Black Children Are An Endangered Species

Submitted by: Dainty 7 years ago in
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/14/atlanta-anti-abortion-bil_n_461972.html

The large anti-abortion billboard in Atlanta has been causing some controversy...
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Male 28
well they`re all born addicted to crack, the withdrawls gotta kill some of em, you cant blame it all on abortions.
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Male 684
@sfcg... since when is 13 half of 51? 13 of the 51 eastern and western European countries allow at least one abortion on request.Many allow them under certain circumstances. Only 2 DO NOT ALL ABORTION FOR ANY REASON. Vatican city and Malta, and im not sure if Vatican city can be counted as a country.
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Female 914
this is just offensive and stupid. no matter race, if a woman decides to do this, it`s her choice. frankly, I would rather her get it done safely in a facility then a back alley abortion. I have no idea where these people`s heads are, but this is just another pro-life/pro-choice debate with race as the twist. ban abortions based on race? drat you and teach your kids sex education so they don`t do something stupid, like getting a back alley abortion...!!
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Male 139
Black children, and by extension children in general, are HARDLY an endangered species. For every woman that has an abortion, there are fifty more that are pumping out an unplanned, unwanted baby every nine months - a baby that will 99 times out of 100 be nothing more than a drain on society in general. I`m going to go register notenoughabortions.com.
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Male 736
the overall decline in violent crime in many regions of north america is very strongly correlated with regions that legalized at least some form of abortion rights roughly 25 years ago.
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Male 342
"Black women accounted for the majority of abortions in Georgia in 2006, even though blacks make up just a third of state population, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

They have finally called in the professionals.

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Male 684
@sfcg, sorry and Ireland.It just takes credibility away from your argument when you make up information and statistics. I am not a fan of abortion, but the truth of the matter is, if you aren`t responsible enough to use birth control, you probably aren`t going to be a very responsible parent. And just so i don`t offend anyone, I know more than a few very good unplanned parents.
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Male 92
Woah...damn...
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Male 76
ha oh my someone hasnt heard of the human genome project. but it makes sense wat the ad is trying to say, kids in africa dying everyday. its been like that since be4 apartheid, so over 25 years of kids in ethiopia dying? plus black men in the us dont seem to live past 30 without being shot by the kkk. srry, i mean police.
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Male 1,240
Feminine wile.
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Female 142
Pfft. If only.
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Male 7,378
I don`t find this shocking. Religion has a long history of lying. What I do mind is they are tax free entities. If these whack job institutions were taxed to the full extent they might not have the extra dough to place BS billboards in retard zones.
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Female 32
This seems like an extreme amount of propaganda and marketing to me, Anti-abortionists usually go to an extreme to make people look at they`re protests and what not. I think this is awful to be completely honest, but that`s america!
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Male 17
When were black people a different species? does that make all "races" different species from each other?
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Male 17,512
The site that the billboard points to has some very interesting statistics. Also the co-founder of NARAL and former abortionist doctor`s testimony of why he became pro-life. Good Read.
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Male 15,832
It seems to me that the message is pretty clear. If you`re a racist, and you hate black people, and you want to reduce their population as much as possible by the most efficient and cost-effective means, vote Democrat and contribute to Planned Parenthood.
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Female 37
its funny how they have an ad with a picture of brad and his bitch on that page.. they could just adopt any unwanted kids !!!!!!
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Female 1,682
Ha.
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Male 2,436
wow, nobody wants black babies. not even black people...
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Female 1,112
OOOh feminine wiles. I like that. Say it again. I just got chills.
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Male 321
i think all fetuses should be devoured!
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Male 108
last i checked black children were human.... and the human population is in the billions.... so how can black children be an endangered species
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Male 759
By `Black Children` i presume they actually mean `Children` as Humans are all of one species.
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Male 56
Smells like Political Agenda!
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Male 928
It`s a good thing black people aren`t the same species as white people; otherwise, this billboard would be really offensive.
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Male 1,240
... your feminine wiles are evil. Of course, I had nothing better to do. Except sleep, but then I wasn`t sleeping anyway.

But still. EVUL!

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Female 1,112
Thanks again fabarati. I suspect your right on what happened here, but hey there`s no harm in investigating. Ultimately it`s pretty irrelevant. I usually just like to make people work to convince me.
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Male 1,240
Well, I`ll agree that Simims wording was unclear, but she never specifically said half the US. I don`t know if she was refering to the us, or had lost control of her arguments, and was just going along for the ride (imagine a trolley with 3 people on it, going down a steep hill, holding on for dear life; now that was a fun night). I`m just here to provide the facts.

Also, Sweden has quite a bit lower amount of RC, seeing as it`s a predominantly protestant, and also a very secular, nation.

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Female 1,112
Hmm, so outside of the US those numbers might be true, but intially since our argument hinged on the US policies regarding abortion it`s sort of reaching. Even then those numbers aren`t more than half RC.
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Male 1,240
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4243727.stm

http://www.adherents.com/adh_branches.ht...

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/xx.html

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Male 1,240
ok, seems like my links got all messed up.

[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4243727.stm
>[url]http://www.adherents.com/adh_branch...
[url]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/xx.html

Also, my last post second post should`ve ended: "... and it mentions encyclopedia britannica 1995)"

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Male 1,240
Now, the statistics about religion will (almost) always be estimates. But it`s estimated that there are about 2 (very ish) billion christians in the world According to Encyclopædia Britannica online (I can`t link you to the article, because I`ve got access to it through my uni, but I have a screen shot, if you want it).

The Cia world factbook claims that there are 6.7 billion people in the world. 33.32% of them are christians. When further broken down, 16.99% of the world population are catholics, acording to them. Once again, these are 2007 estimates. Well, the world population number is july 2009.

[url]https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/xx.html

Need more?

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Female 1,112
no need for appologies. A lot of stuff get`s said on here (I`m a bad culprit for longwinded comments) and it`s hard to sift through it all. I miss things too. Thanks for looking into it.
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Male 1,240
My appolgoies, BumbleBB. Seems like I should`ve payed more attention.

I`m guessing she got it from Wikipedia, where it says that there were 1.147 billion members of the catholic church in 2007, and further down that it`s

"encompassing approximately half of all Christians and one sixth of the world`s population, making it the largest organized body in any world religion,[13][192] although the number of practicing as opposed to lapsed Catholics worldwide is not reliably known.[15]"

Following the sources, we get
>[url]http://www.adherents.com/adh_branch... and [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4243727.stm.

The bbc link is from 2005, and says there are 1.1 (ish) billion catholicly baptized members. The adherents website looks a tad shadier, but reports roughly the same numbers, though lower, so it looks to be outdated statistics (and it mentions encyclopedia br

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Male 795
chimenychang or whatever your name is, what about Ireland?

And okay, so not half. But ALL the states in the U.S. legalized abortion. Anyways, semantics. Break it down and maybe we can talk.

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Female 1,112
"It comprises over half of all Christians"

This is the portion of her argument I found untrue, as I quoted when I initially asked her for a source. I would gladly rectract my criticism if she proved to me she was right.

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Male 1,240
@bumbleB: Simiam never said that it was the largest in the US. She said it was the largest christian denomination, stop. Actually, I`ll quote:

"and that Catholicism is the largest denomination of Christianity"

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Female 1,112
"***THEORY ONLY***
Low-income urban areas, generally speaking, have higher rates of prostitution...........carry a child through pregnancy, lose the job you busted ass to find."

OK, I want to talk about this theory a little bit, since you have so vehemently argued your (seemingly, unless you can provide a source) incorrect statistical data.

While lower income areas may have "higher faith" they also have a bigger problem which is less education and effective community services.

I`ve already adressed the Christian thing so I`ll leave it alone.

Planned Parenthood is not in low income areas to clean up the oopsies as you`ve implied. Planned Parenthood is an organization which focuses on providing education, as well as safe and affordable sexual health care, which is needed in these areas that have as I said less of these things.

There`s more but we`ll start with that.

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Female 1,112
Everything I`ve found so far does not indicate that. There are more RC churches and denominations, but the majority of US citizens who claim a religion seem to identify themselves as protestant.
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Male 670
"simim can you provide a source please?"

I found one that said USA was 50% protestant.

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Female 1,112
"Catholicism is the largest denomination of Christianity. It comprises over half of all Christians, making it the MAJOR denomination."

simim can you provide a source please?

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Male 670
[quote]@Paul1582: Catholicism is the largest denomination of Christianity. It comprises over half of all Christians, making it the MAJOR denomination.[/quote]

Just because you`re ___________ doesn`t mean you like ___________.

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Female 1,427
***Abstinence is not a form of birth control/safe sexual practices. Kids abstain, but they`re not using birth control, are they?

Okay, back to topic: Roman Catholic Church doesn`t agree with condoms, the pill, the patch, the shot, vaginal rings or dams, spermacide, etc.

So either you`re not using birth control, you`re using Natural Family Planning with a small chance you might make it with no kids, or you`re a hypocrite to your religion.

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Female 1,427
@Paul1582: Catholicism is the largest denomination of Christianity. It comprises over half of all Christians, making it the MAJOR denomination.

(I`m excluding Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Churches for the sake of convenience: the percentage of members by exclusion is hardly a loss of numbers.)

The majority of Catholics abide by the decree of the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church does not agree with any methods of contraceptive.

The DO allow "Natural Family Planning," but due to the fact that many women`s menstrual cycles are prone to NOT be exactly "28" or "30" or "26" days, every single time, as well as the fact that sperm can survive anywhere from 1-7 days in the uterus, hardly makes that an "effective" form.

It`s akin to saying "Oh, we use the withdrawal method."

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Female 1,112
simim I think it would be safe to say that RC`s are the largest group of Christians, but the many smaller sects of Christianty probably outweigh them. Not too mention there are a great many progressive RC`s who are pro-prophylactics.
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Female 1,112
First of all this is definitely walking the lines of racism. Secondly, abortion rates have less to do with race and more to with poverty and social standing. This is a shock campaign that they can get away with because they couldn`t put their typical mutilated baby pictures on a billboard. drat anti-abortionists. PRO CHOICE!!!!!
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Female 299
That`s just horrible! I`m vehemently pro-life but that billboard is just plain racist. Black people are a different species now? Are they right under the bald eagle on the endangered species list?
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Male 670
[quote]Considering that Roman Catholicism is against contraception/birth control, and that Catholicism is the largest denomination of Christianity, yes, a majority of Christians ARE against birth control and contraception.[/quote]

No.

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Female 1,427
""Many Christians are against birth control/contraceptives."

Where exactly do you get your facts?"

Considering that Roman Catholicism is against contraception/birth control, and that Catholicism is the largest denomination of Christianity, yes, a majority of Christians ARE against birth control and contraception.

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Male 2,796
Patticakes: Your link represnts a sad attempt at propaganda at best, filth at worst...

This delusional paranoia is right on up there with the loons that think they are being gang stalked, or believe in MK Ultra and other Government conspiracies. It`s trash. This idea that all black people should feel some connection to slaves who lived bad lives hundreds of years ago is backwards thinking nonsense. If you go back far enough there would be few people whose culture were not born to slavery at one point.

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Female 1,427

AND, it`s impossible to prevent unwanted pregnancy by teaching "abstinence" : sex feels good, is healthy for you, and is something awesome to pass time with.

So it`s more reasonable to inform people how to have baby/STD free sex, and options for if you screw up. Hence Planned Parenthood.

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Female 1,427
Naturally speaking, though, the demographics in Atlanta show that there is a high percentage of African-American people.

Just like in Houston, we have a high percentage of Hispanics, etc. Nothing racist about it. The Atlanta billboard would attempt to target African-Americans because they`re the majority in the areas they`re looking at.

Planned Parenthood clinics are placed around lower-income areas to provide not only abortions when things go wrong, but initial information and education on how to prevent ever needing an abortion in the first place.

Poverty levels would only increase if methods of contraception, birth control, and abortion were denied.

More kids + the same amount of money = broke.

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Male 1,195
"Many Christians are against birth control/contraceptives."

Where exactly do you get your facts?

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Male 684
@sfcg... since when is 13 half of 51? 13 of the 51 eastern and western European countries allow at least one abortion on request.Many allow them under certain circumstances. Only 2 DO NOT ALL ABORTION FOR ANY REASON. Vatican city and Malta, and im not sure if Vatican city can be counted as a country.
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Female 1,427
***carry a child through pregnancy, lose the job you busted ass to find, etc.
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Female 1,427
It`s not necessarily "black people," but rather people of any race in low-income urban areas, whether African-American, Caucasian, Hispanic, Asian, etc.

***THEORY ONLY***

Low-income urban areas, generally speaking, have higher rates of prostitution: we`re in a recession, times are tough, etc. Also(usually, but not always) there are more kids with less knowledge of safe sex and safe sexual practices.

Lower income can lead to higher faith, aka "God will help us out in the end." Most religious people in America are Christian. Many Christians are against birth control/contraceptives.

Now we have a bunch of pregnant women, because it "felt good," or using birth control "isn`t right" or "I forgot to put one on my client" or "I`d get paid more without one," etc.

And abortion`s something you`ll end up turning to if you`re already too broke to pay for your own bills, and/or if you`re too young or too ill equipped to carry a c

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Female 465
See how blacks are targeted for extermination on YouTube`s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvIABoSsA...
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Male 716
The only endangered species within humans are sensible, smart people.
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Male 25,417
I was listen to the UHF radio on the way home yesterday and heard this joke!

Whats the difference between a black baby and a white baby? 20 mins in the microwave :P

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Male 4,680
"My initial point was humourous, but now you mention it, yes, I am willing to make judgements based on biological differences.
For example, as a man, I`m physically stronger than most women. That`s a judgement I`m more than happy to make. So what? "
You are my new idol.
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Male 149
Now thats an epic fail, just epic.
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Male 105
i think people need to seriously lighten up about things like this
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Male 10,440
Stupid christians... If I were an African-American and a bit dumber, I`d be offended by that.
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Female 4,028
How the f-ck does that even make any sense?
Failure, anti-abortion nuts.... failure.
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Male 15,510
I think we are all a endangered specie
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Male 4,290
[quote]Are you willing to make judgments of superiority and inferiority based on those biological differences? My point is quite clear, what is yours?[/quote]

My initial point was humourous, but now you mention it, yes, I am willing to make judgements based on biological differences.
For example, as a man, I`m physically stronger than most women. That`s a judgement I`m more than happy to make. So what?

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Male 179
I view it more as an racist billboard, though it was probably unintentional. Humans as a whole are a species. Proper wording might be along the lines of "African American children are in danger", or something. Actually, anything would have been better then what they wrote.

Although the Pro-life in me agrees with their message somewhat.

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Male 39
Hrm I think it was supposed to be "Black children`s fathers are an endangered species."

I`m not sure if its racist if its true....
http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/acr...

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Female 2,352
Wow abortion bans based on race seems incredibly drating stupid.

I think the endangered species thing is just a gimmick to piss people off.

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Male 762
"but its not implying anything offensive"

Other then black people are a species apart from other races...

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Female 1,677
It`s racist because it`s equating black children to animals. Plus who drating cares about abortions. Maybe black women have more because they`re a disadvantaged group and can`t say no to abusive douchebags or have less access to proper effective birth control etc. I`d say it`s a money issue over a racial issue. (Although the two are probably tied, but aah whatever).

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Male 4,014
Racist?

Hmmm, I actually think its a closer call than that. Fact is that statistically speaking, black women have more abortions per capita than whites. I`m decidedly pro-choice, and while anti-abortion activists piss me off, on a basic level they simply care about children, which isn`t all that deplorable.

Sure there is a racial element to it - it is a billboard SPECIFICALLY speaking to black women...but its not implying anything offensive, its simply addressing the FACT that black women have more abortions per capita.

What MIGHT be racist is the fact that in some white people`s heads, they mutter to themselves, "aren`t there already too many black children born into single mother households on welfare?" THAT is the racist aspect, but it derives from the observers, not the message.

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Female 1,190
lol yaaaaay atlanta!
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Male 795
@Musuko42

Yeah, because America has a `black` problem and Europe doesn`t? WTF do you call those riots that nearly crippled Paris? And the U.K. is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO friendly to minorities. Oh and Russia? Don`t even get me started. And yes I`ve lived in all of them.

And Abortion is still illegal in HALF the countries in Europe.

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Male 4,014
"It constantly amazes me that you`re STILL dealing with both racism AND abortion as mainstream problems over there, in 2010."

Thats why I am a Democrat.

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Female 864
If they`re running low, they can come to L.A. and have some of ours. We got lots.
hahahahahahahaha
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Male 2,850
It constantly amazes me that you`re STILL dealing with both racism AND abortion as mainstream problems over there, in 2010.
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Male 762
"I dunno about you, but I`m happy to make the claim that I`m biologically different to a woman."

Are you willing to make judgments of superiority and inferiority based on those biological differences? My point is quite clear, what is yours?

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Male 2,440
If Atlanta`s black population is decreasing, they have a damn good way of hiding it lol.
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Male 795
LMFAO.

"Anti-abortion advocates say the procedure has always been linked to race. They claim Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger wanted to eradicate minorities by putting birth control clinics in their neighborhoods, a charge Planned Parenthood denies."

Yeah. It`s all some gigantic conspiracy by the white man.

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Male 795
Seems to be plenty black kids where I live? And the last time I was in Atlanta, there were plenty of black kids there too.
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Male 4,290
[quote]Are we still trying to claim "scientifically" that minorities and women are biologically inferior and different than white people?[/quote]

I dunno about you, but I`m happy to make the claim that I`m biologically different to a woman.

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Male 1,505
If they`re running low, they can come to L.A. and have some of ours. We got lots.
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Male 5,314
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! endangered species.
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Male 44
Theres still gonna be a group of poachers that will hunt them for their medicinal properties.
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Male 527
If you`ve ever been to Atlanta you`ll know that this is not true. I`m just sayin`.
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Female 387
Are you effing kidding me?
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Male 218
racist definitely
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Male 1,929
Never heard of Africa have we? Plenty of black kids there.
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Male 762
Excuse me. ... different than white men*. (makes me look rather sexist since I brought up gender as well)
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Male 586
first I thought it was the onion, but then i saw it was real.
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Male 2,549
Thank you unmercyfuldu! :-)
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Male 762
That entire article does not mention once the fact that the billboard is referring to black people as another species, which is more damaging and offensive than just targeting a propaganda campaign at black people.

If you label another race a different species it has a huge effect on how people view other HUMAN BEINGS! Is it 1892? Are we still trying to claim "scientifically" that minorities and women are biologically inferior and different than white people?

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Male 1,931
facepalm
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Male 1,013
Uhm, anyone been to Atlanta... I don`t really think there`s a shortage...
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Male 263
You go to inner city Atlanta and actually prove the stats or STFU. Endangered Species, I think not.
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Female 355
Link: Black Children Are An Endangered Species [Rate Link] - The large anti-abortion billboard in Atlanta has been causing some controversy...
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