Pot Shrinks Tumors; Government Knew Since 1974

Submitted by: fiending 7 years ago
http://www.alternet.org/story/9257/

Who knew you could grow your cancer cure? Isn"t it about time we make it legal? Or is that still a bad idea? Thoughts?
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Female 3,598
jfishx
Female, 18-29, Western US
18 Posts Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:25:52 PM
Does anyone find it interesting that the pharmaceutical companies go out of their way to find a way to get the results of THC without the high, but it`s considered perfectly ok for chemo to hurt like a b*tch and have all sorts of nasty side effects? Sounds screwed up to me.

sounds screwed up to me too. why does the government not want us to feel good?

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Male 1,647
Thanks for the links fiending ! I appreciate it!

There`s even a couple reliable sources in there.

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Male 336
u crazy potheads and your crazy conspiracy`s, go smoke another joint and talk about cars that run on water
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Male 75
oh come one!
the government is just bein SPITEFUL at this point!
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Female 1,380
yes amaru....but, if it were decrim`d instead of being legalized, the jails would not lose money. They would be less croweded and less of our tax dollars would be wasted on locking up a stoner...and mrijuana = probable cause or suspicion for anyone white or not white. IMO i don`t think they will fully ever legalize it (although I would love it as well) except for medical reasons because i think the government knows they wouldn`t be able to regulate it very well...if they were to decriminalize it, then we wouldn`t have people going to prison over a little bit of marijuana, they would get a fine and be sent on their way. It would bring in tax dollars instead of wasting them on letting stoners rot in prison which is retarted.
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Male 76
and its not weed, its hemp oil. do u no how hard that poo it to make?

hemp oil cures cancer, its a miracle drug. and nixon made a bunch of scientists research weed be4 he enacted some drug policy, which, i forget now in the face of so many. the scientists confirmed that it posed no harm, even if taken in in human amounts. he dimissed it as the work of "dirty jews" and proceeded to drat up anyway.

and ronald reagen was the white devil. fudgec him

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Male 76
juggalette, ur toally missing the fact that pharmacy companies would lose money, (ALOT OF dratIGN MONEY) our jails would lose money, (since 1985`s say no policy, the us has tripled its amount of prisons.) police would literally have little reason to stop minorities, (marijuana = probable cause or suspicion for anyone not white) and all the commercials you see in tv, or in ads? totally ignored by stoners for the most part. why? marijuana can help prove psychology most psychology theories, and totally destory them all as well. the cotton and paper companies is the reason hemp is illegal? thats liek the tip of the ice berg.
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Male 12
...potential anticancer agents:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14570037?dopt=Abstract

Pot shows promise as cancer cure:
http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/200...

Cancer research done with cannabis, a whole list:
http://safeaccess.ca/research/cancer.htm

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Male 12
For anyone who argues that weed does not cure cancer:

Germany: Study Shows Marijuana May Fight Cancer:
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v08/n076/...

Cannabidiol as a novel inhibitor of Id-1 gene expression in aggressive breast cancer cells:
http://mct.aacrjournals.org/content/6/11...

Synthetic cannabinoid receptor agonists inhibit tumor growth and metastasis of breast cancer:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19887554?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=8

"THC actually activates naturally produced receptors to fight off lung cancer":
http://www.nowpublic.com/thc_marijuana_h...

US National Library of Medicine,

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Male 833
sure it wont cure cancer, or other terrible diseases, but man itll make you feel better. `sides it has many more uses than just medicinal treatments.
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Female 1,380
"Legalize it! I love how people are arguing about regulations and prices and stuff, when if legal, you could just grow your own for personal use, and not worry about the market. The government just wants to be able to impose their "morals" on the public as well as keep a product out of the market which would put a sizable dent in the bottom line for paper and cotton industries, which are inferior to hemp."

If it were legal, you wouldn`t be able to grow your own....the government would try to regulate that.

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Male 15,832
Why did alcohol prohibition require a constitutional amendment, but marijuana prohibition was done by simple majority votes in congress? The fact is, the federal government has no legitimate constitutional authority for marijuana prohibition.
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Male 228
"Take ordinary cigarettes, for example. Those mean nasty killers also just happen to lower your blood pressure, reduce your chance of Alzheimers , endometrial cancer, Parkinson`s disease, ulcerative colitis, and hypertension."

Pot doesn`t slowly kill you, nor does it dramatically shorten your life expectancy.

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Female 83
Does anyone find it interesting that the pharmaceutical companies go out of their way to find a way to get the results of THC without the high, but it`s considered perfectly ok for chemo to hurt like a b*tch and have all sorts of nasty side effects? Sounds screwed up to me.
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Male 175
@razlem we don`t need another corporation extracting a chemical from certain plants to patent it and get rich off people with cancer. Chinese medicine has been treating tumors for thousands of years. I even seen pancreatic cancer being treated effectively in the Chengdu Chinese medicine hospital.

According to TCM marijuana is a strong sedative and it can slow down the rate of cancer. However, it is never used for this purpose because it`s in the long run it is debilitating.

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Male 533
Lionhart is right. What they need to do is figure out what chemical stops the tumors, extract it, and make a cure.

Smoking pot will not cure your cancer.

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Female 1,682
This is very interesting o.o What a good read.
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Male 2,056
OH SNAP FLAME WAR IN PROGGRESS

lol just kidding guys

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Female 1,148
@madest

I couldn`t have said it better myself.

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Male 8,302
Its hardly surprising; Chinese and Amerindians used it as a MEDICINAL herb for thousands of years. Fact is, anything has its good and bad sides.

Take ordinary cigarettes, for example. Those mean nasty killers also just happen to lower your blood pressure, reduce your chance of Alzheimers , endometrial cancer, Parkinson`s disease, ulcerative colitis, and hypertension. (Source: Official Govt Quit Smoking Website)

But you won`t see that info splashed around the place either, that would make ciggies look possibly ok.

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Female 3,562
Well said, madest. There are republicans who are good, rational people, but they make the mistake of associating themselves with an entire culture of irrational bigotry and paranoia.
Anyway, I do have some hope for legalizing it, as it`s becoming more and more legal in various states these days. New Jersey, Massachusetts, and California all have lenient laws.
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Female 4
well, maybe the hospitals could just use extracted thc that`s grown outside of the country, and use it on cancer patients. The high could be explained away as a side effect. damnit, if my grandmother had heard about this, she`d have been pissed. she wouldn`t have had to suffer through all of that chemo if this had already been in the works.
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Female 1,380
"Well what about this:

If I had a valid form of a disability, I could go to the clinic a few streets away from my house, be consulted, then if I checked out, I could go next door with my prescription and talk to the receptionist, show them my prescription, then be led to the next room where I can choose my medicine."

legalizing for medicinal reasons is different than legalizing for recreational reasons. I just highly doubt they`ll ever legalize it....they may decrim it someday though...decrim would make a lot of money for the gov`t through fines and taxes instead of throwing them in jail where tax dollars are wasted...DECRIM MAKES CENTS :) :)

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Male 7,378
This is the Republican Party. They don`t want you smoking weed. They also don`t want you to play online poker or make end of life decisions. They`re against equal rights, they appreciate torture, hate abortions and are for the death penalty. They want to spy on you, limit your rights, strip search your children and bomb the crap out of any country who`s people are brown. They lie about tax payer funded scientific research. Cover-up, scheme and whitewash. If anyone thinks the republican party represents them, they`re living in a fantasy world.
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Male 9,306
"I HIGHLY doubt marijuana will ever become legal. It would be wayyyy too hard for the government to regulate it. It would be amazing, but it probally won`t ever happen. We have a better chance of getting it decrim`d. DECRIM MAKES CENTS!"

Well what about this:

If I had a valid form of a disability, I could go to the clinic a few streets away from my house, be consulted, then if I checked out, I could go next door with my prescription and talk to the receptionist, show them my prescription, then be led to the next room where I can choose my medicine.

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Female 72
Legalize it! I love how people are arguing about regulations and prices and stuff, when if legal, you could just grow your own for personal use, and not worry about the market. The government just wants to be able to impose their "morals" on the public as well as keep a product out of the market which would put a sizable dent in the bottom line for paper and cotton industries, which are inferior to hemp.
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Male 5,190
Illegal or not. Ima smoke it.

I may not be as smart as a lot of you on here but I smoke it a lot. I pay bills go to school all that crap. Pot is no different then a lot of things. Some people like it some don`t. Your choice. Blah blah blah why you still reading blah blah lol.

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Male 2,229
now it`s time to question which is more profitable to whom as where marijuana sits. In the State, in particular, the police forces make a lot of dough off this `war on drugs`, as does the phama industrial complex. Corporations make billions on suppressing this stuff, where they`d only make millions on legalizing it. And don`t expect the US gov`t to change it`s stance when there`s a 300 to 1 lobbyist to elected representative.
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Male 5,190
The only woman Ill never leave. Mary J.
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Male 1,347
But you could argue quality and consistency issues would overcome any price issues. Also, it would be far cheaper to produce if legal, as black market prices are elevated. Though, I agree that initially there would be fewer people buying from the government, but that`s just paranoia. =P
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Male 14,330
Well the answer is simple then just enact a McGovernment which consists of me controling the entire world :-)
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Female 1,380
"It`s what the government does with tobacco."

Do you really think that all the dealers and whatnot would stop selling it and people would stop buying from them? They would tax the poo out of it and it would probally still be cheaper to buy from a dealer unless the government makes it a lot cheaper so that people wouldn`t want to buy it from dealers.

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Male 7,585
well i havent developed any tumors yet
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Male 302
`It would be wayyyy too hard for the government to regulate it.`

It`s what the government does with tobacco.

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Male 10,440
[quote] @LazyMe484

There`d be nothing to post with your attitude. [/quote]

I suppose your right, everything seems to scream "your government sucks!".

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Female 1,380
I HIGHLY doubt marijuana will ever become legal. It would be wayyyy too hard for the government to regulate it. It would be amazing, but it probally won`t ever happen. We have a better chance of getting it decrim`d. DECRIM MAKES CENTS!
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Female 778
weed should have been legal a long ass time ago. my medication has me too messed up to form many coherent thoughts, i`m not even going to attempt explain my point. i`ll just look stupid! i have a cast though. ^_^/-_-
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Male 2,592
this article is 10 years old. how can we trust the primitive scientific methods of that time period?
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Male 205
If you read Jack Herers book and believe only a 10th of it, you`ll see what a gouvernment driven/aided conspiracy is capable of.
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Male 41
I think it is hilarious and sad all at the same time that we can trust drug dealers the supposed scum of the earth over the government and big corporations. So who is the real scum here? who really hurts people?
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Male 772
They should do in America what they have done in the Netherlands: have certain places where you can buy and smoke small quantities of weed. These places have to have licences to sell it, there is a maximum amount that any one person can buy/have on them, and you have to stay at the place or go home to smoke it, you can`t just walk around on the street with it.

All they have to do is make those kinds of places and just increase the penalties for crimes/infractions committed while under the influence of weed. Control > banning, seeing as the banning doesn`t seem to be working.

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Female 7,838
You know Zero- I know plenty of people who smoke weed and work, myself included. Hiring an alcoholic would not be a good idea- but hiring someone who drinks happens all the time. I just don`t spend my life wasted, same as I don`t spend my life drunk.
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Male 5,194
Legalize it.
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Male 617
this isnt news. "news" implies that it`s "new". medicinal marijuana, HELLO.
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Female 3,562
You know this article was written TEN YEARS AGO?
Also, studies have found that pot prevents lung cancer, according to the washington post. Unfortunately I lost the link to that article.
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Male 25,416
Well may the people keep argueing this over and over!
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Male 9,306
"So why is the government hiding this?"

Well let`s put it in perspective. Cancer is usually treated with chemotherapy and this is very expensive. The results are not very pretty either, loss of hair, twisted internal organs (yes it`s true, a close friend of my partner`s recently passed away and this is what happened to her), and other side effects usually end up horribly damaging the body, yet people keep going thinking it is the only thing that can cure them.

Now we`re starting to find a very cheap, easily reproduced treatment that anyone can grow with a pot of dirt and water. Why would anyone not want that?

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Female 1,677
"Still" a bad idea? It was never a bad idea. The government is just a bunch of useless dratbags.
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Female 169
Legalize it.
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Female 1,566
@p0l4r21: haha yep, I gotcha and that. I love a good non-flame war debate as well. Nice talkin` to ya. (:
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Male 1,505
It will never cease to amaze me that my government has the audacity to believe they can regulate the growth of a plant and the arrogance to believe its people will comply.
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Male 504
Ok so as long you get I was not referring to current THC pills then we are good. Good debate I enjoyed it wasn`t a flame war which is so hard to come by a smart individual anymore on the internet.
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Female 1,566
"Synthetic THC is not the same as the real stuff."

Yeah, that`s the point... THC pills like Marinol use synthetic THC. If they used delta9 there wouldn`t be a problem, but they`re not.

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Male 504
@leesah

OK you just went off base here I was not referring to synthetics. Synthetic THC is not the same as the real stuff. If they were to concentrate the THC from the bud itself it would be the exact same amount of THC but a drop would be the equivalent to say a gram of bud (just as a reference). So now that it is equal you would be ingesting more with virtually no waste.

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Female 1,566
"Chicago you pay more because it is harder to get."

If legalized, it will be much easier to get, lowering costs. & when legal, we wont have to grow in sheds and basements, which will help the quality. The ease of obtaining will balance out the price for quality. Plus, more people will grow, so there will be price competition. I think, realistically, the prices nationwide for good quality (not super dank but not ditchweed) will even out and about $40 an 8th.

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Male 15,510
Shut up everybody and just pass it around. Puff puff
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Male 22
Marijuana is safer being illegal and out of the governments hands but I do beleave that legalizing it has its benefits but just remember we can only build so meany fast food restaurants for pot heads to work at then they will have to relay on the government for cash flow and thats called a welfare state. Making it legal will not change company`s policies ( Word for thought ) Job`s don`t hire pot heads....
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Female 1,566
"This not over how much THC is in a pill"

Of course it is. That has everything to do with it, as the THC is Marinol is synthetic. You could be taking two Marinols and only getting the amount of THC equal to a gram of smoked cannabis. Marinol is also FAR more expensive than weed and is absorbed incredibly unevenly. The synthetic is 11-hydroxy-THC, which is more psychoactive than delta9. Two pills one day may be fine but the next day you may need five, because of the spastic absorption rate.

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Male 22
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php Marijuana is safer being illegal and out of the governments hands but I do beleave that legalizing it has its benefits but just remember we can only build so meany fast food restaurants before pot heads to work at then they will have to relay on the government for cash flow and thats called a welfare state. Making it legal will not change company`s policies ( Word for thought ) Job`s don`t hire pot heads....
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Male 132
Its about time we free the weed, alcohol is 10 times more harmfull in every conceivalbe way.
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Male 504
@leesah

In Chicago you pay more because it is harder to get. I see where it possible to be cheaper in your area. It is not going to be substantial by any means in California it ranges anywhere from 30-60 depending on the quality. That is with a pooty tax system which California is going to start a better tax system for controlling marijuana.

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Female 1,566
@p0l4r21: It`s actually more likely to go down even with taxes. It`s $60 an 8th in Chicago but in Hawaii, where it`s only medically legal, I can get $40 8th of wayyy better bud. Although that isn`t taking tax into consideration, but I can`t realistically believe there will be a tax high enough that it would be twenty dollars.
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Male 504
@leesah

This not over how much THC is in a pill this about which is the best way to ingest it and since you agreed there is nothing more to be said about this.

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Male 473
This article doesn`t seem legitimate. First question, if the DEA destroyed the results of the first test of this back in 1974, why does it keep referencing those test results, you know the ones that were destroyed?
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Male 504
@leesah again

The price would stay the same which will be justified through taxes. Why make something people are willing to pay top dollar for cheaper?

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Female 1,566
@p0l4r21: 99.9% of the amount of THC they put in the pills. Which is far less than the amount you can get from smoking it.
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Male 504
@leesah

Did you read the article they administered the drug orally. The best way to administer THC is orally because you receive 99.9% of the THC. The best one can get from smoking is vaporizing it and only 92% is ingested. Your source is misinformed.

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Female 1,578
So why is the government hiding this?
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Female 1,566
"leaving it safer and cool to smoke...."

If it`s legalized, the price will come down and the quality will go up. The economy would also benefit, not only from the taxes, but it would allow the growing and selling of hemp, which is a HUGE cash crop (& is illegal although it contains no THC and can`t be smoked to get high). & if you`re concerned about age limits, well, you have to be 21 to drink and we still find our way around that just fine.

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Male 504
Advil does not harm your body that bad it is acetaminophen; according to my chemistry teacher, having a Pharmd, is one of the most dangerous chemicals for your body as it only take 5g to overdose.
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Male 22
This is not News they allow people with cancer to smoke marijuana. Only if the fast acting tumor like Obama can be stop with THC then it`s better left out of the government hands, leaving it safer and cool to smoke....
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Female 1,566
"There already is a TCH pill - tetrahydrocannibinol or something - they`ll give it to ya if you get cancer."

The THC pill is not nearly as effective as smoking cannabis. Patients personal testimonies as well as studies have proved that the pill has to be taken much more frequently while still not providing full relief. It`s a step backwards, in my opinion.

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Male 14,330
@LazyMe484

There`d be nothing to post with your attitude.

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Female 394
It`s a sad world we live in when the government squashes something so potentially helpful to the health of so many. It may or may not be a cure all but marijuana has been proven to help or cure cancer not once but twice, and twice now the government hides it.
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Male 10,440
Please stop posting articles that make me hate America.
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Female 4,039
Gak - THC pill - fix.
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Female 4,039
There already is a TCH pill - tetrahydrocannibinol or something - they`ll give it to ya if you get cancer. I am all for legalizing pot, but I don`t see the need for these types of studies and experiments. Been there, done that - pot does not cure cancer and giving mice brain cancer, then extending their life for 4 extra days seems like a waste of time. If pot cured cancer, we`d know by now.
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Male 4,014
legalize it. I can drink myself to death right now in 10 minutes. It is a scientific fact that you cannot OD smoking pot. Lung damage aside (smokers destroy their lungs legally every day), pot is far less harmful than Alcohol.

Nobody gets super high and then decides to beat their wife the way alcohol riles up the blood.

Pot makes nobody angry and violent.

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Female 1,566
The fact that it`s illegal is absolutely ridiculous. Advil does worse to your body!
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Male 12
Link: Pot Shrinks Tumors; Government Knew Since 1974 [Rate Link] - Who knew you could grow your cancer cure? Isn`t it about time we make it legal? Or is that still a bad idea? Thoughts?
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