid inbred ignorant dumbdrat. Closedminded waste of matter."

Inbred.
You know, you`re just as bad as this idiot.
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Female 385
/me points RACIST!
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Male 4,546
Additionally, I`d advise getting that book I suggested earlier, then shoving the remainder of your misleading statements.

Feel free to explain: "Maybe not all Muslims are anti-American, But the vast majority are because of their religion."

The vast majority are not, and those that are, don`t do it because of their religion.
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Male 541
This picture pisses me off beyond recognition!!!!
Stupid inbred ignorant dumbdrat. Closedminded waste of matter.
The US started it!
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Male 914
what a douche
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Male 1,351
*Rolls eyes* I thought people stopped caring about idiots like this a long time ago. You wanna know what a real-life troll looks like, find this guy. Just don`t feed his shallow need to be noticed.
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Male 4,546
Crakr:

Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat offered his sympathy to Americans.
Afghanistan`s Taliban rulers condemned the attacks.
President Gen. Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan condemned the attacks.
Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi called the attacks "horrifying" and urged Muslim aid groups to offer help "regardless of political considerations or differences between America and the peoples of the world."
Syria`s government condemned the attacks.
Iranian President Mohammad Khatami expressed "deep regret and sympathy with the victims".

Source:FOX, the day after. Pay attention. It is not the world`s fault your reading comprehension is not up to scratch.

(Unless you want to argue the semantics of apology: In which case either we can`t, or have, depending on definition. Never "won`t").
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Male 5,194
Pretty cool, but a real Southerner never puts the second place prize on anything. That guy`s bound to be a yankee poser.
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Male 83
Haha, I laughed. Some people take these things a bit too serious.
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Male 82
Yeah, he`s way off base there.
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Male 17,512
You know what, Japan asked for and got forgiveness for Pearl Harbor. America did the same for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I have not heard one peep from an Arab or Persian nation asking for forgiveness for 9/11. In fact, They were dancing in the streets celebrating it as a victory over `The great satan` as khomeni deemed us.

Maybe not all Muslims are anti-American, But the vast majority are because of their religion. Don`t believe that "Religion of peace" crap, They can`t even be civil to one another (sunni vs. shia).
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Male 1,141
Wait, southern people are stereotypically ignorant and stupid?...bahahahahaha
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Male 495
Everything I ever needed to know about Virgina I learned from this truck.
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Female 547
Laugh all you want, scream "SHOPPED" from the top of your lungs if it makes you happy, but there ARE scumbags like this out there.
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Male 25,417
yay for photoshop!!!
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Male 46
Monday, April 19, 2010 9:19:06 AM
"IF I EVER SAW A PERSON WITH A VIRGINA PLATE AND THAT PICTURE I WOULD PROBABLY KILL HIM... (I am outraged.)"

sure, this guy`s an ignorant prick, but at least he isn`t willing to take a another human being`s life over a "bumper sticker."

yes, you are obviously a much kinder, more tolerant, and overall superior human being. B-|

besides, 9/11 was an inside job anyways, you can tell from the pixels... ;-)
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Male 683
Haha... so, this mofo is handicapped...
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Male 256
Fwoggie people from Virginia and Maryland may not seem southern geographically, but theyre part of that culture depending on where u go in the state
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Male 3,482
@Nido

lol. I feel sorry for you guys, honestly.
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Male 1,803
And I can`t believe it had a Virginia number plate. I thought the NE seaboard was full of intelligent lot and it was only the deep south that was stupid.
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Male 1,803
Someone actually paid to have that put on his truck. WTF. That`s dumb. They should have contacted BBC`s topgear, they`d have painted some inane borrocks like that for free.
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Male 58
@bigbangbilly
I wouldn`t run from any man who probably can`t find his penis.
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Male 4,546
Madduck:
Unfortunately IAB policy dictates I cannot disclose to much personal information. :P

Everyone else:
Just a second clarification, if you`re arguing with me because my *argument* is bad, kudos, but as I said, it isn`t supposed to indicate a true philosophical statement.

If you are arguing Lazy`s argument is actually good, please see my previous statements.

If you`re arguing the analogy I posted doesn`t hold, I would like to also submit that Al-Qaeda broke almost every rule of war we have. I don`t see how no statements with regard to any act trumps outright forbidding of the same acts.

As such, I`d argue when you make a special case for the USSR, you`re neglecting this.
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Male 262
Everything I need to know about Virginia I learned from this truck.
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Male 2,893
I CAN STAND BY THIS GUY!!!!!!
MUSLIMS SUCK!!!!!!
(kidding)
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Female 1,329
I don`t care what religion one is or what one believes in, but when it`s used as an excuse to start ANYTHING, then it`s unacceptable and downright irresponsible. Men, women, and children from ALL nations were murdered on September 11, 2001. Just remember this fact.
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Male 698
you might want to run form the guy who owns the cars
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Male 92
No, 9/11 was inside job. You know, they used those termite bombs I know nothing about, and all that physics and stuff, you know..
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Male 808
Wow Madduck-you are in heat eh??
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Male 383
*clears thought* I`m gonna have to interrupt this conversation just to say.. HOLY SHYT! I think I`ve seen that car before :P
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Female 8,001
P.S- Baal- I`ll be in the Coach and Horses at 9 tommorow, wearing an expectant grin!!
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Male 7,817
just like some muslims are terrorist, some christians are terrorists. timothy mcveigh for example was irish catholic. he didnt however blow up a builing for his religion, he did it for political reasons...oh wait, thats exactly what the heads of muslim terrorist groups do. of course they dont do it themselves, they twist their religion to have dumber people do it for them.
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Male 7,817
baalthazaq, im actually going to have to agree with you, at least from my experience. im from detroit and have spent a lot of time in dearborn and hamtramck (the 2 largest concentrations of muslims outside of the middle-east) and they are all great people who love the US, and are just as horrified by the terrorism done in the name of Islam.
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Female 8,001
IRA was political, the protestant catholic divide was an overlay! Plus, not all Catholics or Protestants were terrorists, in fact, virtually none of them were- given the size of the Catholic church over the world. Which of course leads to the fact that most followers of Islam are not terrorists, but some terrorists are islamic.
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Male 4,546
Basically, if you want to pick a metric, there are very few on which you can reliably say the USSR doesn`t count.

For anyone interested, there`s a book called "Who speaks for Islam" that does a pretty good job of capturing what Islam is like from the inside.

Including one particular stat, of those who think 9/11 was justified (already a small %), over 90% say it is because of political, not religious reasons.
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Male 7,817
matt, the IRA wasnt driven by atheism, it was driven by anti-imperialism. In the beginning they had the right idea; fight the british to gain their country back, but lost their way, started killing civilians, and became terrorists.
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Male 4,546
I`m glad it humored you, however, you`ll notice that my repost, after I double checked my figures are still pretty good.

Counting religious motivations for atrocities vs simply the perpetrators then you relegate 9/11 into political (Stated demands and reasoning: Get troops out of Saudi, stop supporting Israel).

If you`re talking about how the variant of that particular group that committed the atrocities also happens to be extremely antagonistic towards people of a certain faith that could then motivate the atrocities, the USSR still stands, killing at a minimum 800`000 purely for religious reasons.

(Part of the USSR ideology included that religion was bad. If you want to argue specific ideologies, make it Wahabism).
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Male 7,817
thats a pretty big dick baalthazaq, but i think i have you beat.
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Female 8,001
Really Baal??? And your address would be----}-)
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Male 134
"Name one war that was fought in the name of atheism..."

While I hate to defend Baalthazaq on his rants I have to mention the IRA and the anarchist movement as a conflict driven by atheism. and that damn punk rock music.
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Male 122
Amerrricaaa F*ck YEA!
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Male 487
this truck owner = real world troll
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Male 134
"Islam ranks 3rd for death toll behind Christianity, and Atheism..."

Haha, I love that you had to check your stats and repost!
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Male 1,610
[quote]Islam ranks 3rd for death toll behind Christianity, and Atheism.[/quote]

Ok, I`m raising the BS flag on that one. Name one war that was fought in the name of atheism. Name an incident in which thousands were killed because they did not share atheistic beliefs.
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Male 808
Baalthazaq-I disagree on your athiest comment. No one kills because of a lack of faith, it was politically motivated in the case of the USSR.
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Male 4,546
"Unlike most redneck stuff, this one has a grain of truth."

Islam ranks 3rd for death toll behind Christianity, and Atheism. The USSR wins. 62 million.

Per person, it wins even more. Your grain has a whole rice field beside it you seem to have missed.

Now, before Overmann tries to kill me (again), am I saying that`s a practical statement, useful for understanding the situation? No. I am not.

I am saying that your argument (posted originally by lazy) is poo, and useful only for big dick competitions. In this particular case, my dick is 20`600 times bigger than yours.
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Male 134
Everything I needed to know about Flame Wars I learned on I-A-B.
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Male 9,305
-headdesk-

Oh no...not this crap again...don`t start...puh-leeeeeze don`t start...*looks at comments*

F*CK!
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Male 363
@vodooshaman
I did not know that but now I`ll remember it. I always assumed rednecks and hillbillies were the same thing.
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Male 421
AMERICA. F*ck yeah!
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Male 1,354
Am I the only one who likes it? Cuz I totally want that truck.
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Female 205
emm... but thats not what islam is about dude.. those were crazy fanatics..
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Male 28
"You can`t define a country by the actions of some radicals" Where does it say in the picture what country Islam has to do with. The statement is bashing Islam period.
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Male 14,331
@kairobert

Hate to be a stickler but the Nazis didn`t exsist in WWI.
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Male 1,610
this guy hasn`t learned anything since the third grade.
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Male 3,296
"i learned everything about the people of usa when they started killing babies in iraq" can be said with the same kind of logic too"
touche`, you cant define a country by the actions of some radicals
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Male 3,296
Its obvious that the reason why he is parked on the handicap is because of a mental illness. Some may call it stupidity
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Male 1,357
what a wanker
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Male 450
i find the term "redneck" offensive this is clearly a hillbilly my great grand father fought hard to be a "redneck" because being a "redneck" meant you were a union coal miner when they where illegal and they wore red bandanas thus the term redneck
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Male 7,817
kairobert, the thing is though, that russia was defending themselves as well from the nazis. We didnt have to go to europe, we could have taken care of our problem (japan) and stayed out of the rest. at least until hitler conquered the rest of europe and tried to make his way across the pond. although, with his planning russia still would have taken care of things, just long after a lot more european soldiers were killed that is.
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Female 8,001
Freedom of speech is fine- how about incitement to riot, defamation of something , public indecency??? I don`t know- but that is unpleasant. Oh- BTW- I am proud to be a socialist.
(bows and retreats)
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Female 877
@blk: honey i`m sorry if you have lost a loved one on that day.
but you musn`t blame an entire nation for that. it`s bad. you`ll understand what i`m saying when you grow up
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Male 3,327
Given the number of posts he has here, and the nature of his posts in this thread, I hereby officially dub blk954 as a Troll, and sentence him to be ignored by everyone (well, me, at least).
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Male 3,327
"The title of this picture is ironic, in a sense, because you`re attempting to say "don`t base your judgements of other people on stereotypes" while doing just that. How daft."

Or, a good attempt at humor. (One, btw, that I missed.)
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Male 363
"Prove it. I don`t want photoshop propoganda pics from socialist scum like you....I want REAL pictures that can be validated from a reliable source. - By the way - I think we lost MANY MANY MANY lives saving your euro-trash relatives from defeat in WWII and WWI. So...fu** off."

You ask her to prove it but then you don`t want information from her? Who`s going to prove it then? Also, when are you going to thank the French for "saving you" from the British? Get some drating manners and read a history book Sherlock.
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Male 229
"IF I EVER SAW A PERSON WITH A VIRGINA PLATE AND THAT PICTURE I WOULD PROBABLY KILL HIM... (I am outraged.)"

Well, I hope you wouldn`t actually kill them, but I`m glad to hear you`re outraged. I`m guessing you`re from Virginia given your post, which certainly had it`s own news worthy of outrage this past week. Apparently the great governer of Virginia decided to re-implement Confederate History Month -- Before anyone starts defending this as being about pride and not racism, read this article by Tim Wise: http://discriminationdaily.com/?p=143
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Male 1,623
"Prove it. I don`t want photoshop propoganda pics from socialist scum like you....I want REAL pictures that can be validated from a reliable source. - By the way - I think we lost MANY MANY MANY lives saving your euro-trash relatives from defeat in WWII and WWI. So...fu** off."

The Russian pseudo-communists lost many more lives fighting the Nazis than USA did, so I see fault in your insult.
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Male 537
Wow... did everyone that commented about the stupid redneck parking in a handicap stop notice the HANDICAP license plate? You guys are probably talking trash about a 90 year old vet.
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Male 185
kimkio
Female, 18-29, Europe
444 Posts Monday, April 19, 2010 9:40:08 AM
"i learned everything about the people of usa when they started killing babies in iraq" can be said with the same kind of logic too

Prove it. I don`t want photoshop propoganda pics from socialist scum like you....I want REAL pictures that can be validated from a reliable source. - By the way - I think we lost MANY MANY MANY lives saving your euro-trash relatives from defeat in WWII and WWI. So...fu** off.
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madduck
Female, 40-49, Europe
394 Posts Monday, April 19, 2010 9:31:40 AM
Oh good god- surely that is illegal ?

Yep...in your freedom deprived country. It sure as hell is!
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Male 4,014
"Oh good god- surely that is illegal ?"

No, we have freedom of speech here.

But, thousands? Its called the South.
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Male 18
the best part is the fact he is in a handicapped spot. perfect for a redneck
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Female 877
"i learned everything about the people of usa when they started killing babies in iraq" can be said with the same kind of logic too
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Female 8,001
Oh good god- surely that is illegal ?
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Male 690
Hundreds of thousands, or even millions. And you have dangerous personality cults forming around Sarah Palin and others like her, who are playing on white working class fear and resentment, stoking violence and ignorance. Like, let`s see...Hitler. See how well it works?
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Male 259
Being a red-neck, I do not think this is typical of red-necks. The title of this picture is ironic, in a sense, because you`re attempting to say "don`t base your judgements of other people on stereotypes" while doing just that. How daft.
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Male 612
IF I EVER SAW A PERSON WITH A VIRGINA PLATE AND THAT PICTURE I WOULD PROBABLY KILL HIM... (I am outraged.)
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Male 15,510
Some people learned all they needed to know about Christians from the pederasts
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Male 4,680
@blk954- Is this you?
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Male 1,067
High 5 @Hemtroll
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Male 7,817
oh, and who cares what the guy in this truck thinks anyway? hes representing a country that doesnt exist.
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Male 7,817
blk, you are an idiot, this has nothing to do with newtons third law. newtons third law is a principle based on the movement of physical objects and has nothing to do with the mental state or freewill actions of people.
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Female 3,574
@blk954

lol
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Male 7,817
olk, yours is obviously shopped, this one on the otherhand looks real.
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Male 363
@blk954
What the drat is your problem? Chill out instead of spewing your poo all over the drating internet. Newton`s third law? To every action there is always an equal and opposite reaction? What the drat does that have to do with anything? Are you saying that radical muslim extremists arose as a reaction to Christian brutality in the past 2000 years?

I don`t know poo about you but judging from your general stance on this one picture I imagine you`re a slow redneck who hates everything that isn`t guns or America and you`re embarassing the rest of your country.
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Male 185
Monday, April 19, 2010 7:58:37 AM
@blk954
Did you hear about that Christian militia group? radical Christians are becoming more and more like their Muslim counterparts

Well...do you know Newton`s Third Law"?. Probably not....so look it up.
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Male 185
Monday, April 19, 2010 8:09:35 AM
blk954, not all Muslims are "radical". Also, you`re kidding yourself if you do not think "radical" Christians exist.

Ummmm....hey stupid..read what I wrote instead of spewing your knee-jerk sh** out of your keyboard. I never said radical christianity didn`t exist.
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a1butcher
Male, 40-49, Canada
2448 Posts Monday, April 19, 2010 8:25:33 AM
He`s parked in the mentally handicapped zone.

I`m sorry....did he take your spot? Fu**ing Canadian...
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Male 191
Not all muslims are terrorists nor all terrorists are muslim. Muhammad (S.A.W) said, if someone kills one human, he killed all humanity. Even if a muslim is doing Jihad, Islam restricts many things like,
Killing of Women, Children and Old peoples,
Killing of animals or destroying crops,
Fighting with those who are not soldiers or in fight.
So next time someone blows himself in between civilains, don`t consider him as Muslim because that is not allowed by Islam. Consider him as a terrorist!

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Male 3,327
dax2009, I have never met a Muslim who was anything but nice. The vast majority of PEOPLE--not just Christians or Muslims or Jews--have grown up since 1478. As Volsunga points out, there are Christian extremists today. My point was that you can`t pick one event, and say that an entire religion is evil because of the actions of a subset of that religion. You can`t say Islam is bad because of 9/11, and you can`t say Christianity is evil because of the Inquisition.

Oh, and ohplease, thanks for the laugh!
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Male 91
this is photoshoped, there is another one (the same picture) that says everything i need to know about america i learned on 4/19/95
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Female 3,562
There are some Islams who feel the same about Christians as this guy feels about them.
And that is the heart of the problem.
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Male 4,807
He`s parked in the mentally handicapped zone.
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Female 322
Rick S - Islam extremists are STILL in 1478 - the rest of us have grown up quite a bit in the past centuries... Nlupu - Islam is a religion, NOT a race (moron)
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Male 10,855
This is the epitome of ignorance.
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Female 654
he probaby has a handicap stick brimstone, you dont know that he doesnt.
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Male 19
Not all Virginians feel that way.

By the way, He`s about due for car state registration, otherwise, I`ll report his crazy redneck ass.
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Male 2,229
Hope this idiot got towed for parking in a handicapped parking zone.
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Female 3,574
blk954, not all Muslims are "radical". Also, you`re kidding yourself if you do not think "radical" Christians exist.
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Male 7,817
its still funny to me that sister religions such as the christians, muslims, and jews hate each other so much.
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Male 1,548
@blk954
Did you hear about that Christian militia group? radical Christians are becoming more and more like their Muslim counterparts
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Male 566
"Everything I need to know about Christianity I learned in 1478" no one expected that!
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Male 3,327
"Everything I ever need to know about Virginia rednecks I learned from this truck"

Much better than my comeback. Wish I had thought of that!
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Male 1,596
how do people live with their blunt ignorance all their lives? it`s stunning.
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Male 56
Everything I ever need to know about Virginia rednecks I learned from this truck
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Female 665
ROFL. The Ford logo is the icing on the cake.
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Male 185
All I can say is thank GOD "radical" Christians are not like "radical muslims" because most people commenting on this picture would be dead or soon be dead.....
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Male 208
""LOL.

Illegally parked in a handicap spot, check.
Hillbilly flag in rear window, check.
Idiotic tailgate sticker, check.

It`s the holy trinity!"

Not that I`m defending this person in any way, but in Virginia they have handicap placards, which hang from the rear view mirror. Since we can`t see it, we don`t know for sure the person is illegally parked."


Not that I`m defending him either, but I agree with what Rick said, and not to mention that isn`t a bumper sticker...for one, it`s not a sticker...and it`s also not on the bumper...more like a tailgate mural, if you will.

But yeah, this is ridiculous. Silly racist redneck...
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Male 500
How do you know he`s not a born again muslim?
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Male 48
Hah! Amusing
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Male 3,327
"You can`t count the crusades since it was both sides going at it."

My link was to the Spanish Inquisition. That was a one sided, government backed affair aimed at getting rid of everyone who wasn`t a Catholic/Christian.
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Male 2,591
how do U know he`s not handicapped?
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Female 3,574
*headdesk*
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Male 1,435
that truck is just begging for a good keying
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Male 265
Somehow I don`t think you can equally compare islamic terrorists with christian ones. You can`t count the crusades since it was both sides going at it.
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Male 758
Simple fix- a quart of DOT 3 brake fluid.
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Male 3,327
"LOL.

Illegally parked in a handicap spot, check.
Hillbilly flag in rear window, check.
Idiotic tailgate sticker, check.

It`s the holy trinity!"

Not that I`m defending this person in any way, but in Virginia they have handicap placards, which hang from the rear view mirror. Since we can`t see it, we don`t know for sure the person is illegally parked.
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Male 3,327
"Ok.....?????????? Where did it mention he was a Christian? Maybe he`s an Agnostic? Maybe he`s something else... idiot."

Where did I say he was a Christian? I never did. I just pointed out that Islam is not the only religion with a violent streak.
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Male 240
LOL.

Illegally parked in a handicap spot, check.
Hillbilly flag in rear window, check.
Idiotic tailgate sticker, check.

It`s the holy trinity!
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Male 7,817
blk, ive never met an agnostic redneck.
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Rick_S
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
1176 Posts Monday, April 19, 2010 6:31:27 AM
Everything I need to know about Christianity I learned in 1478

Ok.....?????????? Where did it mention he was a Christian? Maybe he`s an Agnostic? Maybe he`s something else... idiot.
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Female 9,560
Once a redneck, always a redneck.
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Male 149
dumb people are dumb
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Female 857
When I was in Dubai and everyone was being called to prayer at 5am, I was not best pleased. But, I understand the peace, the contemplation and trying to behave better than you want to, sometimes. Just like my Catholic roots. I think this religion, like many religions, was meant to be something beautiful...then people got hold of it. Maybe, we just have to work life out for ourselves.
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Male 229
This makes me sick. Really thats all you care about? Your going to punish an entire race of people just because of what a few dozen did? Fcuk`n moron...
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Male 10,440
Unlike most redneck stuff, this one has a grain of truth.
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Male 3,327
Everything I need to know about Christianity I learned in 1478
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Male 7,817
thats just ignorance at its best. though you could have just been able to tell that by the confederate flag in his window.
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Female 318
am i first* sorry so sleepy... lol
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Female 318
ugh and...i`m a first?
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Male 20,829
Link: Just Another Typical Redneck Pick-Up Truck [Pic] [Rate Link] - The scary thing is, there are thousands of people like this guy...
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