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127 Responses to Avatar: Is It An Advertisement For Paganism

  1. Profile photo of Matwix_2004
    Matwix_2004 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 7:58 am
    Link: Avatar: Is It An Advertisement For Paganism - Pastor Mark Driscoll sheds light on the inherent paganism seen throughout the most popular film in America, `Avatar.`
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:07 am
    ah damn, he`s one of them jesus people.
  3. Profile photo of Baelzar
    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:07 am
    Newsflash: Christmas = Winter Equinox, Easter = Spring Equinox.

    Ever wonder where the Easter Bunny and Easter Eggs came from? Da hurr hurr da DERP DERP
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    Terminal88 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:08 am
    oh you`ve got to be kidding...
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    huskermike Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:16 am
    He does realize the biggest Christian holiday is based on a Pagan celebration, right?
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    pui Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:16 am
    Auuugh I hate crap like this. I`m Christian and I failed to see the "Overt Demonism" in that movie, sorry.
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    green_btrfly Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:19 am
    and what, may I ask, is wrong with paganism? the religion of which christianity is very similar, especially catholisism, with all their rituals.
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    pui Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:20 am
    This reminds me of that "Disney and their Leftist subliminal messages" idea someone posted in the messed up Lion King toy`s comments lol
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    skite111 Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:21 am
    This guy has a screw loose.
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    marcus2 Male 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:23 am
    There is lots of people i want to hit with a hammer, he is one of them.
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    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:27 am
    As a Christian I think the problem comes if you are looking to Hollywood productions to base your spirituality on. If you view the movie as what it is, a few hours of entertainment, then there is no problem. However, if you find it to be a few hours of Life lessons, then there is a problem. Just like some up in arms over Harry Potter. If you do not have the ability to explain fantasy magic to your children and show them the difference between this and the Occult, then by all means, keep them away from it. But for those of us who can, well don`t expect us to follow up on the boycott. :)
  12. Profile photo of hwkiller
    hwkiller Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:29 am
    Paganism?

    Why must my fellow Christians make such awful arguments.

    There`s as much paganism in that movie as there is in st. Francis.

    ....
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    pui Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:29 am
    If you view the movie as what it is, a few hours of entertainment, then there is no problem.
    Exactly! Why does everything have to be a conspiracy?
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    Flibmeister Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:29 am
    green_btrfly: actually a lot of the ways christians celebrate their festivals were stolen or layered over the older pagan festivities...

    from A.Pagan.
  15. Profile photo of TIMESWORDSMN
    TIMESWORDSMN Male 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:33 am
    Now... Put your hands on the television set AND BE HEALED!
  16. Profile photo of DJDoubleb
    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:35 am
    Pui, it`s a lot of Christian`s attitude that if it`s not FOR God, then it is AGAINST God. I do not share this thought. I feel God really wants us to ENJOY the gift of life. So he has allowed us to be creative and amuse ourselves.
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    DJDoubleb Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:37 am
    "actually a lot of the ways christians celebrate their festivals were stolen or layered over the older pagan festivities... "

    Not true Flib!

    We hide Easter Eggs because Jesus had High Cholesterol. It`s Biblical... :P
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    lundyjack Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:42 am
    wow...just wow
  19. Profile photo of REBELComx
    REBELComx Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:42 am
    If i wasn`t an anti-theist, i`d be a pagan. It just makes more sense to me than any monotheistic religion. It`s about honoring nature and recognizing your place in it as both a tool and a guardian. It`s generally more openminded and welcoming, more about balance, not eternal punishment or reward. It`s about assigning an archetypal animus to things in nature in order to recognize yourself in it and vice versa. To assign all that responsibility to ONE deity not only shows a lack of imagination and wonder, it`s dangerous. We wouldn`t trust one man with all the power of the government, but we`re going to assign all the power and responsibility over EVERYTHING to one guy? Dangerous and lazy. No creativity there.
    But yeah, almost everything about modern Christianity is stolen from older pagan religions anyway. Not only the holidays and traditions, but most aspects of the story about Christ`s life anyway.
  20. Profile photo of cobrakiller
    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:42 am
    so is he saying james cameron is satan. because he said that satan made it a visually stunning film. if this is true then i must be going to hell because i love all of camerons films (except titanic, wasnt a fan)
  21. Profile photo of Zerocyde
    Zerocyde Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:43 am
    drating religion.
  22. Profile photo of pui
    pui Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:43 am
    DJDoubleb, Yeah that`s just silly. I don`t believe that these things which these people get all up in arms about are really against God or anti religion at all, they just aren`t expressing Christian messages.
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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:50 am
    Oh wow.Another christian halfwit with an agenda!

    "Oh waaah..dosnt fit my world view..must be demonic"

    Idiot!

    Oh and hwkiller. No christian ever made a good argument for anything his or her faith has to offer...ever!
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    odc Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:51 am
    It`s people like him who came to the America and killed the Native Americans for their unobtainium...
  25. Profile photo of AGit
    AGit Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:55 am
    Either pagan or satanic, make your mind up!
  26. Profile photo of pui
    pui Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 8:59 am
    You know, I could twist this around and make it seem like Avatar was FOR religion.

    For example, the good guys spend most of the film fighting for the natives to have the right to their religion and tradition and sacred places. Also, the female scientist there says again and again that there is scientific proof for everything they believe in, enforcing an idea that religion and science can co-exist.

    Just goes to show you can prove anything from nothing if you read between the lines.
  27. Profile photo of alikabul
    alikabul Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:02 am
    NEWSFLASH: There is no god. I can`t believe that sane people think that there`s a magician sitting in heaven who snapped his fingers and suddenly there was life. It takes a little more than that. Just because people can`t grasp the concept of infinity they corrupt the truth to make-up the unknown. It`s ridiculous! Grow up! Don`t believe in santa!
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    falloutchik Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:03 am
    this is pathetic. come on. avatar is as satanic as narnia. if fake jesus jake is evil so is fake jesus aslan. maybe maybe maaaaybe its an allegory since: jake sully=jesus, tree called eywa (similarity to biblical jewish word for God)=god, floaties = holy ghost, there`s a resurection.....etc...stupid pastor can`t even recognize a tribute to his own religion. i bet he HATES narnia.
  29. Profile photo of LtFurpie
    LtFurpie Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:09 am
    Hmmm, Christians are agains books, against science, against logic, and against movies. What positive aspects are left other than worshiping a murderous megolomaniacal insecure deity?
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:10 am
    Ha ha ha ha
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:11 am
    I`m still trying to figure out exactly when chirstians started to think of Paginsm as evil...was it before or after they wiped out the pagans wholesale?

    the message in Avatar is about nature and being closer to it...how far you take it is up to you but get of the "it`s evil" slant.
  32. Profile photo of TokioKoos
    TokioKoos Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:15 am
    Yeah, because what happens in Avatar is true... *rolls eyes*
  33. Profile photo of A3forlife
    A3forlife Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:17 am
    if he knew anything about religion he would know Satan is essentially a Christian construct (brought up in the bible)so Satan actually fall out of the pagan/wiccian realm. there is a very big line between many religions too many times pagan/wicca get mixed up with satanism.
  34. Profile photo of tuxman4
    tuxman4 Male 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:24 am
    I thought Harry Potter was the most pagan movie...

    Really though, doesn`t Christianity have many Pagan rituals and characteristics to it?
  35. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:25 am
    He makes some points, But I don`t believe most people internalize movies into their belief system. If you`re going to the movies to escape reality and/or you actually believe in them, Then your weak minded to begin with.

    Most of us are adults and know the difference between the real world and movies, Or at least I hope we do.

    Besides, Avatar was just a re-telling of the story of Pocahontas anyways.
  36. Profile photo of revdrdark
    revdrdark Male 40-49
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:27 am
    Wh ocares? Paganism is made up too
  37. Profile photo of SPrinkZ
    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:28 am
    This guy is a pathetic mouth-piece.
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    osmandias Male 40-49
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:32 am
    Though I`m with most of you, I`ll have to correct some things:
    1. Easter is a genuine christian holy day. The exact date is given in the bible. Jesus was crucified the day before peshwa and resurected 3 days later.
    2. The_Maddog: "No christian ever made a good argument for anything his or her faith has to offer...ever!" If that where so, christianity wouldn`t have risen to be the #1 religion on earth. For simple minded people christianity offers hope. For the mighty it offers control over people.
  39. Profile photo of DavidXJ
    DavidXJ Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:36 am
    Well, pastor, seeing as this story is science FICTION!, as a Christian, I don`t see this as demonic or pagan. It is story about a fictional world that has, obviously, a fictional god/religion... because it`s FICTION! Christians need to stop being so afraid that every fiction story must be trying to convert our children into wiccians and start worshiping the earth. THEY`RE JUST STORIES!
  40. Profile photo of LuckyDave
    LuckyDave Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:38 am
    You have to remember AGit, for people like this paganism and satanism are one in the same thing. If you`re not for God, you`re with Satan. There is no realization that many people choose neither, and I love how he talks about not being a consumer, then stands in front of people with nice clothes and tells them about his theater and TiVo systems. I`m not going to go back into the God argument, I`ve already stated my position on that several times; but radical Christians just push a button with me, the hypocrisy and blindness that they subject themselves to exceeds even some of that of the radical Muslims. You want to be a messenger? Take a page from Mother Teresa`s book, dump the fancy clothes and hatred to everything that`s not God and -help people-
  41. Profile photo of edana42
    edana42 Female 50-59
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:39 am
    What happened to watching a movie for the "entertainment value?"
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    pui Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:41 am
    Take a page from Mother Teresa`s book, dump the fancy clothes and hatred to everything that`s not God and -help people-

    Well said.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:47 am
    First three seconds I turned it off. NOT this early in the morning. No.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:49 am
    I wonder how much people had to pay that douche bag for a ticket to sit there and listen to him. Satan must be pissed that James Cameron stole his spotlight.
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    edana42 Female 50-59
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:49 am
    Christian holidays were timed with pagan holidays (ie Feast of the Son of Isis- winter solstice - Yule - Mithras - Christmas) to ease the switch. "You can still celebrate the solstice. We`re just gonna call it Christmas."
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 9:50 am
    This video brings back memories from 2001. Just before the first Harry Potter movie was about to be released, my church`s pastor had a sermon fully devoted to showing that Harry Potter was paganistic, satanic nonsense meant to pull children away from God. Yeah, fundy Christian asshats always seem so scared when something more interesting than their own religion crops up. They don`t like competition! All competition is the devil I tell ya!
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    Salted_Eggs Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:00 am
    Nidonemo,
    Agreed, I did the same.

    Also, why do we have to go backwards to show any form of love for people? Didn`t we have more hate back in the pagan days?

    I say we go forward.
  48. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:00 am
    This guy is an idiot.

    That`s all I`m going to say. This video is not worth my creative ability to insult. Its not worth the time to watch, its not worth the critical discussion that`s been attached to it and its not worth the space it takes up on the net.
  49. Profile photo of ggolbez
    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:03 am
    @LuckyDave

    Agnesë Gonxhe Bojaxhiu (aka Teresa), tortured people more than helped. Don`t believe me? Look it up.
  50. Profile photo of KCMonkey13
    KCMonkey13 Female 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:06 am
    Take a page from Mother Teresa`s book, dump the fancy clothes and hatred to everything that`s not God and -help people-


    Well said.

    I agree. I have a poster that says "Stop using Jesus to be a bigoted douche-bag. You give the rest of us a bad name."
  51. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:08 am
    Didn`t we have more hate back in the pagan days?

    Nope.

    What positive aspects are left other than worshiping a murderous megolomaniacal insecure deity?

    You call that a positive aspect?

    If that where so, christianity wouldn`t have risen to be the #1 religion on earth.

    By #1 you can only mean # of followers, in that case the fact that it offers nothing doesn`t restrict how many people follow it. Don`t forget, the general public is stupid.
  52. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:13 am
    Take a page from Mother Teresa`s book, dump the fancy clothes and hatred to everything that`s not God and -help people-

    Actually mother teresa didn`t really help people.

    I recommend a little research, there`s a documentary about her on youtube.
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    Molehouse Male 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:14 am
    This guy is nuts. How can `respecting nature` be evil? If anything Christian`s belief in stewardship (looking after what God has given us) would enfore this.
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    KittenCereal Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:16 am
    idiot.
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    el_monkey Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:36 am
    When I saw Avatar, I didn`t even see it from a religious standpoint .... honestly, I`m Native American and I saw it as a story about how if a different culture (Na`vi = Native Americans) has something someone wants (Settlers), then they will attempt to wipe out the indigenous people to get it.

    How the hell this guy goes off on it being Satanic is just beyond me...
  56. Profile photo of xiquiripat
    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:42 am
    Considering how much Christianity stole from Paganism (like christmas) it`s no suprise they get a little nervous. Esepecially Catholics who are practically pantheists with all their magic saints and angels.
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    agamemnon Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 10:45 am
    This guy is stupid.

    Avatar is also stupid.
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    Nebbie Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 11:21 am
    I think we`re all in agreeance that this guy has no idea what he`s talking about...

    If Avatar is religious, it`s about reconnecting with your god and fighting to protect it. It says in the movie, "The Tree of Souls is their God." They connect with and worship their god... I think we have room to speculate that he never did seen Avatar...
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    trekspoon Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 11:26 am
    lol - tempts you to be a consumer and not generous ... how many home cinema systems did he say he had.

    oh dear fella. maybe should have read that through a little more before you preached it.
  60. Profile photo of kevinoan
    kevinoan Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 11:31 am
    am christian and i just feel bad when people get such convoluted understanding and judgement in the name of christianity. and convince themselves to the point where they think they have the right to convince everyone else.
  61. Profile photo of PhantomX9
    PhantomX9 Male 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 11:37 am
    uh whats wrong with Paganism?
  62. Profile photo of KannaLilly
    KannaLilly Female 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 12:08 pm
    Satan made the visuals good?
    Well, that explains why the film has no soul in it`s story.

    Also, newsflash, non-nice individual, but you can`t create art if you`re under the thumb of fundamentalist censorship.
  63. Profile photo of Heureux
    Heureux Male 40-49
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    March 18, 2010 at 12:19 pm
    if one`s faith is threatened by a movie . . .

    one really has no faith at all.
  64. Profile photo of belunan
    belunan Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 12:39 pm
    So tired of people like this. It doesn`t matter which belief system they`re promoting - their message is always the same: "You suck unless you live like I tell you to, but even then you`ll still suck" and "Yes, we`ll take a personal check".
  65. Profile photo of PaganMomBlog
    PaganMomBlog Female 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 12:41 pm
    I am amused that he alludes pagans as being against technology. Meanwhile many pagans use computers to write their Book of Shadows (if they so have one), use the internet to find other pagans, purchase supplies via internet, and. I, myself, am a technological junkie. I know small time indy movie makers. I own a computer, smartphone, blog, tweet, and facebook like mad. So where is it that pagans don`t like advancement or technology?

    BTW, isn`t there something that Jesus said about excessiveness? I can`t remember the biblical quote off the top of my head but as my Christian hubby and several Christian friends would say, everything in moderation. 3 TiVo`s *might* be a bit excessive.
  66. Profile photo of Thetas
    Thetas Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 12:42 pm
    He`s looking too much in to the movie. Doesn`t even sound like he watched the whole movie. "Human beings are to connect literally with trees and animals and beasts and birds." I don`t remember human beings being able to do that in the movie. Oh yeah, they can`t. I`m pretty sure the point of this wasn`t to seduce people in to worshiping Satan. I think they just did it as part of a sort of cool, futuristic cowboys vs. Indians kind of thing with a love story attached like a modern day Disney`s Pocahontas. Sorry, religious preacher guy, you`re ranting about the wrong things.
  67. Profile photo of bataleon27
    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 12:43 pm
    what in the world is he talking about...
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    BBQ Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 12:54 pm
    Douche
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    kilroy5555 Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 12:56 pm
    The letters of Na vi are also in "Satan Lives." Coincidence???? And the remainder of the unused letters would spell "Sat Les." The meaning is clear.
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    tazo Female 40-49
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    March 18, 2010 at 1:06 pm
    ^5 to belunan
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    alchemist18 Female 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    What a dumb poo.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 1:19 pm
    "How the hell this guy goes off on it being Satanic is just beyond me... "

    You can turn anything into anything if you twist the right aspects of it.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 1:24 pm
    Silly stop being silly!
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    Handsompod Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    He needs to watch that movie again.
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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 1:47 pm
    I can`t believe people this ignorant still exist :l
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    Blakcat71388 Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 1:50 pm
    BAHAHAHAHAA
  77. Profile photo of Kanashto
    Kanashto Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 1:55 pm
    One word: Movie

    Followed by WTF
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 1:56 pm
    So tired of people like this. It doesn`t matter which belief system they`re promoting - their message is always the same: "You suck unless you live like I tell you to, but even then you`ll still suck" and "Yes, we`ll take a personal check".

    Indeed! :D So, what do you do now? What is the obvious solution?
  79. Profile photo of audiosncracy
    audiosncracy Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 2:00 pm
    This automatically reminded me of this:
    George Carlin ftmfw
    Of course we`re all connected. The plants beasts people. We`re all one. It`s not satanic. It`s beautiful. I don`t go around hugging trees or anything but drat this guy. His whole view of reality is skewed. Damn fundamentalists.
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    SebastianLam Male 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 2:15 pm
    Dumb assssssssssss
  81. Profile photo of ZoeLightning
    ZoeLightning Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 2:22 pm
    Those satanic animators and that demon infested CGI.

    Makes me sick...
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    DeutschDude9 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 2:38 pm
    Nice Fohawk bro.
  83. Profile photo of Chaim
    Chaim Male 30-39
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    March 18, 2010 at 2:49 pm
    The Bible is just a book, and Avatar is just a movie. both good stories nothing more.
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    Wassup287 Male 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 3:01 pm
    Who the hell approves these links for i-a-b?
  85. Profile photo of Maksie99
    Maksie99 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    Satan made the visuals to Avatar. Well now I`ve heard everything.
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    blacksteel Male 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 3:15 pm
    I thought the title said plagiarism.
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    DRxSATANx Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 3:53 pm
    im pretty sure satan has nothing to do with paganism besides that satanism shares some of the same beliefs
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    _kiersten_ Female 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 4:14 pm
    @Maksie99 You made me lol. And /obviously/ Satan made the visuals to Avatar..So obvious.

    Side note: I swear people try to come up with anything to whine about.
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    53590 Male 13-17
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    March 18, 2010 at 4:14 pm
    Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:19:44 PM
    "How the hell this guy goes off on it being Satanic is just beyond me... "

    You can turn anything into anything if you twist the right aspects of it.

    Nidonemo, I totally agree with you. The only thing is, How do we know you and everyone else is not just twisting these aspects.

    I`m not trying to start a debate, I just think in order for people to be truly critical they need to consider all possibilities. Instead of assuming what the other side says is wrong.

    I don`t know if that`s where your coming from. though, I do think it`s a problem with people.
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    BJH515 Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 4:22 pm
    This guy has never heard of the Romantic Era
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    bunny_knight Male 18-29
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    March 18, 2010 at 4:33 pm
    we all know satan makes great 3d movies hahahah
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    etnorias Male 18-29
    3 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 5:30 pm
    he is rejecting the fact that christianity and judaism are in fact EASTERN.

    the eastern orthodox fathers talk about being one with nature all the time.
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    lerie Female 18-29
    1265 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 6:39 pm
    I actually like to think that Avatar is Disney`s Pocahontas in space.

    I suppose God and Satan are having a good laugh at his expense.
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    dragosal Male 18-29
    1630 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 6:40 pm
    it upsets me how christianity can take people who are so obviously intelligent and completely destroy their potential
  95. Profile photo of HepaB
    HepaB Male 18-29
    43 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 7:21 pm
    Oh God in heaven, PLEASE!!!!! take all of your people and keep them for yourself. The rest of the world does not want to here this kind of crap. Amen
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    verinon Male 18-29
    335 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 7:39 pm
    If there is a hell, I`ll see you there buddy
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 7:53 pm
    and then you wonder why IAB makes fun of christians
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    iBegrindin Male 18-29
    133 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 8:11 pm
    Can we please just stop all the religious posts on IAB? It`s really quite irksome.
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    Farsidedown Male 18-29
    421 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 8:15 pm
    Awww...don`t be hatin` on Avatar Pastor Mark. It was a good movie that deserved more recognition from the Academy than it got considering how well it did. I saw it twice!

    @Jendrian-maybe it`s because IAB is loaded with Athiests who`s number one source of entertainment is making fun of people who don`t share their views.

    BTW-I bet the guy in this vid totally drives a Hummer or some other ridiculously inefficient vehicle.
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    pottersclay Female 30-39
    109 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 8:37 pm
    that was sickening. I`m christian and i am completely astounded that he would say "Avatar is the most demonic movie I`ve ever seen." I guess people just see things that they want to see. He could have interpreted things from the movie that supported christian beliefs also, but he couldn`t wrap his brain around that. Everything is "worldly" and "of the devil." ugh, that made my blood boil.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9311 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 8:59 pm
    53590: I meant that you can relate something entirely innocent to something entirely evil if you put reasons behind it. They don`t have to be good reasons or even true ones, you just need your audience to believe you.

    One strategy is to get someone very afraid of something, in this instance: Zealots afraid of Satan. Then find something that you don`t want them to follow or enjoy, say a child`s book.

    You can`t just say it`s evil right off the bat, you have to build them up to it, show instances where it may have been evil. Like Harry Potter teaches witchcraft. It doesn`t, it simply has the characters using magic, which is similar to witchcraft, but if your audience already believes you as it is, you can skip over minor details that discredit your entire argument and use flash fear to your advantage.

    This is why it`s so important to sort out facts and evidence and keeping a solid calm mind when you expose yourself to new information.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4007 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 9:18 pm
    A guy who believes in a man who turns water into wine, multiplies fish, walks on water, heals the blind and is the son of an invisible man in the sky; actually can`t grasp the concept that Avatar is a fantasy movie, about made-up things and people and ideas?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    March 18, 2010 at 11:40 pm
    Does your mom really let you dress like that for church? At least tuck in your shirt.
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    Raokin Female 18-29
    456 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 12:00 am
    Didn`t the Vatican come out and say pretty much the exact same thing? The condemned it for promoting nature worshipping religions as a valid alternative to Christianity.
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    pew-pew Male 18-29
    19 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 2:53 am
    The guy is soo right! I mean what`s all the BS about saving society and nature? Let`s invade some other cultures in God`s name! (Aw wait, we already did that several times...)
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    mangamonkey Male 18-29
    124 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 3:17 am
    This just in - religious figures dislike popular stuff....thats a shocker
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    Grimnir Male 18-29
    6 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 3:50 am
    Hail to the Gods. Pagan Pride.

    ..and fu ck these fanatical christians! stupid preacher.

    Don`t forget what Christianity did with Paganism in Europe (and all over the World)! >-(
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    fishgul69 Female 18-29
    914 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 11:23 am
    consumerist hypocrite: "I`ve got 3 Tivos". why would anyone need that many?? and your film crew was shadowing Spartacus? so you`re telling me that you would rather advocate senseless violence, sex and polytheism than peace? methinks pop preachers today are just running out of things to preach about.
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    Avalessa Female 13-17
    491 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 12:51 pm
    Don`t be hatin` on Pagans! We don`t hate on you... Most of the time...
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    idiotfilter Male 18-29
    3916 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 5:50 pm
    that`s what i heard fishgul!
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    xXxcupcakeXx Female 13-17
    81 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 6:47 pm
    bwahaha i love how there`s an ad for imvu that says "get your avatar" :]]
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    twenty12 Male 18-29
    50 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 7:16 pm
    its a movie harry potter is a book and the beatles just made pop music shutup already
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    LaChanteuse Female 18-29
    77 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 10:08 pm
    what`s wrong with Paganism? It makes about 130497% more sense than most organized religions and is a lot more useful in the long run.
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    ctimlock Male 13-17
    41 posts
    March 19, 2010 at 10:43 pm
    Goddamn I want to stab that man in the gums with a screwdriver. At least in Paganism, they recognised that there were different forces behind things, not just one over-ruling all-powerful being.
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    HerColdHands Female 18-29
    471 posts
    March 20, 2010 at 12:32 am
    Why is he so short?
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    Tukikagami Female 18-29
    112 posts
    March 20, 2010 at 10:38 am
    So waaaay back when paganism was large ad in charge and beating down the christians. Now the christians are in charge and beating down the pagans. There, friends, is your love and acceptance from christ. I love and accept you as long as you do what I say, because I am always right.

    Religions of all kinds have been pissing me off since I was old enough to read. But christianity seems to be the worst for it because the followers don`t even practice what the follow. Way to go! Bad religion is bad.
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    Tommasso1618 Male 13-17
    202 posts
    March 20, 2010 at 7:12 pm
    so.... anyone wanna tell him the pine tree most Christians have decorated in their house for Christmas is a pagan symbol?
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    Tommasso1618 Male 13-17
    202 posts
    March 20, 2010 at 7:18 pm
    I was a Christian when i saw that movie...it was during a time where i was questioning religion and stuff.... I was analyzing what exactly it is i believe.... after i saw Avatar, I thought "OMG! YES! That makes so much sense! All energy is only borrowed, and we eventually need to give it back to the universe to make something else!... THATS what the afterlife must be! It makes WAY more sense to me than a heaven..."

    And this was the time in which i was starting to break away from what ive been TOLD is real and try to think for myself completely...

    now, I dont really have a clear idea of what i believe...but i dont think it should be clear... how would anyone have a clear idea of what cant be known?
  119. Profile photo of Tommasso1618
    Tommasso1618 Male 13-17
    202 posts
    March 20, 2010 at 7:23 pm
    And since I use to be a die-hard Christian.... I can say.... this guy is being blinded!

    I mean... Christians DO believe God is in everything! IDIOT! What, you think God made the earth, all these creatures and living things but chose that humans are the only things he cares about? When I was Christian, I believed the earth was sacred... I believed God was in everything... I believed we are all creations of God.
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    Lokiii Male 18-29
    7 posts
    March 20, 2010 at 11:39 pm
    I hate this guy, seriuosly, I want to cause him grievous bodily harm. ARG, Paganism has NOTHING to do with Satan, you ignorant drat! Stop with the bullpoo about pagans worshiping the devil! I worship Thor, I worship Odin. I don`t worship any PART of YOUR religion. YOU made up Satan, so why would people of another faith have ANYTHING to do with it?! You are so full of yourselves, you are too blinded by your own faith to see that every part of it is bullpoo. >.< RAGE. Get the drat off of my screen, non-nice individual!
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    Lokiii Male 18-29
    7 posts
    March 20, 2010 at 11:43 pm
    My comically-censored rant aside, this guy remains a terrorist. He is using fear to control the minds of others. Fear of my religion (Which is fear that is totally unjustified) and fear of that movie. It`s sickening.
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    oogabugaboo Female 18-29
    11 posts
    March 21, 2010 at 3:35 am
    IT`S A MOVIE!!! I`m sorry but I`m a christian I love god I believe in him but.. That movie has no effect what so ever on how I view life -.- it annoys me how he talks..
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
    1360 posts
    March 22, 2010 at 9:33 am
    he`s gay.
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    JannatheGrea Female 18-29
    149 posts
    March 23, 2010 at 12:43 pm
    "I have 85 Tivos and 15 cars and 5 billion dollars in the bank look at meee I loove technology." Yeah? What happened to people living a life of poverty like Jesus did? Giving to people so they can eat instead of giving to the church so their pastor can have his face plastered on more billboards? Idiot. Hypocrite. Most of all, brainwashed. I actually kind of feel sorry for this guy. Joel Olsteen has a 50,000 seat arena for his congregation. 50,000! Do you know how many people would be off the streets if they turned that pile of crap into a 50,000 bed homeless shelter? THINK, people.
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    GRadde Male 18-29
    2556 posts
    April 22, 2010 at 7:19 am
    >oogabogaboo
    I`m with you on this one. -.-`
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    aradia670 Female 18-29
    35 posts
    May 8, 2010 at 4:28 pm
    this coming from the same religious sect that put LOTR in christian magazines. ha!
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    diablito Male 18-29
    37 posts
    August 21, 2010 at 4:14 am
    avatar sucks

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