<CTRL><C> / <CTRL><V> - Keys to Disney`s Success!

Submitted by: Mickets 7 years ago in Entertainment

How the lazy animators at Disney copy/pasted their movies to success.
There are 116 comments:
Female 116
Seeing how copy and paste didn`t exist when these movies were made, that wasn`t how it was done. Also, the same few people did all of the art and animation for all of the disney movies back in the day so of course they are going to be some scenes that are the same.
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Female 467
wow this just ruined my childhood LOL
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Female 2
This is why Disney is for kids... adults look way to into things... kids would never know the difference
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Female 1,199
I remember this. p: I think it`s still on my favorites.

Even if they did copy a lot of poses and movements I still prefer a lot of it to the newer stuff. ^^;
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Male 134
2 points for every comment that is not anti-semetic
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Female 864
This is so old .
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Male 540
The "lazy" remarks were shot down the last time this video was posted here.

Rotoscoping is a pretty standard animation practice now, and was certainly more so at the time this stuff was made.
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Female 1,515
Lol! After reading the comments I went back and listened to the music...It sounds so funny in french xD Bashful`s voice actor is hilarious!
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Female 1,515
Interesting, but if I was a Disney animator i`d do the same thing lol. It took so long for them to animate those movies...It`s understandable they`d use templates, where they could, to speed up the process...Especially for relatively insignificant moments in the movies such as the ones in the video.
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Male 11
I t is copy/paste if they used codes and scripts to animate, which I highly doubt, especially since most of these are classics
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Male 157
I don`t think Copy paste really fits this..its more like Draw it again Dammit! Why!? Because i told you to that`s why!
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Female 914
saw this already. don`t see the big deal, but vid was funny anyway.
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Male 390
Im not sure what everyone`s complaining about. theres what? 6 movies here? out of the staggering number of movies Disney has made, so what if they used the same scene in a few movies?
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Male 25,416
wow, so many people wouldnt have picked it!
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Male 842
Older than Walt Disney`s frozen head...
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Female 876
Makes sense to do to me. Save money. Save time. Work smarter, not harder.
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Male 418
Khronnus has an excellent point. And i don`t care how hard it was to make these films, they are know for their quality and production skills, so this is pathetic and lazy to just rework the sma things over and over...we all know their `originality` is bogus (grimms fairy tales, and stealing most movie themes from the Japanese)....
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Male 422
i still don`t know how you can copy and paste a hand drawn picture XD
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Male 1,190
What is truly disturbing is the misogynistic messages that program girls to wait for some guy to come save her, or even worse a woman who gets abducted and falls in love with her captor.
There was no "Golden Age" of Disney films they have always been whacked.
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Female 322
This looks like its mostly older stuff. And it was harder to make movies back then. So it is lazy but if they were doing that still now it would be more of a big deal.
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Male 117
Like this isn`t a repost... Well, i dunno actually, i just remember i saw it a while ago and i`m *pretty* sure it was here...
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Female 388
These advertisers are really starting to piss me off.
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Male 965
wow cool
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Male 621
I heard something different to what most people are saying here. I heard that because o the success of the earlier films it`s kinda like a subliminal message, when the brain see`s somethign similar to the otehr films it makes you like them too.
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Male 6,693
Wow. Who knew.
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Male 7
No idea if that`s been said already, but these animations were copied and altered by the "new" animators of Disney, after the old ones have retired. The new ones still had a lot to learn, so they also copied old works to study them and improve while working on them.

So, fellow IABers, if you`d pay attention while browsing IAB, you`d also know this! I read that on Cracked I believe, where I was linked to by IAB ;) Been a while, but I can`t be the only one to remember, right?
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Male 237
they`re called templates. Actually the most impressive thing about this video is the amazing quality of the animation. Were talking 1930`s.
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Male 296
Well that just blew it for me, I thought they went into the forest and filmed it.
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Male 458
What a great video for 420
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Male 50
bryantm3 - Wednesday, April 21, 2010 12:19:50 AM
That was very informative, thanks!

On topic: BTW, let`s remember that most of this is hand-drawn, each & every frame, so calling the animators lazy is somewhat stupid.
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Female 276
all this really shows is the people at disney need to take some dance classes and come up with some ne moves! lol.
but seriously, so what its not like therestealing from someone else, its there own films who caares if they "copy pasted"
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Male 3,819
Hey poojanai, a little advice for you and your little bitchass friends: posting on topic doesn`t mean it gets past use. Die in a fire.
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Male 928
They didn`t copy finished frames or everything would look exactly the same. What they did copy were the rough outlines by which they created the finished frames from.

Basically once you had the rough sketch you could use that roughed version to produce another storyboard from. You have a dance scene you grab your roughed frames from a previous movie and make the characters look different in the finished version.

This is actually better than re-using background images because it looks better in the final cut. You have a new story with the same motions from a mix of previous versions only the motion takes place by different characters.

People who actually take the time to pick these out are wasting time really. There is no point.

Animation = time and time = money.
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Male 1,557
It`s not laziness, it`s something Disney are known for and acknowledge, it`s just linking to other animations from other films.
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Male 179
either way, it`s fascinating to look at those old cartoons and realize that those are actual people dancing around from 50 years ago.
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Male 179
are any of y`all familiar with rotoscoping? see this charles schwab advert for an example of more close-up rotoscoping:

here

disney were pioneers of rotoscoping. what it involves is filming people playing a part, then cartooning over it frame-by-frame. you may notice that snow white dances in a lifelike way for a cartoon— that is because she is rotoscoped. now, for those who say the animation has been copied are incorrect— the similar animations were created separately, but both animations used the same stock footage to animate over. it would be pretty silly to redraw all the frames of a non rotoscoped scene when it would be just as easy to create a new scene. they may have just recycled the footage, or it could`ve been animated by cartoonists who didn`t recognize the similarity. either way
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Female 43
even if the moovies where copy paste they were 5000 times better that this crap they create these days..!
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Male 24
I thought the music was awesome, does anyone know the name?
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Female 58
Don`t forget that you need AT LEAST 24 drawings for every second of animation. The VERY best animator in the 30`s could make 25 to 30 feet of film in a day or two...that is about 4 seconds of video. They reuse shell frames because there are not very many animators that can produce them that quickly and at such high quality.

The only reason people notice this copy process is because Disney copies actual animated frames but other companies copy BACKGROUND frames. Ever notice that in a cartoon where the character is running left or right you see the same background go by a few times? That is because they use the same fully finished background over and over to save time and money. Animation is very expensive. I charge quite a bit for the animations I make.

Trust me on this subject, I have a degree in animation.

(At least it`s not anime(sp?) and it`s [email protected] still frames. They run 10 - 20 frames a second I believe. Looks like $hit to me.)
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Female 223
Those animations were drawn almost entirely by hand, and looked amazing. Would you not have done the same? 24 per second for 80 minutes of animation. I would.
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Male 13
If you really knew about animation they do an outline shell of the image and put a cell over top and color and copy and another cell is colored and copied and etc.....

Then they will reuse the original cell to save some time on the next cartoon they make.

why dont you check out the simpsons or family guy and you will find that they do the same thing
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Female 525
They obviously had to redraw everything from scratch. I feel like they copied the moves on purpose thought, as a mini joke for themselves.
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Male 1,837
i was hoping it wasnt this video.

you have failed me. therefore i state: old and repost.
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Female 3,828
this is as old as the earth itself.

sidenote- when i was little, i thought the actual robin hood story was about a fox. not people.
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Male 299
Oh man this irony is rich.
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Female 82
They had the same idea, but they still had to dratING draw it out again, so it`s not exactly cut and paste. Idiots.
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Male 423
I believe Disney suck-seeded because they were cartoons used to babysit young kids for hours. Side note: How to train your dragon was awesome in 3-d stoned. 420! :D
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Male 214
copy crap, post bullpoo.
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Male 207
I like how you probably got your title, "CTRL+C"/"CTRL+V" from one of the comments on the YouTube page, as someone else said it on there.

Originality FTW!
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Male 10,440
Reposht
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Male 212
Talk about a time saver...
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Female 665
I was going to say how ironic it is that IAB has posted this same video about 5 times already, but then I saw that Zerocyde already said the same thing and if I didn`t add the fact that Zerocyde said so already then that would be even more ironic. I don`t know if that made any sense to you guys, but it just blew my mind.

HAPPY 420!
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Male 5,626
I thought the key to Disney`s success was the porn noises and sex suggestions that are slipped into almost every show.

Miley "The JB Pole Dancer" Cyrus is working/had worked for Disney, right?
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Female 255
Still good stuff, and I don`t think kids really even care. Disney was and always will be awesome in my book. However, I am not surprised at their antics. I say, meh. Who cares!?!
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Male 3,482
"And if you were older than 12 you would know exactly what this music is from, and why it is perfect for this video."

I`m older than 12... And I don`t know what it is...

BTW, I thought it was common knowledge that Disney, for the longest time, had a set of stock animations that they just drew and colored the rest of the scenes around most of the time.

That way they didn`t have to worry about syncing up the music and frames and all that every time they made a dancing scene or something like that.

They just had to use songs that had the same rhythms.
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Female 1,172
Don`t care. Still love Disney movies. And as for the music, I think the music went well with the video...and yet, I do like Lady Gaga...hmm
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Male 3,915
that was freakin crazy! Why was the music so damn ear-splintering though?!
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Male 3,255
I was like, "neat, another video showing disney copy pasting!" then I was like, "Ohh, its the exact same as the last 12 times."

Also, to the song haters, quit being 12. Lady Gaga isn`t drating music. And if you were older than 12 you would know exactly what this music is from, and why it is perfect for this video.
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Female 111
i know it`s a repost, but i wonder why disney did that? i thought they were great, but now, not so much.
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Male 1,141
I was way more distracted by the creepy French yodeling O_O
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Male 72
repost just under a different name
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Male 63
Could have done without the music...Seriously, yodeling?
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Male 2,690
Wow, pretty awesome.
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Female 4,028
Old video is old.
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Female 9,572
I`m not gonna say it.
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Male 712
I look at it this way. It`s a lot like the next Apple iProduct. No matter what spin you put on it or how it`s done ...even in the most lazy fashion...people will still shell out huge $$$$$$ for it at the end of the day.
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Male 2,056
i love disney`s robin hood, LOVED IT(<my fav disney movie)

Errol Flynn`s robin hood cannot be beat in any way shape or form either
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Male 15,510
"Ok you guys need to stop freaking whining about reposts - WHO CARES if it`s been posted before? I hadn`t seen this particular one before. This site gets new people every day who haven`t seen these links before. Get over it and move on. There`s a "back" button if you`ve already seen it. Use it. "

Let me hear that from you again after you have try to submit all kinds of links and they instead re post old links...
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Female 1,604
Well if it hasn`t been reposted in awhile that is fine, but we complain because you are coming to a site for new content and you end up getting the same thing
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Male 215
copy / paste is the key to iab`s success too, apparently.
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Female 73
Ok you guys need to stop freaking whining about reposts - WHO CARES if it`s been posted before? I hadn`t seen this particular one before. This site gets new people every day who haven`t seen these links before. Get over it and move on. There`s a "back" button if you`ve already seen it. Use it.
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Male 4,014
what do you know...
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Male 224
Excellent sledge on the head.
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Male 91
Nothing about Disney will ever surprise me..
..even if they turn out to be a bunch of time traveling nazi robots from the 18th Dimension hell bent on summoning Xenu to make the best fricking blueberry pancakes in the universe.
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Female 40
You know.. As a big Disney fan, I should be all "oh noes, all is wrong now" but honestly... I couldn`t care less...
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Male 40,764
Reposty of a reposty? Iz better the third time around eh?
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Male 9,305
"Was in the papers last year. disney basically said "We were on a bugdet...""

Yeahhhh and they can afford fireworks at their theme parks every single night.
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Female 1,682
Heh, that was interesting o.o
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Male 65
This is a repost from back in the day
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Male 424
Was in the papers last year. disney basically said "We were on a bugdet..."
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Female 2,352
This happens a lot in animation.
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Female 708
Everything I know is a lie!
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Male 959
Its pretty simple... Walt Disney died in 1966. The Aristocats was the first cartoon feature after he died. His brother Roy died in 1971. The second post-Walt and first post-Roy cartoon feature was Robin Hood. Most of these clips came from from these two movies. Basically novelty, ideas and above all standards had slipped
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Male 123
I worked for Warner Bros Animation for a couple of years. (Mucha Lucha, Teen Titans, Legion of Superheroes, Batman Beyond, Etc.) Recycling is a very standard part of all animation production, even today. If you want to see the all time most ridiculous example of cost cutting watch an old He-Man episode. It`s 90 percent recycled shots of single figures reacting, punching, talking etc. If they only showed one characted they could reuse the same scene for any situation. We were just too excited to buy the toys to notice.
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Female 169
This makes my childhood cry
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Male 296
Lol, making fun of Disney for this, look at all the reposts IAB goes through.
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Female 547
I always knew Baloo and Little John had something in common. You know, besides being bears.
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Male 1,067
Old but interesting never the less.
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Male 464
Repost!
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Male 3,285
If something works perfectly, Why change it?
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Male 955
Back in the day they still had to draw each cell, it`s more on the efficiency side of things than being lazy. If they`re still doing it today on the other hand, that`s being lazy.
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Male 699
interesting
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Male 900
even the new princess and the frog movie is guilty of this.
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Male 509
repost? I`ve defnately seen this before, but I`m not sure whether or not it was on here though...
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Male 120
Peeloos12-"Well they didn`t actually copy plots/story-lines, or whatever, so I see nothing wrong with this. It`s just efficiency, really."

Not to mention the amount of money on ink and printing they must have saved.
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Male 15,510
"I gotta say I`m with ya on that one! I wouldn`t care so much about reposts if once in a while they would post some of the links that I suggest!"

Here is the repostlink, although in this particular case, the original isnt working anymore
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Male 15,510
More examples here
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Female 838
clumsyhans

I gotta say I`m with ya on that one! I wouldn`t care so much about reposts if once in a while they would post some of the links that I suggest!
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Male 15,510
`shopped
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Male 258
I remember noticing these "deja vu`s". There`s a lot more of them. Jungle book - Sword in the stone / moggly - Wart for example
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Female 527
i`ve actually noticed a couple of these from two other movies.
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Female 4,039
I`ve never noticed that - but I have noticed it in Bugs Bunny cartoons. I`m cool with it.
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Male 350
Lol, I especially love the grabbing and chasing scenes in the late part of the video.
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Male 3,819
And yeah, I`d imagine back in those days, using the old cells laying around the studio to get the right gesture was a lot easier than starting from scratch. Who knows? Maybe they were all the same culprit.
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Male 2,688
COPYPASTA!

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Female 14
wow....ive NEVER seen this before....
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Male 3,819
Well they didn`t actually copy plots/storylines, or whatever, so I see nothing wrong with this. It`s just efficiency, really.
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Female 839
That`s brilliant! I never noticed any of these!
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Male 372
Its not really being lazy, it takes a lot of time to draw that stuff....i assume, i really have no clue but... oh well. If we`re gonna bitch about anything to do with disney I`m sure we can find something better than animation duplicates.
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Female 101
its not really a copy paste if they had to draw it again, its just the same gestures....like no ones ever done the same dance as someone else.
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Male 4,867
cheap ass disney
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Male 145
Ugh. I realize everybody is going to say this, but I might as well start the whiny-parade.

Seriously. This has been posted waaaaaaaaay too many times. Tis very old. :/
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Male 92
Well, if all the characters studied at the Disney School of Dance, of course they`ll look the same.
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Female 3,574
eh. I don`t see a problem with this.

Also, some didn`t look at that similar at all.

The real crime is the background music of this video.
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Female 2,927
as if nobody knew about it.
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Male 246
Link: <CTRL><C> / <CTRL><V> - Keys to Disney`s Success! [Rate Link] - How the lazy animators at Disney copy/pasted their movies to success.
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