An Actual Siamese Twins Skeleton [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 7 years ago in Science

A rare look at how a Siamese twins" skeleton is fused together.
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Male 13
Mother Museum? 0.o
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Female 471
...for those of you who dont` know what that is, it`s a medical learning museum. Pretty badass.
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Female 471
The Mutter Museum!
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Female 24
Well jeeeezz. Riiiightt, so apparently the parents didn`t giving a flying fu-- about a funeral and put em up for display? I want them to be my parents!
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Female 437
Does anyone else find it sad that these poor babies havent had a proper funeral or anything.. and they are put up for display.

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Male 7
Not a conjoined twin. Not a Siamese twin, even it was born in Siam. (Why you so racist, Fancy?) Not a twin. Like the sign says, it`s a dicephalic, or 2-headed baby. Only one set of extremities.
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Male 928
"Ya this was from a baby, not a toddler. No teeth is a good clue, but the open anterior fontanelle, the hole at the top of the skull, is a better one.

They look to be no older than a year old. "

You can see that many of the bones did not have a chance to properly develop and several have yet to fuse properly as you would see after a certain age. But really what you have is an already abnormal body where almost anything is possible. The fact that the body did not properly develop from the start means that a lot of features could be altered from what you would expect to see. Pretty interesting to look at.

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Male 2,004
lol at the right head
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Male 102
Ya this was from a baby, not a toddler. No teeth is a good clue, but the open anterior fontanelle, the hole at the top of the skull, is a better one.

They look to be no older than a year old.

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Male 175
hethatisme "you can tell they were infants by the skull on the left"

no teeth in either of the skulls

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Male 26
you can tell they were infants by the skull on the left
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Male 171
Imagine fighting a Siamese twin.... hmm, Which head to punch?
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Female 517
ROFL @theshocker87
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Male 64
is it gay if it masturbates lol
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Female 99
wow, that`s something i never thought i`d see...
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Male 10
These adds are pissing me off
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Male 97
OH poo!
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Male 111
which one would have control over the legs?
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Female 362
these ads are pissing me off are they really necessary?
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Male 5,189
Neato and creppy :D
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Male 354
Wtf ad?
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Male 894
man i would have KILLED my little brother if he was attached to my hip. arsehole
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Male 10,440
This skeleton looks like its from a toddler.

Which is what disturbs me, these twins lived for several years like that before death.

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Male 39
#742
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Female 15,763
Looks like they fought lots...
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Female 4,447
...I got that ad too, SCfan. Not really too keen on it. I like the post, but the pre-ad kind of irked me.
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Male 720
Damn, I was hoping it would be duct tape.
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Male 47
they joiin at the pelvis i wonder ir they shared a penis
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Male 37
so i dont know who won the meaningless argument. but to the loser............. ooooooooo, you gonna take that?

anyways i thought the conjoindamese twins skeleton was pretty cool looking

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Female 336
"WTF is up with the ad before the pic? Another site going down the crapper."

I didn`t see an ad, but maybe that`s just because of my script blocker. I just saw "Click Back or Next to continue". I figure it`s just there to give the really squeamish IAB users a second chance to ask themselves, "Do I really want to see this?"

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Female 336
This reminds me of the Henschel(?) twins, the girls that look like one girl with really wide shoulders and two heads. Betcha these babies would look much the same if they`d survived.
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Male 2,748
Thats crazy! but im not surprised it didnt survive. sharing organs is never good
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Male 741
-ParasyT
DAMMIT
I was going to say that
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Male 185
Creepy as drat.
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Male 619
I think this is at the Mutter Museum, in Philadelphia. That place is fine if you stay in the first 2 rooms. The third room is a place of nightmares.
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Female 1,283
Ah, thanks Genericuser.
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Male 533
BONDED BY BOOD!!!
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Male 48
OMG WILL U 2 STOP WIV THE ARGUING YES U BOTH HAVE GOOD POINTS BUT WHO ACTUALLY CARES!!!?
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Male 383
**interrupts the fight going on** Good album cover...
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Female 1,112
I agree, but I also think that it`s just more accurate.
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Female 3,574
I`m not disagreeing that it might be more offensive, because it very well might be because "Siamese twins" suggests the whole side show thing. Because it may be offensive, we probably should use the more PC term of "conjoined twins".
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Male 2,085
Great pic, yada, yada. WTF is up with the ad before the pic? Another site going down the crapper.
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Female 1,112
Fine pui, I`m not going to argue whether or not the term is logically wrong, because it is. I`m not argue that it`s morally defunct, because it doesn`t matter whether I`m offended or not, it only matters if it offends those it applies to. I think though that we should revise our language choices when we are aware that there is something wrong with what we`re saying. Shouldn`t we strive to be accurate?
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Female 3,574
... Yes but people actually using it [quote]is[/quote] how language works, whether you like it or not.

If you looked up "Siamese twins" in a dictionary or ecyclopedia, you would probably get directed to "conjoined twins", or maybe even vice versa, indicating that they mean pretty much the same thing. Whether or not one term is preferred or makes more "logical" sense really does not matter.

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Female 1,112
What do you mean? If yo mean that people use language wrongly and make it common and then it sort of becomes a standard than yes. But ultimately it`s people who use language wrong and it really does work fairly logically.
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Female 3,574
That is not how language works, though.
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Female 1,112
I hope your being kind in calling me ridiculous, so i won`t take offense, but really, I`m just being logical :)
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Female 3,574
lol you`re ridiculous
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Female 1,112
I am basically coming from a standpoint of accuracy, so "Free from error or fault; true or accurate"
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Male 510
siamese twins comes from a pair called Chang and ang... i think. i have a photo of them in a book. they were the first to use that term since they were in fact from siam.
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Female 2,352
We are Siamese if you please. .X3
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Female 3,574
how exactly are we defining "correct"? lol
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Female 1,112
No, because that would then imply that they were the way they were due to being Siamese, or that conjoined twins originated in Siam, neither of which is true. Besides, back to the rightness or wrongness of the term, it still came from the title they were given in a freak show to entertain white people, do we really want to pay homage to that? I mean call Chang and Eng the Siamese Twins go ahead I guess, but it`s still incorrect when referring to all other conjoined twins. In fact it would be more accurate to say The Siamese conjoined twins, but that`s above and beyond really.
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Female 3,574
Couldn`t you say the term pays homage to the first "popular" Siamese twins?

The "sideshow" aspect just plays into whether or not the term is offensive, not whether or not the term itself is correct.

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Female 1,112
No it`s not, because the term china to refer to pottery is sort of an homage to where the material came from initially. Siamese twins is just an incorrect attribution altogether, but it is compounded by the fact that it came from it`s use in a side show.
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Female 3,574
idk, saying that it isn`t correct because it has the word "Siamese" in it doesn`t make sense to me. That`s like saying a china plate made in England isn`t a china plate.

Whether or not one term is more offensive than the other is another issue intirely

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Female 1,112
Wikipedia is like you said not a reliable example, but from my reading of the article, it merely states that the two terms "came to be used" synonymously, and doesn`t give any insight into the correctness of this use.
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Female 3,574
Well not that Wikipedia is the best example, but it seems to use the two terms in conjunction with each other.
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Female 1,112
Oystah, it shouldn`t be a firestorm considering it really comes down to which is logically the right term. Siamese = of Siam, therefore all Siamese Twins are of Siam. If the twins in question are not of Siam, then they are not Siamese Twins.
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Female 4,039
BTW - did not mean to set off such a firestorm. :(
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Female 4,039
Lori and Dori Schappell don`t like it either. (Dori also has gone by Reba and most recently, George).
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Female 110
"So wouldn`t she have been two people then?"

i think so, she has 2 separate spinal cords like the skeleton, so 2 brains, and 2 different personalities in one body, so i guess she would`ve counted as two people

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Female 1,112
Abigail and Brittany Hensel, who are America`s most well know living conjoined twins don`t like the word because of it`s sideshow overtones. So there`s one example for you.
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Female 3,574
I don`t really think either term is more correct, but I also don`t really care.
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Female 3,574
So wouldn`t she have been two people then?
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Female 110
i knew a girl who was born with 2 heads, both fully functional and completely normal looking, no deformed facial features at all, and she was very healthy
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Female 1,112
pui, why would it matter. If it`s wrong it doesn`t matter how many people you offend.
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Female 1,112
Yeah, that`s why it exists. Grow a brain. Besides as I mentioned before, for the last drating time, it`s got more to do with accuracy than anything.
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Female 3,574
How many living conjoined twins are there in the world to even offend?
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Female 682
it exists b/c white people were afraid of soundeing the tiniest bit rude...geez.
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Female 1,112
It`s true, PC exists for a reason. Did you even read my comments? I never insinuated that I was educating anyone on what the term was, I was pointing out how blatantly wrong the other term is. It`d be like me going to barbados and calling them africans, because we don`t differentiate up here. It`s just wrong and lazy. Also the skeleton is real. Why would they fake something that is a real condidtion. It`s not like a mermaid fish or something.
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Male 25,416
Wow, thats like a scene in a horror movie!
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Male 10
Actually, bumbleBB, I believe they prefer to be called "2-headed-monsters."
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Male 153
political correctness exists for a reason. I did ur mom lastnight.
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Female 3,828
woah thats amazing.
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Male 2,056
That would be scary to live like that(i only say that because i`ve never been through it.)

:|

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Female 682
hey, bumbleBB.....yeah, not to burst ur bubble but almost everyone knows the politically correct term for this medical condition. I think that if everyone was just a little less pc, everyone would be a little bit happier...geez...Plus, this skeleton looks faked and judging by the size ratio of the skulls and body, this looks like the joined bodies of two small children. the bone sizes are two warped to be the real thing...maybe more than two bodies were used..eh, who really knows?...
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Female 5,222
they look like children :(
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Female 1,112
Pyrosisflame, you`re right 1 egg, incomplete split.
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Male 707
they look so sad =C
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Female 1,112
Saying Siamese Twin became more synonymous with freak show than anything else. Besides being politically incorrect, which I generally don`t care about, it`s just plain wrong. I doubt these twins are from Siam, and therefore are just conjoined twins. It`s not about lightening up, it`s about education. Besides we gawk and stare at these people enough without putting freak show titles on them.

"The term comes from Chang and Eng Bunker who were the first two globally famous and studied conjoined twins."

Actually they were first "discovered" and given work in a freak show where they were billed as the Siamese Twins. Billing them as such gave them an exotic edge for westerners who imagine the eastern world to be full of anomalies like Chang and Eng, giving them a superiority complex.

Why not just be accurate?

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Male 592
genericuser
Female, 13-17, Eastern US
153 Posts Monday, March 1, 2010 11:51:56 AM
Technically it`s conjoined twins, but it is not that bad to use the colloquial term.
@Skreshavik - in utero, two fertilized eggs are stuck together and fail to grow seperately.

i thought it was a egg that failed to split apart into 2 identical twins) because if it was two separate eggs they would not look identical because of the differences in the genes from individual sperm and eggs.

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Female 20
I am not really sure how Siamese twin is politically incorrect. The term comes from Chang and Eng Bunker who were the first two globally famous and studied conjoined twins. The name is synomynous with conjoined twin. While it may be incorrect to call someone a Siamese twin if they are not from Thailand, I do not see how it is an offensive term. Lighten up.
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Female 20
Do we know what age this person...um people...were when they died? Insane.
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Male 964
Thats pretty sick but awesome all the same!
Is it just me or do they have over sized heads?
Is that normal for Siamese Twins?
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Female 317
Technically it`s conjoined twins, but it is not that bad to use the colloquial term.
@Skreshavik - in utero, two fertilized eggs are stuck together and fail to grow seperately.
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Male 795
Freaky. But cool.
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Male 2,313
That is pretty cool.
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Female 34
That`s insane! Two legs, Two spines! :) Weirrrrrd!
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Female 1,071
What`s non-PC about Siamese twins? Sorry for the potential noob-question there...
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Female 1,283
What causes the spinal cord to split and develop two like that?
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Female 1,112
Yeah I gotta say, using the term Siamese Twins is pretty bad.
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Male 335
If you like this go to the Mutter Museum in Philly, it`s full of this stuff. This may even be from there.
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Male 594
"I`m calling fake. But idk."

Wow, why would it be fake? google conjoined twins.. Or better yet, visit a anatomical museum.. B-|

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Female 444
Ouch, their necks oughta have hurt!
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Female 1,008
This could only be better if we had a three-sixty view.
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Female 4,039
Conjoined twins, people - let`s keep this politically correct!
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Male 64
wow.
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Male 145
to bad their brains were not linked and had the capacity to operate simultaneously under the power of one person, that would be sweet.

like how you can do something with your left hand and something else with your right hand at the same time(please refrain iab)you could learn something with your left brain and learn something else with your right brain, but use the information in either at will and share the knowledge between brains to be some sort of super human creature. i think if we meet aliens like that we will become their slaves.

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Female 326
Interesting. I wonder how old it is? (the skeleton, not how old the kids were when they died)
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Male 1,958
Well then
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Female 1,677
Creeepy.
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Male 1,043
Neither you put it in Saw,
Or you destroy it and make us forget this :s
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Female 291
Totally toddlers but a good look at it. I find the abnormalities in living creatures fascinating =D
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Male 5,094
They look so sad!
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Male 15,510
Everybody is going to look that way in the future
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Male 1,929
Awesome.
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Male 1,931
I`m calling fake. But idk.
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Female 3,574
[quote]That looks small enough to be a set of toddler siamese twins.. :([/quote]

Well that is not surprising since most siamese twins don`t live very long.

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Female 2,509
It`s ALIVE!!!
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Male 10
creeeeeepy...
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Female 65
That looks small enough to be a set of toddler siamese twins.. :(
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Female 3,574
cooooooooool
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Male 20,900
Link: An Actual Siamese Twins Skeleton [Pic] [Rate Link] - A rare look at how a Siamese twins` skeleton is fused together.
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