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Date: 02/19/10 09:01 AM

50 Responses to Yesterday`s Texas IRS Crash Man`s Manifesto

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    madest Male 40-49
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    February 18, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    Link: Yesterday`s Texas IRS Crash Man`s Manifesto - Yesterday, a guy set his house and family on fire and flew his plane in an IRS building. Here`s his written explanation.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
    1677 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 9:15 am
    6 pages? I thought this site was supposed to REDUCE boredom
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    February 19, 2010 at 9:18 am
    what is this all about? it seems too long, and i just woke up, so i don`t want to read it.
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    pmarren Male 40-49
    4575 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 9:25 am
    Screw it. I`m not reading it. I got as far as "If you are reading this, you are no doubt thinking "Why did this have to happen?"".

    Oops, wrong already dipwad, I was thinking "What a goddam moron."

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    Volsunga Male 18-29
    1548 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 9:37 am
    tl;dr
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    bliznik Male 30-39
    869 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 9:40 am
    It`s surprisingly lucid for a terrorist
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    beckpratt Female 18-29
    204 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 9:51 am
    Anyone who thinks this guy is a crackpot or a moron NEEDS to read the letter. It is a cry of desperation, and makes good, valid points. It is eloquently written and not by some "psycho". Though I do not condone the behavior, my sympathies are with him.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
    2441 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:13 am
    I can safely say that 99% of Americans would love to have every IRS building burn to the ground. Why? Because we f*cking HATE the IRS! It`s bullsh*t!
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    optix_reverb Male 18-29
    263 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:23 am
    "what is this all about? it seems too long, and i just woke up, so i don`t want to read it." so you couldn`t take 5 min on a site you would probably spend at least an hour on to actually be informed. Don`t go bitching when the government screws you over and no one seems to care or listen. Don`t think it`s going to happen ? post again when you don`t have any social security by the time you are ready to retire.
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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
    3256 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:27 am
    @almost every commenter here

    "tl;dr, staying ignorant is much better and easier than actively gaining knowledge. Not being a retarded waste of space is REALLY hard, bro..."

    fixt

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    Aus10816 Male 18-29
    639 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:28 am
    He didn`t set his family on fire. His wife and step daughter are fine. Well except for being homeless and confused.

    I drove past the building yesterday by the way. You could see the smoke for miles.

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    Oystah Female 40-49
    4032 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:31 am
    Guy`s a Grade A Douche.

    That`s a real narsicistic (sp.?) way to commit suicide. If he wanted to kill himself then go ahead and get on with it - don`t try and take innocent people with you.

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    joey7415963 Male 18-29
    174 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:33 am
    Not being a `crackpot` implies that you can control yourself. It`s evident he had issues but he still acted irrationally.
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    ProXLaw Male 30-39
    122 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:34 am
    The frustration we feel is worsened by the fact that there`s no one person to aim your anger toward. We all want someone to blame. What you DON`T do is fly your plane into the side of a building to kill innocent ppl. The IRS isn`t comprised of those 200 people in Austin, TX.
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    TopperHey Male 18-29
    1930 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:46 am
    Oh, if only he had cleared the building first. Then I would have absolutely loved it.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10441 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:56 am
    AARRGG! Why must I be reminded again and again in every other post how much America sucks?!

    The truth is I don`t want it to.

    If you are smart enough you`ll leave, as this guy should have - to Canada, or better - to Europe.

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    RyanHake Male 18-29
    2690 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:56 am
    Not only did we have this going on, but we also had a train derail near Galveston the same day. Grrrr.
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    ProXLaw Male 30-39
    122 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 11:01 am
    Hey LazyMe484, can you get me a job up there? :-)
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    BlueJack Female 18-29
    385 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 11:28 am
    oooooooo 6 pages?! can someone summary this? i doubt my attention span will let me get past page 1.
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    Sordyh Male 18-29
    25 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 11:52 am
    This man is the epitome of a bitch. We ALL suffer from the government`s stupidity. And let`s be honest: He could afford a Cherokee 140, so he must not be THAT strapped. And even if he was, he could sell the plane. Rather, he bitched out and hurt 2 if not 3 people, and made his wife and kids suffer from the loss of the home he burnt down. I don`t care how many boo-hoo excuses are made, he is a coward that ended his life so he didn`t have to face the day-to-day bullpoo all of us deal with.
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    MrTwidget Male 30-39
    795 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 12:18 pm
    I agree with everything he said. I don`t agree with what he did, but he makes an interesting point.
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    Snow_Crash Female 18-29
    211 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 12:27 pm
    In history class I was taught that one of the biggest impacts of the Black Plauge was that fact that it could affect anyone. Even kings and clergy, whom everyone thought were invincable, suffered and died. My teacher said the plauge acted as an equalizer, and helped set the stage for the liberal views of the Renaissance.

    That`s what America needs, metaphorically speaking; a plauge.

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    gatorade777 Male 18-29
    1194 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 12:38 pm
    now everyone else in that area has to pay taxes to rebuild his damages. selfish man.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    February 19, 2010 at 1:33 pm
    2 long!
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
    2035 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 1:48 pm
    Man up, bitch.
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    Tonyjet Male 18-29
    3298 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 2:00 pm
    "We ALL suffer from the government`s stupidity"

    yeah but we do nothing about it. i am not saying to crash a plane into the IRS (although is probably the most effective way to call their attention) but we can all at least try

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    swifttwist Male 18-29
    16 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 2:14 pm
    Holy poo, that was a good read. That guy did something I never could do GET EDUCATED about the poo wrong here in the US. Look where it got him for trying. I wonder if I will be alive the day this poo stops.
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    daisy822 Female 13-17
    1043 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 3:22 pm
    so...to fight taxes, he gives austin MORE taxes to pay for the mess he caused?
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 3:35 pm
    "`In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes." - Ben Franklin

    He had a house and a plane how poor is he & the people he attacked were workers not anyone with more money than him.

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    revdrdark Male 40-49
    691 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 5:27 pm
    This man was far from insane. He was a patriot. The real thing.
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    ElSombrero Male 13-17
    716 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 5:28 pm
    Okay... yes... we know the system`s broken.

    However... flying a plane into a building doesn`t fix things... as a matter of fact, it makes them more broken.

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    SuperSmash Male 18-29
    3758 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 5:35 pm
    On the local news last night they had a story that basically said, "Well, the IRS does kinda suck."
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    SuperSmash Male 18-29
    3758 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 5:37 pm
    Imagine what this guy would be like if we had universal health care.
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    hi2pi Male 30-39
    736 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 8:00 pm
    this isn`t terrorism? this isn`t an attack on the very heart of the administrative structure of the american government? what would y`all say if that guy just happened to be named muhammed something? or barack something, lol.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
    9308 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 8:03 pm
    After reading the entire document, I unfortunately don`t understand half of what he said. It`s way over my comprehension, and I feel frustrated because I`d love to know exactly what he meant.
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3431 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 9:43 pm
    "Violence isn`t only the answer, it`s the only answer."

    I am sympathetic to a lot of his angst, but I don`t think the I.R.S. is specifically to blame. The Government is too big, cumbersome and disorganized. We need to stream line it, localize it, and provide 100% transparency in every transaction.

    However, as grim as it may seem, it`s still a hell of a lot better than it could be.

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    aseirinn Male 70 & Over
    877 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 10:37 pm
    is it true that americans have to pay theyre taxes when ordered to do so by a court of law?...and the reason for this is your courts have `admiriality law`. i belive it has something to do with the gold fringe that surrounds your flag that only appears in your courts...if this isnt the case feel free to correct me...
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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
    1284 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 11:36 pm
    Nidonemo, what he meant was that this country is all effed up, from childhood to adulthood. Taxes, what you`re labeled for speaking up against the system.
    After he graduated, he was just another nameless figure with a sh*tty degree that was said to give him a lot of dough.
    He had to use his savings and retirement funding to give him his survival needs. After this, it seems like he tried a new business and declined professional help, which further put him in money problems.
    He goes off to rant more about the inability of government workers and the overall screwing that Big Brother does.
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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
    1284 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 11:38 pm
    In my opinion, flying a plane into sh*t isn`t your best solution.
    Sordyh summed it up quite nicely on what I`m thinking:
    Friday, February 19, 2010 11:52:56 AM
    "This man is the epitome of a bitch. We ALL suffer from the government`s stupidity. And let`s be honest: He could afford a Cherokee 140, so he must not be THAT strapped. And even if he was, he could sell the plane. Rather, he bitched out and hurt 2 if not 3 people, and made his wife and kids suffer from the loss of the home he burnt down. I don`t care how many boo-hoo excuses are made, he is a coward that ended his life so he didn`t have to face the day-to-day bullpoo all of us deal with."

    How do you italicize lol?

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    Subushie Male 18-29
    1646 posts
    February 19, 2010 at 11:56 pm
    "These days anyone who really stands up for that principal is promptly labeled a "crackpot" traitor, or worse."

    yes... because people who refuse to accept the laws of society are mentally damaged and do insane things like set houses on fire and crash planes into buildings. for us to survive as a species, laws and government must exist.

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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    February 20, 2010 at 7:35 am
    I am a Marine, sworn to defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, etc. But I have to say, this manifesto does not seem all that crazy. I am not at all condoning what he did or the action he took afterward, but I can relate to the angst, the anger and frustration; as I am sure many can.

    The only thing I am worried about is that the hardliners will take this as a signal to rally and take further action. That manifesto right there... it may as well have been my Father talking the ENTIRE way through it! Scary to think about because come to think of it, there are plenty of people who feel this way. A dime a dozen.

    You watch, this man will be a hero to many people.

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    Luniz82 Male 18-29
    588 posts
    February 20, 2010 at 9:13 am
    After being screwed his whole life by the government that is supposed to protect him he decides to stand up for his self. Unless things change I suspect things to get a lot worse domestically, which is the last thing the country needs right now but we the people are being left with little choice.
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    Phranky Male 40-49
    62 posts
    February 20, 2010 at 9:17 am
    I don`t disagree with a lot he said, average people get shafted and rich fly into DC on private jets to explain how they screwed up and need us to bail them out for a couple hundred billion.

    Phrankly - I`d put them all away with Madoff, there`s a line between incompetence (i.e, you`re fired) and negligence (you`re going to jail) and all the top execs should be in prison with all their assets confiscated.

    Or do like the Chinese do - put a bullet in the back of the corrupt crooks!

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    oxyl Male 30-39
    915 posts
    February 20, 2010 at 10:18 am
    there is a big difference between standing up for yourself and flying a plane into a fuc king building thank you
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    RdDan Male 30-39
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    February 20, 2010 at 4:52 pm
    I`ve been screwed, i know what i`ll do to get even - i`ll attempt mass murder. That makes sense, a completely normal act of retaliation.
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    Mantistador Male 18-29
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    February 20, 2010 at 7:04 pm
    I don`t want to read it all, someone sum it up for me in 5 words or less...
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    February 21, 2010 at 7:05 am
    TL/DR
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    GirlieMutant Female 18-29
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    February 21, 2010 at 8:52 am
    HOLY POO! YELLOW!!
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    idiotfilter Male 18-29
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    February 21, 2010 at 9:35 pm
    it says how his entire life big government has repeatedly tricked him and either erased his retire funds or dashed his hopes and dreams...many times....

    his whole article is truth...but i don`t condone what he did.....

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    d4z3d Male 18-29
    28 posts
    June 8, 2010 at 12:36 pm
    "I`ve been screwed, i know what i`ll do to get even - i`ll attempt mass murder. That makes sense, a completely normal act of retaliation."

    either you`re a total dumb shhit or you didn`t read the letter

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