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    fancylad Male 30-39
    18502 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    Link: Obama`s Health Care Reform Has Hit Facebook - Welp, there goes the world...
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    blckhawk1234 Male 18-29
    518 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 2:41 pm
    I love what parrots youth are today. Just trying to be different.
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    Asspenny Male 18-29
    1348 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 2:42 pm
    ...why would there be a sudden drop in the need for nurses?
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    Luniz82 Male 18-29
    588 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 2:52 pm
    LOL there will be less nurses now? I don`t think the bill is cutting jobs I believe it is creating them.. Maybe nursing would not be so good for someone with such a low IQ.
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    sourkrauter Male 18-29
    895 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 2:55 pm
    *facepalm* just kill me now
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    Kiwigirl2 Female 30-39
    1048 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    So is Obama now going to personally hire nursing staff? Will he move in HR when he`s bored with being President?
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    pui Female 18-29
    3575 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    uh, lol
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    Jaedon Male 18-29
    72 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:04 pm
    I.. honestly don`t get it. I live in England, we have a national hospital care, you pay some tax for it. Why do Americans think it`s a bad idea? To be left dying is preferable to paying a bit in tax?
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    IssaTheFiend Female 18-29
    2354 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:05 pm
    Wow I would not want her to be my nurse.
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    Aquaeous Male 18-29
    425 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:06 pm
    Yes, because healthcare reform clearly means nurses are no longer needed... :\
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    HerColdHands Female 18-29
    471 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:07 pm
    /facepalm^2
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    NickLove Male 18-29
    2 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:08 pm
    wow...
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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
    4376 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:08 pm
    She`s a special kind of stupid isn`t she.
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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
    4376 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:10 pm
    Because Jaed this country is assbackwards and is ruled by people who already have money, already have health insurance, and even a tiny raise in taxes to help those less fortunate is frowned upon because as well all know poor people are poor because they choose to be. If someone can`t afford their dialysis well to damn bad for them i`m going fishing on my yacht.
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    nirosaki Female 18-29
    654 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:11 pm
    I honestly don`t understand why people are so down about the Healthcare system? Enlighten me, please?
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    brownsugar3 Male 18-29
    306 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:12 pm
    i feel ya BlckHawk...all over facebook..people are like ohh man booo!! this health care bill..wen i know for a fact they don`t know what its even about other then someone is losing or gaining money...they really do just wanna sound smart or well informed
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    SephirothA83 Male 18-29
    955 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:12 pm
    People are idiots, if anything there will be an increase in need in all fields of medicine to handle the influx of more people having access to healthcare.

    There`s so many people that right now have paid out the ass for insurance and get denied on fine print and existing conditions that it makes me sick that people actually fight something to have it changed.

    Sure this isn`t a perfect solution but there isn`t one, why if we`re supposedly the `richest` nation in the world do we put greed in front caring for our people.
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    brownsugar3 Male 18-29
    306 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:12 pm
    ...hell i don`t even know what its about lol
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    SomeShoes Male 13-17
    2056 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:12 pm
    failed!
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    BigWaFuu Male 18-29
    1163 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:13 pm
    this is why we need school reform next. Because despite the vast abundance of knowledge that can be found on the internet, everyone is still a friggin idiot.
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    seabass101dg Male 18-29
    478 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:18 pm
    I guess we`ll just have to see what happens...
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25408 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:20 pm
    wow!
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    MrHyde Male 18-29
    494 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:20 pm
    @SephirothA83,

    I agree on all parts except for "People are idiots".
    Idiots or not, people here are blind and usually selfish.
    The 44 million suffered without health insurance and now aren`t in that much a better situation because of this horribly skimmed bill. It`s better then nothing, of course.
    Almost everyone I asked out of that 50+ million gave me the same answer: "I don`t want to pay a dime for some lazy jerk to have health insurance".

    It doesn`t matter that us not-so-fortunate people are forced into poverty if we break an arm, these people won`t pay a dime because somebody who doesn`t deserve it might get the money.

    Let me ask you people something:
    There are three people suffering in the street and need some medicine that you have spare, but you only have enough time to give each of them enough for a cure. There is a chance that one of those three is a fugitive.
    Would you give them the meds or refuse cause one
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    sejseptember Female 18-29
    7 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    this is not even as bad as some of the Facebook battles go. one of the ones i`m following has reached 48 comments of people screaming at each other and calling everyone socialists
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:25 pm
    "special kind of stupid"

    That just about hits the nail perfectly on the head... I couldn`t come up with a better way to put it.
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    TheSharpest Male 18-29
    1768 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:30 pm
    omgz socialism now were liek russia ohnoes
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:30 pm
    MrHyde, No better way of putting it have I seen. People are complaining because they don`t want their money going to other people who may not be deserving. Truth is, those with money want to KEEP their money, so helping out the less fortunate is absolutely out of the question.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
    3483 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:33 pm
    "Almost everyone I asked out of that 50+ million gave me the same answer: "I don`t want to pay a dime for some lazy jerk to have health insurance". "

    Is THAT what all this bullsh*t`s about?

    What about the retirees who`ve always had their health-care through their company, and post-retirement were left with the only options being 1. Nothing or 2. Obscenely priced private insurance?

    Those people busted their ass for however many years, but now that they`ve chosen to enjoy their later years they don`t deserve affordable protection?

    And just think how many of the "lazy" people used to be good, hard-working citizens who`ve suffered due to the economy?

    I don`t know much about this bill, and I`m personally only semi-interested since I have no intention of getting hurt anytime soon, but if that`s seriously the issue at hand here, then WTF is America`s problem?
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    Altaru Male 18-29
    3483 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:36 pm
    I seriously wish I could leave this country...

    Not just some of the time, either.

    I would genuinely rather live in a hell hole, because at least there I wouldn`t have to deal with everyone around me being so blinded by a false-sense of security, and worrying more about their next dollar then their survival...
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    SuperSmash Male 18-29
    3758 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:52 pm
    Altaru, don`t let the door hit you on the way out. Seriously. Leave.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    Socialism/Communism FTW! Everyone will have cars now!



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    npdarren Male 18-29
    602 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    I just want to point out that the U.S is still far behind all other modern Democracies (except Japan for some reason) on the socialism scale. Compared to the rest of the western-world we`re still well within the realm of right-wing capitalists. I think the movement to the left is kinda like the growth of government; it`s pretty much inevitable. The government grows in size because once people get something from the govt. they won`t give it up too easily. So the question isn`t IF we`re moving to the left, but by how much we should be moving., and I think the whole healthcare deal is testimony to that.
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    captainkat Female 13-17
    159 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:55 pm
    one of my facebook friends is pissed off about this solely because the inflation will make mcdonald`s dollar menu become more expensive.
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    littlepete50 Male 18-29
    1359 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    just because the UK, Canadian, and many other european systems of tax fed healthcare have failed miserably.... oh wait on there! they work rather well tbh! bloody right wing americans.
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    Volsunga Male 18-29
    1548 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    @Taylor Stone
    Shouldn`t those who earn their money get to keep it?
    Its not that people don`t want to give to the less fortunate, its that they don`t want to be forced to. There is a big moral difference there. Private charities have done a hell of a lot more to help the less fortunate than the government. with this health care bill, they will be replaced by the bureaucracy that has a track record of failure. This bill is not sustainable, it will run out of funding in about thirty years due to inflation and the mounting debt.
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    clearskies Male 18-29
    85 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:57 pm
    yes this is a lot about money. lots of people wouldn`t understand unless they were in the medical field. it`s hard enough for companies to make money in this state with the recent budget cuts (california) on medical, and retarded insurances paying low prices allowing places like a pharmacy to make $1-2 on every damn prescription. this cuts into the little profit healthcare providers already make. yes, its about money, i do not believe this is the correct solution to solving those in the minority as Altaru was suggesting (those who have worked their butts off and now can`t get coverage).
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    ShadowMoses Male 18-29
    257 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    UGH, people have NO FREAKING CLUE WHAT A COMMA IS!!!
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    matrixie Female 18-29
    718 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:03 pm
    Dramatic much? I`m not even getting into this one I`m just going to sit shaking my head at the general stupidity.
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    chunkymonkie Male 13-17
    670 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:04 pm
    captain kat, at least your dollar menu is a dollar, where i live i have to pay 1.49 for a junior chicken.
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    Loganp3 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:07 pm
    I can`t wait for stupid Americans to realize that right wing rich folk got them right where they want them... I hope this health care reform does more than help those in need of health care. I hope it opens up communication and people start doing the research themselves. One can hope, right?
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    mjfoxman Male 18-29
    336 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:07 pm
    yay were all drated!!!!
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10443 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    American facebook users are stupid.
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:10 pm
    "One can hope, right?"



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    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4007 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:10 pm
    "one of my facebook friends is pissed off about this solely because the inflation will make mcdonald`s dollar menu become more expensive."

    They are just scared to live like the rest of the world, by paying the actual price of stuff.

    I`m just waiting for it to hit The Price is Right. Everybody will underguess all the time hahaha.
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    npdarren Male 18-29
    602 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:12 pm
    Oh, and a big concern from the healthcare bill I have is that they threw in a part about government taking over the responsibility for student loans from the banks. Did anyone else notice/care about that? That means people like me who need financial assistance for college will have to appeal to a public corporation for aid rather than a private one.
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    Ryan22158 Male 18-29
    418 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:13 pm
    Yea! More debt.
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
    1803 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:15 pm
    A lot of govt decisions here in the UK since the end of the second world war have been pretty crap. There`s a few wars we should have left well alone, we shouldn`t have under invested in our railway system nor should we have privatised it (everyone else has looked at us, grimaced and shelved the same plan). We did alright with our nuke power stations but they`re coming to the end of their life span and the UK now has a clean up bill that rivals the bank bail out in terms of cost. The premier league was an alright invention as was standardising the internet, but the NHS ranks well up there.

    It`s ridiculous that in the US it can cost $1,500 to have a fricking tooth taken out in a 20 minute procedure. You can fly from LA to Sydney return for that, and that`s just daft.
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    themonorail Male 18-29
    215 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:30 pm
    funny, my crazy grandmother has the same views.
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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
    3371 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:45 pm
    Can someone ban AnarchistGod for being stupider than a bucket of soapy frogs? He just makes no sense!
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    Aellos Female 18-29
    33 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    Over and over again...I say to all my friends who are also going into nurse, that because of their views that are identical to this: I`m joining the frikin` peace corps when I get my RN. I don`t want to be a nurse for the money, I want it for the job and the experience.

    I`ve been poo like this all over my facebook...
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    Altaru Male 18-29
    3483 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:50 pm
    "Altaru, don`t let the door hit you on the way out. Seriously. Leave."

    Gladly, if the world around me hadn`t effectively f*cked any chances I had of finding a decent job.

    I`m eighteen and I live in BFE, Ohio. Not much to do around here that`ll earn me travel across the oceans and a few months rent wherever I end up.

    Willing to contribute to my "escape the inevitable sh*thole" fund?


    Look, I LOVE the ideals this country was founded upon. Freedom to get ahead in life through working hard.

    But look at what happened.

    This isn`t the United States of America anymore.

    This is the "United States" of Full Control by Fat Bastards Who Were Born Lucky and Never Broke Their Backs in a Hard Days Labor Before.
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    bomberouno Male 18-29
    185 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:57 pm
    Oh god. Why is it that people care so much about debt under Obama, when they were silent when we got into two wars, cut taxes for the wealthy, and went from the biggest surplus ever to the biggest deficit ever, under BUSH. Remember, the bailout was Bush`s policy. I also don`t like the idea of adding to our debt but I feel that if there is anything that is worthy of debt it is healthcare. Oh, and check the CBO`s estimates which says it will reduce our projected national debt in the lng run.
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    itsallfake Male 30-39
    476 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 4:59 pm
    Here`s something people are going to realize sooner than they would like. This country doesn`t contribute to world in the way of producing something that other countries need other than food. And try as we might, other countries just aren`t clambering to buy our food. The only thing the US contributes is money because we buy what we need from the rest of the world. We import a lot more than we export in any field and most the things we make never leave the country. America consumes. It`s what we do. So the question remains, how do americans stay working when production and manufacturing exits the country? The answer is working in industries that provide essential needs to it`s people. Health Care (not insurance) is an industry everyone needs, and buy stimulating that industry (not insurance) we fill a need producing more money. The food industry is another that needs a little reform and a kick in the ass.
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    CapnAwesome Male 18-29
    236 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 5:00 pm
    I heard 10% of americans actually know what the bill says, which I find hilarious. I`m definitely one of 90% group, but still.
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    verinon Male 18-29
    335 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    Anyone who doesn`t understand the bill should just leave. Please. I`m begging you. We don`t need you here. We`re better off without you, in fact.
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    npdarren Male 18-29
    602 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 5:32 pm
    bomberouno, they say it will decrease the debt because of how they propose to pay for it. Aside from any "redistributing the wealth" argument, they plan to pay for it by collecting interest rates on loans that banks usually collect, among other things. I agree with healthcare reform, but not to the extent that it threatens an already suffering sector of the population economically. If we had a budget surplus, this bill would pass no problem, but that`s not the case.
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    intrigid Male 18-29
    914 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 5:36 pm
    @verinon

    I doubt that a single person on the planet understands the entire bill.
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    SomeShoes Male 13-17
    2056 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 5:40 pm
    agreed with intrigid
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    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
    893 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 5:41 pm
    @The_Maddog

    You`re an idiot. It`s not my fault that you don`t understand economics. I was obviously being sarcastic when I said "socialism/communism FTW" because I showed the comparison between systems that embrace capitalism and ones that embrace socialism.

    As for the debt star, I was quoting Loganp3`s comment when he said "One can hope, right?"

    Most people understood that, but not you. You managed to make yourself look like a jackass (no pun intended).
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 5:45 pm
    "I heard 10% of americans actually know what the bill says"

    I doubt that many representatives know exactly everything in the 4000+ page bill. Nothing that huge and convoluted can be good. It`s a mismatched, pasted together mess. It`s also likely to be unconstitutional, Stepping on state`s rights.
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    sirrix Male 18-29
    210 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 5:51 pm
    Guys... this is more likely about the nursing pension reform bill in Florida being voted on today. So, who understands legislation now, children? You should all probably give the comments a rest. It has nothing to do with Obama.
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    Raokin Female 18-29
    456 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 6:08 pm
    sirrix: the girl says "if obama will let me"
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    hi2pi Male 30-39
    736 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 6:09 pm
    grow up people. health care is better than random wars. republicans are trying to keep you in the dark and feed you poop.
  64. Profile photo of Raokin
    Raokin Female 18-29
    456 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 6:12 pm
    My, hi2pi, what a convincing and eloquent argument I see.
  65. Profile photo of sirrix
    sirrix Male 18-29
    210 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 6:24 pm
    Raokin: I can read.
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    Raokin Female 18-29
    456 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 6:31 pm
    Well if she mentions Obama, I can`t see why it wouldn`t have anything to do with him.
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    Farsidedown Male 18-29
    421 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 6:52 pm
    My problem with it all- they`re benefiting the one group they should be screwing: the insurance companies.
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    sirrix Male 18-29
    210 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 6:53 pm
    Because I opined that the purpose of the status post and the "after tonight Laura" comment was about the major Retirement System reform in Florida which is impacting nurses in a big way and has nothing to do with the federal health care legislation. Hence, nothing to do with Obama. That the moron on facebook thinks it has something to do with Obama doesn`t make it so. That was the point; thanks for playing along. Keep trying at life - you`ll get there.
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    panth753 Female 18-29
    9184 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 6:56 pm
    Everyday, I get a new reason I can`t stand Republicans...
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    MrYouKnow Male 13-17
    1081 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 7:28 pm
    drat America, I`m moving to Rapture. :-P
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3435 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 7:38 pm
    Layme.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 7:58 pm
    If you think that all the problems with the US health care system are caused by too little government involvement, you`re not just stupid; you`re short-bus stupid. You shouldn`t be allowed to run around loose inside Wal-mart without a staff attendant let alone be allowed to vote.

    We are so fooked...
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    Bremir Male 18-29
    392 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 8:15 pm
    People acting as though this is the end of the world.

    Only in America.
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    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
    3830 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 8:29 pm
    dude, nurses here still make really good money, and we have awesome health care.

    americans are acting like this is the end of the world. now, when you are dying, you cant get denied treatment!!

    The way some americans are acting is so retarded.
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    billy66bare Male 18-29
    289 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 8:29 pm
    Monday, March 22, 2010 7:28:51 PM
    MrYouKnow "drat America, I`m moving to Rapture"
    awesome.
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    strivejaylen Male 18-29
    196 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 8:42 pm
    wait
    obamas health care plan is getting rid of nurses
    or just going to help those that make 75k or less a year
    ohh no, there is going to be no more nurses
    or si it me, this is how i see people seeing it
  77. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 8:54 pm
    Britain has universal socialised healthcare, America has non-universal privatised healthcare. Now kids, let`s look at some facts.

    1) British doctors get paid more than American doctors.
    2) Healthcare in Britain costs British Citizens around 1/3 of what Americans pay for healthcare, per person, per year.
    3) British healthcare is, broadly speaking, every bit as good as American healthcare. On a few key metrics, such as national average life expectancy, better.
    4) If we`re talking about nursing specifically, the US at last count has 5 nurses per patient. The UK has 6.5. That`s 30% more jobs, not less.

    I could go on. What part of this is not sinking in, America?
  78. Profile photo of slayer50515
    slayer50515 Male 18-29
    988 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 8:55 pm
    "People acting as though this is the end of the world.

    Only in America."
    This.
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    psykoboy264 Male 18-29
    67 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 9:12 pm
    all that`s happening is, People are believing the propaganda that`s being fed to them instead of taking 10mins and looking at the facts...so said people think that the propaganda that`s being fed to them is the facts.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
    4019 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 9:48 pm
    I think the funniest part of this whole healthcare debate is how Republicans ended the debate by repeatedly saying that they - and they ALONE - represented "the will of the people," as if "the people" were all white, tea-party types. Just like how Sarah Palin said she represented the "REAL America."

    They point to polls but ignore the fact that they straight up LIED about what the bill would actually do. (Socialism, Death Panels that "pull the plug on grandma," on and on and on...) Further, now that the bill passed, its clear MOST people have NO IDEA what it will actually do.

    I`m pretty sure "the people" elected DEMOCRATS. Hence Democrats control Congress and the Whitehouse.

    Just wait - remember the story of CHICKEN LITTLE. When the sky ends up NOT falling, people remember who bullshi*ted them. Death panels, psssssh.
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    MrHyde Male 18-29
    494 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 9:54 pm
    @Davymid, I agree with you on every part but #4.

    The U.S has an advantage because they have est. 4 nurses per patients.
    Britian would win if they had either 6 or 7 nurses. 6.5 is very bad, because every patient has to deal with the trauma of a disemboweled nurse in their room.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 10:10 pm
    The U.S has an advantage because they have est. 4 nurses per patients.
    Britian would win if they had either 6 or 7 nurses. 6.5 is very bad, because every patient has to deal with the trauma of a disemboweled nurse in their room.
    Dammit Hyde, you`re right. It`s like Silent Hill over here! ;-)
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9311 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 10:57 pm
    "Dammit Hyde, you`re right. It`s like Silent Hill over here!"

    Yeah, Pyramid Head is in reception taking appointments right now.
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    fishgul69 Female 18-29
    914 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 11:36 pm
    suck it up, pussy, you totally misunderstand the bill, and the problem with unemployment has nothing to do with Obama`s time. it`s not the best thing ever, and I think it could have been TONS better, but don`t complain if you`re not gonna do anything proactive about it, jeezus.
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    bomberouno Male 18-29
    185 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 11:54 pm
    @npdarren. I understand your point, but I just think that it`s stupid to allow deficit spending over and over again and then to finally put the foot down and say enough when it comes to healthcare.
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 12:21 am
    "Dammit Hyde, you`re right. It`s like Silent Hill over here!"

    "Yeah, Pyramid Head is in reception taking appointments right now."

    ROSE DA SILVA... You`re wanted in pediatrics...
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    kipz0r Male 18-29
    37 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 1:37 am
    @psykoboy264
    Isn`t that like the whole election campaign in the US?

    I love it how Americans (republicans) are panicking about becoming a socialist commie state after they have voted in a healthcare bill.
    I just think it`s seriously wrong that a 16-year-old can get her boobs enlarged cause "her classmates all have bigger boobs, booohooohooo" and that someone poor(-ish) can`t even have proper healthcare.
    Are people really that selfish and dumb?
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    keith2 Male 18-29
    2587 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 4:25 am
    you`re all right, healthcare is a privilege, NOT a right. don`t you just hate these hippie potsmoking freeloaders? i sure do.
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    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
    2893 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 4:53 am
    GOD DAMN F**KING LIBERALS!!!!!!!
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
    1231 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 5:30 am
    KipzOr; `Are people really that selfish and dumb?`
    Yes, they are. Next question.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 5:53 am
    I would like to point out that 70% of Americans did not want this bill to pass. Ten states (not all southern) plan on suing over it.

    So how did it pass in the first place?

    Because our representatives no longer acknowledge those who they represent.

    & that is a clear loss of the freedom we supposedly represent.
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    one4u2nv Male 18-29
    17 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 6:14 am
    The worst part of the bill (in my mind) is that they are requiring insurance for every person. What happens if you don`t get that insurance? They fine you. So if you couldn`t afford health care in the first place now you really can`t because you have to pay this stupid federal fine on top of your insurance rates. How stupid is that? Government mandated heath care. Thank you mommy and daddy Obama.
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    kj27 Male 30-39
    1 post
    March 23, 2010 at 6:36 am
    leesah: those "facts" are simply not true, maybe FauxNews viewers are 70% in agreement. But that number is simply not corrrect.

    one4u2nv: The public option did not make it into the bill, so what you are stating is not correct either. You will not be "forced" to get healthcare. You can put out a change jar at the gas station if you get cancer like everyone else now.... happy?
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 7:01 am
    KJ, the number is from Newsweek, which is usually fair if not perhaps slightly biased towards liberals. But I do stand corrected, I checked it, and it`s actually 64% disagree. You can check any major news source for facts about the lawsuit.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    March 23, 2010 at 7:03 am
    Bimbo
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    zep fan Female 18-29
    492 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 7:06 am
    one4u2nv:
    "The fine for not having insurance would be a minimum of $695 per person per year, with exemptions for financial hardship and other special cases." There you go.
    [source">
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    one4u2nv Male 18-29
    17 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 7:07 am
    kj27: No, actually I have a job and pay for my own health care as well as my family`s like it should be. Unlike the many people that spit out kids left and right so that I can get government assistance and let the taxpayers pay for me.
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    yepimbored Male 30-39
    131 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 7:11 am
    I`m so tired of this crap. I`m now convinced it is nothing more than a "Test" for a takeover of our country. If Obama wanted an amendment to increase the presidential term to 20 years the libs would pleasure themselves while he signs it. I hope he ends up pulling a Tiger Woods.
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    one4u2nv Male 18-29
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    March 23, 2010 at 7:15 am
    And my point is made. Thanks zep fan.
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    MechBFP Male 18-29
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    March 23, 2010 at 7:16 am
    leesah, isn`t it sad that 70% of the country is that stupid?
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 7:20 am
    "No, actually I have a job and pay for my own health care as well as my family`s like it should be. Unlike the many people that spit out kids left and right so that I can get government assistance and let the taxpayers pay for me."
    ---------------
    You`re too stupid to realize that YOU as the insured are right now paying for the uninsured. You`re also paying insurance salesmen $100k + per year and CEO $50mil + salary. This bill may not be perfect but it`s a start. I find your love of insurance companies disgusting.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 7:26 am
    Mech, isn`t it sad that 36% of the country finds it perfectly okay that this health care bill forces state government to take away funds from its education, foster care, and prisoner incarceration resources?

    But nahh, the 64% of us who do need to stop looking at this from a state and local level, right? We need to start caring about the entire nation as a whole, right?

    No. That`s why we HAVE state governments. When the federal government starts taking over the entire nation and blatantly ignores the good of individual states, we fall that much closer to a supreme "monarchy" made of the President and his House, all of whom clearly disregard the opinions of their states.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 7:27 am
    Sorry for double post.

    I`d just like to throw in that I agree perhaps health care needs some reforms, but this bill goes about it in an entirely wrong way. This will only cause more problems in the long run, and I completely disagree with those of you who say its a start. It`s a start if you`re running the race backwards.
  104. Profile photo of one4u2nv
    one4u2nv Male 18-29
    17 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 7:37 am
    How did you get a love of insurance providers from my posts or that I am too stupid to realize those things? I even spoke of it sucking that my tax money goes to pay for the people who are too lazy to get a job and have me and my hard earned money pay for their health care. I have insurance because I choose to and pay for it. NOT because the feds mandate me to and penalize me because I don`t.

    Sure, something has to be done but if you read the bill nothing is actually going to change that much for the middle class at all.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 7:52 am
    If you think your tax dollars will be used to pay for the poors insurance then you`re either dumb or ignorant. The bill restricts actions that the insurance companies used to deny coverage and requires un-insured individuals to get some goddamn insurance. If the insurance companies had put their clients before their shareholders we wouldn`t need reform.
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    Cleat_us Male 30-39
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    March 23, 2010 at 7:59 am
    you americans and your silly health care bill.... emulate canada and you`ll be alllll right.
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    Link364 Male 18-29
    440 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 8:23 am
    A lot of you people are typing too much...just saying.
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    mysticalrose Female 18-29
    158 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 8:40 am
    No nursing isn`t a good field to go into. Because you`re an idiot.
    (Also, the job market sucks just as much as every other job market.)
    Personnaly, I`m half-and-half about the reform. Hopefully people who NEED healthcare will get it now. That`s what`s important.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
    15511 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 8:46 am
    I heard the good news today! Congratulations America!!
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    one4u2nv Male 18-29
    17 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 8:48 am
    madest: So then where does all the money to pay for Medicaid that is going to cover all the poor rather than just the ones that genuinely need it come from? Maybe I`m just too dumb or ignorant to figure it out on my own.
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    urbanlegend Male 18-29
    741 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 8:52 am
    yes madist. the companies are greedy as hell. sicko made me an angry person the day i watched it.
  112. Profile photo of StphnHrrll
    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 9:14 am
    The health care reform is stupid. I do not want to be forced to purchase health insurance. My husband and I struggle with money as it is! We can hardly afford our auto-insurance. Not to mention if I don`t purchase a PRIVATE COMPANY`S insurance I`m looking at a $750 fine. What a fantastic idea Obama, thank you sooooooooooooo much. Not to mention it`s highly unconstitutional to force American`s to purchase something. How does this help people??????
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    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 9:17 am
    Oh and I am very PROUD to say that my state (Washington) is one of 10 that is suing our government over this. Much to the distaste of our shady governor. Thank you Rob McKenna. It feels fantastic to finally have a representative represent me!!!!
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    kipz0r Male 18-29
    37 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 9:46 am
    @StphnHrrll
    You actually choose your car above your own health.
    Wow.
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    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 9:51 am
    Can`t make money without a car, can`t get my kid off to school without a car. My health is taken care of. You assume I neglect it because I don`t have insurance. A doctor visit is $60 average prescription is $20. You don`t need insurance!
  116. Profile photo of kairobert
    kairobert Male 18-29
    1626 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 9:53 am
    "Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:14:48 AM
    The health care reform is stupid. I do not want to be forced to purchase health insurance. My husband and I struggle with money as it is! We can hardly afford our auto-insurance. Not to mention if I don`t purchase a PRIVATE COMPANY`S insurance I`m looking at a $750 fine. What a fantastic idea Obama, thank you sooooooooooooo much. Not to mention it`s highly unconstitutional to force American`s to purchase something. How does this help people?????"

    You clearly do not have a single clue about economics.
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    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 9:55 am
    Kip, my mom gets sick maybe once a year. & it`s a bad cold. She needs her car WAY more than health insurance. She can`t run her business without a car to make deliveries or pick up inventory.

    If someone chooses to refuse insurance due to ANY reason, be it money/general health/whatever, that is their right as an American.

    Well, not anymore, I guess.
  118. Profile photo of StphnHrrll
    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 9:56 am
    My biggest issue is being forced to do something as ridiculous as buying insurance. I don`t live in Europe so maybe I expect more freedom from my government. Here in America the government`s job is to keep us safe and manage our economy not dictate our everyday lives. They already own GM , why don`t they make it so no one can own a car that is not GM???? Obama seems to think he has that power.
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    MrVandercar Male 18-29
    286 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 9:57 am
    i wish obama took up selling used cars instead of politics.
  120. Profile photo of xastor
    xastor Male 18-29
    46 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 9:58 am
    Stphnhrll
    Get your facts right.
    If everybody pays a little no-one would be left to die in the gutter because he has no credit-card with him, and if you are struggling with money, like you say, you won`t have to pay much.
    The republicans are just mad because they (the rich) have to share a little tiny bit with the lesser fortunates and therefore spread lies about the bill.
    Good health is more important then a big car, right?
  121. Profile photo of StphnHrrll
    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 10:01 am
    I understand them enough to know that small businesses will be unable to afford the new taxes, pay a decent wage and still offer affordable services. Most businesses will be going under because of this. Being the employer of 80% of America we need to cater to the small businesses.
  122. Profile photo of StphnHrrll
    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 10:05 am
    That`s communism xastor. Everyone pay a little bit so everyone can have a lot? You are INSANE! I am not rich my family is not rich. I know many small business owners who are not rich, but they`re republican. It`s not the rich who are being affected negatively. They have to spend $50,000 a year on taxes no big deal. My father on the other hand pays $10,000-$25,000 and that`s his mortgage for a year!! My mother is now looking at handing out pink slips and pay cuts to her employees because of the taxes. THIS affects EVERYONE! Not just the rich. If you`re from Europe your opinion means nothing. Sorry don`t mean to offend, but it`s true.
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
    4683 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 10:11 am
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8474611.stm

    ...You`re all angry that your health-care is finally getting improved...

    ...

    *head-desk*
    *Injures head*
    *Sent to an NHS hospital where I`m looked after until I get better and not charged for it*
  124. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 10:23 am
    @ StphnHrrll,
    If your avatar is actually you. You need health insurance. We the insured are sick of paying for your dead beat ass.
  125. Profile photo of feiku
    feiku Female 18-29
    526 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 10:37 am
    Stephn:
    First of all, I don`t really think that a small business owner who is already struggling making money will be taxed heavier. The taxes usually only apply to the much richer, more sucessful businesses.

    Also
    "A doctor visit is $60 average prescription is $20. You don`t need insurance!"

    You think you`ll never get ill in your life? Really? If I lived like you I would have hundreds of thousands of dollars in hospital bills. I`ve gotten in an accident twice (both which were not my fault) and if I did not have insurance, I would have never been able to pay for the 4 surgeries I`ve required from those accidents. Granted, I am getting money from a settlement, but not for a long time. Hospitals don`t like waiting that long. If I didn`t have insurance, I`d be screwed.
  126. Profile photo of StphnHrrll
    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 10:37 am
    Because I`m fat??? Good one a fat joke. Um.... I doubt YOU have ever supported my "dead beat ass" I`ve had insurance before, through my employer. better insurance than you could afford I`m sure. $300 deductible and 100% coverage on everything but elective surgery. With this economy my husband lost his job therefore lost the fantastic insurance. For us it`s cheaper to pay for the doctor per visit than the $400 a month it would be for basic crappy insurance.
  127. Profile photo of StphnHrrll
    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 10:40 am
    You all are taking this the wrong way. Health Care reform is a GREAT idea this health care reform is RETARDED for lack of a better word. Hospitals can`t kick you out due to your inability to pay. Yea the bill will be huge, but you`re not dead. Why must you assume it`s the responsibility of the government to control our health? Yes the taxes are going up on ALL small businesses there is no picking and choosing. Look it up don`t just assume.
  128. Profile photo of StphnHrrll
    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 10:42 am
    You`re assuming my parents businesses were not successful. My mother`s business is one of the largest engineering firms in the county. It`s ignorant of you to think only the "fat cats" will be affected
  129. Profile photo of StphnHrrll
    StphnHrrll Female 18-29
    434 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 10:46 am
    You may not realize it, but I have PCOS and every year I have to get a full physical, blood work, biopsy and ultrasound. I have a better knowledge of my health than most people. Physical = $60 blood work =$100, biopsy = $200 and ultrasound = $250 add it all together and it`s still cheaper than it would be to purchase insurance pay copays and deductible for a month!
  130. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 11:02 am
    vv Get a job deadbeat and we wouldn`t need reform. vv
  131. Profile photo of Link364
    Link364 Male 18-29
    440 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 11:09 am
    StphnHrrll...SHUT UP!!!!!...that is all
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    Heureux Male 40-49
    1054 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 11:22 am
    StphnHrrll

    your posts are fraudulent.
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    emiserry Male 13-17
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    March 23, 2010 at 11:24 am
    Please Americans, die. Just die.
    It`s what the rest of the world thinks.
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    emiserry Male 13-17
    2 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 11:28 am
    Oh yeah, leesah, you are the most stupid person I have ever read a comment from. You are one of the persons the earth needs to get rid of. The one that causes the stereotype idiot American. Do the world a favor and kill yourself. Please do it.
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    Bremir Male 18-29
    392 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 11:44 am
    God damn it, madest. According to your profile you`re 47 years old. Grow the hell up. At 47, posting comments on a site like this, it looks bloody pathetic.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 11:59 am
    Sorry wasn`t aware of the internet age limit.
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    amozz Male 18-29
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    March 23, 2010 at 11:59 am
    I honestly don`t get what is funny about this...
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    Bremir Male 18-29
    392 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 12:04 pm
    At your age you should know better than to throw around petty insults.

    Though I suppose I should expect nothing more from someone like yourself.
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    JJdagdelen Male 18-29
    102 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 12:12 pm
    Emiserry, Chill. This is the Internet. If you haven`t figured out how to behave, we`ll put you in time-out.
  140. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 12:15 pm
    Someone like myself? Who the F are you? I would lecture you on becoming a contributing member of IAB before bitching but that would be as futile as telling someone they`re too old to insult retards.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 1:02 pm
    Guys, IAB has very few rules, but one is that we don`t do personal attacks. Now behave, all of you, or so help me I`ll turn this website around and we`re all going straight back home! And I don`t care who started it, I`ll finish it!

    /parent
  142. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 1:06 pm
    Are we there yet?
    Are we there yet?
    Are we there yet?
  143. Profile photo of leesah
    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 1:51 pm
    @Fei: My mother is a struggling small business owner and this law will force her to offer full health coverage or pay a $750 fine per employee by 2014. She`ll either need to fire half her employees so she`s under the 50 people limit or pull a hell of a lot of money out of nowhere.

    She will no longer have the option of hiring people who understand and are willing to work without health care benefits and buy it on their own, as she`s done previously.

    @Em: I would`ve dignified that with a response, but I got caught up in the poor wording. Sorry. ):

    @Madest: When you attack people on a personal level and turn an enjoyable debate into a flame war, you expose yourself as the ignorant idiot you truly are.
  144. Profile photo of strangedays
    strangedays Female 18-29
    39 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 1:51 pm
    The people saying they don`t need health insurance are the people that think nothing bad will ever happen to them. The unexpected happens, even if you`re very careful. I hardly ever get sick, but 3 years ago I slipped down a flight of stairs and broke my leg. It happens. Saying you don`t need health insurance because you`re healthy is like saying you don`t need car insurance because you`re a good driver. You can`t predict what will happen to you.
  145. Profile photo of Yaezakura
    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 2:20 pm
    leesah: No business with over 50 employees is considered a small business. If your mother`s business has over 50 employees and is "struggling", then it sounds like the business is trying to do something unreliable as a business venture, or there is a whole lot of waste going on.
  146. Profile photo of Loganp3
    Loganp3 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    This comes directly from the bill...
    If the annual payroll of such employer for the preceding calendar year: The applicable percentage is:
    Does not exceed $250,000 0 percent
    Exceeds $250,000, but does not exceed $300,000 2 percent
    Exceeds $300,000, but does not exceed $350,000 4 percent
    Exceeds $350,000, but does not exceed $400,000 6 percent
    "
  147. Profile photo of Bremir
    Bremir Male 18-29
    392 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    madest - And I should lecture you on becoming an upstanding member of society, treating others with respect instead of insulting them because they disagree with your own views.

    I see only one retard here, and it`s not the people you`re mocking. Learn some manners and grow up.

    davymid - Sorry, I`m done. It annoys me to no end though when people attack other people for no other reason than different views. Having been insulted through most of my time at school, it sickens me that someone, especially a grown up, can`t show any respect toward others.
  148. Profile photo of Loganp3
    Loganp3 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    Fine, here. Look for yourselves... http://www.opencongress.org /bill/111-h3200/text
  149. Profile photo of leesah
    leesah Female 18-29
    1566 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 4:56 pm
    Yae: The bill defines a business with 100 or fewer employees as a small business. My mother used to do quite well with her business. She would be still if the economy weren`t so bad.

    Either way, she`s still going to have to pay the fine. She`ll never fire her ladies, they`re all elderly women that work the line for her, she`d feel horrible firing them. They`ve worked for her for like ten years.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 23, 2010 at 5:30 pm
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    bomberouno Male 18-29
    185 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 6:02 pm
    Disinformation
  152. Profile photo of K3vin
    K3vin Male 18-29
    487 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 8:58 pm
    i just don`t understand why so many americans argue about healthcare reform. Taking care of the sick isn`t a bad thing you know.
  153. Profile photo of CyFan987
    CyFan987 Male 18-29
    13 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 9:08 pm
    @K3vin- No one is arguing that treating sick people is bad, it`s how its done that`s being brought into question, which in this case is completely wrong and unconstitutional
  154. Profile photo of SwyvedLegacy
    SwyvedLegacy Female 18-29
    161 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 10:51 pm
    I`m not a politician or an economist, or a health care worker. I read books for a living. And I WISH I understood what the problem was. Apparently this bill isn`t perfect, and I get that. Apparently it`s not going to help everyone. But I don`t understand why the universal system won`t work in the States. I`ve never had to go to a government appointed doctor. I don`t have to pay for xrays or cat scans or blood work. Perscriptions are partially covered under the extended medical coverage I pay for. Sure my dental isn`t the greatest, but I know if I got cancer tomorrow I wouldn`t go bankrupt because of it. Why can`t this happen in the states? This isn`t a criticism. I genuinely want to know why this type of healthcare offered in Canada and Europe is unachievable in the States. Can someone please explain this because I`m obviously missing something. Again, not a criticism. I recognize that the States is a good country with caring people. This is not a flame.
  155. Profile photo of Yaezakura
    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 11:50 pm
    SwyvedLegacy: There is no reason it can`t work. The problem is, many people don`t want it to work. Such as the heads of private insurance companies, who don`t want the government cutting into their profits by making them actually pay what they owe to their customers.

    As for the members of the public who don`t want it to go through, many just don`t know what they`re talking about. They blather out whatever they hear from Fox News, which is in the pocket of the Republican party, and the Republican party is in the pocket of their contributors--including large insurance companies who don`t want their profits dented by a measure that will improve life for the vast majority of Americans.
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    GirlieMutant Female 18-29
    236 posts
    March 24, 2010 at 9:08 am
    God, do Americans even CARE/READ how it works in other countries??
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    snailslime Female 18-29
    90 posts
    March 24, 2010 at 10:40 am
    its just not worth waiting 10 hours in a waiting room with an actual problem for the first 25 potheads and deadbeats to get thier minor and for some self inflicted problems checked out.
    i also dont believe it`s fair to take money from someone who busts thier ass daily for someone who wont, and then just hand them everything..
    i know its harsh, but life just does not work that way, not everyone can have everything...thats just how it works
  158. Profile photo of snailslime
    snailslime Female 18-29
    90 posts
    March 24, 2010 at 10:54 am
    its just not worth waiting 10 hours in a waiting room with an actual problem for the first 25 potheads and deadbeats to get thier minor and for some self inflicted problems checked out.
    i also dont believe it`s fair to take money from someone who busts thier ass daily for someone who wont, and then just hand them everything..
    i know its harsh, but life just does not work that way, not everyone can have everything...thats just how it works
  159. Profile photo of Yaezakura
    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    March 24, 2010 at 2:05 pm
    i also dont believe it`s fair to take money from someone who busts thier ass daily for someone who wont, and then just hand them everything..

    That`s not what this is about. This is about making sure that getting sick doesn`t bankrupt the common man, like it does today. This is about making it so human lives don`t have a dollar amount attached to them like they do today. This is about ensuring that those who CAN`T work get the care they need.

    You clearly have no idea what this is about, and thus need to STFU about it.
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    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
    2893 posts
    March 24, 2010 at 2:07 pm
    @GirlieMutant
    No, why should we?
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    Twill Female 18-29
    1 post
    March 24, 2010 at 4:46 pm
    @snailslime re: its just not worth waiting 10 hours in a waiting room with an actual problem for the first 25 potheads and deadbeats to get thier minor and for some self inflicted problems checked out.

    Actually, dearie, that`s not quite how it works. You see, what happens is that your admittance depends on the severity of your case. Generally speaking, if there`s copious amounts of blood you`re priority. Broken bones, sprains, copious amounts of vomit/pain usually means you`ll be seen first. If you`ve got a cough or something, expect to be there awhile. That`s how it is here in Canada. I`m not saying it`s a perfect system, there are people who are overlooked and fall through the cracks (I know this firsthand, and I have family in the medical field!). But it`s not fair that the rich man gets away without any real worry if he has a car accident, but the poor man has to go into debt or even go without treatment if something bad happens to them.
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    Andicicle Male 18-29
    503 posts
    March 24, 2010 at 8:43 pm
    OMFG, relax, unless you can`t afford it, this will change very little in your life. I make enough money to cover it, and I don`t mind doing it.
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    Fleurdelis Female 18-29
    14 posts
    April 3, 2010 at 9:14 pm
    Mate, I don`t understand why so many people are all worked up about it. Most nations already have a universal health care system (New Zealand, Australia, Japan, Canada, United Kingdom, Scandinavia, most of Europe, Asia and South America) and it`s working just fine. It is not limiting your `god-given rights`, it`s expanding them for one and all. How is this a problem? Being from New Zealand, I, and many others, just don`t get the Conservative American response that it is impinging on their `freedom`.
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    cornflakegrl Female 18-29
    204 posts
    August 6, 2010 at 12:23 am
    Because we aren`t moving towards Universal Health Care, they are making it possible for everyone to afford health insurance. Oh not by adjusting the rates to what working people can afford, though.

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