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112 Responses to Woman Pierced Her `Gothic Kittens,` Goes On Trial

  1. Profile photo of edana42
    edana42 Female 50-59
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    February 26, 2010 at 4:21 pm
    Link: Woman Pierced Her `Gothic Kittens,` Goes On Trial - So I guess when you crop and dock a doberman, it doesn`t hurt. Same thing or different?
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    TopperHey Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:07 am
    Stupid arse of a woman.
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    DaisyDope Female 13-17
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:12 am
    thats cruel.. thats all there is to say :/
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    OmgZelda Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:12 am
    o-o I hope this woman is put away for a very long time.

    It`s completely different when dobermans are cropped and docked, it`s a surgery. Performed with anesthesia.

    Poor kittens. ;-;

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    Smileyguy1 Male 30-39
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:14 am
    Ya know...I don`t care if people go nuts with body piercing and other alterations on themselves, but to do so to an animal is cruel, vile and totally inhumane.
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    LtFurpie Male 30-39
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:15 am
    A bell stuck to my cat`s ear... she would have a ball of a time!!!
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:15 am
    Pinched ears and cropped tails are ok though. It is funny how equally horribly common practice things are ok with people.
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    iplaymusic Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:32 am
    This has been in PA news for months.

    Her emo puppies didn`t go well ether.

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    xBlackedx Female 13-17
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:35 am
    I totally thought this was going to be something else...Gothic `kittens`.
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    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:36 am
    "It`s completely different when dobermans are cropped and docked, it`s a surgery. Performed with anesthesia."

    Eff that! They still go through recovery which it painful, more painful than needles (not that I`m condoning this bitch). We do this poo to dogs because it looks nice which is drated up beyond all reason.

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    Zepher Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:37 am
    actually the pinched ears and cropped tails aren`t okay either, i believe most states have a ban on pinched ears any more... dunno about tail cropping, but lots of people have even stopped caring for the short tails anyways
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    Antonin Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:44 am
    This is the most ridiculous thing I`ve seen in a long time.
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    keith2 Male 30-39
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:45 am
    what an idiot i hope they lock her ass up
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    Chaos7 Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:57 am
    LIFE FAIL
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    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:03 am
    Know what would be cool? a hairless cat with tattoos...

    lol im just kidding, of course.. but for some reason that just popped into my head. lol.

    I think its stupid how in some states animals are "property" and can be killed and kept in puppy mills and stuff.

    "Gothic kittens" what an idiot...

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    KekS Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:04 am
    My friend`s cat had it`s ear pierced (by another cat`s bite, not intentionally), so he put a small barbell in there, which he had to remove later, since the cat was trying to pull it out. I doubt that piercings were too painful to the kittens: ears and back of a neck are probably the least sensitive areas of an average cat; but a cat can`t clean and sanitize it`s piercing, an infection is unavoidable and it`s never good. Besides, those piercings don`t even look that good, and if you want to embarrass your cat, just dress it up in some ridiculous outfit, no need to poke it with needles.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:18 am
    PETA does good again.
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    akijade Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:19 am
    That`s stupid. But a good point with the comparison to dobermans. Why isn`t cropping the ears and docking the tails of dogs illegal? Or declawing cats? You`re amputating their fingers! Respectible vets won`t declaw a cat, but it`s not illegal.
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    SammyCyanide Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:32 am
    My friend`s cat had it`s ear pierced (by another cat`s bite, not intentionally), so he put a small barbell in there, which he had to remove later, since the cat was trying to pull it out. I doubt that piercings were too painful to the kittens: ears and back of a neck are probably the least sensitive areas of an average cat; but a cat can`t clean and sanitize it`s piercing, an infection is unavoidable and it`s never good. Besides, those piercings don`t even look that good, and if you want to embarrass your cat, just dress it up in some ridiculous outfit, no need to poke it with needles.


    Understandable, but the wounds got infected. I love animals and I wouldn`t dare think of inflicting anything close to this upon one. Piercings and tattoos are a conscious decision by humans- not animals. Regardless of if the actual piercing hurt the barbells were debilitating and caused infection that could have lead to death.

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    lockedup Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:38 am
    Their poor ears! Being weighed down by those barbells... yuck! And that neck piercing is just plain cruel! That poor kitten wouldn`t know what to think... The ears and tail, I can understand. It`s stupid but I understand. The neck piercing is just going too far.
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    LaChanteuse Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:40 am
    Why is it ok to put rubber bands around lambs` tails so they fall off? Why can farmers put tags in their cows`s ears by piercing them? Why can dogs ears be cropped and their tails docked...at birth? Why can we pierce babies`s ears, when they obviously have no say?
    No, I don`t think it`s right at all, but I REALLY don`t think that the perseccution should make such a big deal about it.
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    DarkFerret Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:50 am
    the only problem i see with this is the size of the jewelry used... they`re huge! and how is this any different from dressing a dog up in clothes and putting boots on them so they can`t walk... and when PETA is involved, you know you are gonna get boned in the rear no matter what. PETA needs to not be so freakin hardcore
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    green_batman Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:57 am
    That woman is an idiot. Saying that she meant no harm when she was trying to make one of the cats` tail fall off is stupid. The piercings look pretty stupid too.
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    tyrannus Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 12:21 pm
    It should be noted that docking and cropping of ears and tails of dogs is now illegal in many countries (UK and Norway, assuming rest of Europe).
    As for tagging cows, it beats the hell out of branding them.
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    punkipenguin Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 12:28 pm
    vile bitch. i want to poke holes in her. i think it would be neat, and it probably wouldn`t hurt. >_<

    it`s not cool to dock ears and tails on dogs, or declaw cats. if you do that to your animal, the same should be done to you. how many parents do you see having their hideous children`s ears clipped when they grow into satellites? zero. animals are no different.

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    punkipenguin Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 12:29 pm
    darkferret, the gauge isn`t the only problem. those kittens didn`t ask to be pierced. they had no choice, and i highly doubt they enjoyed it. wtf is wrong with you?
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    feedee88 Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 12:38 pm
    i hope this "lady" gets the maximum punishment possible. why on earth would you want to do this to something that is so cute (not only that but i agree punkipenguin - they hardly asked to be put through so much pain. >:-( people like her make me so angry
  28. Profile photo of NinthMoon
    NinthMoon Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 12:46 pm
    What if they put a rubber band at the height of her shoulder to make her arm fall out? Gah. Idiot.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    February 27, 2010 at 1:09 pm
    Its not that bad, given they have people who cut the tails off of dogs!
  30. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    February 27, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Why is nobody crying about the cruelty of piercing HUMAN BABIES??

    Why is that legal and accepted. Do you really care more about pets than BABIES?

    Does the law really protect animals more than BABIES?

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    phoenixvirus Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 1:18 pm
    Declawing and tagging are nothing like what this moron did; those procedures are done with anaesthetic and sterilized instruments by professionals, and serve some purpose (ID, keeping cats from clawing other animals). Interestingly, peta thinks it`s just grand to use rubber bands to dock lambs` tails over a period of days or weeks rather than just snipping them off and using painkillers. Poor kittens, surrounded by idiots.
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    NinthMoon Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 1:35 pm
    The hell? Babies are not put such BIG pieces of metal in their faces through holes poked with non sterilized needles. This kitties, on the other side, had to suffer exactly that.
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    greenspark82 Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 1:43 pm
    sick muddah fckr
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    February 27, 2010 at 1:56 pm
    They should put a rubber band round her neck till her head falls off. Not that you`d notice a significant decrease in intellectual capacity.
  35. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    February 27, 2010 at 1:57 pm
    So I guess we`re not not going to talk about circumcision? Talk about cropping your tail LOL.

    Remember that you are applying `American` values to this discussion. Some places EAT cat. I don`t think those places would be arresting anyone for piercing them.

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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    February 27, 2010 at 2:00 pm
    And this from NC (many other places too):

    Is ear cropping (also known as ear tipping) mandatory for feral cats?
    Yes! The ear crop identifies feral cats that have been sterilized and vaccinated.....

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    hazeofwar Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 2:01 pm
    @nettech98
    I`m not going to bother insulting you, but just stop. You`re making a fool out of yourself.

    @no one in particular
    This is just sick. I almost threw up when I saw this. I`m almost at a loss for words.

  38. Profile photo of Frogtango
    Frogtango Male 13-17
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    February 27, 2010 at 2:04 pm
    Crazy woman. They should tie an elastic band around her neck and see how she likes no blood and it falling off.
  39. Profile photo of ElSombrero
    ElSombrero Male 13-17
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    February 27, 2010 at 2:15 pm
    I just personally see no sense in sticking metal needles through something.

    While I agree it wasn`t probably malicious, but all those piercings, especially the ear ones, must be a pain for the cat.

    Plus... really... gothic kittens? Really?

  40. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    February 27, 2010 at 2:17 pm
    OK. Everyone is crying over kittens with piercings and how the woman should basically burn in hell for what she did, yet this goes on every day - and worse - with humans and it`s ok?

    Where are everyone`s priorities??

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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    February 27, 2010 at 2:19 pm
    The article says to poor kitten`s hearing will be affected by a small hole in it (which will heal anyway), yet `humane` societies crop the ears of cats that live in the wild who really need their hearing?

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    JaundiceCake Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 2:42 pm
    "The article says to poor kitten`s hearing will be affected by a small hole in it (which will heal anyway), yet `humane` societies crop the ears of cats that live in the wild who really need their hearing?"

    Only the tip of the ear is cut to determine which animals were fixed in the wild. Not every humane society practices the `catch, fix, release` method, and not every one crops the ears.

    Furthermore, putting giant gauges on an ear so that it folds and damages cartilage and even capillaries in the ear IS damaging to the ability of the kitten.

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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    February 27, 2010 at 2:55 pm
    I have no problems with the tail and ears, but the the neck is a problem. The animals were modified for monetary reasons, and that is cruel, but the rest, is just a big pile of streaming BS.
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    SomeShoes Male 13-17
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    February 27, 2010 at 2:58 pm
    why does she look just like how i thought she might?
    and i STILL dont see the point in piercings
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    Slmmhmmr161 Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 3:06 pm
    Nettech, what societies crop wild cat ears?
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    GothicQueen Male 13-17
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    February 27, 2010 at 3:16 pm
    I thought I read this somewhere awhile back and thought it was fake. Guess it was real. She`s a freaking idiot.
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 3:28 pm
    one word for ya: PETA
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    ukulelemike Male 40-49
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    February 27, 2010 at 3:44 pm
    Slmmhmmr161: OUR society does. I have three cats, farm cats, that, when I got them fixed, had their ears cropped, or the tips cut off. The idea is that, if wild, when people catch them to be fixed, the tip being cut shows that they are already fixed, and are returned. It isn`t enough to harm their hearing, any more than if my ear lost the tip.
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    cheese6969 Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 3:47 pm
    wow i love cats and that kinda makes me wanna cry :`(
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    RG900 Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 4:04 pm
    thats messed uppp
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 4:51 pm
    "The idea is that, if wild, when people catch them to be fixed, the tip being cut shows that they are already fixed, and are returned. It isn`t enough to harm their hearing, any more than if my ear lost the tip."

    ...they can`t just reach under and check the prostate or look for a surgical scar?

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    LuckyDave Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 5:22 pm
    I have a thing about PETA being a bunch of stupid, impressionable people who never learned to grow up, but even I have to be on their side on this one.
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    feiku Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 5:29 pm
    Anyone who thinks declawing is `ok` and serves some purpose hasn`t done a lot of research otherwise. Claws for cats are essential for their balance and even confidence. When it comes down to it, people declaw cats because they don`t want them ruining their `pretty furniture`.

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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 5:30 pm
    "In an interview with The Associated Press a year ago, Crawford said she didn’t think there was a difference between piercing a cat or a human."

    In a way, if it was done right and not by a complete idiot, I can see why this argument would be valid. But I doubt there`s a right way to pierce a cat, a way that doesn`t affect their lives.

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    lundyjack Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 5:38 pm
    :< why?
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    lemonstand Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 5:50 pm
    Kay, i`ll admit... maybe a SMALL piercing on the ear wouldn`t be so bad... the rest is horrible.. and the size of the gauge is sad...
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    NatashaSan Female 30-39
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    February 27, 2010 at 6:01 pm
    @feiku I totally agree with you on the declawing thing. It`s barbaric. I live in an apartment and the only changes I have made to my cat since I got him was getting him microchipped and putting Softpaws on his nails so he can`t claw my leather furniture. Plus it`s impossible to play with him unless he has his Softpaws on. And when I eventually move into a house and he can go outside I can take the Softpaws off and he`ll be able to actually protect himself if he gets into trouble.
  58. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    February 27, 2010 at 6:55 pm
    "any more than if my ear lost the tip."

    Actually the ears of hunters (cats included) are shaped and function very differently than humans. The shape of the ear `funnels` the sound into the ear. Thats also why they pivot independently. Never seen a human do that. So removing the tip of the ear at the very least would result in unequal hearing.

    For a house cat - big deal. Fluffy can still hear the can opener and run to the kitchen. Likewise is fluffy is pierced. For an animal that relies on its ears for food, it could make a difference.

    Imagine the poor fox with unequal hearing

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    thelonious Male 40-49
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    February 27, 2010 at 7:10 pm
    Humans and animals, sheesh. If those kittens were killer whales they`d let her know what`s up!
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    propagandi Male 40-49
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    February 27, 2010 at 7:36 pm
    "Gothic Kitten" New euphemism for ... well ... you know. I may be "Tossing the Turtle" all night.
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    Zuki Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 8:05 pm
    I think its ridiculous that this is even going to trial. Those piercings aren`t hurting the kitten. This is no worse then a mother having her baby`s ears pierced when they are babies.

    This lady was just trying to make some money and give the cats homes. They are pets and PETA, once again, goes to far.

    The article is disgusting, making the lady out to be this cruel heartless woman and that`s not the case at all.

    This is just retarded. They are belly rings, not even that big. I hate to tell people but the rubber band thing on the tail, thats how docking is done on sheep as well as cows. It`s not going to hurt the cat in the long run.

    It`s just an animal. Its wrong that people are more worried about a cat rather then the human who`s life they are ruining.

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    ROK9 Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 8:08 pm
    well is good to hear that pera came throug now there going to talke the cats kill them and put them in their gigant freezer
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    _kiersten_ Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 8:12 pm
    Poor Poor kitties :( Some people just shouldn`t be allowed to have animals. This is awful.
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    CallieRachel Female 13-17
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    February 27, 2010 at 8:14 pm
    Aw, that`s so sad... :<
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    AndelleRae Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 8:24 pm
    "When it comes down to it, people declaw cats because they don`t want them ruining their `pretty furniture`."

    Or, you know, they`ve had the cat for awhile and suddenly they have a child. Typically people aren`t going to want to get rid of a pet they`ve raised and loved for years, but they also don`t want the jealous cat to claw the hell out of their newborn baby, so they get them declawed.

    Not everyone has stupid reasons behind what they do.

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    u_jesse_u Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 8:30 pm
    Zuki, put a rubber band around your finger real tight and leave it there until your finger falls off. Let me know how much it doesn`t hurt. Should take a while, but I`ll wait.
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    Zuki Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 8:37 pm
    Never said it wasn`t going to hurt. I said it wasn`t going to hurt the animal in the long run. Here, let me make myself a little more clear.

    The rubber band, while hurting for a little while, will eventually loose all feeling and fall off, leaving the cat other wise fine, healthy, and not dead. In other words, fine to live a perfectly happy life.

    As I said. I think people need to be more concerned with the HUMAN BEING that is put through this ordeal rather then the cats.

  68. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    February 27, 2010 at 8:57 pm
    OK. Reality check. `Rubber bands` are one method used to castrate bulls.

    "Elastrator. The elastrators can also be used as a bloodless method of castration for many producers that castrate at an early age. This method also shuts off the blood supply to the testicle and causes the scrotum to fall off (10 to 14 days) or is required to be cut off after several days. To use the elastrators, restrain the calf, expand or stretch the elastrator band and place both testicles through the band. Then release the band from the elastrator and around the scrotum."

    However horrible someone finds what is done to house pets, there is always something worse. Nobody complains as loudly because it ends up on your dinner plate, or because it happens in another country.

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    66stang Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 9:01 pm
    I don`t hear anyone crying for steers. their genitals are removed the same way these cat`s tails were. And 1000 dollars to rehabilitate them? really? Are they going to care and nuture them for the rest of their lives too? no they`re probably going to stick them in a pound where they will be dead within a week. Why not skips the first step and go to the last? 10 bucks gets you 500 rounds of .22`s and another 5 will get you a shovel. that leaves 985 sollars from this case alone to take care of more important issues, like the homeless, abused women/children, etc.
    PS I`m not justifying her actions, just questioning the wastefulness of their`s.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
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    February 27, 2010 at 9:16 pm
    Geez you Brits are sooo whacked. It`s okay to tattoo and body mod your kid. Do it to an animal and your screwed.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    February 27, 2010 at 9:28 pm
    Brits? The woman in question is from PA. Perhaps you`re confused by the article from a foreign source?
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    Molly2mcb Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 9:36 pm
    "OK. Everyone is crying over kittens with piercings and how the woman should basically burn in hell for what she did, yet this goes on every day - and worse - with humans and it`s ok?

    Where are everyone`s priorities??"

    ----

    This article isn`t about humans! If it was then of course I would be just as upset if not more so (depending on the circumstances!! It pisses me off that you think I shouldn`t be allowed to show compassion to other species...do NOT make the assumption that because we feel this woman was wrong that we automatically don`t give a poo about our own kind.

  73. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    February 27, 2010 at 9:51 pm
    You can show compassion to whatever you choose. The point is so many people get so passionate over something so inconsequential to the grand scheme of things.

    How much taxpayer money is being spent on this and other things like it? Let`s draw a line somewhere but lets be equitable. If society says it`s wrong to pierce a cat but ok to pierce a child it kind of makes you wonder.
    Let`s punish a kid for bringing a 2" representation of a gun (a policeman`s gun no less). Let`s suspend 5 year olds for kissing a classmate on valentines day.

    Priorities. Reason. Common sense.

    How many homeless, abused, feral, etc. cats have you adopted? How much have you donated to humane societies? Do tell...

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    IssaTheFiend Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 10:30 pm
    It doesn`t really seem that cruel to me I mean its okay to tattoo your dog but holy poo pierce a kitten and you are going to jail.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:02 pm
    So she is charged with animal cruelty? I agree with that. They didn`t really say what the punishment is though. There`d be something to debate.

    I think this is pretty one sided, I can`t imagine many people would say that she shouldn`t have been charged with animal cruelty, seeing as how they have a vet state that the mods were `harmful to the animal` and all...

    What disturbs me more is a comment here:

    It`s okay to tattoo and body mod your kid

    ... so I can raise a kid to the age of 5, then cut a swastika into his forehead a-la-inglorious-basterds then put him up for adoption, and still be within my rights?

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    Subushie Male 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:03 pm
    everyone that is for the piercing of this cat is retarded and never bothered to read the entire article. The cat was in serious pain from the neck piercing and the cost to rehabilitate the cat is near 1,000 bucks. This wasn`t kitty modification, it was f/ucking animal cruelty.
  77. Profile photo of MsMalicious
    MsMalicious Female 18-29
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    February 27, 2010 at 11:39 pm
    Its okay to tattoo and body mod your child? That has to be the stupidest effing thing I have ever read. Ear piercing is fine. It is socially acceptable. But to tattoo a child? Skin stretches as they grow and would destroy the tattoo. On top of that, IT IS A GOD DAMN CHILD. Do you think they possess the right frame of effing mind to sit through that time of pain? WTF? Anyone who is supporting this sh*t should be shot. Ill be the one to put the gun to your effing head.

    It isnt right to do ANYTHING TO ANY LIVING CREATURES BODY WITHOUT ITS CONSENT!!! And if it doesn`t consent, THEN DONT DO IT. There`s something seriously effing wrong with your heads you know that? You people are the reason why this world is so effed up.

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    snailslime Female 18-29
    90 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 12:00 am
    who brought dobermans into this?..when you get things done at the vet there is usually painkiller involved,and an understandable/medical reason for it unlike piercing your cat for the great old fun of it. And piercing you babies ears is not the same, we all know it hurts for like a half hour at most and is removable at any time..you can destroy an animals hearing or just rip thier ear permantley, and its not going to just fix itself in a couple days
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    Haushinka Female 18-29
    83 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 12:38 am
    I feel like slapping the f*** out of this woman - who the hell wouldn`t think this was animal cruelty? What, you think the kittens said "well that looks cool, I want a 14 gauge needle pierced through my neck" - going against anyone`s will, whether it be human or animal, is wrong in every way. This dumbass deserves a hell of a lot of jail time.
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    ohthedrama Male 30-39
    162 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 3:12 am
    Yeah to compare this with docking dobermans`s is stupid. Docking a doberman is cosmetic surgery done professionally by a vet with NO harm to the dog whatsoever. As vets said about this cat, it almost died and has permanent hearing damage.
  81. Profile photo of Dainty
    Dainty Female 18-29
    355 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 3:21 am
    "Or, you know, they`ve had the cat for awhile and suddenly they have a child. Typically people aren`t going to want to get rid of a pet they`ve raised and loved for years, but they also don`t want the jealous cat to claw the hell out of their newborn baby, so they get them declawed.

    Not everyone has stupid reasons behind what they do. "

    That`s unethical, inhumane, cruel, emotionally and physically scarring, and I`m pretty sure it`s illegal in some areas. There is NO good reason for someone to rip out a cats nails. Lets hack off your fingers at the joints and see how great you`re going to be?

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    Ceara Female 18-29
    6 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 3:27 am
    poor kitten~why not scratch her or bite the scratchcat???
  83. Profile photo of Dainty
    Dainty Female 18-29
    355 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 3:29 am
    "Does the law really protect animals more than BABIES?"

    No, it doesn`t, and you`re a drating idiot if you think so. And I see nothing special about human babies. The less of them the better.

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    Dainty Female 18-29
    355 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 3:34 am
    Also, this is one of the very few good things PETA has been involved in. Props for them.
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    Dainty Female 18-29
    355 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 3:47 am
    And, tail docking of dogs in the UK is banned, but only allowed for "health and safety" (LAWLS) reasons (i.e. working dogs). And if it`s done incorrectly, it can cause severe problems to the dogs. Spinal problems, not being able to sit properly, infections, death, etc.
    Again: cruel, inhumane, unethical, humans need to stop being idiots and breeding more animals into this world, including their own specie, yadda yadda yadda...
  86. Profile photo of Mxyzptlk
    Mxyzptlk Male 30-39
    1 post
    February 28, 2010 at 5:15 am
    I found this story horrible.
    I love cats, I just can`t eat a whole one.
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    puppies04 Male 18-29
    686 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 5:22 am
    Oh right because its a kitten we get all uptight but if it was a cow with a thick plastic tag through it`s ear or had been branded with a hot iron nobody would give a crap, get off your high horses and stop being so bloody hypocritical
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
    2514 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 6:35 am
    How is this any worse than tail docking, ear clipping, neutering, or any other body modifications unwillingly imposed upon animals?
  89. Profile photo of a1butcher
    a1butcher Male 40-49
    4809 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 6:43 am
    "Oh right because its a kitten we get all uptight "but if it was a cow with a thick plastic tag through it`s ear or had been branded with a hot iron nobody would give a crap, get off your high horses and stop being so bloody hypocritical"

    We don`t eat kittens... well most of you don`t.

  90. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
    1043 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 7:51 am
    "Docking a doberman is cosmetic surgery done professionally "

    Plenty of people can`t afford a vet and do it themselves. Docking, cropping, dobies, pit bulls.... Look it up. Just like plenty of people do their own piercing and body mods.

    If I take fluffy to the vet and insist that it be pierced, is that still cruel?

    How come I can do that with a child and nobody cares?

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10441 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 8:51 am
    So, what should the punishment be for piercing several cats without the intention to cause harm, but causing harm inadvertently, as was said by the vet?
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    BunnyNaku Female 18-29
    5224 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 8:57 am
    i agree with rob. just like those ear tags on cows. now the kitty just has better earings...ish lol
  93. Profile photo of Vindictive
    Vindictive Female 18-29
    1077 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 9:35 am
    i agree with everyone saying people are uptight because it`s a cat. also, i bet these SAME people eat meat, wear leather, live in houses insulated by products tested on animals, take medication tested on animals, and to top it off, wear shoes or other forms of clothing made by a parentless asian child.
  94. Profile photo of nettech98
    nettech98 Male 50-59
    1043 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 11:53 am
    "So, what should the punishment be for piercing several cats without the intention to cause harm, but causing harm inadvertently, as was said by the vet?"

    Punishment? The vet should lose his license for being a greedy bastard thinking he or one of his buds could charge $1000 to `rehabilitate` a kitten.

    I`ll take the rings out for free. I won`t charge a thing to feed fluffy while nature heals the holes.

  95. Profile photo of simim23
    simim23 Female 18-29
    1427 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 12:04 pm
    ""Does the law really protect animals more than BABIES?"

    No, it doesn`t, and you`re a drating idiot if you think so. And I see nothing special about human babies. The less of them the better. "

    Oh, so it`s completely okay to take your baby in and get their ears pierced against their will(because babies, like kittens, cannot vocalize their consent/lack thereof)?

    But do it to kittens, and you`re like OH NOEZ!!

    Also, if there should be less babies, there should be less kittens. For every person I see, I`ve seen 3 stray cats running loose.

  96. Profile photo of Dainty
    Dainty Female 18-29
    355 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 1:24 pm
    "Oh, so it`s completely okay to take your baby in and get their ears pierced against their will(because babies, like kittens, cannot vocalize their consent/lack thereof)?

    But do it to kittens, and you`re like OH NOEZ!!"

    I never said it was OK to pierce human babies ears. I personally think it`s weird. There comes in the whole consent issue again.

    "Also, if there should be less babies, there should be less kittens. For every person I see, I`ve seen 3 stray cats running loose."

    Yeah, I agree. People need to stop breeding, since there is millions of homeless animals killed every year. And those who breed are just adding to the problem.

  97. Profile photo of Dainty
    Dainty Female 18-29
    355 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 1:30 pm
    "i agree with everyone saying people are uptight because it`s a cat. also, i bet these SAME people eat meat, wear leather, live in houses insulated by products tested on animals, take medication tested on animals, and to top it off, wear shoes or other forms of clothing made by a parentless asian child."

    Hear, hear! It makes me laugh when I see people crying over a dog who was `kidnapped` and had his ears cut off with hedge shearers, or in this `gothic kitten` case. It`s hypocritical, and not even remotely as horrible as what happens to millions of animals on a daily basis so you can buy a hamburger for $1 at McDonalds.

    Also, in ALLLLLL the posts about humans being abused/harmed/killed, you never see anyone referring to what horrible things non-human animals go through each day. But when IAB gets a post about the harm done to cats/dogs/dolphins/horses/etc, you see a bunch of people complaining on how HUMANS have it just oh-so bad, and that how DARE you be upset about a pi

  98. Profile photo of Dainty
    Dainty Female 18-29
    355 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 1:32 pm
    (c)
    pierced kitten when there are STARVING CHILDREN in Africa! (Which I`m pretty sure most, if not all, of the people who complain about that have never donated a cent to the starving children of Africa, much less the starving children elsewhere in the world. )


    Double standards, hypocrisy, yadda yadda yadda.

  99. Profile photo of Dainty
    Dainty Female 18-29
    355 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 1:41 pm
    "How many homeless, abused, feral, etc. cats have you adopted? How much have you donated to humane societies? Do tell..."

    I donate to places that do TNR, I used to volunteer at the local animal shelter (not recently, though, since I`m finishing school next month. Have to get all my stuff in order because I can do that again) And I`ve also donated to other organizations that support various animal welfare/rights. (And most DEFINITELY not WWF. If the animal isn`t a tiger, wolf, or panda, they don`t give a flying lemur about them. My money will go to places that actually use it in the way they portray) (Also, just because I`m sure this will come up, I`ve never donated to PETA. Just because I`m vegan, doesn`t mean you can link me to them. They are an animal welfare group who do things for attention , and very little of what they are involved in I support. There ARE tons and tons of other AR organizations out there.) And my cat who passed away in 2008

  100. Profile photo of Dainty
    Dainty Female 18-29
    355 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 1:47 pm
    at 20 years old was adopted from an animal shelter. He was extremely sick when he was there, and my mom and dad saved him from being killed. We had him since 1994.
    My other cat was the kitten of a stray cat in Chicago that my uncle rescued. We didn`t know she was pregnant until she started getting extremely fat, extremely fast. He`ll be turning 11 in July.
    And just for the heck of it, my dog was also adopted in 2004 from the same animal shelter my original cat was adopted from. My rabbits were also adopted from a shelter in 2008 as bunnies. My original degu was adopted from a lady who was not capable of taking care of him anymore. Unfortunately, we got him a friend who was supposed to be male. She was not male, she was a girl, and there were many baby degus. They`re freaking adorable, and I love them to death, but if they never came into this world, I would be perfectly ok with that. At least I know I have a good 8-15 years of having a companion animal. (Bunnies and degus)
  101. Profile photo of obeydarklord
    obeydarklord Male 18-29
    1360 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 5:24 pm
    omg dainty give it a rest. just post us a link to your blogspot or something
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    obeydarklord Male 18-29
    1360 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 5:38 pm
    omg dainty give it a rest. just post us a link to your blogspot or something
  103. Profile photo of Genocyde
    Genocyde Male 30-39
    712 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 6:05 pm
    Okay, so let me see if I`m crystal clear on this issue. Piercing animals is wrong but microchipping them is not?

    I mean if we`re going on the consent aspect, then animals can`t give consent to what we might think is a "good" idea. If we go on the pain aspect, then maybe we should remember that that hypo that vets use is only "temporary" pain.

    I wouldn`t want to pierce my cats but hey, if we allow the chipping, then let`s ease up on the piercing. If not, then let`s get rid of the chipping too. We don`t need the double standard, one`s enough, thanks.

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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
    1284 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 7:40 pm
    I`ll give Holly the benefit of the doubt since the media is about as accurate as a politician.
    But, mutilation is never a good thing, be it human or animal. I`m also quite sure you can`t get a consent from an animal to provide bodily harm.

    omg dainty give it a rest. just post us a link to your blogspot or something
    She has been an IAB regular for a while now and I`ve seen you on this site...once. Today.
    You hold no grounds for insulting anybody here.

  105. Profile photo of MadP
    MadP Female 18-29
    332 posts
    February 28, 2010 at 10:46 pm
    I`m sure it`s been said, but I`m lazy... But what about docking dog`s tails and clipping their ears? I don`t like any of that, but they get over it. The whole off balance and hard of hearing thing seems like bs. She definitely shouldn`t be doing that to kittens, but it`s not THAT big a deal to throw the book at her.
  106. Profile photo of AndelleRae
    AndelleRae Female 18-29
    837 posts
    March 1, 2010 at 4:48 am
    "That`s unethical, inhumane, cruel, emotionally and physically scarring, and I`m pretty sure it`s illegal in some areas. There is NO good reason for someone to rip out a cats nails. Lets hack off your fingers at the joints and see how great you`re going to be?"

    Dude, I had a cat that used to hang out around my house all the time that had no front claws and one of his front paws was completely useless (he had gotten hit by a car, poor guy.) and he could still hunt like a regular cat. I can`t tell you the number of times I saw him proudly trotting across the yard with a dead chipmunk or playing with an almost dead mouse. This was an outdoor cat.

    If I ever have my own cat, no I will not declaw it, but I can certainly see the reasoning behind some peoples` decision to do so.

  107. Profile photo of pmarren
    pmarren Male 40-49
    4575 posts
    March 1, 2010 at 6:42 am
    I think I found my new career. Not sure how many of those goddam cats would survive the Pmarren Kitteh Piercing Clinic, but I`m sure I`d look forward to going to work everyday.

    Cats = Suck

  108. Profile photo of Oystah
    Oystah Female 40-49
    4032 posts
    March 1, 2010 at 7:03 am
    This lady is 35 years, pierces kittes and sells them as goth pets? Wow, what an effing loser.
  109. Profile photo of atm
    atm Female 13-17
    127 posts
    March 1, 2010 at 10:59 pm
    okay what the- who would do that? crazy lady.
  110. Profile photo of CmdrBittles
    CmdrBittles Female 18-29
    1172 posts
    March 2, 2010 at 8:19 pm
    I personally think it`s cruel, but I also think having a dogs ears or tail docked for anything other than medical reasons is also cruel. I like my animals not mutilated thanks. The difference between us and them is that they don`t make the choice.
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    TIMESWORDSMN Male 13-17
    304 posts
    March 7, 2010 at 2:44 pm
    Not cruel, Just stupid.

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