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The fact that this group had a religious affiliation is a red herring. If this had been some other non-profit they would probably be slapped on the hand and asked to return the children or go through the proper channels. The is a reason the Dominican Republican has had strained relations with Haiti for so long and Haitians are climbing into bathtubs to set sail for the States. Truth be told I don`t think anyone is innocent here, these people saw an opportunity to circumvent he corrupt government during a crisis and took it; but the government does have a point that child trafficking is a real concern. Who really knows, bu they made their choice and now they have to deal wih the repercussions.
The righteous anger BS is laughable, especially from Haiti.
I do find it hard to believe, though, that a bunch of church ladies from Idaho went down to Haiti to kidnap a bunch of kids so they could sell them for profit. I find it easier to believe that they got crosswise with the Haitian government because they tried to sneak these kids out without paying the $20,000 per child "administrative fee" the government is demanding from foreigners to adopt orphans.
The whole point of Christians doing this work is that we aren`t doing it for us, we are doing God`s work with our hands.
No, I`m saying that helping others in need is a natural part of the human psyche, and has nothing to do with religion. It`s when you start thinking you`re someone special because you do it that you need your head checked.
So, let them go with a warning and tell Haiti that until they have an effective remedy for this issue, that they have to look at each case individually.
While I`m not saying that they need... or can monitor every helper... a near lawless land in disaster is perfect for child traffickers, so it`s wise to be cautious.
I think we don`t know what`s going on exactly. The Haitians likely don`t either. So, in my opinion, a third party, the UN perhaps, should intervene and try to sort out the case.
Well said, These kids were not being sold or `trafficked` Haiti was in horrible shape before the earthquake, Now it`s chaos. Who wouldn`t want to rescue orphans from that ?
Lion - are you trying to convince me, and others, that helping others in need is wrong?
The type of Christians who send missionaries out, because they are self-righteous and convinced they are better than everyone else, seem to think anything they do is automatically right. They obviously haven`t learned a thing in almost 200 years.
1) These missionaries are from the US, but they are NOT the government. The money is coming from the goodness of our hearts.
2) I can see why they were arrested - they didn`t have documentation of the kids. So obviously the suspicion of child trafficking is there. - However, if their stories hold up, which I`m sure they will, there is no reason to jail them.
The children were handed over by some parents because the parents wanted the BEST for them. I hope I would do the same in the situation. The parents showed true sacrificial love and gave up their own rights.
Rules are there for a reason, in this case I think there should be exceptions. Hopefully the judge will see the intention instead of the rules.
I hope and pray for the best of these children, that they won`t be left hungry or homeless.
Did you read it? The kids` parents had either both died, or one had died and the other had abandoned them.[/quote]
Did you read it? It says 21 of the kids` parents just handed them over to the missionaries.
Did you read it? The kids` parents had either both died, or one had died and the other had abandoned them.
i 2nd that statement.
Thats the problem right there - what if one of the parents is incapacitated in a hospital, who then gets better and begins to search for his or her child - the last remaining part of a shattered family? I don`t think it will be a satisfactory answer to say "we thought you were a cold-hearted bastard who left you child, so we gave your child away. Little did we know you love your child, and upon recovering from your devastating injuries would seek to find the one thing remaining of your shattered life, the only thing left from the bond between you and your now deceased spouse. Whoopsie! Our bad!"
No sympathy for child snatchers, which is exactly what they are until the Haitian government tells them the children can leave the country.
Thats FALSE. American courts can try foreign causes of action based on foreign law so long as the court has jurisdiction over the parties. Thus if all parties are in the U.S., and the crime happened in a foreign country, the U.S. court would just apply the foreign law.
Issues of extradition, etc., are besides that point.
Um, they are being charged in Haiti, so clearly you, um, yeah.
Anyways, its generally a good idea to ensure you have proper documentation whenever possible when dealing with custody of children. There are a multitude of reasons - kidnapping children for profit, or for the sex trade, etc.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO ENSURE THE REAL PARENTS HAVE ACTUALLY SURRENDERED ALL RIGHTS. What happens when these people take the child to the US, he`s raised by a nice family there, but turns out his biological parents never legally terminated parentage, and want the kid back?? Guess what? KID GOES BACK.
The funny thing about laws is, often it doesn`t matter how noble your intentions. "I stole to feed my kids." Noble, yes, but illegal nonetheless.
You give these missionaries too much credit. They knew exactly what they were doing.