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122 Responses to Homeless Hero Left To Die As Dozens Walk By.

  1. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 7:50 am
    Link: Homeless Hero Left To Die As Dozens Walk By. - Very sad, why did no one help? What would you have done?
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    Kane132 Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:08 am
    I think people assume he`s homeless/drunk and collapsed on his way home
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:08 am
    The sad sad reality of society today.
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    Sigon Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:12 am
    this is why a majority of people suck...
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:14 am
    I would have ran into the nearest shop to see what they had on sale or if they had a TV that I can watch before calling the police with the cellphone I had just stolen from the dude on the subway minutes earlier. While waiting for the cops I would most likely be wondering if I was going to go punt a baby or club a baby seal later on that night...

    Seriously though it is a definite testament to how self-centered the general public is.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:16 am
    I saw this on the news this morning. I was in a similar situation in Worcester, MA a few years ago. There was a guy, obvously hobo, but laying in the sidewalk, not off to the side - know what I mean, like right in the path of everyone walking. Everyone was stepping over him like he wasn`t even there. My husband rolled him over and I got under his arms to help him sit up and I guess he eitehr fell and bumped his head or got hit or who knows - he was all nonsensical and wasted as you figure a hobo would be. But anyway, I called 911. Simple as that. They came in like one minute, loaded him up, and off he went. It`s so easy to help - I don`t know WTF people are afraid of.
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    DavidXJ Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:19 am
    In some of those people`s defense, I would imagine that in most big cities it is very common to see homeless people passed out on the sidewalk. If they stopped to check every passed out person`s vitals, it would be a very long walk to work.

    Now, the jerk that checked his vitals and then walked away is a jerk.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:24 am
    Lot`s wrong with this. Someone did help. Dozons did not walk by. Nobody was around to witness the attack. This is NYC at dawn, people passed out on the sidewalk are more likely than crime victims.
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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:24 am
    People are sad.
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    Tinkerbellio Female 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:28 am
    I`m almost speechless, however I don`t know what I would have done in the same situation. I hope I would have stopped to help..
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:36 am
    people are just awful beings
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    mcai8rw2 Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:37 am
    So hang on,...
    1. What makes this guy a hero? Did he serve in a war or something?
    2. It happened in NEW YORK. You New Yorkers PRIDE yourselves on being insular, unapproachable and "Stepping on every other new yorker". Have you ever seen how aloof you people are... talk about hypocritical.
    3. Regardless of his previous history in any war... he was STILL homeless. Normal working, tax-paying members of society are bound to ignore a homeless person. That`s just `the way` of it.

    Yes it`s sad, Yes it reflects appallingly on us as humans, But NO... this is not something so unexpected or out-of-the-ordinary.

    p.s. I hate the human race because of just this kind of attiude.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:43 am
    2008 Presidential Election Results for Queens, NY:

    Obama: 436,398 votes - 74.0%
    McCain: 144,362 votes - 25.0%

    That wouldn`t have anything to do with this, though, would it?
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    Evil_Eye Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:45 am
    mcai8rw2:
    1) He saved a woman being mugged and got stabbed because of it.
    2) That`s the point of this video.
    3) Homeless is still human, so again that is the point of this video.

    I live in a city and most people here would of stopped at least to check, so this video is to uncorage other people in citys to do just that because it doesn`t hurt.
  15. Profile photo of cwl212
    cwl212 Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:48 am
    This is nothing new. Social psychologists call it the bystander effect
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    donthaveone Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:56 am
    Unfortunately it`s true what they say...

    "No Good Deed goes Unpunished"

    Which is why he got stabbed and why no one else helped.

    Life Sucks get over it.......
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 8:57 am
    I`d have at least poked him with a stick.
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    Ruswut Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:03 am
    "2008 Presidential Election Results for Queens, NY:

    Obama: 436,398 votes - 74.0%
    McCain: 144,362 votes - 25.0%

    That wouldn`t have anything to do with this, though, would it?"

    I don`t quite get what you`re getting at here? A racist or political trolling?
  19. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:16 am
    donthaveone: He`s dead, I don`t think it`s likely he`s going to be `getting over` that.

    Does anyone remember how `Seinfeld` ended ? It was a commentary on how self-absorbed and non-helping New Yorkers generally are.
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    bananamansam Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:17 am
    way to go New Yorkers
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:19 am
    honestly...do you ask every `passed out` bum that you see if they need help? i dont...
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    holydonut Male 13-17
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:25 am
    It`s New York, no surprise.
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    Pabasa Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:29 am
    It`s not nice that he was ignored, but I was wondering, why didn`t the homeless guy behave like he was in pain?

    If I was in his situation I`d be moaning in pain at the very least to get attention. Reports said he died half an hour after being stabbed. Plenty of time to drag oneself and leave blood on the pavement...

    Theoretical, of course. I don`t know what actually happened. He may have been moaning all along and all the NY people are actually non-nice individuals, I dunno
  24. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:36 am
    Pabasa: He likely passed out due to shock from the trauma of being stabbed.
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    oxyl Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:42 am
    good game =/
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    Pabasa Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:43 am
    :( Ah well. I guess the only consolation we can get is that he`s probably somewhere in heaven right now?
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:47 am
    And, of course, the woman he helped just takes off without so much as a glance backward.
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    bmg09 Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:55 am
    Dont be too quick to judge. U can associate the clip with the diffusion of responsibility. People neglect to get involved in situations like this because it is acting out of a social norm and are only more likely to if they are not alone. People often will make up an excuse in their heads to why they should not do something. In this case, there is a good chance most of those passersby told themselves he was a drunk. I certainly hope we all would do different, but the cold fact is that not all of us would. That a good deal of us, even after reading what I`ve said. would do the same as seen in the the video.
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    MrVandercar Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:55 am
    i have seen so many more homeless on the west coast than in NY... maybe you californians just don`t notice them...
  30. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:57 am
    Only 7 people walked by in total before the police arrived, not dozens. Three showed concern, and one of those three called the authorities.

    Two in the video were women and not many women are gonna be investigating dead bodies on the sidewalk. The first guy walked by at night and may not have seen the blood and just thought the guy was sleeping. The two guys taking pics with their cell phones are f***ed up but other than that I`d say it was sh***y circumstances, not sh***y people.
  31. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 9:58 am
    "So hang on,...
    1. What makes this guy a hero? Did he serve in a war or something?
    2. It happened in NEW YORK. You New Yorkers PRIDE yourselves on being insular, unapproachable and "Stepping on every other new yorker". Have you ever seen how aloof you people are... talk about hypocritical.
    3. Regardless of his previous history in any war... he was STILL homeless. Normal working, tax-paying members of society are bound to ignore a homeless person. That`s just `the way` of it.

    Yes it`s sad, Yes it reflects appallingly on us as humans, But NO... this is not something so unexpected or out-of-the-ordinary.

    p.s. I hate the human race because of just this kind of attiude."

    AND EUROPEANS MAKE LISTS!!! SO THERE!!
  32. Profile photo of TopperHey
    TopperHey Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:03 am
    I`d love to know what happened to the woman who he helped.
  33. Profile photo of MidniteRun
    MidniteRun Male 13-17
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:20 am
    This is a perfect example of the selfish, self-centered and quite frankly evil American culture. This would never happen in Britain, I can be almost certain in saying that if I walked past a man lying face down in the street I would without hesitation run over to see if he was ok. I bet most people in Britain would do the same.

    Typical Americans, they only care about themselves. Disgusting.
  34. Profile photo of Ches47
    Ches47 Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:29 am
    splurbyburbl


    He was a hero because he prevented the woman from being stabbed and was stabbed in the process. Did you even watch it?
    bmg has it right, often those that walk by also think "someone else will take care of it"
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    Ches47 Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:30 am
    Sorry, my post was directed at:
    mcai8rw2

    by bad splurbyburbl
  36. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:32 am
    MidniteRun: The majority of Americans find this appalling and would do something to help someone bleeding to death on the sidewalk. Please don`t paint all Americans with the same brush.
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    Byfield Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:33 am
    A lot of people would think hes sleeping, plus that guy checked him out, a lot of people would be freaked out. i personally would have done somthing.
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    MP3Daddy Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:33 am
    So I have to assume that the last guy called 911. Its hard to tell though. NYC is a f-ed up place.
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    Thesphinx Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:44 am
    I would be hesitant to disturb the man to find out if he was okay, if he was truly homeless. But at least I would check to see if he was just sleeping, and if he wasn`t then I`d call 9-1-1 and tell them that I had found a body at this place.
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    comuser59 Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:47 am
    MidniteRun, take a breath and read some of the other posts. cwl212 has it right. This is a classic case of the bystander effect at work. Wikipedia Kitty Genovese and you`ll get a case example of the bystander effect. So, reserve the judgement unless you know what you`re talking about.
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    Gortrok Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:51 am
    Jesus, what is wrong with people?!?! If I saw someone lying face down on the street, homeless or not, I would check to see if he was okay.

    Seriously, 911 is a REALLY EASY NUMBER TO DIAL.
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    Gortrok Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:54 am
    @ skypirate
    "honestly...do you ask every `passed out` bum that you see if they need help? i dont..."

    Wow man, you must see a LOT of passed out bums to have developed that kinda attitude... :P
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    Loxen Female 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:55 am
    Thinking about it honestly, I would most likely go on with my own worries/concerns unless there was a noticeable sign of blood or the guy groaned etc.
    That`s not being mean, its from living in a big city for years where people laying on the sidewalk is just...well... normal. It happens. Daily.
    You think there`s something wrong with them, but no... they`re just effed up batpoo crazy or drunk/drugged and took a nap on the sidewalk.
    Best to go around them and let them be, because often they get peeved if you try to wake em up.

    This vid isn`t the norm, a guy just drunk off his butt is the norm.
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    donthaveone Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 10:57 am
    "Wow man, you must see a LOT of passed out bums to have developed that kinda attitude... :P"

    Clearly you`ve never been to NY.
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    donthaveone Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:00 am
    Plus... when their not passed out face down in the gutter, they are hitting you up for change.

    You want "Change"?
    GET A JOB you`ll see a big Fuucking "Change"
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    Loxen Female 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:01 am
    "ok. I bet most people in Britain would do the same."

    Yes, they would. I`ve been to London, and its just as bad.
    Sidenote: As a kid, my first experience of seeing a homeless person dig through a rubbish bin was when I was visiting family in Manchester. I asked my Aunt why they were eating trash instead of going to a shelter, and she just shuffled me off in the other direction and changed the topic.
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    HappyAbes Female 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:05 am
    ive never seen a past out guy before so i really dont know what id do, to many people joke about doing stupid things like this so how do i know to take it serious or not? id prob pone 911 anyway
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    RyanHake Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:06 am
    How can you not see that blood? That`s bullpoo, those individuals are non-nice individuals.
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    rakoonhat Female 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:06 am
    wow midnight, kind of rascist arent we.
    this could happen anywhere, the fact that it is in new york makes it rather believable. there are plenty of people just sleeping on the ground for it to get normal after a while, and there is no horrificly huge blood stain on the concrete to show distress.
    plus i dont know if you ever smelt a homeless person but typically people dont go up and start sniffing normal bathing humans let alone the ones you can smell a mile waway
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    Concetra Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:08 am
    Green shirt, dark pants, and green hat?


  51. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:14 am
    So why did the woman robbery victim who saw what happened not call the police and tell them what happened, seeing as how she was the only one who knew?
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    senia Female 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:17 am
    well, yeah people probably thought that the guy was asleep/passed out...but i`m pretty observant and if i realized there was something wrong, i would call the cops. that poor guy...
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    Ani187 Female 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:26 am
    That`s a damn good question, Lando.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:33 am
    "2008 Presidential Election Results for Queens, NY:

    Obama: 436,398 votes - 74.0%
    McCain: 144,362 votes - 25.0%

    That wouldn`t have anything to do with this, though, would it?"

    I don`t quite get what you`re getting at here? A racist or political trolling?
    Liberals/Democrats are always accusing Conservatives/Republicans of being cold-hearted, uncaring, unfeeling, and unconcerned for the welfare of the homeless and less fortunate among us. Here they were given a chance to prove how much more compassionate they were, and they failed about as miserably as one could possibly imagine.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:46 am
    Liberals/Democrats are always accusing Conservatives/Republicans of being cold-hearted, uncaring, unfeeling, and unconcerned for the welfare of the homeless and less fortunate among us. Here they were given a chance to prove how much more compassionate they were, and they failed about as miserably as one could possibly imagine.

    I agree 100%. I mean, this was the democrats` golden ticket; their shining opportunity to show the world that they care, and they blew it! I think I heard `Eye of the Tiger` playing in the background (wait, thats my neighbors, nvm) 74% democrats means that only one or two of the people in the video were republicans and you know the republican guy was the one who called the cops.
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    Hiromi Female 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 11:56 am
    I hate how the homeless are frowned upon. A lot of them really are good people, yet society shuns them because of their class. I wish people judged by one`s character and not by their ability to make money.
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    DeutschDude9 Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 12:14 pm
    Everyone calling Democrats hypocrites are idiots. Just because you want to set up support for these people (hobos), doesn`t mean you`re going to go about your day checking every hobo lying on the floor to see if they are not stabbed. Plus you have no clue what the political believes of the bystanders were, it doesn`t matter that 74% of queens voted for Obama. There are way too many variables which statistically invalidate the assumption that these people are all democrats who want to force their believes of social welfare on you.
    Really, The only A-hole in that situation was the one who took the picture.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 12:25 pm
    This isn`t a Democrat/Republican thing... to be honest. I think almost everyone in that video just thought he was passed out drunk.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 12:35 pm
    @Baalthazag - even if he was passed out drunk, why wouldn`t someone call 911? He`s not over in the corner or anything, he`s practically in the street. Jeez, remind me never to go out drinking with any of you people!
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 12:37 pm
    @Oystah

    That wouldn`t have happened to be in main south would it? If you ever get the opportunity it`s such a lovely place for example one time I saw two guys leave a bar both extermly drunk get on bicycles on opposite sides of the block then both approach the corner at about 1/3 of a mile an hr swaying both of them. They then hit each other and became tangled in each others bikes at the slowest speed colision I`ve ever seen. This is horrible though way didn`t the lady who was saved help him?
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 12:47 pm
    vv LOL - that`s a great story! It was somewhere around the Worcester Centrum/Civic Center(?) whatever they call it now. I don`t know the street, but that`s where we were walking to.
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    Namikaze Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 12:48 pm
    If you report a dead body to the police you instantly become the number 1 suspect in the death.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 1:22 pm
    @Oystah

    DCU center now give it a year or two and they`ll rename it to the highest bidder lol.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    "Very sad, why did no one help?"

    Well, its America so
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 1:34 pm
    That`s messed up..but I can imagine in a place like New York people would be less inclined to help people.

    Glad I`m a countryboy tbh ^^
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    admisaok Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 1:46 pm
    they probably thought he was passed out drunk
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    madest Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    Why is it only foreigner`s and rednecks are appalled by this? The same rednecks who are adamantly against national healthcare are peeved the homeless man wasn`t tended to quick enough? Screw you. I hope his final medical bill came out of your insurance premium.
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    Sonsglow Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 1:53 pm
    If the people didn`t see blood (which most probably did not *especially* if this was at night) then they probably tried to turn their attention away from the man anyways. I live in Denver which has a comparatively low number of homeless compared with other large cities and I feel like they are on every corner trying to sell drugs or hassling you for money. I can only imagine how it is in a crime-ridden, homeless-haven like NYC. People probably just try to pay attention to what they are doing/where they are going and steer clear of potential threats.
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    footpenis Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 2:32 pm
    because my gps couldnt find refrigerator box
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    planty Female 30-39
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    April 26, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    I place blame on the lady he helped. I`m sure she watched him as he chased the attacker..Why didm`t she give him help? He thought enough of her, to help in her time of need.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 2:46 pm
    It`s the bystander effect. It gets exacerbated by the fact that it`s in a big city where most of the people you encounter are total strangers it might be safer just to ignore.
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    Jabbox Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 2:50 pm
    I`d like to think that I`d help if I knew he was actually in danger, but statistically, I probably wouldn`t.
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    domisgood Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    man this sucks :/
    can`t really blame anyone but the mugger/stabber - the people walking by couldnt tell what had happened.
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    xKrazyKoalax Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 3:30 pm
    He was homeless guy face down on a side walk. Who doesn`t see that every day in the city? He was on top of the blood so no one could see it. Except that one dude before the firefighters wtf.
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    darkgear6 Male 70 & Over
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    April 26, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    If he was dead, what could they do?
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    xxamsey Female 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 4:01 pm
    If that happened in my city, I would call the cops right away. I`ve helped quite a few passed out drunk guys find their way home before, and I`m sure I`d at least tap this guy on the shoulder to see if he`s alright.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    April 26, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    It all depends on your perspective - he wasn`t a hero as far as the Robbers Guild is concerned.
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    Farsidedown Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 4:40 pm
    They guy who rolled him over knew he was dead, as did the guy who took the picture (probably). Both should be arrested/fined.
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    npdarren Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 4:41 pm
    And that`s why you never help someone who`s being mugged.
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    Farsidedown Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 4:47 pm
    Madest: "Why is it only foreigner`s and rednecks are appalled by this? The same rednecks who are adamantly against national healthcare are peeved the homeless man wasn`t tended to quick enough? Screw you. I hope his final medical bill came out of your insurance premium."

    Keep on trollin`. You just turned a bunch of selfish people not helping a guy who was trying to stop a mugger (including the person who got mugged! Why didn`t they stay to help their defender???) into a pissing contest between conservatives and democrats. I hope his final medical bill came out of YOUR insurance premium.
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    Caker Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 5:12 pm
    depending on where you are it`s not that unusual to see someone laying face down on the sidewalk the majority of the people who walked by probably assumed he was just drunk and passed out the woman he helped should be really proud of herself however she doesn`t go to check if he`s okay or even take the time to phone 911
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    seabass101dg Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 5:12 pm
    Maybe if there weren`t so many goddam hobos in New York passed out on the street, people wouldn`t be completely desensitized.
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    D3rAnG3d Male 18-29
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    April 26, 2010 at 5:26 pm
    wow... people really are poo
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    SuperN00B Male 30-39
    270 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 5:44 pm
    Heard about this a few days ago, heard another story about a 911 operator not helping a little kid save there dyeing mother a few days/weeks before that (again). What the h*ll is wrong with people these days?
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    zmeace Male 18-29
    807 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 5:52 pm
    its hard to say "what would you have done?" im sure everyone on here would be saying, "i would have helped him oh yeah thats horrible just leaving him like that" and while that is very true i think once you are actually in that situation right there, things change, you get scared and you dont know what to do. so while it is def wrong that these people didnt stop and some guy actually took a picture of him, and i know that even if you are scared you wouldnt do this, you still have to put yourself in (some) of the people`s shoes, (not the bad ones like the one that took a picture of the guy) and then you can answer, "what would you have done?"


    Why do the good die young?
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    SomeShoes Male 13-17
    2056 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 5:57 pm
    if i saw blood, i would`ve stopped and done something
    to me, it just looks like the by passers assumed he was just lying down or something
    yeah, i know not exactly, but i didn`t see blood, and noone really wants to touch a homeless person (truth)
  87. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
    1610 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 6:06 pm
    They guy who rolled him over knew he was dead, as did the guy who took the picture (probably). Both should be arrested/fined.

    How do you know that guy didn`t get someone to call the cops?

    To be fair, Maddest didn`t make this political, Oldollie did. I was trying to point out how absurd it is to speculate as to the political affiliation of these individuals but I don`t think anyone got the joke.
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    JaundiceCake Female 18-29
    674 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 6:51 pm
    I see this all the time on I Survived, too. What the drat?

    I`m sure most thought he was drunk and passed out, but I hope this video influences all of us to call for help or investigate a little more when we see someone lying motionlessly in conspicuous places.
  89. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3431 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    What *WE* need to do is find the murderer and hang his ass. It`s a statement about the world we live in that a homeless man died trying to help someone else. The "victim" had to have known he was stabbed, did she just leave him to die as well?

    I don`t know what I might have done. I`d like to think that I`d try to help. I grew up in a small town in the Mountains where, believe it or not, there is a sense of community. I`ve tried to maintain that ideology but in the face of overwhelming apathy and scorn, it`s difficult to justify.

    Either way I carry a gun, just in case.
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    akijade Female 18-29
    1006 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    One time I found a group of three people laying on the sidewalk at the campus library. Is was the weekend and no one else was around. I called out to them and they didn`t respond. My boyfriend at the time crept closer, then told me it looked like one of them had a head wound. We called 911, and about the time the operator was about to send police, one of them looked up at us and said they were okay, and that they were just napping. Scared the poo out of me. The "head wound" was hair dye. I think the police strolled by anyway. But we left.

    </unrelated story>
  91. Profile photo of Exsilium
    Exsilium Male 18-29
    134 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 7:24 pm
    A little life was stripped out of that guy each time someone walked by him. The cops should be out looking for about a dozen murderers instead of one.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 7:32 pm
    Everyone calling Democrats hypocrites are idiots. Just because you want to set up support for these people (hobos), doesn`t mean you`re going to go about your day checking every hobo lying on the floor to see if they are not stabbed.
    That`s exactly my point. You don`t want get your hands dirty to help anyone. You just want to marshal the coercive power of the state to take my money to "set up support." That way, you can wash your hands of the whole situation while you congratulate yourself for being so much better that the guy whose pocket you are picking to finance your "generosity."

    P.J. O`Roarke said it best: "A liberal is someone who would gladly give you the shirt off someone else`s back."
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    sbuninja Female 18-29
    168 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 8:26 pm
    Welcome to NY. This is what I see every day and it used to bother me very much. I have learned I need to leave this place (not originally from here). People don`t care. They will steal anything, cut you off while driving in the most dangerous fashion, ignore cries for help, and be overly selfish on a daily basis. Then they whine on the news that "nobody cares" and how terrible the world is. They care about themselves and think OTHER people should be doing something.
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    ElDavo Male 18-29
    2149 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 8:44 pm
    Drating New York, that`s all I have to say.
  95. Profile photo of romapenn
    romapenn Female 18-29
    92 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 8:56 pm
    It`s called the Bystander Effect.
  96. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8306 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 9:04 pm
    > Exsilium
    > A little life was stripped out of that guy each time someone walked by him. The cops should be out looking for about a dozen murderers instead of one

    There are people in YOUR town who haven`t got enough food to eat. Why aren`t you out there feeding them?

    Because as much as we`d like to help everyone, all the time, we have other things in life too. You can help 99 `dying men` in the street and save 99 lives, and then number 100 will take your wallet and put a bullet through your brain. You can`t blame the people walking past, its the Society we`ve collectively made thats to blame.

    Though I do have to say, in Australia, the very first person would have called an ambulance and stayed with him until it arrived. At worst, the second or third, if he was an aboriginal. Painful to admit, but true.
  97. Profile photo of Powderdd
    Powderdd Male 18-29
    12 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 9:15 pm
    Far less likely to act in a group setting than individual setting due to: 1) Diffusion of Responsibility (do not hold self responsible for outcome)
    2) Collective Ignorance (Looking to others to see how to react)
    3) Evaluation Apprehension (worrying about overreacting or panicking in front of other people when not necessary.)

    Another explanation is social exchange theory which says that acts of altruism are limited to a cost-benefit model. Since he was bleeding the cost of helping would have been greater, therefore less likely to help...there are better models for altruism though.

    Just had my social psych final today ;P
  98. Profile photo of OrangeCrow
    OrangeCrow Female 18-29
    1199 posts
    April 26, 2010 at 9:58 pm
    @Powderdd: Yep, you`re right.

    It`s so sad though. =( I`m glad my mom taught me the importance of helping others and to being a good Samaritan. I know if I ever noticed this I wouldn`t stand around, I`d at least call an ambulance for them. Never assume that "someone else will help them," you always have to take the initiative.
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    rebetikas Male 30-39
    213 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 12:20 am
    What happened to the woman that was being mugged? didn`t she bother calling anyone?
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    Pyroo Male 18-29
    108 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 1:13 am
    Phew, America... "drat yeah"
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    Webb03 Female 18-29
    166 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 2:50 am
    My thoughts exactly, Rebetikas.
    Also running through my mind, at current, is "wft is wrong with people today?"...
  102. Profile photo of srximus
    srximus Male 30-39
    182 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 3:57 am
    Please, how about collective responsibility of the nation? Homeless people die every day on the streets and are ignored by the rest of the nation.

    Why would this case be any different? Noone saw him protect the woman and everyone assumed he was just another dead homeless person.
  103. Profile photo of Samsquanch
    Samsquanch Male 30-39
    792 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 3:59 am
    Chance are, 90% of you yokels would have done the same thing...just walked away. Humans have an instinct that tells them to ignore trouble...if there`s trouble around, pretend we don`t see it, and hopefully it will avoid us.

    It`s sad that there are only a few truly altruistic people in the world, but it`s part of human survival. Myself, I would have done what I could to assist...I have before, and it almost got me in trouble a few times, but I`ll continue to do so. One time, I was almost involved in a high risk take down involving about a dozen police, K9 units, and a gangbanger.
  104. Profile photo of Samsquanch
    Samsquanch Male 30-39
    792 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 4:03 am
    ...and another thing...people would recognize him as being homeless and think one of two things:
    1) It`s a scam of some kind, and as soon as you try to help, you`re going to get robbed by his buddy who might be hiding in the shadows
    2) He`s completely insane, and as soon as you try to help, he`ll stab you in the face.
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    mcai8rw2 Male 18-29
    20 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 4:49 am
    @Gortrok


    "honestly...do you ask every `passed out` bum that you see if they need help? i dont..."

    Wow man, you must see a LOT of passed out bums to have developed that kinda attitude... :P

    That`s the point. We (as a western society) DO see a lot of bums passed out in the street/dealing drugs/jacking up etc... that`s WHY we`re so insensitive to it.

    Its a generalisation, but TBH generalisations exist BECAUSE they are true. Just like stereotypes.
  106. Profile photo of bram
    bram Male 18-29
    577 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 9:07 am
    I would have called 911! I`m not just saying that. I was walking home with my sister one day and we saw a homeless guy passed out in an alley. We got a bottle of water and a snack from the store we were next to and it turned out he was dehydrated. We didn`t leave him alone until he promised he was feeling better.

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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 2:31 pm
    New york is a terrible city! THey dont care about them selves as other cities do!
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 2:32 pm
    By other citiers i refer to smaller cities!
  109. Profile photo of idiotfilter
    idiotfilter Male 18-29
    3916 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 3:28 pm
    damn bram....that story of complete selflessness left me speechless....it`s too bad no one care`s about Jon Doe`s storytime....now go shutup somewhere...
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    lkc1 Female 13-17
    224 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 6:53 pm
    id lik to think id help... but i dont think i would...
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    Linkenberger Male 18-29
    1164 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 8:09 pm
    The good samaritan was in need of a good samaritan.

    No good deed goes unpunished.
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    AlANeptune Female 18-29
    264 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 8:45 pm
    Freaking New YOOOOORK...

    An Aussie would`ve helped....
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    April 27, 2010 at 9:56 pm
    What happened to the woman that was being mugged? didn`t she bother calling anyone?

    It turns out she wasn`t being mugged; she was having a fight with her boyfriend. He started smacking her around, and the homeless guy stepped in to help her. The boyfriend stabbed the homeless guy, and the girl and her boyfriend both left in different directions.
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    CreepyShanny Female 18-29
    152 posts
    April 28, 2010 at 1:50 pm
    im with linkenberger....no good deed goes unpunished....


    and to me its just sick to walk past someone suffering and not do a damn thing to help....revolting
  115. Profile photo of krisley
    krisley Male 18-29
    525 posts
    April 28, 2010 at 8:32 pm
    If it happened in an isolated room, and the only two parties in there were you and the homeless guy, probably like 80% of us would gladly help the man. Sadly, when in a group, people are more apt to think, "eh, someone else will help `im," and walk right on by, as seen here.
  116. Profile photo of Natzz-
    Natzz- Female 13-17
    158 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 1:49 pm
    people are poo.
  117. Profile photo of zekumi
    zekumi Female 18-29
    400 posts
    May 1, 2010 at 11:49 pm
    I can say with 100% honestly that I would NEVER just walk past someone bleeding to death on the street.
    Who does that? I mean, I could understand if they didn`t see blood and assumed he was just sleeping or passed out, but good god.

    I would`ve been nervous, but I would`ve called 911 and stayed there until someone showed up. You don`t just leave someone dead or bleeding on the street.
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    flabagaba16 Male 13-17
    3 posts
    May 8, 2010 at 2:06 am
    people are pieces of s h i t. I`m lucky i`m not one.
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    Earl_Grey Female 18-29
    131 posts
    May 20, 2010 at 2:45 pm
    it`s called the bystander effect. The more people around, the less likely it is that anyone will help.
    @zekumi don`t be so sure. you never know how you`re going to react. they are regular people who are probably pretty decent in regular life.
  120. Profile photo of Earl_Grey
    Earl_Grey Female 18-29
    131 posts
    May 20, 2010 at 2:45 pm
    I`m not saying this isn`t horrible btw
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    necrobitch Female 18-29
    467 posts
    May 20, 2010 at 8:15 pm
    those people are selfish c`unts of b`astards

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