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  1. Profile photo of fancylad
    fancylad Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:03 am
    Link: More Fuzzy Obama Math On MSNBC - MSNBC, we understand when Fox News acts this retarded, but you? You`re supposed to get this stuff right...
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    docwatson Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:12 am
    Do people really not understand how a survey like this works? "Mark all that you think apply."
    Thus, 24% may think he`s the Anti-Christ, and some of those same 24% may ALSO think he`s a socialist or a Muslim (or both). It`s not a very good system because you can`t atomize any of the poll answers to derive any new information, however.
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    blckhawk1234 Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:14 am
    Well let`s see. The numbers are high, as a "radical left" I even think they are exaggerated. If you are lookin at it not adding up to a hundred, maybe they asked 5 yes/no questions.
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    theshocker87 Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:14 am
    lol the antichrist?
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    ZackDark Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:14 am
    People are allowed to think more than just one of those options.
    Some might even have checked all of them.
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    mattriesel Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:15 am
    ugh, learn how to read a survey.
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    inaria Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:16 am
    O.o People don`t actually believe he`s the anti-christ do they? Disregarding the bad math, this is all fictional....right?
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    MG6 Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:16 am
    This IS right, it`s just not clear.

    A random republican can both think he`s a muslim and he`s a socialist.

    The options are not mutually exclusive
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    WhoaHeyDude Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:17 am
    So...he can only be one of those?
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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:17 am
    "You`re supposed to get this stuff right... "

    Ehh, not really. CNN maybe, but msnbc is pretty left biased.
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    k8giggles Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:19 am
    well obviously if you understood the first thing about statistics, you`d understand that this list is not the results of a mutually exclusive poll. just like i can think that this picture is dumb and unfunny, a republican can think that obama is more than one of these (albeit ridiculous) characteristics. it doesn`t need to add up to 100%.
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    danthew Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:21 am
    Well that`s not exactly a fair survey anyway... and the results are ok if people could choose more than one option.
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    hornybiscuit Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:21 am
    MSNBC is the liberal version of Fox. No one should be surprised.
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    dreadqueen00 Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:22 am
    Fuzzy math and anit-christ to boot? Oh dear.
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    SpoonFork Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:22 am
    Unless some people think he`s a muslim AND a socialist and not born in the USA and doing what Hitler did and that he`s the antichrist all at once??????
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    robinbeirne Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:23 am
    so he is a socialist foreign muslim clone of hitler "Anitchrist"
    Republicans are so stupid.
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    bluegaze5 Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:23 am
    maybe they just did completely separate polls and combined them to make the #`s look good. I think either side sucks...and all this shiz needs to get worked on. Ugh...politics suck.
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    skine Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:24 am
    This just proves that fancylad doesn`t understand that a poll can ask five different questions.
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    gabcab Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:24 am
    Doesn`t look too legit, considering they think he is the Anitchrist
  20. Profile photo of bluegaze5
    bluegaze5 Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:25 am
    But I do agree, he is all of those, and an epic fail as a president.
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    Samuelsoon Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:25 am
    It seems more likely that its "percent of questioned republicans think this" Not "which one of these do you think" So each thing is how many people said yes to this particular question.

    Not that im defending Msnbc, they are rapidly becoming the liberal fox.
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    bigbaddave Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:26 am
    If ya think Fox is biased, BSNBC is a 100 times worse. This would be one of the reasons why BSNBC tanks in the ratings
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:35 am
    Republicans should just pick on and run with it. Other wise they`re indecisive, dithering twats that never amount to anything ever again. Especially since they `killed` off their moderates.
  24. Profile photo of Hayllee
    Hayllee Female 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:44 am
    He`s the anitchrist? Do you maybe mean- antichrist? hmmm...
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    SuperSmash Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:52 am
    This is just another example of why is MSNBC is no better than FOX and anyone who watches it and then says negative things about FOX is a hypocrite.

    I don`t even believe the poll results and think this whole thing is made up.
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    Ace_Mazta Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:54 am
    this isn`t a fail, its a comprehension fail. each question is a separate poll, not a certain percentage of his traits
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    Norris Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:56 am
    @Hayllee

    NICE at catching that typo!..I didnt even notice it
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    tkpb9381 Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 8:57 am
    Yea. I don`t believe those numbers at all. Total bullpoo imo
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    asmshufty Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:00 am
    seriously people. Before you jump to crazy conclusions, maybe, just maybe... this poll asked people to submit more than one answer. So... Jim Bob from Arkansas, put "the antichrist, AND he`s a muslim" Jesus Herbert Walker Christ...
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:01 am
    Kinda funny MSNBC has this on there seeing as how they are more liberal than Fox is conservative.
  31. Profile photo of ElDavo
    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:03 am
    Clearly MSNBC isn`t trying to use 211% of one poll, they`re five separate polls. If you are mad at MSNBC viewers who criticize Fox`s one-sidedness, you are an idiot.

    Also, good catch, Hayllee.
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    razlem Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:04 am
    Remind me again who the extremists are?
  33. Profile photo of Neagle
    Neagle Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:06 am
    Fluff poll but, Obama makes Michael Dukakis look like Presidential material.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:08 am
    This isn`t wrong (well, I can`t speak for the validity of the polling, but the presentation is not inherently wrong). These were clearly separate poll questions, so, a single person could have answered each question, or answered some but no others, etc. Matter of fact, this could be a summary of five different polls, or ten or twenty pools, each one asking one of these questions...
  35. Profile photo of Subushie
    Subushie Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:15 am
    If these are actual statistics, it shows just how incredibly ignorant Americans can be.
  36. Profile photo of panth753
    panth753 Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:23 am
    They all from different polls.
  37. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:25 am
    Check those that apply:

    Obama is:
    []A socialist.
    []A Muslim.
    []Not born in the USA.
    []Doing what Hitler did.
    []The Antichrist.

    (Lets say I check 1 and 2, and Davy checks 2 and 5. Lets say we are the only respondents.)

    50% of people think A.
    100% of people think B.
    50% of people think E.

    That totals to 200%. That is correct. It does not have to be from different polls (though it could be).

    Thank you for your time.
  38. Profile photo of BlankTom
    BlankTom Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:25 am
    wow, i can`t get over how dumb IAB is.
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    BizahrClover Female 70 & Over
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:26 am
    I never could understand american polotics, but Eldavo seemed to have a fairly legitimate explanation.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:27 am
    No Haylee, you`re not misreading - he`s an IT christ. Like Marilyn Monroe was an It girl! Yay. Sorry guys, that`s all I have. Baalthazaq stole my thunder.
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    laurjendee Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:34 am
    doing what hilter did?
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    strivejaylen Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:34 am
    all politics are stupid
    he is none of those,
    but he just wants us to live in a poor world with a national debt so high that we would not beable to pay for another war
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    memoryburner Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:39 am
    they arent all going to add up to be 100% because it works like this...

    100% of the people vote on all of them separately (seeing as how they are different polls)
    67% out of 100% think hes a socialist
    57% out of 100% think hes a muslim (not that it would matter since this country was founded on the idea of freedom of religion)

    And so on.
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    admisaok Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:40 am
    you dont have to add them up, obviously
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    zazuch Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:44 am
    "but he just wants us to live in a poor world with a national debt so high that we would not beable to pay for another war"

    We didn`t have the money for the war we are in now!
  46. Profile photo of ElDavo
    ElDavo Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:44 am
    Baal: Five different polls, five questions in one poll, it`s the same thing basically.
  47. Profile photo of AnarchistGod
    AnarchistGod Male 70 & Over
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:54 am
    Anyone who is not an anarchist, is a socialist.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:55 am
    they are different questions, so they arent supposed to add up. and i didnt know 38% of republicans thought obama was trying to violently take over the world and exterminate an entire race of people.
  49. Profile photo of SLC77
    SLC77 Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:58 am
    and there`s a typo.
  50. Profile photo of ElSombrero
    ElSombrero Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 9:59 am
    So Obama is the Socialistic Foriegn Muslim Antichrist who is doing what Hitler did.

    That settles it.
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    agamemnon Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 10:30 am
    IAB sucks at math. MSNBC sucks at spelling.
  52. Profile photo of LtFurpie
    LtFurpie Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 10:36 am
    He is a socialist, who cares if he`s a muslim, Don`t care if he was or wasn`t born in the US, but me thinks he was, he`s def not doing what hitler did, not even close! And lastly, there has to be a christ before there can be an antichrist!
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    March 27, 2010 at 10:38 am
    what is a anitchrist?
  54. Profile photo of dante8o
    dante8o Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 10:39 am
    "I think I`ll make a comment that is basically the same as the previous 50 (or so) comments, just to show how smart I am."

    kinda like beating a dead horse, no?
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    dante8o Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 10:45 am
    LtFur... correct me if I`m wrong, but doesn`t the Prez have to be a natural born citizen of the United States? If so, that would be the revelance of questioning where he was born.
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    connor53 Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 10:55 am
    We all know he is socialist and probably not born in this country (cause he is taking over every industry he can and he hasn`t revealed his birth certificate)
  57. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 10:59 am
    It says at the top, Harris Poll. Possibly Harris county in Houston, TX where you would expect to find radically ignorant notions that Obama equates to any of these people. Don`t drink the wat..........just stay away from Texas all together.
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    sirrix Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 11:15 am
    Umm there`s no fuzzy math - it isn`t as if they were given the choice of saying Muslim *or* antichrist... Can`t it be both? There you go starting unnecessary political fires, again...
  59. Profile photo of slayer50515
    slayer50515 Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 11:18 am
    You all do realize this poll could allow for multiple choices right...? This is where you can vote for A, B, or C and any combination of them. When you see it on a ballot, they will be check boxes instead of circles.
    This means it would be of all of the total voters, how many voted for that specific choice. This means that it will NOT add to 100%.
    Here`s an example:
    There are 10 voters. Any combination of the 3 choices can be voted for (A, B, or C.)
    6 of the 10 vote for option A = 60%
    9 of the 10 vote for option B = 90%
    2 of the 10 vote for option C = 20%

    This is rather basic. Adding up all the percentages in this kind of poll is completely pointless.

    Since the polls in the picture are not mutually exclusive it is very easy to assume that this poll allowed for multiple choices.

    Many of you other IAB`ers just made fun of yourself. Don`t pretend to be more intelligent than you are. It`s doing you all a disservice.
  60. Profile photo of slayer50515
    slayer50515 Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 11:22 am
    "If these are actual statistics, it shows just how incredibly ignorant Americans can be."
    I lol`d.
    These questions were all set up to elicit specific responses. (Simply put, the poll is biased)
    This was a terribly made poll in my opinion. I would`ve expected something like this from Fox "News."
  61. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2010 at 11:37 am
    That`s because it`s likely true that he`s a muslim (Once a muslim always a muslim, According to sharia law... Either that or they kill you for apostacy) and he`s definitely a socialist.

    Look at just the recent facts. He signed the health care bill into law, Where the gov`t takes over 1/6th of the economy (Socialism). He just snubbed the PM of Israel, Wouldn`t allow pictures to be taken then walked out of talking with him to have lunch.
  62. Profile photo of AaronE
    AaronE Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 11:59 am
    Yeah we expect biased polling from Fox, but MSNBC is plenty biased too. Also, there`s no fuzzy math, you just don`t understand polling.
  63. Profile photo of Wizard715
    Wizard715 Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:00 pm
    Gee, MSNBC and Fox are biased? Next thing you`ll say is that CNN reports news and is not used as a liberal mouthpiece.
    Same old politics. When Bush was in office the liberals all made him out to be the next Hitler. Now they act all surprised that the Conservatives can play the same game.

    It`s time for a party, or better yet, a no party system. Get rid of the lobbyists, the party lines and the BS that we are force fed every day.
  64. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:10 pm
    That`s because it`s likely true that he`s a muslim
    I lol`d.
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    Puddingbrood Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:13 pm
    The funny thing is, I`m doing my International Baccalaureate, and a cultural option is "Media bias in america".
    I don`t think I have to explain the rest.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:13 pm
    wow amazing mathematics!
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    Dakkar Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:17 pm
    The surprising thing is that some people obviously do not see that MSNBC is just as bad on the left side as Fox News is on the right.

    What with Chris "I felt this thrill going up my leg" Matthews and the great patriot of the people Keith Olbermann. You can take MSNBC opinion show hosts and equivalently map them to the Fox News counterparts.

    But, then again, it`s only cool to rail against a biased news station if you don`t agree with it.
  68. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:19 pm
    I would like to see a poll of how many democrats from that area thought the same thing about Bush when he was in office. Bush did NOT have the oratory skills Hitler did, nor did he do anything comparable to what Hitler did. And to be honest, taking this poll in Harris county is probably not gonna be a good representation of republican views across the U.S. Thats like polling the Westboro Baptist Church to get the pulse of christians nationwide.
  69. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:21 pm
    @Brassbull:

    How come everytime someone takes a pooe at Obama, someone brings up Bush?

    HE IS OUT OF OFFICE! I`m tired of hearing about him.
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    idestel Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:29 pm
    why is there 231%
  71. Profile photo of skypirate
    skypirate Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:34 pm
    Hows that fuzzy? Those statements aren`t mutually exclusive.
  72. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:36 pm
    I would like to see a poll of how many democrats from that area thought the same thing about Bush when he was in office.
    What? I didn`t think Bush was a socialist, a muslim, a non-american, Hitler-like or the antichrist. He was a f*cking retard, is what he was.
  73. Profile photo of xiquiripat
    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:55 pm
    IAB fail: you can respond that Obama is both a muslim and not born in the USA or any number of these combinations. It`s out of 100% for each category not the total of all categories.
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    vfr4 Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 12:59 pm
    Wait, is being a socialist bad?
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    bomberouno Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:02 pm
    Just goes to show you the level of critical thinking that everyday people use, which is about none.

    This kind of pole doesn`t have to add up to 100%, if that needs to be explained to you, please don`t vote.

  76. Profile photo of Rman1201
    Rman1201 Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:12 pm
    IAB Fail.

    Its the % of Republicans that believe he is each of the following... It isn`t one question (ie "Which of the following is Obama?")

    The poll was -
    Do you believe Obama is a Socialist? (Yes/No)
    Do you believe Obama is Muslim? (Yes/No)
    ... Etc
  77. Profile photo of Brassbull
    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:34 pm
    Auburnjunky and Davymind,

    Bush is the only other president I know of who was compared to Hitler. What I am saying is I would like to get an idea of how many democrats polled from the same area had the same irrational and ignorant view that he was "doing what Hitler did." Bush is the only other president I have seen denomstrators compare to Hitler. It would give an idea of how extreme both sides might be. I`m not sure why that would get your panties in such a bunch but oh well.
  78. Profile photo of acanatane
    acanatane Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:35 pm
    i dont get whats wrong with this (other than that some people think some of these things!) it doesnt need to add up to 100, people could think hes the antichrist who happens to be non-american and muslim, and therefore would be included three times. each section is out of a hundred, nto the whole thing!
  79. Profile photo of dante8o
    dante8o Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:35 pm
    still beating the dead horse, I see
  80. Profile photo of viczko
    viczko Male 13-17
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    they spelled antichrist wrong -.-
  81. Profile photo of Ditas
    Ditas Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:40 pm
    he´s the ANITCHRIST? nice spelling xD
  82. Profile photo of jacothy
    jacothy Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:44 pm
    To Rman1201, no u. They Spelled Antichrist Wrong. FAIL.:-?
  83. Profile photo of Ditas
    Ditas Female 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:45 pm
    wait... wtf? why does my age appear as 13-17? i am 18... it actually says so on my profile
  84. Profile photo of goaliejerry
    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:46 pm
    "Doing what hitler did."

    That simply speaks to the sorry state of our educational system. I`m pretty sure Hitler hated black people, and murdered millions. Obama gave healthcare to poor people regardless of race. Yeah, I can see how you`d mix that up.
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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 1:53 pm

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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 2:22 pm
    Hitler: Nationalized German banks. Nationalized German auto industry. Nationalized German health care. Nationalized German housing. etc. etc.

    Obama: Nationalized American banks (bailouts. he`s working on it.) Nationalized American auto industry. (GM down, Ford to go! Dodge/Jeep is foreign) Nationalized American health care. (Once the Insurance companies are bankrupt from this new law, who`s left?) Nationalized American Housing. (FHA taking over failed mortgages. He`s working on it.) etc etc....

    It`s not Hitler. I don`t see him cooking the Jews, but like Hitler, Obama will always be remembered.
  87. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 2:39 pm
    Hitler also purposely held inflation down artificially until the Deuchemark lost value. He masked his reasoning and said it was a stimulus package.
  88. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 27, 2010 at 3:09 pm
    davymid:

    Barry Soetoro`s Indonesian School Registration

    Please note the 5th line down where it asks for religion, It clearly is written "Islam". This an Associated Press Photo, So it`s no joke or photoshop.

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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    March 27, 2010 at 3:16 pm
    Auburnjunky:

    If you`re refering to the federal takeover of Fannie May and Freddie Mac, then Bush is extremely relvant to that argument. James B Lockhart III announced his decision to do so on september 7, 2008 (Obama took office January 7, 2009) and it was a result of the economic depression and subsequent financial housing crisis caused by the Bush administration. In fact, Bush was pushing for increased goverment regulation of those insitutions since 2003.

    Bailouts do not imply ownership by the government and cannot be considered nationalizing. If you think they do then Bush is just as guilty because he bailed out AIG for $85 million so you would be arguing that Bush nationalized the insurance industry. Congress bailed out the airline industry during Bush`s administration as well so I guess he nationalized the commercial airlining industry. I do not think any of these examples qualify as "nationalizing", even if that is the direction they point towards.
  90. Profile photo of Rman1201
    Rman1201 Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 3:23 pm
    Really? I mean Really?

    Hitler isn`t famous for nationalizing banks and the auto industry. If those are the standards to make one close to Hitler, the entire Scandinavian region might as well be renamed Hitler-land.

    Hitler: Murdered and tortured an entire race of people.

    Obama: Insured 32 million that were previously uninsured.

    I mean, really? I guess you all went to school in Texas.
  91. Profile photo of Rman1201
    Rman1201 Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 3:26 pm
    I guess if you wanna swing this argument the other way....
    Anyone who has pride in their nation is doing EXACTLY what Mussolini did.
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    wereallboned Male 18-29
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    March 27, 2010 at 3:30 pm
    how is this math fuzzy? i think fancy`s intelligence is wat shuld be called into question
    also point number 2 drat fox jokes...democrats have how many news stations/programs? theyre allowed to be just as biased as the democrat stations stop crying--democrats had 8 years to poo on bush, obama can handle the same
  93. Profile photo of SuperBeast
    SuperBeast Male 18-29
    96 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 3:37 pm
    This math makes perfect sense... its not all the same poll, 67% of republicans think he is a Socialist the other 33% do not. 57% think he is Muslim and 43% do not and so on. He can be both a Muslim Socialist they are different polls...
  94. Profile photo of mervviscious
    mervviscious Male 40-49
    1793 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 3:40 pm
    Fox news sucks...
  95. Profile photo of wyngit
    wyngit Male 18-29
    153 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 4:13 pm
    America... why you embarrass yourself so?
  96. Profile photo of Pingas
    Pingas Male 13-17
    312 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 4:34 pm
    This actually makes sense. If I asked you "Do you think people suck?" and "Are you 20?" would that be the same question?
  97. Profile photo of green_batman
    green_batman Female 18-29
    728 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    Anitchrist?

    Anyway, he is a socialist, but the rest of those are just silly mudslinging.
  98. Profile photo of sirdave80
    sirdave80 Male 18-29
    181 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 5:16 pm
    This actually does make sense. Let`s say someone has 6 questions. He surveys 100 people. 65 out of 100 agree with question 1. 93 out of 100 agree with question 2. It`s not like a Pie Chart.
  99. Profile photo of ZombieSex
    ZombieSex Female 13-17
    51 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 5:16 pm
    Lol-doing what Hitler did? XD
  100. Profile photo of cndman15
    cndman15 Male 18-29
    328 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 5:19 pm
    ummm theres nothing wrong with the math.. theyr 4 seperate polls..
  101. Profile photo of cndman15
    cndman15 Male 18-29
    328 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 5:21 pm
    not to beat a dead horse or anything..
  102. Profile photo of WeePee
    WeePee Male 18-29
    612 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 5:54 pm
    should be titled "IAB still doesn`t really understand polling"
  103. Profile photo of dfcrackhead
    dfcrackhead Male 13-17
    327 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 6:07 pm
    @cndman15 theres 5 of them last time I counted....
  104. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10742 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 6:15 pm
    Well said WeePee



    What if someone said "all of the above"?
  105. Profile photo of moefreak
    moefreak Female 18-29
    1963 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 6:40 pm
    Yeah. Nothing wrong with this.
  106. Profile photo of Ruffiana
    Ruffiana Male 30-39
    506 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 6:42 pm
    Hitler pushed for health care reform? I did not know that. Huh...
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    KISSsoldier Male 18-29
    18 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 6:59 pm
    i totally agree with superbeast
  108. Profile photo of sourkrauter
    sourkrauter Male 18-29
    894 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    i dont dig the government one bit, but personally i dont think obama`s getting voted out next term, we`re stuck with him. i just hope he doesnt start a war to stay in office like bush did. FACT: No U.S. President Has Lost Re-election While a War Was In Progress
  109. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 7:11 pm
    What America Thinks Of Republicans:
    Harris Poll
    They`re retarded: 100%
  110. Profile photo of npdarren
    npdarren Male 18-29
    602 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 7:13 pm
    Ya know F.D.R was a lot like Hitler too.
  111. Profile photo of Hiromi
    Hiromi Female 18-29
    1149 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 7:39 pm
    Anitchrist. lmao

    Oh yeah...socialism is REAL scary..
  112. Profile photo of primetimekin
    primetimekin Male 18-29
    7935 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 8:11 pm
    fancylad isn`t very good with statistics i see...
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    midnitetrain Female 18-29
    36 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 8:24 pm
    lolz at madest
  114. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 8:24 pm
    "it was a result of the economic depression and subsequent financial housing crisis caused by the Bush administration."

    The housing crash was not caused by the Bush administration. Clinton signed off on GSEs, Making them legal. The democrat controlled house rebuffed auditors that tried in vain to warn about the upcoming crisis. In 2004 auditors came before the house GSE subcommittee and voiced their concerns over the illegal book keeping of fannie and freddie. They were flatly told that there was no problem and accused as scaremongers and lairs.

    2004 GSE Subcommittee Meeting
  115. Profile photo of _kiersten_
    _kiersten_ Female 18-29
    1682 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 9:29 pm
    Haha xD
  116. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 9:33 pm
    Rman1201, do you think that Hitler started the Holocaust on his first day in office? According to your standards, we can`t compare anyone to Hitler until AFTER they`ve murdered their 6 millionth Jew.

    We need to study the early history of European fasçism if we are going go understand what led up to WWII and the Holocaust and how to avoid anything like that from ever happening again.

    The sad fact is, we are doing a LOT of things similar to what the European fasçists did in the 20s and 30s. Just because Hitler isn`t FAMOUS for nationalizing industries or banning private gun ownership, that doesn`t mean he didn`t do it or that it wasn`t bad.

    Before WWII, American progressives were quite enamored with Hitler and Mussolini, and they still hold many of the same ideas to this day.

    BTW, that poll has been completely discredited as bullpoo.

    http://tinyurl.com/yd2dee2
  117. Profile photo of dapaperboy
    dapaperboy Male 13-17
    214 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 9:39 pm
    lol antichrist. im surprised that "Lincoln`s assassin" is not a choice
  118. Profile photo of henryhendrix
    henryhendrix Male 30-39
    722 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 9:45 pm
    231%?
  119. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 9:51 pm
    The housing crash was not caused by the Bush administration.
    Not caused by, but facilitated by. By rampant deregulation of financial institutions, his administration allowed the sub-prime clusterdrat to happen. We all suffered from the fallout of that, Crackr. People all over the world caught a cold because America sneezed.
  120. Profile photo of WeirdMN
    WeirdMN Male 30-39
    181 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 9:59 pm
    231% of Republicans agree!
  121. Profile photo of Rheaonon
    Rheaonon Male 18-29
    363 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 10:03 pm
    WeirdMN:
    "231% of Republicans agree!"
    Ever think some of the numbers are overlapping? Sorta like a Venn Diagram...
  122. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 10:40 pm
    Davymid, what "deregulation" are you talking about? I assume you mean the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 which allowed banks to sell securities and insurance among other things. A couple of interesting things about that: first, it passed the Senate 90-8, the House 362-57, and Clinton, not Bush, signed it into law. Second, the regulations it repealed never even existed in Europe.

    If Bush can be faulted for one thing it is for trying to get along with the Democrats. He wanted to "set a new tone." Instead, he should have been attacking them every night on TV for blocking attempts to rein in Fannie and Freddie, who were buying up all of these worthless mortgages -- which banks were being forced to make under CRA -- and selling them to Wall Street as safe-and-sound, government-backed securities.

    If you want to understand what happened, go here:

    http://tinyurl.com/ye4do6t
  123. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 11:03 pm
    Thanks for the link Ollie. I freely admit that I`m parrotting the BBC here, who I trust as a truly impartial source of news, unlike the American system. But, like anyone sensible, I`m open to both sides of the position.

    I`ll have to check it tomorrow though, it`s late here on the East Coast.
  124. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 11:04 pm
    Davymid: "By rampant deregulation of financial institutions, his administration allowed the sub-prime clusterdrat to happen."

    Clinton De-Regulated the banks Davy, Not Bush, As Ollie pointed out. I guess you`ll retreat a decade and somehow try to blame Reagan now.
  125. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 11:13 pm
    Ollie: yes it not only allowed banks to sell securities and insurance. It allowed insurance companies and securities firms to act like banks, They could borrow from the fed and also have FDIC protection.

    Jon Stewart just parodied Chris Dodd`s `Finance Reform` on his show lately, Was funny and informative.
  126. Profile photo of davymid
    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 11:14 pm
    Clinton De-Regulated the banks Davy, Not Bush, As Ollie pointed out. I guess you`ll retreat a decade and somehow try to blame Reagan now.
    I think you`ll find that I won`t. I look for blame for greatest f*ck-ups in recorded history much more proximately than that.
  127. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 11:28 pm
    "I look for blame for greatest f*ck-ups in recorded history much more proximately than that."

    Good, Because it`s more than obvious now the majority of American voters did just that in Nov. 2008.

    But don`t worry, We are resolved to fix part of the problem come Nov. 2010.
  128. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15841 posts
    March 27, 2010 at 11:43 pm
    Thanks CJ. Usually I find Jon Stewart to be just a big horse`s ass and not very funny, but this was really good! ;-)
  129. Profile photo of mystery08
    mystery08 Male 18-29
    160 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 12:40 am
    the statments aren`t exclusive. This post is dumb and pointless. The ""math"" is correct.

    IE he can be a muslem a socalist and the anti-crist so it doesnt need to add to 100.
  130. Profile photo of thelonious
    thelonious Male 40-49
    3286 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 2:41 am
    Somebody smoked the devil`s weed instead of going to statistics class, and then posted this
  131. Profile photo of CurlybackJoe
    CurlybackJoe Male 18-29
    222 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 3:03 am
    they spelt antichrist wrong :)
  132. Profile photo of buxco215
    buxco215 Male 18-29
    977 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 4:39 am
    Republicans = buzzkills!
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    crazyjelly Male 13-17
    74 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 7:18 am

  134. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 7:28 am
    I am fairly certain that every single syndicated news station is biased in their own fashion. Show me the reason why MSNBC is "supposed to get this right".
  135. Profile photo of Stelly
    Stelly Male 30-39
    317 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 8:04 am
    I`m pretty sure they meant 67% thought he was a socialist and therefor 33% thought not, 57% thought he is muslim and therefore 43% thought not etc...
  136. Profile photo of CodeJockey
    CodeJockey Male 40-49
    5611 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 8:31 am
    "ANITCHRIST."

    You know: One could make an entire site about fail on Fox News and MSNBC.
  137. Profile photo of GuardinGnome
    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
    2893 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 10:10 am
    They could have just said Socialist.
    All of those other things are true about all Socialists.
    Well except maybe the Muslim part.
  138. Profile photo of PSU840
    PSU840 Male 18-29
    78 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 10:37 am
    *facepalm
  139. Profile photo of Froggybuster
    Froggybuster Male 13-17
    122 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 11:29 am
    Wow... How stupid/rediculously right wing are the iab moderators? This is quite frankly drating retarded to think that these are meant to add to 100%, you stupid dumbdrats.
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    TaiAZNKID Male 13-17
    77 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 3:58 pm
    FACE PALM IS RITE LOLL
  141. Profile photo of janus_games
    janus_games Male 18-29
    294 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 4:43 pm
    Um no, the harris poll is not an either or poll. Of the 100% surveyed...

    67% believe he`s socialist
    57% believe he`s a muslim
    ...

    There`s obviously some crossover here, like I`m sure where he`s a socialist secret muslim.
  142. Profile photo of GuardinGnome
    GuardinGnome Male 18-29
    2893 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 5:33 pm
    maybe they just didn`t feel like sticking with 100%.
  143. Profile photo of howlingwolf
    howlingwolf Male 18-29
    1351 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    I got it!
    Take all numbers, add them together, divide by the standard deviation of the percents, then raise it to the mean power while balancing a salami on your nose. Then...you get 100% (note: the salami is vital)
  144. Profile photo of LithiumOne
    LithiumOne Male 18-29
    153 posts
    March 28, 2010 at 8:49 pm
    I voted Anitchrist. There wasn`t an Antichrist answer choice, so I picked the closest one.
  145. Profile photo of Kalimata
    Kalimata Male 30-39
    661 posts
    March 29, 2010 at 1:08 am
    Remember, we are talking about Republicans here...

    *Flame On!
  146. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
    3844 posts
    March 29, 2010 at 11:45 pm
    Obviously the categories are not exclusive. Why would you expect them to be? If a Republican believes Obama is a Muslim, wouldn`t that same Republican also likely believe he was not born in the United States?
  147. Profile photo of LandoGriffin
    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
    3844 posts
    March 29, 2010 at 11:46 pm
    Oh wait, the joke is that they wrote "anitchrist" instead of "antichrist." I get it now.
  148. Profile photo of Rabblerouser
    Rabblerouser Male 18-29
    13 posts
    April 13, 2010 at 6:04 am
    Liberals have got to be the most brain dead, follow-the-guy-in-front-of-me clowns ever.
  149. Profile photo of Wundt
    Wundt Male 40-49
    410 posts
    May 16, 2011 at 11:30 am
    Um... these are different questions, as in, "Do you believe Omaba is XXX", Yes/No, it could also be a "Click all that apply" and then the answers are summed based on the number of yes`s. This is done all the time in surveys.

    This is not fuzzy math, or even bad methodology. They assumed that the viewers would understand that these were not either/or type of totals.

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