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  1. Profile photo of RaynDrop
    RaynDrop Female 18-29
    665 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 5:27 am
    Link: These Are The Billboards On UK Busses - All aboard the... atheist bus?
  2. Profile photo of billy-bawb
    billy-bawb Male 18-29
    331 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:11 am
    it would be funnier if real, this is from a sign generator http://ruletheweb.co.uk/b3ta/bus/
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    wyngit Male 18-29
    153 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:11 am
    there`s a sliver of truth though
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    IRockYeah Male 40-49
    2619 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:14 am
    oh god. I can hear the fingers of thousands of outraged americans about to unleash hell on the interwebs
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    Luistom Male 18-29
    133 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:17 am
    It`s funny cos it`s true.
  6. Profile photo of Asspenny
    Asspenny Male 18-29
    1348 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:18 am
    zing
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    mykunter Male 40-49
    2424 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:20 am
    Wow. Nice.
  8. Profile photo of tainteddeity
    tainteddeity Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 8:22 am
    Any real scientist is looking at that and cringing.
    Science flew the 9/11 highjackers into the building too and many scientists are religious.

    Stupid bus sticker.
  9. Profile photo of BrokenJohn
    BrokenJohn Male 18-29
    464 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:23 am
    The sign makes a good point...
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    sponged Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 8:23 am
    lol thats great :D
  11. Profile photo of lostinkorea
    lostinkorea Female 30-39
    3727 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:24 am
    Love it! I am sure this pic will cause an unnecessary religious debate that that really won`t benefit anyone but hey, I guess it cures boredom. I`ll begin:

    If there was a magical man in the sky that is there to watch over us, then why do we have so much suffering of mankind? Why is there such a huge gap between the "haves" and the "have nots"?
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    belunan Male 30-39
    1507 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:24 am
    Ouch. LMAO
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    MildCorma Male 18-29
    496 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:24 am
    Hooray for England! Where the government isn`t made up of people that think the world is 6000 years old, and free speech is actually allowed.
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    pip-pip666 Female 18-29
    420 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:26 am
    Ooooooh controversial! and a bit pointless.
  15. Profile photo of MildCorma
    MildCorma Male 18-29
    496 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:28 am
    The actual bus sign reads

    "there is probably no god, now stop worrying and enjoy yourself"

    Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7813812.stm
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    YLE Female 18-29
    961 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:29 am
    LMAO high fives british
  17. Profile photo of tainteddeity
    tainteddeity Male 18-29
    848 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:29 am
    And what "good point" does this make, BrokenJohn?
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    pui Female 18-29
    3574 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:32 am
    I`m pretty sure this is fake lol
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
    7470 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:32 am
    damn, does this mean we are going to have another atheist vs. religious war on IAB?
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    SherbertFizz Female 18-29
    277 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:33 am
    `Any real scientist is looking at that and cringing.
    Science flew the 9/11 highjackers into the building too and many scientists are religious.

    Stupid bus sticker.`

    Actually, I believe it means the motive behind the act, and the bus makes a fair point, without science, we would still be living in huts and dying of the common cold, without religion we would take life in our own hands and not rely on a `guy` in the sky.
  21. Profile photo of deltaumarcus
    deltaumarcus Male 18-29
    1958 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:33 am
    I have a twisted sense of humor, but dang.


    @Lostinkorea God gave us free will. We have the choice to make others suffer. As for the "haves" and the "have nots" the answer is simple. The "haves" aren`t drating lazy and actually work for their money
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    green_batman Female 18-29
    728 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:35 am
    This is an awful way to make your point. It is clearly using emotional appeal. As I just explained in the Intelligence2 thread, it`s a poor way to convince other people of your point of view.
  23. Profile photo of lostinkorea
    lostinkorea Female 30-39
    3727 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:39 am
    Why is it that if I claim that the keyboard, I’m typing this on, regularly turns into green cheese from the planet Krypton, then everyone will call me insane, but if someone claims that the bread they are eating and the wine they are drinking are turning into the flesh and blood of a guy born of a virgin, who is his own father, and who rose from the dead 2000 years ago, then he’s called a Catholic and should be respected for his faith?
  24. Profile photo of lostinkorea
    lostinkorea Female 30-39
    3727 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:40 am
    Free Will
  25. Profile photo of tainteddeity
    tainteddeity Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 8:40 am
    @SherbertFizz
    Regardless, it`s still unscientific in its application.

    One instance of religion causing a plane crash does not represent religion as a whole.
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    SherbertFizz Female 18-29
    277 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:50 am
    @tainteddeity
    The 9/11 incident is VERY far from being the first terrorist act based on religion. Look at Northern Ireland.
  27. Profile photo of tainteddeity
    tainteddeity Male 18-29
    848 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:51 am
    But this billboard doesn`t say `terrorist act` does it?
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    emzrok Female 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 8:57 am
    Oh poo, I actually love this
  29. Profile photo of SherbertFizz
    SherbertFizz Female 18-29
    277 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 8:58 am
    Once again, we`re focusing on the motive behind the act, not the act in itself.
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    03swalker Male 18-29
    60 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:10 am
    THIS IS NOT REAL.
    Repeat.
    THIS IS NOT REAL
    It is from a sign generator, and is thus a fake.
  31. Profile photo of tainteddeity
    tainteddeity Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 9:13 am
    And I`m focusing on the sign (fake or otherwise) because, you know, that`s what I was commenting on originally ; )
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4017 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:14 am
    Ooooooh, but its not "too soon," 9/11 was awhile ago now.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 9:18 am
    that`s pretty good, even if it is fake.
  34. Profile photo of Francakes
    Francakes Female 18-29
    157 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:22 am
    What! Ireland committed acts of terrorism based on English occupation and control of their land. They were angry about not having their independence.
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    Francakes Female 18-29
    157 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:24 am
    I`ve got one!!!

    "Men drive cars onto roads, women drive cars into buildings."

    I have one about Mexicans too. Should we keep going?
  36. Profile photo of Webz
    Webz Male 18-29
    542 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:25 am
    "The 9/11 incident is VERY far from being the first terrorist act based on religion. Look at Northern Ireland."

    This winds me up so much. I live in Northern Ireland. Let me tell you, the troubles were NOT based on religion, they very much political. It was about those who sided with the Unionists in order to stay a part of the British Empire for clear ECONOMIC advantages, and those who sided with the Nationalists because they felt Northern Ireland rightfully belonged to Ireland and wanted completely rid of all British presence. Sure, there were some religious fears that the catholic majority in NI would be discriminated against, but to say it was based on religion is just believing the bullpoo mask that the terrorists created around themselves. The terrorists may have claimed they were doing it for religious reasons, but they were only trying to protect their own political interests.

    Most religious people were urging both sides to stop the fighting.
  37. Profile photo of Francakes
    Francakes Female 18-29
    157 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:25 am
    Sorry, my point is that blanket statements aren`t really fun.
  38. Profile photo of tainteddeity
    tainteddeity Male 18-29
    848 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:30 am
    Francakes is cool.
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    sweetrebelnc Female 18-29
    847 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:33 am
    bwhhahahahahahahaa thats awesome!!!!!!!! IVE BEEN SAYING THAT FOR YEARS!!!!!!
  40. Profile photo of tedgp
    tedgp Male 30-39
    3287 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:39 am
    Webz, they are indeed religious, AND political. I suggest you actually research your countries history and not just listen to what the people around you say.
  41. Profile photo of tainteddeity
    tainteddeity Male 18-29
    848 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:42 am
    @tedgp
    Putting aside the arrogance required to lecture somebody about their own country, Wikipedia largely agrees with Webz.
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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
    3369 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:52 am
    deltaumarcus
    Male, 18-29, Western US
    2093 Posts Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:33:33 AM
    I have a twisted sense of humor, but dang.


    @Lostinkorea God gave us free will. We have the choice to make others suffer. As for the "haves" and the "have nots" the answer is simple. The "haves" aren`t drating lazy and actually work for their money
    -------------

    Your full of crap. here`s why!
    Millions have starved in Ethiopia (as a single example) vs Paris Hilton, a heiress party girl who got a little bit richer for sucking a sausage.

    Whats yer excuse for that? The Etheopians didnt work but Paris digs over the earth till her hands bleed everyday? If yer gonna spout BS at least spout plausable BS!
    Lost nailed it...your just gaving vauge ideals applicible to the little corner of the world YOU live in!
  43. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10441 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:54 am
    The "haves" aren`t drating lazy and actually work for their money

    Tell that to the Zimbabweans.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10441 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:54 am
    Looks like maddog beat me to it!

    Oh well...

    I still think the atheist bus is cool.
  45. Profile photo of The_Maddog
    The_Maddog Male 30-39
    3369 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:55 am
    @ lostinkorea

    According to a recent survey, 82% of Americans think "god" helps them on a daily basis.

    That scares the crap out of me! A whole country thats brainwashed itself into beliving its own bull!
  46. Profile photo of Webz
    Webz Male 18-29
    542 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 9:59 am
    @tedgp

    The point is I DON`T listen to what the people around me are saying. My opinions are actually very different from most people who live here who DID listen to what others were saying, and got caught up in the idea that this was some sort of religious battle. Religion was just used as a tool by the terrorists to bring out the emotion in people so they would gain support for their own POLITICAL interests.

    Also, I`m not originally from here (but have lived here most of my life), and I guess that`s why I can look at the situation differently and not get caught up some false idea that I should be fighting for my religious rights.

    Also, I`m a History student doing Irish history so, you know, there`s that.
  47. Profile photo of The_Maddog
    The_Maddog Male 30-39
    3369 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 10:05 am
    Webz.

    It`s as much political is it is religious. Dont try to claim otherwise!
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2010 at 10:09 am
    * EPIC WIN!!! *
    * EPIC WIN!!! *
    * EPIC WIN!!! *
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9308 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 10:11 am
    Ohhhhhh...that`s in poor taste.
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    SherbertFizz Female 18-29
    277 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 10:18 am
    Webz I understand that it`s also about politics, but if you want to look into it, so was 9/11. And for the record I was born in Northern Ireland, and have a LOT of family still there, and my cousin was badly beaten for being Catholic and entering a Protestant area, so just for the record I`m not talking blindly.
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 10:30 am
    deltaumarcus Male, 18-29, Western US 2093 Posts Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:33:33 AM
    I have a twisted sense of humor, but dang.
    @Lostinkorea God gave us free will. We have the choice to make others suffer. As for the "haves" and the "have nots" the answer is simple. The "haves" aren`t drating lazy and actually work for their money
    _____________________________

    Your very last sentence has to be the most idiotic, asinine and mindless bullpoo I have heard in quite a while. Here`s my advice to you. Leave your house and get from behind your computer monitor every once in a while and go out into the REAL world. There are people who catch bad breaks and others who are fortunate to be born into the "right" family (i.e Bush Jr.). That doesn`t make them hardworking, it makes them LUCKY. And how does innocent children fall into your equation? That is ALL I have to say to you...typical "Christian"!
  52. Profile photo of sbeelz
    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 10:43 am
    Fail: I`ve NEVER been to the moon, nor have 99.999999% of the people on this planet.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 10:49 am
    "Fail: I`ve NEVER been to the moon, nor have 99.999999% of the people on this planet."

    WIN: Science makes it possible for you to make dumb comments on the internet. Religion does not.
  54. Profile photo of Mantolwen
    Mantolwen Female 18-29
    387 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 10:51 am
    Wow. Seriously. Since when have science and religion been incompatible? Religion inspires curiosity, and science provides answers. But not every answer.
  55. Profile photo of Webz
    Webz Male 18-29
    542 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 10:52 am
    @Maddog

    I will claim otherwise! I`ve already given my reasoning. The nationalists were fighting for freedom from British Oppression, the Unionists were fighting to remain a part of the British empire for economic reasons. Those were the two main causes. I`m not saying they were the only causes, there were some minor ethnic and, yes, religious ones, but they were the main ones. Through the conscription crisis, the poor British handing to the Easter Rising which created Irish martyrs leading to the rise of support for extremist groups like Sinn Fein tensions increased more and more and eventually erupted into voilence. The religious overtone was used simply because it was the most visible dividing line between the two communities and the easiest way to gain support.

    @Sherbert Fizz

    I`m sorry to hear about your cousin, man, but I`d be willing to bet the bastards that attacked him didn`t attend church on a sunday, read the bible, or even beleive in God at all.
  56. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 10:53 am
    Maddog: "your just gaving vauge ideals applicible to the little corner of the world YOU live in!"

    Did you really type this, or did your cat walk across your keyboard?
  57. Profile photo of KeePay
    KeePay Male 18-29
    494 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 10:56 am
    "Ohhhhhh...that`s in poor taste."
    ------------
    I thought the same exact thing, Nidonemo.
  58. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 10:57 am
    "Wow. Seriously. Since when have science and religion been incompatible? Religion inspires curiosity, and science provides answers. But not every answer."

    Incorrect: The facts are that science provides more answers than you can count and those that science has not answered yet, will be in the future given enough time and resources. However, it is funny you should say science does not answer all questions when religion cannot answer one. Not one answer to any valid question in the history of all religions has been answered by religion. Why?? Because that would be scientific.
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    wake_n_bake Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:00 am
    forum argument on religion! woohoo, you`re all wasting your time : D
  60. Profile photo of The_Maddog
    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:06 am
    @ Webz

    "The nationalists were fighting for freedom from British Oppression, the Unionists were fighting to remain a part of the British empire for economic reasons."

    True...but it`s equally true to state that the N. Irish Protestants dont want to live under catholic law (Something thats causing problems with the so called "blasphemy laws" in Southern Ireland right now).

    Your ignoring the religions part and just apinting over it with your "nationlist" views.
    It may not have allways been equal in reason between the polotics and religion but it is now!
  61. Profile photo of darkmoth
    darkmoth Male 18-29
    69 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 11:13 am
    i dont know about about that, i mean, nasa is preparing for it, i mean, look it up, astronauts on the moon is yesterday, walkin on mars is the next feat. and plus, i mean, it is religions fault that hundreds of people died and that others were brainwashed into it, how would you feel if some1 decided to shoot ya in the head?? :D
  62. Profile photo of Joshyboy989
    Joshyboy989 Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:14 am
    Hahaha! I love these adverts!
  63. Profile photo of Webz
    Webz Male 18-29
    542 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 11:17 am
    @Maddog

    I guess we`ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. I`ve said before, Religion was certainly a factor, but it`s often made out to be the main one, when it most certainly is not. I did a history essay on this earlier in the year, and the conclusion most of the class came to was that it was mostly political, covered in a religious cloak, because that made people more emotional and patriotic. I`m still convinced that if religion really mattered to any of these people, they wouldn`t have been murdering each other, because the Bible clearly says not to do that and I`m not changing my stance on that, But here`s something interesting to think about:

    "Your ignoring the religions part and just apinting over it with your "nationlist" views"

    My views probably are a little more nationalist in that I believe Ireland had a right to independence. But here`s the kicker. I`m a protestant, I attend a Methodist church. That just goes to show ho
  64. Profile photo of gorgack2000
    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:18 am
    As I`ve said before, I`m an atheist and I hate groups like this.

    So what if people believe in God? Providing they don`t force it on other people then what`s wrong with it?
  65. Profile photo of Webz
    Webz Male 18-29
    542 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 11:19 am
    ^how political reasons have more to do with it than religious ones. And as I said to SherbertFizz, those people he mentioned claimed to be Protestant, but I sincerely doubt they were religious at all.

    I`ve got coursework to do, I`m outta here.
  66. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:21 am
    Absolutely true.

    Assuming: Science invented the Rocket, but not the Plane, which was invented by Religion.

    No?

    Ah, then Science is the reason behind going to the moon, and not a tool to take them there. (Nothing to do with Russians).

    No?

    Ah... then... Oh I get it. You have an idea. This supports it. Therefore it is "win". Gotcha, sorry I went all interjecty with sense and whatnot, please, carry on.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:23 am
    Incidentally, seriously, this is shopped.
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    ElMustache Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:32 am
    religion flies you into buildings. is that a 9/11 reference i detect? because its totally subtle. lol.
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    Slmmhmmr161 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:34 am
    Gorgack, religious tolerance breeds religious extremism.

    No religion, no extremists.
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    kribbe Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:35 am
    how funny it might seem id say it`s too soon
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:35 am
    Religion is funny....
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    B_BoyGH3 Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:45 am
    @ElMustache
    "Is that a 9/11 reference..."

    No, to everyone except the americans it`s an 11/9 reference
  73. Profile photo of keith2
    keith2 Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:54 am
    allah ackbar!!
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    7991687 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:56 am
    LMFAO I Love my country....
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    March 21, 2010 at 12:04 pm
    This is the actual campaign. That is shopped.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist_Bus_Campaign
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    GirlieMutant Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 12:12 pm
    Oh no! xD
  77. Profile photo of The_Maddog
    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 12:50 pm
    Lol @ Baalthazaq

    Another troll post from him!

    " Baalthazaq
    Male, 18-29, Asia
    2845 Posts Sunday, March 21, 2010 11:21:59 AM
    Absolutely true.

    Assuming: Science invented the Rocket, but not the Plane, which was invented by Religion. "

    Wait, what? So..The Wright brothers sat and prayed till the secret of flight was given to them by god then?

    Really...why do you continue to post?
  78. Profile photo of npdarren
    npdarren Male 18-29
    602 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 1:07 pm
    hrm...I don`t agree with Atheist propaganda for the simple reason that it becomes a fad. If you come to the realization that there might not be a god, it should be something you worked out yourself, not because a billboard told you.
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    kirkles Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:10 pm
    HAHA! They forgot the part where science led us to eugenics and the murder of 6 million people! Whoops!
  80. Profile photo of mluther
    mluther Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:27 pm
    God is the reason we can fly to the moon for he was the author of physics. What other explination is there for the laws of physics?
  81. Profile photo of debauchery
    debauchery Female 18-29
    44 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 1:27 pm
    it never fails, IAB.

    Stirring up the same old religion/atheism debate.

    Some of the crazy comments are more interesting than the posts, though.
  82. Profile photo of draakshadow
    draakshadow Female 18-29
    8 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 1:28 pm
    Science didn`t lead to the murder of 6 million people. Hitler did.
    Just because you can stab someone with a knife, it doesn`t make the knife itself evil.

    If you can stick religious slogans on buses, you can also stick atheist ones.
  83. Profile photo of Mornaf
    Mornaf Male 18-29
    820 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Assuming: Science invented the Rocket, but not the Plane, which was invented by Religion.

    No?

    Ah, then Science is the reason behind going to the moon, and not a tool to take them there. (Nothing to do with Russians).

    No?

    That makes no damn sense.
    if that`s what you think the message from this (shopped) sign says..., that`s just sad
  84. Profile photo of sourkrauter
    sourkrauter Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:37 pm
    as far a religion goes, i think the world is going to go to hell no matter what "god" we choose to worship or not. same goes for politics, the world is f**ked no matter who we vote for
  85. Profile photo of npdarren
    npdarren Male 18-29
    602 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 1:38 pm
    "What other explination is there for the laws of physics?"

    This kind of logic is what I find most annoying: You don`t understand something so you just refer upwards, you say "God did it" and move on. Look up "God of the gaps" and you`ll know exactly what I`m talking about.
  86. Profile photo of slayer50515
    slayer50515 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:39 pm
    "Kirkles, you forgot the part that people don`t kill in the name of science. Yes, science provides many of the mediums for destruction, but it`s often times religion or politics that utilizes those mediums and causes the destruction. Science causes progress and religion causes destruction, that`s the point of this post."
    Precisely. Science creates the technology to build and destroy. It is the choice of men to decide which way they will use it.
    To summarize what Carl Sagan once said (cannot find the video at the moment):
    The same technology to build nuclear weapons is the same technology that allows us to travel out into space and study other planets to understand our own. It is our choice what to use this technology for, as though a God has offered us two choices; Destroy ourselves or explore other worlds.
    ---
    I do not think you would blame the "God" in his example, so why blame science?
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    Wiggle1111 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:42 pm
    It doesn`t argue that god makes you into an extremist lunatic, it argues that religion does.

    I believe in god, I am not religious.
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    mluther Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:43 pm
    npdarren: Stop lumping all religions, current and past, together. Sure the catholics of old held the crusades and the muslim extremists are being extreme, that doesn`t mean you should say that all religion is bad for everything bad that any religous person has done. if you do you should at least talk about all the good stuff religion has done instead of just being selective. Alright this is getting long winded.
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    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:45 pm
    zomg as soon as you mention even the word religion,or science, people go nuuuuuts in here.
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    mluther Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    i understandthat magnatism is due to protons (made up of quarks which give it it`s posative charge) and electrons but what do you think made it this way? The big bang can`t design atractive forces, gravity, time, light, photons (just kiddin)........
    One thing I don`t like is when people give credit to random chance when it should be given to a designer.
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    mluther Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:49 pm
    You know that`s right pink.
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    npdarren Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:49 pm
    mluther, name me one good thing any religion has ever done that a non-religious person or group couldn`t do and maybe I`ll recognize their contributions.
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    npdarren Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:51 pm
    On the other side of the coin, I could name quite a few evil things religion has done that a non-religious group couldn`t do.
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    slayer50515 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 1:56 pm
    "I believe in god, I am not religious."
    wat

    "zomg as soon as you mention even the word religion,or science, people go nuuuuuts in here."
    Haha yeah. It`s great if you like to get your post number up though. Plus sometimes the posts are so crazy I cant help but laugh :)
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    npdarren Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 2:00 pm
    "One thing I don`t like is when people give credit to random chance when it should be given to a designer."

    Again, you`re making the common assumption that because science hasn`t pieced together a complete understanding of something that it must be a designer or God responsible. I don`t think anything is random chance, and I also don`t think you should make the leap to God because we don`t currently understand everything. Referring upwards only adds one step anyways, and any question you can pose of the universe you should also be able to pose of a god.
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    Asticler Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 2:04 pm
    i understandthat magnatism is due to protons (made up of quarks which give it it`s posative charge) and electrons but what do you think made it this way? The big bang can`t design atractive forces, gravity, time, light, photons (just kiddin)........
    One thing I don`t like is when people give credit to random chance when it should be given to a designer.

    The designer was my massive set of balls.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 2:20 pm
    "The designer was my massive set of balls."

    WIN
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    Asticler Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 2:20 pm
    Hmmm.

    So what`s wrong with this billboard?

    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, right?

    Religion is kooky, but it`s not going to run people into walls. If anything, religion is a good thing. Maybe not when they was straight murdering fools for questioning "God" during the inquisition, but take a look and you`ll realize that religion actually does help with... well... a lot of things.

    But still, Atheism has science to back it`s poo up and makes a ton more sense.

    By the way, I`m not on either side. I worship a three headed vajeen monster that lives under my bathroom rug.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 2:24 pm
    Assuming: Science invented the Rocket, but not the Plane, which was invented by Religion.

    No?

    Ah, then Science is the reason behind going to the moon, and not a tool to take them there. (Nothing to do with Russians).

    No?


    Alright baalthazaq, please enlighten us as to how you`d get to the moon without science.

    Perhaps you could also indicate where on the bus it says that religion invented fight.
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    kirkles Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 2:30 pm
    "Kirkles, you forgot the part that people don`t kill in the name of science. Yes, science provides many of the mediums for destruction, but it`s often times religion or politics that utilizes those mediums and causes the destruction. Science causes progress and religion causes destruction, that`s the point of this post."

    So, basically you`re saying that science may be the logical cause for a catastrophic mindset, like eugenics, but since people don`t say "in the name of science, I kill you" there`s somehow a disconnect? If I believe that god wants me to kill someone and so I do, is it only the fault of religion if I proclaim my intent before committing murder?

    Still, your point is salient. People can commit atrocities because they believe that science told told them to. They can also do amazing things like explore and cure disease. Similarly, religious minded people sometimes destroy buildings and murder people. They also paint Sistine Chape
  101. Profile photo of ElSombrero
    ElSombrero Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 2:32 pm
    That makes no sense.

    And for the record, I am officially using the word "God" as a synonym for "Universe".

    That will shut people up about the pledge of allegience.
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    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 2:43 pm
    Anyone taking this literally is a tool that needs to leave the site forever.

    The point is that Science gets poo done that helps people. Religion gives a reason to hurt people. No, I`m not saying Religion built the plane or that flying to the moon is extremely helpful, but those examples fit the phrase they`re using.
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    Tonyjet Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 2:43 pm
    yeah 50 percent of Uk is atheist, so is not really that offensive to its targeted audience..

    REligion is the root of all evil..
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 2:55 pm
    If I believe that god wants me to kill someone and so I do, is it only the fault of religion if I proclaim my intent before committing murder?

    Yes ...Well, if there was no religion, you wouldn`t have had any reason to commit murder.

    People can commit atrocities because they believe that science told told them to.

    "Science told me to kill him". I`m just going to laugh at that, and not bother properly responding...
    hahaha! haha! haha hahahaa!! hahaa! ha! HA! haaa...
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    Puddingbrood Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 3:17 pm
    @kirkles

    Michelango was forced to paint the Sistine chapel, the popes abused their powers to make him do whatever they wanted.
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    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 3:18 pm
    kirkles: Eugenics is the science behind improving the human race through selective breeding. First, I don`t see how that`s as bad as blowing up towers full of people, because it doesn`t involve directly killing people. Second, it`s a scientific approach to what essentially boils down to racism and intolerance. Who do you think are the most intolerant people on Earth? Right, religious people.
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    Puddingbrood Male 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 3:24 pm
    Interesting fact: Intelligent people are less likely to believe in god.

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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2010 at 3:48 pm
    Puddingbrood - Im intelligent then, Whooop!!
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    Vindictive Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 4:02 pm
    ". Who do you think are the most intolerant people on Earth? Right, religious people."

    yeah. they`re tolerant of everyone who`s not gay, their race, their religion, and living their way of life.
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    Decor Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    That`s brilliant! Made me laugh
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    LoveMexicola Female 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 4:50 pm
    I`ve seen these buses a couple of months back xD They have some other good slogans, but I just can`t remember any right now.
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    AnInsomniac Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 4:52 pm
    I really did Lmao
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    Heureux Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2010 at 5:18 pm
    "Who do you think are the most intolerant people on Earth? Right, religious people."

    Homophobes hate about 10% of humanity, since about 10% of humans are gay or lesbian.

    But, since most humans are religious, 90% or more depending on the study,

    so atheists hate 90% of humanity, making atheists the most intolerant people on Earth.
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    Heureux - You do know that 110% of stats are wrong 111% of the time??
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    ferdyfred Male 40-49
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    March 21, 2010 at 5:39 pm
    Ohh here is another one, pasted over the xmas period,

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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 5:43 pm
    But, since most humans are religious, 90% or more depending on the study,

    so atheists hate 90% of humanity, making atheists the most intolerant people on Earth.

    ...It`s perfect. I now have something to piss all the atheists at once on Yahoo Answers
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 5:53 pm
    I think their site has been hacked.
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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 5:56 pm
    Well, the trolls anyways.
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    util Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 6:04 pm
    `so atheists hate 90% of humanity`

    yeah right.
  120. Profile photo of npdarren
    npdarren Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 6:05 pm
    "But, since most humans are religious, 90% or more depending on the study,

    so atheists hate 90% of humanity, making atheists the most intolerant people on Earth. "

    Following that logic, you could be more selective and say that Christians hate 99% of humanity if you include the differences among the various sects. How many different sects are there? Over a hundred? And you hate them all because they think differently than you.

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    npdarren Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 6:08 pm
    The only people I hate are the extremists, and that hate wasn`t taught to me by any demagogical troop. I think Atheists are more inclined to be against ideas rather than hate people. So saying Atheists hate 90% of humanity is quite offensive and untrue.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 6:19 pm
    Following from npdarren`s comment:
    Has anyone ever considered that Christians make up 1/3 of the world`s population?
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    vfr4 Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 6:29 pm
    Yah there are some of those in Canada too.
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    green_batman Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 6:37 pm
    The Maddog & Mornaf: You both missed the point. He was intentionally providing false statements to highlight the logical fallacy in the bus sign.

    Science invented both the rocket and the plane, but the sign attaches the rocket to science and the plane to religion. The flight to the moon was both scientifically and politically significant, so the line "science flies you to the moon" isn`t exactly accurate because there was more at play than just science. He is pointing out that the sign oversimplifies and fails to use parallelism properly.
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    Hiromi Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 7:03 pm
    Buuurrrrrrrrrnnnnnn.
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    TCullen23 Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 7:14 pm
    I`m in love with this bus :D <3
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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 7:19 pm
    @ green_batman

    False message or strawman argument and incorrect context as is his usual game?


    The sign (false as it acctually is) and how you interpret it (or Baals typically insane post about science) are whats at play. Baal intrepts the sign as rocket good, plane bad but both from science. Thats not the message I`m getting.

    It`s nothing to do with the acctual "vehicals" used but the acts of what each system has done.

    Science "flies" us to the moon. No mention of rocket.

    Religion flies us into buldings. No mention of planes either.

    The message I got was?
    Science can take us to the moon. Religion killed on 9/11.

    It could have easily said, Science seeks medical cures, Religion perpetuates the spread of AIDs (I`m looking at you mr Pope).


    Baals just twisting and deflecting from the real meaning of the fake message (ha) in the fake sign like he has done in every single religious thread
  128. Profile photo of The_Maddog
    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 7:21 pm
    But...ultimetly there is no point!

    This is the internet. No one gives a monkey. I just take great pleasure in proving religious psychobable wrong!
  129. Profile photo of ElDavo
    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 7:33 pm
    Heureux: Atheists aren`t intolerant of religious people, we are intolerant of religions. If you saw Steven Fry`s speech posted on IAB yesterday, you`d know exactly what I mean.

    I respect a person willing to put their faith in something, I just don`t respect taking advantage of that to, say, have someone fly a plane into a building.
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    IssaTheFiend Female 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 7:36 pm
    Oh snap.
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    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 7:42 pm
    Argument to nobody in particular, written only because I`m bored:

    You can ignore the "Science" half of this argument, because that`s not really even relevant. The real point is that religion doesn`t help people, it hurts them.

    Religion is a force that, thus far, has caused more hate and division in the world than anything else in the history of anything. The Crusades, religious genocides, the whole 9/11 thing... religion does nothing but cause pain in the world.

    If you think I`m wrong, prove that religion has done something good in the world. Anything at all. Post examples. Let`s see if it can outweigh what I just listed.
  132. Profile photo of ElDavo
    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 7:54 pm
    Further:

    Religion has you put your entire confidence in their ability to be correct. They have you base your entire moral system on what they have taught you. Then you force your children to follow blindly, and the end result is a group of people who blow themselves up for you.

    The whole thing, to me, is exactly the opposite of what they seem to be preaching. That`s why I like being an atheist. I prefer to live thinking there is no afterlife than to think that there is an afterlife, and the people who knew about it and inhabit it are the same ones who caused so much pain and destruction in this world.

    That, to me, would be more depressing than thinking that death is the end.
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    alchemist18 Female 13-17
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    March 21, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    Love it XD
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 8:34 pm
    ROFL, hey religion, get bitch slapped moar okay?
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    wereallboned Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 9:38 pm
    ElDavo it was one of the most influential forces on every culture until the 20th century for America and remains one of the most influential forces in a large percentage of the global population.
    I take my heritage and my culture to heart and to say that religion is wrong would be like saying my way of life is wrong too. I don`t have much faith in a God anymore but religion has shaped how I live now and how I grew up.

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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 10:35 pm
    So much to pick from. I`ll pick on my fellow moderator Deltaumarcus to make it fair.

    why do we have so much suffering of mankind? @Lostinkorea God gave us free will. We have the choice to make others suffer.
    Cancer?

    As for the "haves" and the "have nots" the answer is simple. The "haves" aren`t drating lazy and actually work for their money
    Terribly, embarrassingly simplistic. Tell the African fisherman that he is lazy. I dare you.
  137. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 10:44 pm
    Darnit, now reading over the comments, I`ve been beaten to the punch by many others. Didn`t mean to steal any thunder, you know who you are.
  138. Profile photo of Altaru
    Altaru Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 10:49 pm
    "As for the "haves" and the "have nots" the answer is simple. The "haves" aren`t drating lazy and actually work for their money"

    I think enough people have called bullsh*t on this already, but just throw my hat into the mix for good measure, `kay?

    BTW, Delta, how`s your foot been tasting?

    "Similarly, religious minded people sometimes destroy buildings and murder people. They also paint Sistine Chapel."

    Perhaps... But the Sistine Chapel isn`t putting men on the moon, planning to cultivate planets for human expansion, and researching newer, more efficient ways to farm so we can continue feeding a growing population.

    Truth be told, I`m not involved in most sides of this argument (the very "atheist v. christ" centric debate that it is) as I continue my efforts to try and revive the Norse gods.
  139. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 10:59 pm
    I live in Northern Ireland. Let me tell you, the troubles were NOT based on religion, they very much political.
    Webz, hear you loud and clear. I`m Northern Ireland, born and bred (Carrickfergus).

  140. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 21, 2010 at 10:59 pm
    But my question is: If we didn`t have religion, how would you know who the bad guys are, so you can shoot them? In Northern Ireland, we`re all white, we all speak english, we all drink the same beer. How would you ever know who the enemy was if we didn`t have this artificial man-made religious tribalism that names people who are the same as "different", on the basis of being Catholic or Protestant? Very very slightly different flavours of Christianity. How would you identitify "the enemy"? Hint: You couldn`t, and therefore wouldn`t have an enemy to nailbomb. Usually women and children, cause they`re the ones out doing the shopping.

    -

    "this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." John Adams, Founding Father of the United States of America.
  141. Profile photo of Altaru
    Altaru Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:01 pm
    ""this would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it." John Adams, Founding Father of the United States of America."

    My friend, atheism has been winning the intellectual side since LOOONG before that...

    I can`t find the demotivational poster, so I`ll just type what it says...

    "Is God wiling to prevent evil, but not able?
    The he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able, and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able, nor willing?
    Then why call him God?"
    -Epicurus, in 33 A.D. apparently.
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    Dustbuster19 Male 18-29
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    March 21, 2010 at 11:50 pm
    FACK YEAH!!!
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    zilius Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 12:55 am
    "Is God wiling to prevent evil, but not able?
    The he is not omnipotent.
    Is he able, but not willing?
    Then he is malevolent.
    Is he both able, and willing?
    Then whence cometh evil?
    Is he neither able, nor willing?
    Then why call him God?"

    nice one Altaru.

    religion will not survive in an intellectual debate, as 99.9% of Christians won`t know what they are talking about because all you have to do is hear, shut up, nod your head and believe. you don`t think, you don`t ask questions, its easy to be a Christian. If you think, you would be an atheist.
  144. Profile photo of Reedman
    Reedman Male 13-17
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    March 22, 2010 at 1:29 am
    "religion will not survive in an intellectual debate, as 99.9% of Christians won`t know what they are talking about because all you have to do is hear, shut up, nod your head and believe. you don`t think, you don`t ask questions, its easy to be a Christian. If you think, you would be an atheist. "

    What if you WANT something to believe? What if you don`t want to live life knowing there is nothing after? That`s a pretty dull outlook on things.
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    Nurcowski Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 2:49 am
    i don`t understand why people can`t just get along with the idea of not knowing what happens to you when you die. whether there is an afterlife or not, the fact is it won`t matter until you die.

    i don`t currently believe in any sort of afterlife but who knows maybe i`ll be pleasantly surprised when i kick the bucket.
  146. Profile photo of RecycleElf
    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 2:55 am
    But my question is: If we didn`t have religion, how would you know who the bad guys are, so you can shoot them? In Northern Ireland, we`re all white, we all speak english, we all drink the same beer. How would you ever know who the enemy was if we didn`t have this artificial man-made religious tribalism that names people who are the same as "different", on the basis of being Catholic or Protestant? Very very slightly different flavours of Christianity. How would you identitify "the enemy"? Hint: You couldn`t, and therefore wouldn`t have an enemy to nailbomb. Usually women and children, cause they`re the ones out doing the shopping.

    You sir, is the reincarnation of idiot
  147. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 3:07 am
    Quite simply. I assumed they were using some comparable.

    You cannot (at least not unbiasedly) compare the tool to the reasoning.

    Science is not the motivator for the moon landings. I provided this information in my original post.

    The motivation was competition with the Russians, and the bombing of America by Germany. Those were the motivating factors.

    Not Science.

    The first line is only true if talking about the rocket itself.

    The second line then should talk about the plane. If it is talking about the plane, (I.E. If it is a fair statement), then it must be comparably suggesting religion invented the plane.

    If it is an unfair statement, it can talk about whatever it wants.

    And so can I.

    "Religion gave you science. Science gave you Hiroshima"

    Still unfair..
  148. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 3:16 am
    As for Epicurus:
    I`ve seen that, and it was answered in 202 AD at least.

    The tag line in your demotivational poster ("Atheists, winning since 33AD") should be amended with "And losing since 202AD".

    Should we go on to Pascal`s wager now, or is that a trite old ditty that has been debunked time and time again that Theists should stop harping on about?
  149. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 3:22 am
    Finally, Davy.

    Summary of your point: "How would we know who the enemy was if it wasn`t for religion?"

    You only really have a point in a world of blind telepaths. You are suggesting we identify our enemies by thoughts, but wouldn`t do it another way?

    Do you not know the history of war? Most aren`t religious, even those usually thought of as being so.
  150. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 3:27 am
    SORRY. JUST noticed.

    Altaru, you should really learn to quote properly. John Adams said, and I quote, PROPERLY this time:

    "Twenty times in the course of my late reading have I been on the point of breaking out, "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!!!" But in this exclamation I would have been as fanatical as Bryant or Cleverly. Without religion this world would be something not fit to be mentioned in polite company, I mean hell."

    JOHN ADAMS

    Without tearing his words to shreds to suit my point. The quote in correct context. John Adams thinks you are a fanatic.
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    Hayllee Female 13-17
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    March 22, 2010 at 3:56 am
    Yes, because if you`re an atheist, you`re a science genius with a more open minded train of thought. *sighs* I have no issue if you want to be atheist, but preaching falsehoods (which yes Christians do this as well) is just annoying.
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    wikiwow10 Male 13-17
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    March 22, 2010 at 4:51 am
    One question: Who the hell paid for it?
  153. Profile photo of pui
    pui Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 6:46 am
    wikiwow10, a secular charity in the UK. Except this is not the real billboard. The real one says "There is no God, so stop worrying and enjoy your life" They also did other billboards as part of the campaign.

    Actually, I was hired to design the new website for the Freethought association of Canada, who did the same campaign in Toronto. I am also working on the new "Atheist Community" (does not have a name yet) site for them, so maybe all you Canadian atheists can hang out there when it launches, haha XD
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    Slmmhmmr161 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 6:52 am
    @ Hayllee:

    How is it a falsehood? Most atheists are logical, scientifically-minded people.
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    joejoe92 Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 7:31 am
    i think its ridiculous when people get into arguemnts other this stuff. it is all a matter of opinion, and one persons opinion isnt going to change the others.
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2010 at 7:31 am
    I just noticed that Baalthazaq mostly shows up only in the comments on religious themed posts?

    o_O
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 22, 2010 at 7:37 am
    @ Baal, John Adams has been dead for 200 years. Many of Americas fore fathers would certainly have different opinions had they had the freedoms they set into motion. Any woman claiming immaculate conception in todays world would be put on meds and "Jesus" would be just another name. The mideast could use a John Adams to talk sense to the madness.
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    JaLacaob Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 7:44 am
    Baalthazaq is the pmarren of religion? (I dunno, I haven`t been reading comments much lately.)

    pmarren still around?
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2010 at 7:51 am
    Finally, Davy. Summary of your point: "How would we know who the enemy was if it wasn`t for religion?" You only really have a point in a world of blind telepaths.
    I respectfully disagree Baalthazaq. Grew up in Northern Ireland, so all I have to go on is personal experience.

    Let`s expand the example to include Sunni and Shiite Muslims blowing each other to smears of meat while shopping for tomatoes in Iraq. Let`s play at upscaling. I contend that:

    1) If they were all just "Muslim" (rather than slightly different flavours of Muslim), they wouldn`t know who the bad Muslims were to car-bomb them.
    2) If they were all just "Theists" (rather than slightly different flavours of Theist), they wouldn`t know who the bad theists were to fly planes into their buildings.
    3) If they were all just "people" (rather than slightly different flavours of people), they wouldn`t know who the bad people were to divide them
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 7:55 am
    Concession on the John Adams quote though, I had no idea the larger context of it (I only knew of the part I quoted from googling). Quote-mining disgusts me, I committed that crime unknowingly, cheers for the clear-up.
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    LtFurpie Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2010 at 9:45 am
    Science flies you to other planets, religion jails people that say we revolve around the sun?
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    sjaakwortel Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 10:30 am
    SO MUCH WIN
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    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 1:26 pm
    I know this is rather late, but what the hell. I`m only arguing to soothe my own boredom:

    wereallboned: That`s exactly my point. You`ve based your life on it, to some extent, so it CAN`T be wrong, right? Saying it IS wrong would be a direct insult to you personally. Religious founders set it up that way intentionally. I can`t argue with you, because it`s no longer saying you are wrong on this issue, it`s saying you are wrong about everything.

    Also, saying it`s influential proves nothing if not my actual point. If I asked for a list of influential people in the last century, Hitler and Stalin would both make that list unquestionably. They directly caused the deaths of tens of millions of people, but they were influential in doing so. That was my point. Religion is a force in this world, it just isn`t a good one enough to have my respect.

    Like I said, though, I don`t disrespect you just because you follow a religion.
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    ElDavo Male 18-29
    2149 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    Reedman: Wanting to believe in religion because it gives you hope of an afterlife or whatever is alright. You do your thing, I don`t really care what you believe.

    The point here is that religious leaders take advantage of you wanting to believe in religion. They tell that it takes blowing yourself up to get to "paradise", so of course you`re going to. You`ve led your whole life based on them being right, so why stop now?
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    fishgul69 Female 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 2:19 pm
    wins at life. and nice one there, LtFurpie
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    hwkiller Male 18-29
    490 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:06 pm
    It`s interesting, to me, that people assume that scientists are not religious.

    I wonder how many scientists working on the moon landing were also religious?

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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 22, 2010 at 3:13 pm
    wow! just wow!
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    henryhendrix Male 30-39
    722 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 5:56 pm
    Really npdarren? Who cares?
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    last_ninja Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 6:03 pm
    i am impressed. i wish we could do this in America.
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    srgkoala Male 18-29
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    March 22, 2010 at 6:25 pm
    EPIC WIN!!!!!
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    sandtalker Male 30-39
    49 posts
    March 24, 2010 at 7:23 pm
    Dave, Looking at your Sunni Shiite analogy, there is one flaw... There will ALWAYS be a way found to cause hate. Take a look at any conflict, there is an underlying reason. You talk about Northern Ireland, and how if there were only no religion, there would have been no war. Consider that the protestants were allied with the British and were fighting to become part of GB, while the catholics were of a more nationalistic flavor, and wanted independence. Religion was a reason, yes, but don`t try to sell the conflict as one caused by religion.
    And by the way, true belief in an unprovable is fanatical and wrong; be it a god, or in the refusal to believe in a god...
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    sandtalker Male 30-39
    49 posts
    March 24, 2010 at 7:39 pm
    ElDavo,
    How about these positives:
    Most healthcare for all but royalty for most of humanity has been administered by followers/ preachers of the predominant religion in the area.
    Most religions started as rules to live by to avoid causing "displeasure to the one" which is why one had to wash hands before eating, not eat food like pork or shellfish, or to put aside resources for later.
    How about the fact that religious people give you atheists someone to feel superior to?
    "Atheists aren`t intolerant of religious people, we are intolerant of religions." Thank you for proving that the religion of Atheism is as bad as any other.
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    littlepete50 Male 18-29
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    March 26, 2010 at 8:02 am
    Atheist bus? Common Sense bus.
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    me117 Male 13-17
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    April 8, 2010 at 2:29 am
    I loved the principal of this, atheists from all over the country dontated enough money for these not only appear in London but, all over the uk

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