NH Rep. Nancy Elliott Discovers Homosexuality [Vid

Submitted by: madest 7 years ago in

"Take a man"s penis put it in another man"s rectum and wriggle it in excrement." Yes, she said that...
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Female 381
"Ah, but the heterosexual version, ie "taking the penis and putting it in the vagina and wriggling it around in blood and urine" (which is as incorrect as the excrement thing she said) is instead called "the one flesh union between man and woman"?"

There isn`t any urine in a vagina, or at least there shouldn`t be. It comes out in a different place, slightly above the vag. ((I agree with what you`re saying though.))

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Male 92
@SmilianSam

second and as a man, it has so much more meaning lol

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Female 3,598
i`d rather have a dick in my a$$ than a stick up there.
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Male 84
that guy next to her is blatantly thinking "shut up bitch i love me some anal, infact i`ve been checking out your ass all day"
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Male 316
I think she needs one up there.
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Male 1,557
Ah, but the heterosexual version, ie "taking the penis and putting it in the vagina and wriggling it around in blood and urine" (which is as incorrect as the excrement thing she said) is instead called "the one flesh union between man and woman" ?

But frankly what people do in their private lives is their own business, don`t judge it based on YOUR preferences. Plus homosexuality doesn`t automatically mean anal sex.

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Male 143
Jesus christ is this ignorant person sheltered...living what..60 years with out knowing what anal is...dumb ass lived through the 60`s and 70`s...lotta free love...
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Female 17
gotta love my home state. thank goodness not everyone in NH is as ignorant as Nancy Elliot. Yay gay marriage equality !
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Female 1,112
Alright then. We`re good here. Good job crew.
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Male 5,620
yeah it is.. but Kentucky has a law specifically for sodomy. lol
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Female 1,112
well cool. But that last bit about public blah blah is true of any sexual act.
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Male 5,620
bumble, if sodomy is committed in public, or is witness-able, it is a crime under I think 4th degree sodomy.
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Male 5,620
I wasn`t saying that homosexual sodomy in the sense you suggest was illegal.. just that Kentucky has sodomy laws. ; )
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Female 1,112
Elkingo I rest my case. You have just proven that sodomy itself is not illegal in Kentucky, but sodomy by force or without legal consent is.
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Female 1,112
Elkingo, all of those cases involved non-consent and 2 involved minors. There were rape charges that they would have be convicted of (if they were convicted) so I don`t think this has much weight as an argument, unless you can produce a case in which both participants were willing and able to consent.
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Female 158
Straight couples can do anal sex too dumbass! And an easier soloution is to allow the marrige, but prohibit it from being taught in school! They don`t teach straight marrige, why teach gay marrige? jeez these people run our country?
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Male 5,620
And, to really hammer in my point here is the actual Kentucky state laws on Sodomy from the Kentucky State Legislature page:

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/krs/510-00/070.PDF
http://www.lrc.ky.gov/krs/510-00/080.PDF
http://www.lrc.ky.gov/krs/510-00/090.PDF
http://www.lrc.ky.gov/krs/510-00/100.PDF

Under Kentucky state law, those are the 4 degrees of Sodomy.

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Male 5,620
Struck down? I think not.. In one of those cases a man was arrested on Sodomy charges in 2006.
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Female 1,112
Score for pilanus!
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Male 674
"Actually, Sodomy is a crime in Kentucky. "

Actually, it isn`t. Lawrence v. Texas overturned all anti-sodomy laws in the United States in 2003.

"Justice Stevens concluded that (1) the fact a State’s governing majority has traditionally viewed a particular practice as immoral is not a sufficient reason for upholding a law prohibiting the practice, and (2) individual decisions concerning the intimacies of physical relationships, even when not intended to produce offspring, are a form of `liberty` protected by due process... It does involve two adults who, with full and mutual consent, engaged in sexual practices common to a homosexual lifestyle. Petitioners’ right to liberty under the Due Process Clause gives them the full right to engage in private conduct without government intervention."

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/02...

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Male 76
stupid, stupid mean person
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Female 1,134
@madest apparently she did but this stupid bitch needs to shut her goddamn mouth. she just an embarrassment to New Hampshire and especially Nashua.
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Female 1,112
odc it never happened.
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Female 318
Just because they make same sex marriage legal, does not mean they need to show 5th graders porn. The school was in the wrong, not the bill. Little kids should not have to be exposed to crap like that.
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Male 350
>Isseepy
>With my boyfriend. That wasn`t an invitation, guys

First I was like ":-D", but then I was like ":-("

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Male 7,378
v That`s no apology.
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Female 1,134
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Female 160
But straight people do anal too. Haven`t tried it yet, but I`ll take it in the ass just to see what it`s like. (With my boyfriend. That wasn`t an invitation, guys).
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Male 771
I had sex ed wayyyy back in elementary EvilBloop and learned about marriage when I was born into a family with a mom and dad in the same household... I`m sure it`ll be known that it is an option for same sexes isn`t that what all this is about not having to feel like being gay is some bad thing any more and should be an option without being criticized, and have equal standing? Correct me if I`m wrong, so in one form or another same sex relationships will somehow be an issue in the schools.
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Female 1,134
Clearly this woman is lying and you guys if by any chance they showed pornographic matterial in the school system it would be on the news in seconds and the two main news websites that New Hampshire has is www.wmur.com and www.nashuatelegraph.com she`s just probably mad cause gay marriages is legal in New Hampshire and besides this woman is an embarcessment to the nh community.
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Female 3,574
lol you haven`t met many Christians then.

Any Christian who has actually, y`know, read the Bible wouldn`t spew such hatred, since it is repeatedly said by Jesus NOT to hate.

Also, many churches have affirming congregations.

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Male 450
help i need an adult
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Female 1,112
Christianity really isn`t the issue here, it`s homophobia and intolerance. And fear of writhing in poop. Who does that. I mean besides the stars of german scat porn and 2 girls one cup.
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Male 7,378
That`s the new Christian "We hate fags" line of defense. "They`re going to teach your children!" "Our children will be watching GAY PORN in school!" They used that line to scare the people of Maine and California and now it`s in New Hampshire. Every Christian I`ve met holds onto the gay hate while eat shellfish at Red Lobster. Their hypocrisy is indefensible.
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Female 1,112
Hey thanks for looking into the matter Rebel!
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Male 477
Allow me to clear some things up for you guys.
The bill in question actually says NOTHING about displaying pornography of ANY kind in the classroom. There isn`t a single school textbook out there that even has illustrative diagrams depicting actual sex acts. And the bill for gay marriage says NOTHING about school curriculums.
This woman was spouting the same scare tactics about indoctrination that she and her kind have been using for DECADES: teh gays are out to get ur children.
Thirdly, this woman clearly has no experience in anal sex in the first place. "Guuuurl, you suppose ta clean yoself befoe doin that shiat." Any experienced bottom knows to be feces-free before coitus. As do women who participate in the same act.
And lastly, Rep Elliot RETRACTED her statement today after looking through her records and asking around and finding NO evidence to support her story and realizing it was hearsay (or that she`s just a homophobic, baldfaced liar).
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Male 198
Who lets people like this decide anything? Shouldn`t there be an IQ test or something to be in charge of something?
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Female 1,112
lol to some degree I have to agree. Stranger things have happened.
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Male 5,620
EvilBloop: American politics making no sense? How in the world could that happen?
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Male 93
This whole argument hinges on what is apparently porn being showed to fifth grader, which when you take a step back makes no sense. No teacher would show a child something like that because of fear of losing their job. No parent would let their child be in that class room. No lawmaker would write or pass a bill that states elementary schoolers have to look at pictures like that. The entire thing makes no sense and would never happen.
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Male 5,620
EvilBloop, not if that is what the bill states.. which I do not know what it states, but it may in fact allow pron to be showed in the classroom.
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Male 5,620
bumble, once again I agree with you. That is why I made the second statement to clarify. I haven`t looked at the bill, and I am simply commenting on the video.

The woman should have left her opinions out, and focused on the bill.

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Female 1,112
"Also, I stand by my first statement, if allowing gay marriage allows also gay porn to be shown to 5th graders, it should have never been voted in."

You have to be careful making statements like that, you`re better off researching the bill itself, and then making assertion about the bill and not the general concept of the bill. Gay marriage should be voted in, but the bill instating it should not allow the subjecting of children to pornography, would be a more accurate way of saying what I think you`re saying.

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Male 93
elkingo, actually, waht Oystah said is possible, laws actually are that simple. Telling sex ed teachers to not to refer to things by sexuality is juat that simple, you tell them not to refer to them that way. It doesn`t breach any part of the constitution to do that, it is essentially the same as telling teachers to not talk about their religion or whether they are a democrat or a republican.
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Male 5,620
Skippy - you tried to argue that Christians are hypocritical, and then stated that they are ridiculous, and follow inaccurate teachings.

I call that being hypocritical.


Also, I stand by my first statement, if allowing gay marriage allows also gay porn to be shown to 5th graders, it should have never been voted in.

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Female 1,112
"So could this be resolved by simply not using pictures and by not referring to sex acts as gay or straight, but just as to what they are, anal, vaginal, oral? Sex ed in schools should only focus on health and safety and facts, not sexual preferences. "

I couldn`t agree more, but sexual preferences should be discussed in terms of tolerance.

Man the states must be hard to live in. I come across the occasional bigot up here (my brother being one) but for the most part people keep it to themselves or at least temper it by saying something stupid like "I don`t care if people are gay, it just weirds me out."

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Male 52
also i would like to see where in the bill it says doing so would show pornographic material to children.

BTW: I`m opting out. It`s pointless to even argue against you elkingo. The fact you stated something and then denied it, when i showed you that you did INFACT state it, you still denied it, then your just as bad as the Xians. You tried redeem yourself by saying a little after note stating all pornographic material to underage children should be condemned, but alas, calling me an ignorant hypocrite, when there wasn`t a single hypocritical part about my rant went on shows only how you perceive things in your world.

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Male 5,620
Bumble - it sounds like it from the ignorant statements made in the video. It should be investigated is what I say.
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Male 93
The whole "gay marriage/sex will be/is taught in school" thing is bull crap. Exactly when were any of you taught by teachers about marriage or sex in elementary school? I`m guessing it wasn`t until at least middle school that they even acknowledged that sex existed. When we had it, we all knew more than the teacher, who was spilling "sex makes your eyes fall out" kind of lies, so we are doing more harm in those kind of "abstinence only" sex ed classes then if they were taught in a way that actually used facts and included gay sex instead of what my teacher said, "The anus is exit only, and I want you all to promise me that you will never use it for more than that."
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Male 5,620
Oystah- unfortunately, American laws are never that simple.
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Female 1,112
"Allowing Gay marriage has the tack on allowing pornography in the classroom, then yes it should be revisited and reconsidered."

Do you honestly think that is the case?

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Male 5,620
Bumble, I agree with you. Homosexual marriage should have nothing to do with sex ed in the school.

The video did portray her disgust for the act, allowing something doesn`t mean you have to think it is a good thing, that is called tolerance.

For example: I think being a drunk is revolting, that doesn`t mean I am against alcohol sales.

Like I said, this woman in the video is clearly ignorant, but what she brought up should be checked into. If they are showing that sort of material in the classroom, it should be stopped.

Now, you know how American laws work.. Someone votes for lower taxes, and attached to that bill is a stimulus for something no one would vote for. If that is the case with this: Allowing Gay marriage has the tack on allowing pornography in the classroom, then yes it should be revisited and reconsidered.

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Female 4,039
So could this be resolved by simply not using pictures and by not referring to sex acts as gay or straight, but just as to what they are, anal, vaginal, oral? Sex ed in schools should only focus on health and safety and facts, not sexual preferences.
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Female 1,112
If this woman were truly concerned she should have examined the curriculum in question and brought forth factual evidence that this is occurring, and if her position truly reflected her concern for the children`s welfare, she would have omitted the gay portion of her argument and extended it to the use of any and all pornographic material.
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Male 5,620
Skippy.. You are wrong. Judaism doesn`t allow homosexuality. It accepts the person, but not the act. In Judaism a person can be gay, so long as they never have gay sexual relations. It considers homosexuality an affront to God.
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Female 1,112
ok, but a) her point was clearly not the pornographic content, but the her misinterpreted understanding of anal sex and how it disgusts her (masked by her secondary opposition to porn in the classroom) b) her source that this is happening is hearsay from a mother whom we know absolutely nothing about. c)the allowance of same sex marriage has absolutely nothing to do with allowing minors to view pornographic material. making that leap is fallacious.
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Male 52
Yeah because believe it or not, there are homosexuals out there in the world. Which to say, in the least, that showing sex ed without showing homosexuals education is stunting America growth, and leaving a portion of people wondering why they went in the first place.
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Male 5,620
Bumble, Skippy, I am referring to what was said in the video.

Her point made was: Pornographic material has came in on this bill as an umbrella.


They could have voted in world peace, that doesn`t make it right to show pornographic material to children.

I didn`t say I was for or against homosexuality, but if voting that in allows for pornographic material to be shown to elementary aged children, it is wrong.

I am arguing that regardless of one`s stance on homosexuality, it should not be taught in the school using a method that includes full frontal nudity, and showing the "how to`s" of any sexual act. Not just homosexuality.

The point of this woman`s rant on the vote, was plain: There was no pornographic material before the vote on same sex marriage, so maybe it should be reconsidered.

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Female 1,112
elkingo...I can accept your clarification. Sorry if I misunderstood.
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Male 52
And to be honest, I look at Xians for a second. The jewish bible, relying on the old testament, where indeed the homosexuals were condemned in the old testament, allow gay marriage. However, the Catholics and the Christians, who believe in peace and love and more hippy dippy crap, condemned people on a regular basis.
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Female 1,112
I`m not Christian, and I`m not going to argue with you about the Christians who have revised their faith to be more accepting and open minded.
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Male 5,620
skippy, you should have read the very next post I made: "And to further clarify, showing two women having homosexual relations, or a man and a woman having heterosexual relations to 5th graders is wrong. The point to be made, is no sexual explicit videos should be shown to elementary school kids. Sexual education should not involve pornography of any type, in any school aged setting, let along 5th grade aged children. "
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Female 1,112
"I didn`t give my opinion at all on same sex marriage, I simply stated it is wrong to show pornographic material to 5th graders. I don`t care what you are voting on for that matter, if it allows pornographic material to be shown to 5th graders it should be outed."

You did make a stance on gay sex teaching in school whether you meant to or not, because in stating that pornographic material is unsuitable for young children (agreed), and then extending that assertion by stating any lifestyle promotion that allows the showing of pornographic material should be "outed", you are saying you would rather gay sex not be taught. I agree at 5th grade level the details of any sex should be carefully limited, but the idea that safe sex should be practiced in any regard including the often ignored oral sex, but to say that promoting a lifestyle as acceptable in our society does not endanger anyone. It protects them.

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Male 52
"Showing a 5th grade kid a video of two naked men having homosexual relations is not right. This woman may be uneducated and sheltered, but she is right. If allowing gay marriage opens the door to showing porn in school, then it shouldn`t be allowed."
-Elkingo


And yes, you did say that. BTW did you ever think that for 1) It is illegal to show any kind of porn to any child under 18 years of age, and 2) They likely, if showing gay "porn" which probably consisted of telling them the hygiene of anal sex (I mean, seriously...its sex ed. it likely to help the kids in the future, not stunt them.) and 2) If Gay Porn was shown, would you consider straight porn shown? Not everyone democrat are out to eat your babies and rape the women...

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Male 5,620
Skippy, how does attacking Christianity promote your point? It makes you look even more ignorant, and makes you look like a hypocrite. Considering you are arguing that Christians are not tolerant.
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Male 5,620
Skippy, as a proud Kentuckian who is not a radical, or a hick, your statement on Kentucky doesn`t prove anything other than your ignorance.
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Male 52
I agree with you, Bumble, but you can`t be sane to say you would condemn 10% of the open homosexuals, and the theoretical 20-30% of homosexuals in the world because some damn, ridiculous, not to mention clearly inaccurate book told you do something. A book, to mind you, that claims a magical something created all of us in HIS image, which is to say, people are gay in HIS image.
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Male 5,620
I am going by what was said in the video. I do not have the means to assess the curriculum nor do I have the means to assess the video in question. It was brought up because there was never any sort of material presented like this before. Somehow when same sex marriage was allowed, someone used an umbrella to allow a video of this nature to be shown.

I didn`t give my opinion at all on same sex marriage, I simply stated it is wrong to show pornographic material to 5th graders. I don`t care what you are voting on for that matter, if it allows pornographic material to be shown to 5th graders it should be outed.

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Female 1,112
Oh, and for anyone who doesn`t believe children would find out about this stuff for themselves, look at the world we`re living in. I learned about sex from the Christian kids next door, because they wanted to be in control of what their kids understood sex to be. That`s cool, but the kids then did what kids do, and they immediately told all their friends. 2 of the kids who have come out to me were from extremely prejudiced Christian homes and were thrown out by their families. How did they know about gay sex? They didn`t they just knew they liked guys more than girls. Fetuses have been documented making masturbation like movements in the womb, complete with an increase in heart rate. Children masturbate a lot. Little boys and girls play doctor long before they know their parts can go together. Kids know about sex because they are sexual creatures, and that weirds us out, so we pretend it`s not there. Try and tell me you never had to "play" in the privacy of your own room?
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Male 52
No most are though. and all it takes is most. There are a small portion of republicans that are even logical to talk to because they try to defeat logic with nonsense. Infact, most of them listen to propaganda from the "Higher Ups" and then spread that crap to everyone.
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Female 1,112
"as for BumbleBB, Most of the right wing ARE christians, since Regan aligned himself and radically changed the republican views. Most republicans are there because it is the christian standpoints (I.E Anti Abortion, Anti Gay Marriage, etc)."

I know that, I just don`t like to categorize all right wingers as nut jobs, because they aren`t all nut jobs, and I have no problem with most Christians as long as they recognize my right to not believe in Christian values.

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Male 970
I think they should stay neutral on the gay/straight issue and show bestiality instead!
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Male 52
No, you claimed that if allowing gay marriage leads to showing pornos to underage children, then your opting out. Which is ridiculous to say the least, because your letting propaganda from the right wing side get to you, and your just part of their game. as for BumbleBB, Most of the right wing ARE christians, since Regan aligned himself and radically changed the republican views. Most republicans are there because it is the christian standpoints (I.E Anti Abortion, Anti Gay Marriage, etc).
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Female 1,112
Not to mention Gay has nothing to do with putting porn in a curriculum anymore than straight does. A woman trying to get rid of gay sex teachings as her mission would exaggerate the content of the lessons to make a point that isn`t there. A politician who doesn`t bend the truth...come on now.
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Male 5,620
bumble, If it details what this lady says, two naked men performing anal sex, then yes, it is too much for children at that age.

By that argument, for that age group, any naked people having sexual relations is wrong to show to 5th graders.

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Female 1,112
you obviously live in a cave and haven`t heard of bisexuals? And if you`re thinking good Christians don`t sleep with bisexuals, and don`t have extramarital sex, even if that were true, have you never heard of a born again Christian, or anyone who has repented for their sins. FOR dratS SAKE! EDUCATION IS WHAT HAS DECREASED THE RATE AIDS IN THIS COUNTRY OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS! Get a brain.
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Male 5,620
Skippy, I didn`t make the claim that it would start an apocalypse. Nor did i talk about the morality issues around homosexuality. I stated that it is wrong to show pornography to elementary aged children. In the video this ignorant woman points out that voting yes on gay marriage allowed pornographic material to be shown to 5th graders.
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Male 52
yeah and Kentucky is a state full of religious radicals and hicks. So that didn`t prove anything.
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Female 1,112
"Showing a 5th grade kid a video of two naked men having homosexual relations is not right. This woman may be uneducated and sheltered, but she is right. If allowing gay marriage opens the door to showing porn in school, then it shouldn`t be allowed. Sexual education I am not against, but I am against showing porn to elementary school aged children."

I`d like to see this "pornographic" material everyone is talking about. Let`s think about this, there is a distinction between pornography and nudity. I doubt that the state jumped from hardly any sex education, to gay sex being ok and exposing youngsters to porn being ok too. Unless we can see the material in question we cannot make accurate judgments. Further more gay sex has nothing to do with pornography. The inclusion of gay sex in safe sex teaching should be included to promote safety. If you`re a right wing nut job who thinks "let all the gays have unsafe sex, and let the AIDS get them",

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Male 5,620
"Gay sex, including anal sex, is completely legal in the United States of America. What you personally think of it doesn`t matter a bit."

Actually, Sodomy is a crime in Kentucky.

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Male 52
Elkingo, if one man and another man get married, it won`t start the apocalypse and it won`t start some underage pornographic viewing. That is simply propaganda from the radical religious views and homophobes. When gay marriage was allowed in California, people were lining up and saying how that contributes to people get married to animals and stuff. That stuff is just more radical thinking from irrational people.
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Male 5,620
And to further clarify, showing two women having homosexual relations, or a man and a woman having heterosexual relations to 5th graders is wrong. The point to be made, is no sexual explicit videos should be shown to elementary school kids. Sexual education should not involve pornography of any type, in any school aged setting, let along 5th grade aged children.
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Male 5,620
Showing a 5th grade kid a video of two naked men having homosexual relations is not right. This woman may be uneducated and sheltered, but she is right. If allowing gay marriage opens the door to showing porn in school, then it shouldn`t be allowed. Sexual education I am not against, but I am against showing porn to elementary school aged children.
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Male 52
Sterilize her so she can`t reproduce dumbass children like herself.
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Male 376
Aw shoot. Looks like I missed another entertaining IAB argument on a controversial issue :(
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Male 1,013
@Flame, you are partially correct. I believe she said wiggling around in excrement. Without that last part, then the 5th graders in Nashua will be confused about the sanchez discussion.
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Male 4,593
Politicians; go figure.
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Male 602
She`s just mad cause her last man was rough on her and didn`t to anal right. He should have been gentler. Bet I could change her mind.

Anal isn`t just for gay guys!

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Female 3,574
You`d be one of the ones sterilized, Pilanus.
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Male 1,219
Wiggling? Is that really what happens?
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Male 7,378
"Parents should be in control of what their kids see and learn."
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Yeah CrakrJak, Everyone can see that worked out well for you.
Another republican that wants the right to ban books, teach religion and hide science from children. Thankfully you`re not in control.
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Female 86
good lord why does this ignorant lady have to be from my state? Sonofabitch
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Male 674
"So you`re an elitist that believes they know what best for the rest of society eh ? I guess you`ll want to see Eugenics and Forced Sterilization next."

Yes I am an elitist that believes I know what is best for the rest of society; that would be extinction; or if not extinction, then you already said my next two most favorable opinions. Breed humans like we do all the species we have domesticated, and forcefully sterilize all others.

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Female 718
I don`t know what`s going on in the forum but I will say that woman sounds like she has a big old stick up her bum.
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Male 17,511
"i hope CrakrJak is trolling =/"

No, I`m not. Sometimes absurdity needs to be pointed out through absurdity and/or sarcasm.

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Male 3,619
i hope CrakrJak is trolling =/

Socialism works best in small countries where it is easier for a bigger part of the population to relate to their guvornment. or atleast that`s how I see it.

The need for freedom is relative. In a socialistic world, you don`t NEED all that freedom, a concept that is hard for the Average Joe to grasp.

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Male 9,305
"So you`re an elitist that believes they know what best for the rest of society eh ? I guess you`ll want to see Eugenics and Forced Sterilization next."

Obvious troll is obvious. You almost had me there. (^.~)v

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Male 695
sad....ignorant woman. the only thing stupider are the voters that elected her.
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Male 17,511
"Are YOU a father, Crackr?" "Just looking for perspective here"

No, I suspect your on a fishing expedition.

The answer is, It`s none of your business. I wouldn`t answer it before because it`s irrelevant.

However, I suspect you`d have some criticism either way right ?

You`d either tell me my kids are going to grow up ignorant and on Jerry Springer, Or that I`d have no right to talk about the issue.

Too bad, I don`t fall for traps like that.

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Male 17,511
"Since when was Socialism a Bad Word?"

I forgot you live in Europe where Socialism is sacrosanct. My gosh socialism is the best system on the planet! <sarcasm>

This is an American issue, We have freedoms here that you don`t. And one of them is the freedom to raise our children they way WE want, Not the way the state wants.

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Male 12,138
Third time`s the charm, asking again:

"Are YOU a father, Crackr?"

Just looking for perspective here...

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Male 17,511
"In your world, children would not be educated about sex."

Incorrect sir, But I believe it`s the parents primary responsibility. I`m glad to hear you prepared your children, That`s what good parents do.

How a kid is prepared for those realities should only be up to their parents, Regardless if you believe they`ll do a good job or not. It`s not for you or the state to judge or take over another parent`s responsibilities.

Again, the "They are going to do it anyway" is a falsehood. I didn`t do drugs, Drink alcohol, Or have premarital sex. Nor, Was I ignorant of the risks of each.

You wouldn`t want me teaching my values to your kids, or visa versa. So why would you believe the state would do a better job than either of us ?

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Male 12,138
[quote]You are talking socialism here, Take the kids away from their parents and have the state educate them. [/quote]

Since when was Socialism a Bad Word? The rest of the f*cking planet runs on socialism, and we`re all doing good. Europe, Scandanavia, The Far East, The Middle East, Africa... Including China which makes all you f*cking stuff. Christ, the list goes on. Why are you clingling on to this McCarthyist Communism-is-a-threat bullsh*t? The USSR is dead, old man. Let it go, move on with the times.

The delicious irony here crakrjak, is that obviously their parents ARE NOT educating them, hence the reason why they end up on Maury Povich. At least with State Education, kids are getting something that they`re clearly not getting at home.

And I repeat my question, not to be an ass, but because it`s relevant: Are YOU a father, Crackr?

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Male 17,511
"...some of the most f*cked up people I know, are that way, because they weren`t educated in the implications of what they were doing... because, let`s face it, some parents won`t address the issue"

Then that`s complete and total irresponsible parenting isn`t it ?
I don`t believe the argument that the state knows best overruling and undermining a parents responsibilities. You are talking socialism here, Take the kids away from their parents and have the state educate them.

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Male 12,138
I’ve talked twice now about my world, time to talk about your world. In your world, children would not be educated about sex. Kids are going to do it anyway, Crackrjak, whether it’s drink or drugs or sex, or (God forbid!) homosexual sex. As much as your right-wing views would like to believe otherwise (ain’t they just saints though? Jes look at them!), they WILL discover it out for themselves.

And I, as a Dad, would rather have them prepared for the reality of life in the 21st century, rather than shielded from it. Are YOU a father, Crackr?

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Male 12,138
nother example. In my world, kids would be taught about alcohol in school. They`d be taught how it`s made, the laws about purchasing alcohol, and the terrible things it can do to you liver if abused. It’s no coincidence that the rates of alcohol-related mortality are 3x higher in the US than in France, where they drink wine at every meal. I’ve met many Americans who turned 18, went to college, and decimated themselves by going mad because it was the first time they had ever even been exposed to this miracle of alcohol.

Crakrjak, I fail to understand at a very fundamental level where you come from when you suggest denial of basic education to children on things that they are going to be exposed to everyday. It saddens me.

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Male 12,138
Come now Crakr, I wasn`t deflecting, any more than you were proposing the slippery slope argument, which is a well-known logical fallacy.

You advocate denying children information on such issues as alcohol, drugs, sexual intercourse, homosexuality (and apparently nuclear physics, but we`ll ignore that for now, as you objected).

Dude, some of the most f*cked up people I know, are that way, because they weren`t educated in the implications of what they were doing.

Let`s take the example of sex, to pick one at random. In my world, children would be educated at school (because, let`s face it, some parents won`t address the issue) about sex. They would learn about contraception, what intercourse is, and what it can lead to. You`d hide them from the reality of sexual intercourse.

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Male 17,511
"I`m saying it`s up to the useless people squirting out babies and then never taking any freaking responsibility."

So you`re an elitist that believes they know what best for the rest of society eh ? I guess you`ll want to see Eugenics and Forced Sterilization next.

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Male 17,511
"Crakr, did you seriously just link consensual homosexual intercourse to the outbreak of global thermonuclear war?"

I didn`t `Link` them. I was making a point about the issuance of information to irresponsible parties and how that it dangerous.

Nice try at deflection there. :-P

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Male 9,305
""You still get parents buying Gears of War and Grand Theft Auto for their youngsters..."
Then that`s the fault of their idiot parent isn`t it ? Still doesn`t justify your argument."

...then what the hell is the damn thing worth if it doesn`t work then? Hello? I`m saying it`s up to the useless people squirting out babies and then never taking any freaking responsibility to teach them about the world! That includes an educated look at sexuality, drinking and smoking. Not just some tripe that they toss out to shut them up!

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Male 12,138
Crakr, did you seriously just link consensual homosexual intercourse to the outbreak of global thermonuclear war?

Wow.

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Male 591
"Yeah, That`s why teens smoke more than adults (1 in 4 vs. 1 in 5) and are involved in more alcohol related car accidents than adults."

And you think that`s caused by kids being taught about the dangers of cigarettes and alcohol is school? Seriously?

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Male 17,511
"You still get parents buying Gears of War and Grand Theft Auto for their youngsters..."

Then that`s the fault of their idiot parent isn`t it ? Still doesn`t justify your argument.

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Male 17,511
"Guess what? Kids ARE told about cigarettes and alcohol, but by no means are they encouraged to partake."

Yeah, That`s why teens smoke more than adults (1 in 4 vs. 1 in 5) and are involved in more alcohol related car accidents than adults.

Let`s inform them about auto-erotic asphyxiation as well and see how that goes. Let`s give Iran the info they need to build high grade nuclear weapons too. Information in irresponsible hands can be and is dangerous.

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Male 9,305
"After all isn`t that why there are ratings labels on Games, TV Shows, Dvds, Etc.. ? To keep kids safe."

Well that was mainly an idea to help parents decide what would be appropriate for their children. It doesn`t work. You still get parents buying Gears of War and Grand Theft Auto for their youngsters (under 16) AFTER the sales clerk has warned them about the content (because no one reads the damn box in the first place) and they still buy it, go home, see little Timmy beat up a prostitute or get sawed in half, and then go all the way back to the store to complain to the SALES CLERK why THEY should help parent someone ELSE`S child.

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Female 1,677
They weren`t training children to perform anal sex you whacked out lunatic. Guess what? Kids ARE told about cigarettes and alcohol, but by no means are they encouraged to partake. Information is not the enemy.
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Male 17,511
"Gay sex, including anal sex, is completely legal in the United States of America. What you personally think of it doesn`t matter a bit."

By that same logic Cigarettes and Alcohol are legal too, Let`s demand training in those activities for our kids as well. <sarcasm>

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Male 17,511
bumbleBB: The "they are going to do it anyway" argument has been around a long time and it`s not correct.

You learned what you learned as an adult, That`s your business. Kids at age 10-11 do not need this information fed to them by the state. Parents should be in control of what their kids see and learn.

After all isn`t that why there are ratings labels on Games, TV Shows, Dvds, Etc.. ? To keep kids safe.

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Male 472
I wish I was given pictures of people having sex when I was in 5th grade. Gay or strait I would have just laughed my ass off.
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Male 9,305
Mondo48, you being weirded out weirds me out. It`s just so unnatural to be weirded out my something! I mean, ewwww! It MUST be an offense to God or something, you`re a dirty sinner! Ewww! You`re weirded out by me having bummy sex! Ewww!
^(>w<)^ *flails arms*
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Male 12,138
Mondo, hate speech of any kind is not acceptable at IAB. Normally I`d be prepared to let you off with a warning, but seeing as you`ve been temp banned previously for blatant racism, I`m deleting your post and kicking you, permanently. You really out to know better by now.

Stick to 4chan dude, they need more people like you over there.

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Male 9,305
"Well, I agree with her. 5th graders should not be exposed to deviant behavior. They won`t know which end is up, so to speak. And that`s how Rome fell."

Rome fell because they spread themselves too thin and hired mercenaries from the lands they had just conquered. Not because they were banging each other. If they fell due to sex, humans wouldn`t have a society period unless everyone was in chastity belts.

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Female 465
Well, I agree with her. 5th graders should not be exposed to deviant behavior. They won`t know which end is up, so to speak. And that`s how Rome fell.
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Female 1,112
Mondo48 take off your white damn hood and get out! Who says it`s wrong to get it the butt (what, what? in the butt)? You? read a text book sometime, because even if your ass backwards country men agree with you (which I assure you plenty don`t) homosexuality has been accepted and even revered throughout history. Moreover, i won`t say this again, anal sex has very little to do with homosexuality. Get out of our lovely IAB you crazy bigoted loser.
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Female 184
Hey, Lady, don`t knock it `til you`ve tried it
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Male 9,305
"So it`s wrong if my girlfriend tickles my prostate?
Sh-t feels good!"

Nice.

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Female 1,112
nitrojunkie.... officially my hero of the day.
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Male 758
So it`s wrong if my girlfriend tickles my prostate?
Sh-t feels good!
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Female 90
That`s stupid... Straight guys like anal too.
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Female 3,574
LOL NightHack that`s awkward XD
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Female 3,574
... wow. This woman must be a hoot at parties.
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Male 204
" `This is offensive for two reasons: she assumes ALL gay men have anal sex. This is not the case.
Two: she condemns anal sex as a whole, which is totally wrong because anal sex is awesome. `
:D Marry me"
Of course, now I realize I posted that comment while logged in under my girlfriend`s profile... d`oh!
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Male 563
Fifth grade? God damn, they need to start experimenting earlier. As soon as they come out of the wound they should be taught how to perform anal sex! But not before the fat ones have all that tub of blub sucked out of those pot-bellies.
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Male 86
This is offensive for two reasons: she assumes ALL gay men have anal sex. This is not the case.
Two: she condemns anal sex as a whole, which is totally wrong because anal sex is awesome.
:D Marry me
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Female 387
What, so she`s trying to tell us that straight couples don`t do it in the butt?
Couldn`t she have come up with a better argument then that?
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Male 12,138
[quote]Something tells me shes republican...[/quote]

Why yes, yes she is. What was the giveaway?

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Male 7,378
Oh I know what it is.. It`s her intelligence..
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Male 7,378
Something tells me shes republican...
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Male 1,406
Well, it is enjoyable having an obtrusion in your anus. What`s that? You don`t want to hear about my personal experiences with anal penetration? PRUDE.
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Female 236
What a fruit cake!
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Female 130
ignorant lady is being ignorant.
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Male 34
What a fruitcake. i cant believe she`s in the House!?
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Male 591
Psst...Rep. Elliot? You badly need a clue. Gay sex, including anal sex, is completely legal in the United States of America. What you personally think of it doesn`t matter a bit.
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Male 9,305
"I think she needs to be anally penetrated by a big gay black man."

No GAY man would touch her, no straight man would either.

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Male 5,314
don`t know, don`t care
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Male 8,300
> Fartacus
> Technically, it`s not excrement until it`s been excreted.

LOL technically you are correct, which makes it funnier.

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Female 529
Technically, it`s not excrement until it`s been excreted.
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Female 331
This is offensive for two reasons: she assumes ALL gay men have anal sex. This is not the case.
Two: she condemns anal sex as a whole, which is totally wrong because anal sex is awesome.
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Male 121
butt sex is gross, let`s make it illegal.
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Female 1,677
"teaching kids that "gay sex is OK" to 7 yr olds... but i digress!)"

Should they be taught it`s not OK? Everything is okay if it`s consensual and safe, and that is all that`s being taught (unless abstinence is being taught, which is the only thing I find to NOT be OK).

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Female 1,677
LazyMe, maybe *you* need to be penetrated by a large rooster.
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Male 2,440
Methinks she doesn`t take it in the pooper.
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Male 10,440
I think she needs to be anally penetrated by a big gay black man.
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Male 670
so...she doesnt do anal?
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Female 1,134
When I was in 5th grade in the Nashua NH school system they took the boys in one room and girls in another room and we had to watch a crappy video about abstinence and the whole changes of a male and female body. shes probably blowing something out of proportion.
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Male 719
If I remember right, Sex Ed basically consisted of about an hour a year between 3rd and 5th grades, followed by a section of health class in 7th or 8th grade.

In third and fourth, it was basically "you have a penis."
In fifth, it was "girls have vaginae. Babies are made by sticking your penis inside the vagina. Here`s some deodorant."
In middle school (the first time boys and girls weren`t separated), it was about sexual health, proper usage of contraceptives, and an opportunity for (anonymous) questions to be put forward.

I think that this method worked fine. As for anal sex, it should be included from a safety point of view (7th grade), but should not be depicted for 5th graders. At that age, it should be "this is what a penis does, this is what a vagina does, and this is what happens when you put them together." I`m sure they don`t provide images of handjobs, blowjobs, BDSM, masturbation, etc.

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Male 7,833
if you dont want it in the pooper, dont take it in the pooper. guys, if you do, good for you. ladies, if you do, let me know, we can work something out.
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Female 1,112
"Aside from this lady`s dislike for Greek style, she makes a valid point that porno pics are being shown to 5th graders (assuming what she says is true, and I believe it since "sex ed" here in Winnipeg starts in Kindergarden, teaching kids that "gay sex is OK" to 7 yr olds"

Alright there are a few things wrong with this statement (whoa I can get in debate mode way to fast) A) She is referring to 5th graders who would be hitting puberty, and trust me, as member of the current generation some kids (far from all) are doing stuff. B) sex ed to some degree should be taught from birth. I friggin called my vagina a PP for god knows how long and got into an extensive fight with a friends older brother about how I had PP and he did not since he referred to his own as such. C) Coming from Canadian schools myself, and having nieces and nephews in school across the prairie provinces and BC, I doubt that the sex ed in your kids class has anything to do with porn.

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Male 9,305
Okay where the hell was all this "porno sex ed" when I was in school? When I was in around 6th grade we were given one of those outdated 1960`s "What`s happening to your body" videos, and then in high school we had two women come in talking to us about condoms AT MINIMUM, they even said they couldn`t answer all our questions because they "weren`t allowed to".

Now 7-year-olds are being shown graphic sex? Are you serious? What the hell happened since 2003?

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Male 40,764
[quote]People do some odd things in bed, straight people included.[/quote]
Amen sistah! Woot!
Aside from this lady`s dislike for Greek style, she makes a valid point that porno pics are being shown to 5th graders (assuming what she says is true, and I believe it since "sex ed" here in Winnipeg starts in Kindergarden, teaching kids that "gay sex is OK" to 7 yr olds... but i digress!)
Ahem! So that part is OK, it`s her reasoning & logic, you`re not required to agree. Hooray for freedom!
PS: being gay requires mutual penis-anus insertion, there`s technically another word for gay-pushers-only and gay-receivers-only... the Greeks have words for everything!!
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Male 272
someone needs some chocolate ice cream!
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Female 1,112
Well unless you`re typically constipated you may want to lay off anything with laxatives anyway lol. But in all seriousness the part of the rectum that is involved in anal sex is usually empty unless you are ready to have a bowel movement, so unless you usually have sex when you feel the need to poo, you`re probably going to be ok. Enemas are pretty much unnecessary, and can actually be dangerous especially if performed alone. The more you know!
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Male 14,331
@BumbleBB
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Male 1,590
"My advice today would be to lay off the Twizzlers if you`re planning to have anal sex - you probably need something with the water pressure of a firehose to get those out of there. "

That`s only red Twizzlers. Black Twizzlers contain liquorice which is also a mild natural laxative.

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Female 876
Also.. Are there really people who wig about anal sex these days? Every dude I`ve ever talked to either tried to get their girlfriend to do it, or enjoys it with his girlfriend.

Been there. Done that. World didn`t end. I didn`t die.

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Male 25,416
not exciting but boring!
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Female 876
I can`t really hear any of this video. It`s just *paper rustle* "talking about... *paper rustle* *incoherent blah* *rustle rustle*...

Anyone know a better video?

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Male 9,305
"My advice today would be to lay off the Twizzlers if you`re planning to have anal sex - you probably need something with the water pressure of a firehose to get those out of there. "

Oh lawdy I am SO glad I gave up that crap. XD

Peloos, I love the idea of Satan being God`s crazy ex. I have to write that now, it works too well.

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Female 1,112
Hell Yeah! Sue Johanson is the poo! She`s the kind Canadian Grandmother of the sexually uneducated. TV can be used for good or evil the same as any other medium. I think it still has major drawbacks, but it certainly got my attention at 15. EDUCATE THE MASSES! LEARN SOMETHING, OPEN YOUR MIND, AND YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME FUN!!
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Male 2,056
LMAO bumbleBB

man, i haven`t watched tv in a while . .

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Female 237
@bumbleBB You`ve made me realise that TV isn`t such a bad thing, if it can teach you something that can save your life I guess I have to rethink my views on it.

And to all those who don`t like anal, don`t do it. Think it`s wrong? Don`t do it. You can`t stop other from doing it though... So let them be safe. Human safety is something we should all have access to.

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Female 1,112
crakrjack - get the f out. Kids should know how to do what they`re gonna do anyway in a safe manner. If it weren`t for the Sunday Night Sex Show, I would have never known that rough anal sex can lead to fissures of the anus, and since poo is acidic it will eat away at these small tears. Next thing you know you`re poopin outta your hooha. That`s why I always take it nice and slow. I`m straight. I`m a WOMAN. Anal sex has been around for ever, and it ain`t going anywhere. And FYI if you do it right it feels pretty good.
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Male 2,056
oh ya, one more thing

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Female 4,039
My advice today would be to lay off the Twizzlers if you`re planning to have anal sex - you probably need something with the water pressure of a firehose to get those out of there.
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Female 237
I think beyond the fact of people thinking if it is "normal" or not we have to think in terms of what is "safe." And gay safe sex will make for a better world. They`re gonna do it anyway, makesure they are safe. Same for all sexually active creatures. People do some odd things in bed, straight people included. Gay people don`t have the monopoly on "what is wrong."
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Female 1,112
ElDavo...Right on brotha! (was that really wrong of me to say) [fist in the air]
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Male 98
First of all, gay men didn`t invent anal sex. Every one of my straight male friends would be having it if their girlfriends allowed it (many do, I`m told).

As far as enemas or douches go, has anyone heard of a high-fiber diet?

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Female 77
is it bad that I live in NH and I`ve never heard of her??
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Male 1,297
lol peloos wins this time.
also dont forget, he created adam and kept him naked in his garden for a while before eve entered the picture- by adam`s request, not gods...

GOD IS GAY!!! :0

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Female 237
Also, it won`t encourage youngsters to have gay sex because it is well... Gay. And we all know that most teenagers would hate to feel isolated and the sad fact is that being young and gay can be the cause of bullying.

She`s from the deep south right??

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Male 17,511
Anal Sex is just repulsive to most people. Feces remain even after `a douche`.

She`s right, This should not be taught as a `Normal` sexual activity.

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Male 2,148
Since I`m feeling up to political rants right now, I`ll go ahead:
This woman uses her own unwillingness to do anal as an argument for why gay men don`t. Seriously, what kind of brainless moron finds that even close to a relevant argument. She goes on to say that a lesson about safe gay sex is clearly intended to persuade 5th graders to try gay sex. Look, the fact is that some people are gay (I`m not, in case you were wondering). She needs to accept it because it`s the truth. 5th graders are not suddenly going to have anal sex because a lesson taught them how to do it safely. 5th graders honestly won`t have sex at all. As they grow up, they`ll make their own decisions and knowing how to have safe sex with both same and opposite sexes with have no bearing on their decision.

Also, is she using "I think gay sex is gross" as an argument against gay marriage? HOW DID SHE GET ELECTED?!

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Male 1,297
i lost it when she said "that could happen to me"

somebody had a bad experience methinks...

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Male 2,056
ARE YOU F*CKING SERIOUS WOMAN!?

I`d like to know how she feels about general sex ed. in schools. I mean, you aren`t told by your teachers that "you as seventh graders (in my case) can go and have sex". It`s really "this is what sex is all about. You`ll do it latter in life"

More people need to see all the lights.

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Female 237
@oystah Immature comedy/humor is the best. I often tell people I was born up and grew down... And yeah, it is a funny image. I have a bi friend who was telling me about it. I was like "So you squirt water up your **** to get all the s*** out?" Takes half an hour he told me. Man do guys that take gotta prepair... No wonder they look so fabulous!
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Male 2,148
"I started to think"
Clearly the woman`s a liar.
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Female 4,039
@Thorna-Kate - I think it`s just I`m tired and it`s the end of the day and gay men douche struck me as funny. Douche lessons would be pretty funny also. I am highly immature if you hadn`t noticed. ;)
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Female 237
@oystah Perhaps it`s a UK thing... Douche doesn`t have the same funny connotations here, not really... I dunno! Sorry trying to educate you on something you know, darn internet peoples think they know more than everyone else, hehe.
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Male 4,680
Sometimes I wish I could punch people through the internet. This is one of those moments.
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Female 4,039
Yeah, I know what an enema is :P I thought it was funny you said gay men douche.
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Female 237
@oystah Yup, douche, enima... Basically clean out that area before "the bad thing..." I`ve known it as douching as the impliment you use to do it is similar to a vaginal douche. http://www.theunticket.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/colt_anal_douche.jpg>NSFW/under18s.">http://www.theunticket.c...
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Female 4,039
"Also, gay men douche"

That would be called an enema, no?

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Female 237
I meant anal. Bah.
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Male 34
Hi bumblebb, ah`m bulk
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Male 30
I just wish I could unhear this.
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Female 237
They are making the assumption that all men like or have gay sex.

Just... Words fail me. Right or wrong... Choice or not... People are gay. And with HIV and STI`s and STD`s I think we should allow sexually active teenagers to protect themselves and they can only learn how to do this with education.

Also, gay men douche. She herself NEEDS the education she is trying to work against. She is evidence against her own arguement.

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Male 3,819
And something tell me most people don`t have poop in mind when they go anal. She`s disturbed and is probably into scat videos. Spread the word.

NANCY ELLIOT HAS A SCAT FETISH!

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Female 224
wiggle it in the excrement? really? i mean people do worse....
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Male 3,819
I would waste my time and let people like her get me mad, but then I remember how stupid and ignorant she is and it all equals out. She loses at life. Not gay people. (I`m not gay but am an advocate...)

I still am crossing my fingers that there`s a Heaven and anti-homosexual types get up there and God says to them "You thought I didn`t LIKE GAY PEOPLE? Think about it. I live by myself in the penthouse of the universe. Take a look at my home. A little gaudy, huh? I had my son by means of artificial insemination. Satan a fallen angel? Honey, he`s just my bitter ex-boyfriend! All this smiting and cursing, I`m just doing out of boredom and sexual frustration. How did you not realize that I`M gay?"

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Female 4,039
I don`t mind anal sex - as long as it doesn`t involve my anus.
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Male 395
wow bumblebb!

be prepared for a million frustrated teens hitting on you....

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Male 9,305
There isn`t a helmet strong enough to save my head from slamming it against any desk after seeing this.
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Female 1,112
Anal sex is a great spice in the sack!
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Female 2,509
OMG bahahahahaha

"would I want to have that done to me?"

wrong question

"who would want to do that to you?" anyone? anyone?

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Male 7,378
Link: NH Rep. Nancy Elliott Discovers Homosexuality [Vid [Rate Link] - `Take a man`s penis put it in another man`s rectum and wriggle it in excrement.` Yes, she said that...
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