Obama`s 6 Major Broken Promises Analyzed

Submitted by: EricaMarie 7 years ago in
http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2010/01/20/obamas-broken-promises/

A blow-by-blow look at the promises Obama made on the campaign trail and how he broke them. Ooops. [Fancylad in 2012]
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Male 40,414
[quote]Stone: Do you think it’s fair to send people to jail who don’t buy health insurance?
Pelosi: … The legislation is very fair in this respect.[/quote]
idk, sounds pretty clear to me that she DOES support jail for non-compliance, dude. Regardless of what a Q&A video says, the new LAW does indeed say just that, so what`s your point?
There are laws to protect society as a whole (not driving 60 mph in a school zone) and laws to generate $$ for the gov`t (red light cameras). One should be supported and the other opposed.
In the case of "forced healthcare" it`s a 2 trillion dollar US gov`t takeover for 5% of the population who (allegedly) are unable to get insurance.
Here in Canada we already have that and guess what? It fails miserably! We still need seperate (and expensive) insurance for everything, and we`re taxed out the waa-zoo to boot!
This is off-topic I know, but the thread`s old now, hopef
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Male 10
BTW, By your logic, all fines imposed by the government for things ranging from public urination to seatbelt violations are all taxes. Since failure to pay these can lead to prison time, you have a lot of outrage to vent before you even get to fees that are still going through congress, so I suggest you get on that ASAP.
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Male 10
Pelosi has never said you will go to prison for not having health insurance. Pretty sure you watched this vid, didn`t listen to the actual things she said, and replaced reality with your own delusions (assisted handily by the submitter`s subtitles)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meZGdzL9j...

No, you do not go to prison for not having health insurance. If you can afford it AND choose not to have it, you pay a fee. We on the left prefer to call this the "retard fee", because that`s what you are if you choose not to have insurance even though you can afford it.

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Male 40,414
[quote]4. You are not forced to buy insurance.
This is a myth. There is a fee, you pay
it if you don`t want insurance (but can
afford it). It is a small fee. - clone822[/quote]
Every "point" you attempt is completely wrong, based on things called "facts". N Pelosi herself has said that non-buyers will go to jail. She likes & supports this.
There is a small fee for trolling, please pay any Mod, kthxbai!
BTW: A fee for something the Govt forces you to do is the same as a tax, breaking #6. Sheesh!


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Male 147
Lol, more Obama bashing from fox news what a surprise!
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Male 315
I saw `Fox` and `Obama` on the same page and immediately didn`t trust it. And I still find it odd how Obama still isn`t considered a word on my computer.
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Male 10
1. With no way to look at the chart`s

sources, you can still see that a) it

specifies non-military spending with good

reason (b) the 700 billion that was

handed to the FED at the end of Bush`s

term is inexplicably absent.

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Male 10
2. True, he gave the Fair Pay Act only 2

days. The bill, however, has been in play

since 2007 - nobody who cares about the

actual bill is in the dark as to what`s

in the bill. Same with the Credit card

act, same with SCHIP.

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Male 10

3. The health care bill has had a

completely unprecedented level of

transparency. The bill, and it`s

revisions, have been publically available

(and to the suprise of nobody, people

didn`t like that it was in legalese).

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Male 10
4. You are not forced to buy insurance.

This is a myth. There is a fee, you pay

it if you don`t want insurance (but can

afford it). It is a small fee.

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Male 10
5. He has stated repeatedly, and

correctly, that earmarks are only 2% of

the budget and that they actually serve a

vital role in government. Cutting all

earmarks is an absurd strawman.

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Male 10
6: The article considers cap and trade

and taxing healthcare corportations a

flat tax on everyone because, of course,

corporations pass on costs to the

consumer. He has kept his promise.

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Female 305
OBAMA SUCKS! i have spoken.
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Male 1,190
Obama is the last chance the us has to remain a 2nd rate power, without him being successful, the US will slide into 3rd world status
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Male 299
I just found out political comments are much more fun to read when you are no longer legally allowed to drive.
(Also, I should not be posting anything while both intoxicated and past 1 AM but I still do.)
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Male 1,297
honestly, does ANYONE actually think that the politicians will keep their promises once they get elected???

i vote for the least worst candidate. it`s the only way that makes sense.

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Male 1,365
Once IAB is baiting it`s audience instead of humoring or providing them with underground media. Really, this approach is played everywhere in the media, I come here to get away from those a s s bags.
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Male 516
So for those of you saying this is just more biased journalism (because it is Fox news), are all of these points wrong?

I`m not attacking you guys. I really want to know. And I can`t blame any of you for thinking that way, either. I`m just curious if the author did hit anything.

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Male 1,190
Faux News, lol, major fail.
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Male 206
John Stossel? Geez...why don`t you just post bits from Atlas Shrugged?
Of course, if you wanted a less horribly biased and intellectually dishonest analysis of Obama`s campaign promises, you could go here.

But then, that would ruin a wingnut`s argument on FOX.

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Female 2,509
This will have no impact. Clinton did the same thing (did not keep his campaign promises) and he was voted back in.
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Male 590
" do you really think it`s our fault that we have to decide between two people basically?" - yup! you keep voting for them and defending them for their lies and cheating and stealing!

"i find myself aligned more presently with the dems because they listen more to the less rich majority." - HAHAHAHA, that`s drating HILARIOUS considering Obama received more money from special interest groups during his campaign than ANYONE EVER... drating sheep

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Female 678
"Thank you Obama, for running this country right into the toilet.n_n"

bush already did that. Obama is running with it.

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Male 383
control of congress does not translate into control of agenda. checks and balances, eg. veto power, appointments of justice(s)
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Male 881
"can`t name one single ACTUAL crime Bush committed, can you?"

October 7, 2002: Bush says, in a speech to the nation, that Saddam Hussein was a great danger to the United States. Here is the transcript

October 1, 2002: 6 days before his speech, the CIA sent Bush the National Intelligence Estimate. That report contained a consensus of 16 federal intelligence agencies that Saddam Hussein was not an imminent threat. CIA Report

That right there is plenty of evidence for any District Attorney at any level (Federal, State, or County) to bring charges of murder against Bush as long as a single soldier from their jurisdiction died in Iraq.

That is just one case again

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Male 2,703
"The Democrats have had control of congress since Nov. 2006 (house and senate).
You`re making yourself look stupid."

implying all democrats have the same political agenda. now you`re the one who looks stupid

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Male 137
**People still KNOW that 8 years of Republican Rule f*cked this country up, and it will take Obama some time to unwind the damage they wrought.**

The Democrats have had control of congress since Nov. 2006 (house and senate).
You`re making yourself look stupid.

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Male 4,014
"what a suprise, the first `black` president flat out lied his way to getting votes. Wow this is "no suprise at all. I mean can he do the black race an less justice by being so damn stereotypical? He is such a disgrace. No charisma, no charm, no balls, no care for his own country, by far the worse president ever."

Opinions are like a$$holes. Everyone has one, and they`re are all full of crap. Worst president ever? By what measure? After a single year in office? Let me guess - you didn`t vote for him in the first place?

Do you SEE the racism in your post? As if the performance of ONE BLACK PERSON reflects on the entire race???? Did Bush not "do justice" to the "white race" by being so incompetent??? Thats the logical fallacy of hasty generalization. Amazing.

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Male 2,703
"for the people that say "stop voting for these people," do you really think it`s our fault that we have to decide between two people basically? so what do you want us to do, to stop voting all together?"

actually, yes, thats the solution. of course you`d have to get EVERYONE not to vote, not just like 1000 or 10k people, it needs to be in the millions+ since 100k+ people don`t vote anyways.

that or get people away from the 2 party system. most of america doesn`t realize conservative doesn`t necessarily mean republican and liberal/democrat.

@Sabre200000: "promises no more earmarks" "first bill has 9000 earmarks"

hmmm....let me guess, when your daddy said he`d play ball with you after work and didn`t, you consider that a promise not broken...

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Male 2,229
It`s an employee from Fox the `tabloid` news network, `Business` channel. Where they suck up to big corporations and lie to everyone else.
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Male 418
what a suprise, the first `black` president flat out lied his way to getting votes. Wow this is no suprise at all. I mean can he do the black race an less justice by being so damn stereotypical? He is such a disgrace. No charisma, no charm, no balls, no care for his own country, by far the worse president ever.
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Male 4,014
"can`t name one single ACTUAL crime Bush committed, can you?"

TORTURE. http://www.harpers.org/archive/2010/01/h...

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Male 4,014
Article - "Why the GOP should still be nervous"

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/011...

"Republicans are gleefully proclaiming the death of the Obama presidency, or at least his agenda. They claim the public has turned on him, holding him accountable for the sour economy and unemployment. However, the POLLS DON`T BACK THEM UP.


The WSJ/NBC poll found 65 percent felt Obama inherited the economic mess, while only 17 percent said his policies were “mostly responsible” for the current situation."

People still KNOW that 8 years of Republican Rule f*cked this country up, and it will take Obama some time to unwind the damage they wrought. Polls show the public recognizes this.

KEEP THE FAITH DEMS, WE ARE VERY STRONG. Republicans this week exhibited IRRATIONAL EXUBERANCE, as if the election of a pro-choice Republican means the end of the Obama pr

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Male 418
jeez, look at yourselves, liberals. i know its embarassing but you guys look even worse just spewing all this trash and totally avoiding anything said in this article. But the "blame Bush" and Bush crimes? it is so old, get over it, Bush is no longer around... and btw way as usual you always say foolish crap with no meaning such as i bet you can`t name one single ACTUAL crime Bush committed, can you? idiots. get and edumacation for once
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Male 1,149
[quote]I`d hardly consider these to be analysed points considering the majority of the words in this... statement were quotes, and then his commentary was a contrived statement vilifying whatever had been said with an example that doesn`t clearly support his point.[/quote] What are you going on about? Obama has made promises and has clearly broken at least six of them. Every thing in that article is factual. Cite some sources if your going to spew bullsh*t that there not.
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Male 1,039
Umm...I don`t care about politics...but I`m not retarded either (sorry if that word offends anyone).

I can read, and what I read doesn`t discredit or make any of those "promises"..."broken". Unless, of course, you live in imagination land or something...lol.

Did a 12 year old write that article???

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Male 881
When President Obama decided to "look forward and not backward" he failed miserably at keeping the very oath of office that he swore to uphold. If you or I committed a crime during the Bush administration, we would still be pursued and prosecuted to the full extent of the law, but Obama has given a free pass to the Bush administration. Whether or not anyone believes the Bush administration committed any crimes is irrelevant since it is not for us to determine. There is a mountain of evidence of serious criminal activity and it is Obama`s sworn duty to to make sure a thorough investigation takes place, even if an investigation leads to the CIA or Nancy Pelosi or any Democrat. The broken promises pale in comparison to this, his first, epic fail.
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Female 3,574
The guy who wrote this doesn`t know much.
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Male 1,678
"He broke that promise when he singed his first bill"

I know this is a typo, but does anyone else think that singing bills instead of signing them would be waaaaaayyyy cooler?

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Male 42
I`d hardly consider these to be analysed points considering the majority of the words in this... statement were quotes, and then his commentary was a contrived statement vilifying whatever had been said with an example that doesn`t clearly support his point.
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Female 105
"The first spending bill he signed had over 9,000 earmarks."
Teeehehehe
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Male 667
All those saying give Obama a break, compare his first yr or even first hundred days with Bush.... Dont go into Iraq afghanistan etc just look at there first year apporoval ratings and achievements one comes out miles ahead of the rest.

He hasnt done too well, he is inexperienced(Bush had daddy`s friends from senoir stint to help) But that isnt to say he cannot do better. Look at Clinton he did really badly first year to. But solved your deficit with the third way. Learn to accept criticsm of Obama the sun dont shine out of his arse like you think people hes just a human like the rest of us....

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Male 559
Here is a website that has a more objective look at the facts.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...

I don`t care who you are, if people are only focusing on the bad, you are going to look like an non-nice individual.

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Male 1,129
campaign promises are exactly what they are. promises. blah blah blah
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Female 836
Y`know, he isn`t an embarassment every time he opens his mouth and can pronounce "nuclear" correctly, so, I`m happy.
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Female 96
Thank you Obama, for running this country right into the toilet.n_n
thnxbai.
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Male 40
Is I A B really the place for politically biased reporting. I mean Bush was a retard! Lets not forget that!
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Male 299
Dammit Obama, fix it NOW!
I will be back in five minutes, and if I don`t see a utopian perfect America for all by then I WILL POST HATEFUL COMMENTS ABOUT YOU ON THE INTERNET!
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Female 678
"Yeah, probably biased as hell."

its faux...uh fox news. take what they say and look into it for yourself. its the only way to get a good view.

i never really like the two main candidates in any election so i give the third party people a chance.

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Female 84
WTF are you doing posting fox news propaganda?
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Male 2,159
OH, so this is why lots of people hate him after proudly voting him in...
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Male 2,159
Hey Fajita, what does the scouter say about his earmarks?
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Male 139
people acting as if he was some sort of savior during the campaign are of course upset. he is just a politician.

im going to wait for his term to be up before i say he has done good or bad.

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Male 58
No patticakes, go ahead and put your vote down for Palin or Gingrich. They`ll do MUCH better. LOL! And maybe we can fill congress with a bunch of Scott Browns, and all drive Hummers again and own machine guns for "hunting purposes". BWAHAHAH!!! Ooohhhh...and lets invade some more random countries because of grudges. Sounds good to me.
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Female 465
I voted for him once, but it won`t happen again.
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Male 606
Every World Leader Breaks Promises.
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Male 774
©2010 FOX News Network, LLC. All rights reserved.

lol what a worthless copywright.

Might as well read:
©2010 The bricks in your toilet, LLC. All rights reserved.

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Male 774
So it is a partner of Fox. I was wondering why I had the slow creeping feeling of panic up my spine as I was reading.

Yeah, probably biased as hell.

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Female 295
oh well, who would have thought Obama would have lied? MORONS!
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Male 7,933
"i love how there is a post and people go on loooooong runs of information to get their point acoss even thugh no one cares"

I cared about scotts point a lot more than I did about yours

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Male 295
i love how there is a post and people go on loooooong runs of information to get their point acoss even thugh no one cares
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Male 383
(cont below)

then again, i fear republicans are still going to be vindictively out to bring obama`s reputation down further and persist in stubborn consistent filibustering especially when i hear a number of the party are actually voting that way more for party lines when they actually wish to vote differently themselves.

bah. but tbh i dont beleive its obamas fault as much as our country`s political daftness en masse. and hey, no country is perfect, anyway. but i do think we have parts of a good foundation in place. and we work slowly to make it better.

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Male 383
where we as a country go wrong is in our political ideas as a citizenry. we are HUNGRY for promises, we want them, they are nectar to us at election time. but the truth is real leaders must lead by strategy and a general direction to make eventual progress for the people. promises should not be made at all, ESPECIALLY when you have a lot of enemies with their fingers in the batter looking to make you look anywhere near bad.

i do not affiliate myself with either of the two parties but i find myself aligned more presently with the dems because they listen more to the less rich majority. im glad our highest executive office position is back in dems hands.

but im also honestly a bit glad we dont have a supermajority anymore in the senate. NOT BECAUSE of all those failed failed filibusters made by reps hoping to finally drill in a statement. BUT BECAUSE i believe in checks and balances and id feel our country is better with a mixed party govt than a homogenously centric one. (cont above

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Male 181
I hate Obama as much as the next guy for his failures, but to be quite honest, no president has been perfect. So everyone should stop bashing the other party, both parties have people who screw stuff up, quit complaining and vote Nader in the next election.
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Male 40,414
[quote]I guess we should`ve got the guy who didn`t understand geography - GatoCap[/quote]

Irony alert! Irony Alert!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrsBKGpwi...
Lolz, I suppose Obama supporters will say this is `taken out of context` eh?

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Male 38
Nope ... as soon as I saw the Fox logo, I moved along.
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Male 601
Since when have any politicians kept their promises? Making hollow promises has always been prevalent in political campaigns. Frankly, I`m not surprised.
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Male 740
for the people that say "stop voting for these people," do you really think it`s our fault that we have to decide between two people basically? so what do you want us to do, to stop voting all together? go tell that to the soldier who lost their leg or to the daughter that lost their father. i`m going to vote for who would do a better job than the other. not the best, but at least i`m not sitting home angry at my government and not doing anything about it.
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Male 988
"i read the comments from the site. not only are they basically one-sided, they`re also pretty crazy."
Newcomer to the internet! Welcome!
This is what we call one of two things: (not you, them)
1. Crazy and or stupid (as you said)
2. A troll post
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Male 2,703
"I really don`t come on this site for politics."

and yet you posted how many times?

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Male 185
Earmarks?!?!
OVER 9000????!!!?
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Male 719
1) What amount of the spending was already in motion before he assumed the presidency? The $750 billion bailout, I know, and there were a few more on the same scale. At the very least, I`m happy they repaved the downtown here (Binghamton NY), and are moving on to tackle more problems. Probably a lot of the bailout money was a waste, but that was put in place during the previous administration, to be dolled out in the current one.

Overall, these six "major" issues aren`t that bad, excepting for the transparency. From what I can tell, his (real) failures have been in not being able to change Washington overnight, or not being able to control Congress (now I remember; the problem with earmarks is that only Congress controls what Congress does; the president doesn`t have much say).

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Male 719
6) Taxing cigarettes more is a bit of a stretch to claim it is meant to be a tax on the lower and middle class. Of course most smokers (as are most people) lower and middle class, but it has no effect on non-smokers.

5) From what I`ve heard, it wasn`t a ban on earmarks, but an effort to attribute them to the right representatives, and hold the representatives responsible for them. He made some progress, but not much.

4) I`m not sure of the context of this. From what the quote seems to indicate, it`s that the government is forcing everyone to have insurance, and the other quote about homelessness applies. I would guess the rest of the speech (most aren`t just one sentence) talked about how everyone would be able to choose between a public option, a private one, or none. Idk. Please fill in the gaps if you can help.

3 and 2) Yes, I would have liked more transparency. But this is one of those thing that, while I`m disappointed, I can`t say I didn`t expect it.

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Male 3,310
If you are young and not a Democrat, then you don`t have a heart. If you are old and not a Republican, then you don`t have a brain.
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Male 518
"Major"? quit throwing pointless adjectives into objective things.
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Male 7,933
"iab has become a drating joke now with this non stop political posts bashing obama without even showing any evidence that it is even humanly possible to fix everything this quickly. I guess we should`ve just got the guy who didn`t understand geography and the girl who didn`t understand english"

Its not about whether or not the economy could be fixed quickly, its about the broken promises. It has nothing to do with McCain or with Palin. Why is it so hard to accept that 6 major issues that got Obama elected have been broken

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Male 7,933
BTW bob, quit avoiding the topic. All you do is sprout random bullpoo that sounds like reaction force coming out of Keith Obermans ass.

How about actually talking about the 6 things Obama didn`t do and not try to drating slant this as if he is jesus reincarnated

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Male 7,933
" so the pigs (aka republicans) just helped corporations control future elections (which is both fascist and out of control) while the democrats were against it. Yet of course, the ignorant pigs who vote red still blame Barry for everything.
It`s amazing how politically biased this site is."

LOLIRONY!

Btw, most post here are left leaning.
Why Republicans are Scared
Republicans are more stupider
Religious RIGHT foiled by common sense
Pat Robertson blames Haiti

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Male 20
@83nu you`re a hero
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Male 20
There`s no explanation on why this site is so biased anyway, i honestly used to enjoy coming to this site but day after day just "Oooo look, obama is trying to force every male to have a sex change, then be implanted with a fetus, then forced to abort that very same fetus!"
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Male 89
Wow, I am impressed at your knowledgeable comments. I was going to say something freshman about his transvestite wife but I changed my mind.
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Male 20
iab has become a drating joke now with this non stop political posts bashing obama without even showing any evidence that it is even humanly possible to fix everything this quickly. I guess we should`ve just got the guy who didn`t understand geography and the girl who didn`t understand english
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Male 1,064
Reality: The first spending bill he signed had over 9,000 earmarks.

I couldnt help but lol

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Male 366
so the pigs (aka republicans) just helped corporations control future elections (which is both fascist and out of control) while the democrats were against it. Yet of course, the ignorant pigs who vote red still blame Barry for everything. It`s amazing how politically biased this site is. If someone tried to post anti-republican facts on the site, it wouldn`t get posted, but oohh, something that bashes Obama must be posted right away. Hope you moronic red pigs are happy. Next time get a brain
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Male 40,414
[quote]I would love it if Republicans would, you know, try and LEGISLATE with us[/quote]

goaliejerry you make some valid points. I`d just like to point out that in the House helthcare `debate` the Reps tried to offer 7-8 ammendments, all voted down by party lines. The 1 Reps proposal which was in there was removed before the vote by the (Dems) commitee. So they tried, eh? But were shut out.
Also, the Dems vote No NO! On everything when they`re in minority too, it goes with the system.
And goaliejerry you can e-mail me my dollar now, John Maccain = honest politician. Zero `earmarks` many bi-partisan bills, ran a `clean` campaign & etc. (not squeaky clean, but the cleanest I`ve seen in years, eh? and by his orders apparently)

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Male 2,579
Both parties need to stuck sucking so much balls.
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Male 334
"Senators representing 63 percent of the public vote for the bill; those representing 37 percent vote against it. The bill fails."

That`s called the Doctrine of the Equality of States in action, as provided for under the 4th Article of the Constitution. Small states have equal suffrage in the senate. They had to be given that or there would have been benefit to them joining the union.

There`s a reason why federal legislation requires that a large majority of the country approves of it. States are still semi-sovereign entities that cannot be dominated by other states without good cause

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Male 590
Typical response from a kool-aid drinking, political product buying American, GoalieJerry. I like how you started off defending a politician lying (yes LYING) and then transgressed into a partisan, anti-republican rant. And I guarantee you don`t defend George Bush`s lies (yes he lied too). "What are we supposed to do?" Gee, I don`t know... STOP VOTING FOR THESE PEOPLE?! Ask your friends and family why the drat they`re voting for people just because of the label they`re selling (republican/ democrat). These greedy-ass politicians are all the same no matter what product they are selling you. The only thing that has changed is we pay more taxes than last year and our deficit is now over 90% of our GDP in 2010. NOTHING else has changed and nothing would have changed with McCain either. It`s time for people to take theirs heads out of the sand and demand we stop electing and defending corrupt, power hungry, money hungry, CAREER politicians.
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Male 894
haha, id leave the country, but i lost my job!
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Male 73
Cba to even read it cos its not my problem really. just bare in mind he has another 3 years. If ppl really have a problem with the state of there country, why dont THEY try and do something about it rather than sitting around critisising the ppl that are at least TRYING.
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Male 1,196
i didn`t follow the link but everyone needs to know that during their campaign, politicians lie like crazy. republican, democrat, etc. they are all just liars. The only way to win is to lie so we are forced to elect liars into office.
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Male 90
Ah perhaps one day people will realize that making a campaign promise doesn`t mean you are claiming to be able to make it a reality in the first year of office.
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Male 955
foxnews lol
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Male 56
goaliejerry, if you want to go and blame everything on the Republicans, come to NJ where Democrats have all but run this state into the ground
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Male 719
"didn`t he say he would close gitmo too?"

Obama: We`re closing the prisons and detention camp, bringing detainees to US facilities to be tried for their crimes.

Senate: Wait a second. We need a better plan than that.

Obama: Okay, I`ll work something out, but I have a lot of other things to take care of too.

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Male 1,406
Eh, he broke some promises, but all in all he`s kept the same general track that he said he would follow. Now he`s not going to solve everything, he`s definitely going to make some things worse - whats important is to consider how he can improve, without simply stating current facts, but also how what he is currently doing will not pay off in the future.

Looking at something like corruption in a politician is a pointless task; more focus needs to be applied towards examining the future issues that will be caused by current and future decisions by the president. It`s all a bunch long strings twisted in a ball, and you have to examine every piece and how they intertwine. Such simplistic views of such complicated problems (e.g. REPUBLICANS SUCK) only lead to trouble.

Notice how I didn`t actually suggest anything that Obama should do; this is because I`m not very educated on the subject.

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Male 716
The scream "You Lie!!!!!!" comes to mind.
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Male 4,807
Why dont you Americans just elect an honest one next time?
Oh yea, they don`t excist.
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Male 73
Honestly it dosn`t matter what we do, when peak oil occurs we will see a 100% decrees in Govt spending.... cause its will cease to exist...

http://www.collapsemovie.com/

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Male 4,014
I would LOVE IT if Republicans would, you know, try and LEGISLATE with us, instead of simply crying and complaining that the majority doesn`t listen.

FACT - According to census data, Republican senators represent 36.5% of the population of the country, Democratic senators represent 63.5%, YET FOR SOME REASON REPUBLICANS STOP EVERYTHING. And then they SCREAM about Democrats thwarting the will of the people!

"Senators representing 63 percent of the public vote for the bill; those representing 37 percent vote against it. The bill fails."

http://jamesfallows.theatlantic.com/arch...

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Male 299
... 1:40 AM and I am reading a I-A-B political debate?
I really need to get the hell to bed.
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Male 4,014
And unlike Republicans today - who vote NO on every single thing like little babies because they can`t get their way - even blocking a defense appropriation just because, which later passed with 88 votes - sometimes politics requires COMPROMISE.
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Male 4,014
"the fact that so many people accept that politicians lie and still support and vote for them anyway"

You find the "virtuous" politician and I`ll give you $1. What are we supposed to do? Just quit caring? Politics is perception - no wonder people who are Republicans don`t like Obama, while Democrats do. "Truth" in such matters is usually in the eye of the beholder - hence all the efforts to "frame the message."

I`m just saying its not a lie to say what you would do if you had your way. Obama can`t have his way on everything, because Congress is independant.

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Male 4,014
"didn`t he say he would close gitmo too?"

Yes, and Republicans jump and scream and whine and resist every single step of the way. Again, there are promises, and then there is reality of what can be accomplished. If that shocks you, you won`t like politics - regardless of political affiliation.

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Male 4,014
And I have to just note - its not a "lie" to say what your proposed policies would be, and then adjust what you can actually produce when the congress - full of completely individual politicians, many of which are explicitly hostile - chooses to do something else. Obama cannot just dictate to Congress how to run its own show. Its called seperation of powers.

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Male 54
didn`t he say he would close gitmo too?
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Male 4,014
OMG Politicians don`t deliver on every single thing they said. STOP THE PRESSES!

Lets talk liars - lets post about Sen. Ensign (R) being investigated right now by the FBI for helping one of his staffers get a job after he quit working for the senator as a big "I`m sorry I f*cked your wife." NOW THATS THE FAMILY VALUES PARTY! Oh, hooker loving Sen. Vitter (R) is another example of Republican Purity.

You HAVE to be a little sleazy to survive in politics - but I don`t think this site is supposed to be a political gossip site.

I really don`t come on this site for politics. I`m all for taking the hits and giving them, but I come here to see people shoot bottle-rockets out of their asses, injure themselves doing obviously dumb things, pictures that may or may not be photoshopped (which leads to informed discussion about FAKE and REPOST).

I really don`t come here to discuss electoral prospects or the value of higher education with OldOllie (although thats fun too).

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Male 590
After reading through the IAB comments, I`m not even sure what`s worse now, the fact that so many people blindly support a rotten, lying politician, or the fact that so many people accept that politicians lie and still support and vote for them anyway.
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Male 590
Wait a minute, an ex-lawyer, ex-senator, politician who made a bunch of poo up to get elected?! What`s the world coming to! But seriously, the fact that some people put so much trust in a dirty, corrupt, chicago politician is pretty disturbing.
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Male 93
I`d like to see their chart at the bottom extended to earlier so we could compare stuff under FDR.
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Male 2,076
I dunno, I checked these all out. They`re real. Just because Fox reported them doesn`t mean they didn`t happen. What they haven`t reported on is that Obama has kept a number of his promises. But these major ones are ones that haven`t been kept. I`d say that two of them: the one promise that he wouldn`t force people to buy insurance, and to have C-Span televise the debates...are pretty important.
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Male 40,414
[quote]When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as President, you the public will have five days to look online - Obama[/quote]

@morrigan, how does the messenger change the message? In FACT the Dems demanded (and got) a vote on a bill NOT even finished yet, nevermind read by congress, and certianly not read by the public. Obama broke his own promise (public reading before signing) many times now. Fact! Is this a lie because Fox reported it?
@vitality, did you even READ the article before spouting off on it? A fact is a fact, Obama lies, deal with it.

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Male 601
I`m too tired of politics...
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Female 15,763
"This website is run by right wing loons. Enough with the anti- Obama sentiments. "

[email protected][email protected]

They`ll never be happy.

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Male 310
OK, we get it. This website is run by right wing loons. Enough with the anti- Obama sentiments. Maybe Americans should try supporting the governments they vote in instead of hating everybody that runs their country. Calm down.
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Female 236
What`s with all the political crap on IAB lately? This site is getting dull.
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Male 667
To the politifact link, that is biased in itself some promises will hold more weight then others. It would be easier for him to introduce loads of minor changes but give up on his major promises but it would still look like he has oiverall achieved what he planned. Remeber impartial observer in your political system before you discount what im saying
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Male 667
Fox may be biased but from a glimpse it has taken statements campaign pledges if you will and then given the evidence why it has been broken. Take the UK gaurdian, telegraph and times all have a bias but all tell the truth (except for medical and scientific which media on the whol screws up royally everytime)
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Male 2,796
Vitaliy= Win

Good job kid.

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Male 591
There is a much better analysis of Obama`s campaign promises available here:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/...

And broken promises or not, I still think Obama is roughly ten gazillion times better than McCain would have been.

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Female 15,763
And to think some of you accuse us of being pro-Obama biased...
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Male 833
like there`s ever been a president who kept their promises anyway, whats the big deal.
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Male 10,338
If he is the best candidate, go for it.
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Female 32
>sees link
Sounds like some biased Fox News BS.
>reads url
>fox is in the url
>rolls eyes
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Male 1,666
Just the fact that you were willing to waste one comment just to insult some punk kid like me shows me more than enough about you. Also, I probably won`t cancel your vote. I`ll wait for Ralph Nader to pop out of a bush somewhere outside of the Senate building, and I`ll vote for him.
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Male 10,338
In 7 months, study the candidates and vote accordingly. Don`t vote democrat because it is popular, or vice versa.

A cigarette tax is bad, because it is a tax on the middle and lower class. That was the point.

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Male 10,338
You can`t dicern my IQ from one comment, which was truthful, about you not being old enough to vote.

That shows what side of 100 YOUR IQ really is.

If this is the case, please don`t cancel out my vote this year.

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Male 1,666
"you arent even old enough to vote vitaliy. STFU"

I`m allowed to vote in 7 months. On the other hand, if IQ was a factor in the right to vote, as it probably should be, you wouldn`t be voting either.

Nice job on the personal attack, btw. Real mature and classy. ;)

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Male 10,338
you arent even old enough to vote vitaliy. STFU
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Male 1,666
Oh no, a cigarette tax!?!? Actually trying to make sure that people can get treated by doctors!!!??? COMMUNIST!!! Burn him at the stake. Thank you, Fox Media, for providing such an honest and unbiased view of everything.
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Male 492
"The Democrat says he`ll fix everything the Republicans F`ed up, The Republican says HE`LL fix everything the Democrats F`ed up. Who`s telling us the truth? Who`s lying? Someone`s lying! Who?!"
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Female 1,441
You mean Presidents break the promises they make during their campaigns sometimes?

No.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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Male 1,093
I love how when obama was running, they made him seem like a super hero. I am a democrat (kinda, really dont care), and voted 4 him, but i kno nothing was really going to happen. I was 19 too. people just have too much expection
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Male 207
Obama was lying? I am shocked.
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Female 198
Really doese this come as a shock? ...don`t think so. Politicians are alllll the same.
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did anyone really expect someone to become president without lying?
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Male 9,305
"When they aren`t kissing babies they are stealing their lollipops. "

I like this quote. XD

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Male 2,703
"`This is what happens when you vote in garbage. The American ppl should NOT be allowed to vote anymore b/c they keep voting in crooked lawyers and murderers to be their leaders. `"

yeah yeah, sounds great so far...

"`We need one leader w/ no congress; no republican`ts and no democraps, no Hooker of the House, no sec of state; none of that sh*t. Just one guy who makes all the decisions, the RIGHT decisions for HIS COUNTRY: WE THE PEOPLE. And if anyone opposes him, then go to hell better yet, go to Europe or Asia! I`m sick of this sh*t`"

oh, no nevermind....you`re crazy.

and I don`t mean that to urbanlegend, its to the guy you`re quoting...

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Male 29
urbanlegend-----> "This is what happens when you vote in garbage. The American ppl should NOT be allowed to vote anymore b/c they keep voting in crooked lawyers and murderers to be their leaders. We need one leader w/ no congress; no republican`ts and no democraps, no Hooker of the House, no sec of state; none of that sh*t. Just one guy who makes all the decisions, the RIGHT decisions for HIS COUNTRY: WE THE PEOPLE. And if anyone opposes him, then go to hell better yet, go to Europe or Asia! I`m sick of this sh*t"


They tried that in Germany a few years ago, it didn`t turn out too well. Parts of your theory of government I do agree with: no republicans, no democrats. We should have one party: Americans and non-Americans. Americans work together to better the majority, non-Americans get sent back to their non-American country in order to prevent the fall of our "empire" (I`m referencing a book that basically defines empires, which in turn is defining Amer

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Male 2,703
"Hey, fox is fair and balanced They told me so."

the last point you can`t deny, they showed a graph comparing all presidents and its not biased towards republicans. it shows everyone minus Reagan (R) and Clinton (D) majorly increased our debt. you can look any where and see Obama has drastically spent more than any other president prior.

that is partially contributed to the inflation of the dollar (caused mostly by Bush

the C-SPAN thing isn`t uncommon I mean they may talk about it here and there in the white house so it`d be weird to randomly show segments of 15-30 minutes of a 1-2 hour meeting, plus somethings just weren`t meant to be televised. most of the debating goes on in the House and Senate anyways and those get aired...

as for the bills online...whatever. unless you knew a bill was coming up, you`d never catch it in the 5 days. plus, some bills you can`t sit on for a week so the public can see it...

btw, I`m a conservative

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Male 29
For the first time in my 23 years of existence, I agree with FOX wholly. And, embarrassingly, I am one of those "Obamanoids". Well, I wasn`t Obama crazy or anything, but I really did believe him. Ironically, in the past, I vowed never to vote, ever, because of exactly what`s happening right now: we are disappointed by a President`s broken promises. I think I`ll go back to not voting, especially NOT voting for Obama next term. I will never vote republican however, so whether I wanted to vote or not, it doesn`t matter. I honestly thought Obama was even just a little different. He has turned out to be just a tad better than Bush, in terms of helping us, Americans, out. He is much better at lieing though....Bush couldn`t figure out the english language if it was written on the back of a bottle of Jack, or a bag of coke....
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Male 740
i read the comments from the site. not only are they basically one-sided, they`re also pretty crazy.

"This is what happens when you vote in garbage. The American ppl should NOT be allowed to vote anymore b/c they keep voting in crooked lawyers and murderers to be their leaders. We need one leader w/ no congress; no republican`ts and no democraps, no Hooker of the House, no sec of state; none of that sh*t. Just one guy who makes all the decisions, the RIGHT decisions for HIS COUNTRY: WE THE PEOPLE. And if anyone opposes him, then go to hell better yet, go to Europe or Asia! I`m sick of this sh*t"

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Male 174
All of this seems rather nitpicky to me....
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Male 73
I used to listen to a morning radio show in San Diego when I was in high school and college. Really funny--good jokes, good sketches. Then over time (especially after 2001), they got more and more political. They stopped joking about candidates and started discussing them. They joked occassionally, but it was rarer and less funny. I gave up on them soon after, tuning in only rarely.

If I want to know one sides U.S. political views, there are a billion and a half other cites I can look at. If you want to spout (even indirectly), please create a new site, Fancy, and leave this one doing what it does best.

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Male 17,512
If you voted for "Hope" & "Change", All you got was more of the same. All politicians lie, When they aren`t kissing babies they are stealing their lollipops.
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Male 612
OH NO A POLITICIAN LIED! What am i gonna do now?
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Male 2,796
I absolutely love the fact that a good percentage of Obamanoids are rethinking who they voted for. It always, always happens. When are people going to learn that you just can`t trust any of them?
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Male 7,378
He also said he`d end DADT. He said he`d close Guantanamo in a year (a year and a day ago). He`d end the war in Iraq. End rendition and fart rainbows that smell like cotton candy...
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Male 275
Are people forgetting that every president will break most of their promises? If most of those promises came true, I`d believe Obama is a genie.
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Male 5,314
what`s that, a politician who doesn`t do what he says he`ll do once he gets elected!?! i must be going crazy!!!
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Male 88
"WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS EARMARK LEVEL?" Hah.. good one.
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Male 88
Hey, fox is fair and balanced They told me so.
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Male 731
He`s a politician. I`d be more concerned if everything he said came true.

And for god sakes, FOX BUSINESS? I`m really getting sick of this spew on IAB. I wouldn`t be so complaintive about it except for the fact that we have a submission process that is supposed to weed crap like this out. If this and single pictures are submittable material, what the hell is considered not IAB-worthy?

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Male 23
let the comment wars begin....
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Male 100
No surprise that it`s FOX reporting this.
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Male 127
WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT HIS EARMARK LEVEL?
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Male 25,417
I guess this is a obama fail!
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Male 116
This is bullpoo.
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Male 740
a link to fox business? really?
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Female 20
Link: Obama`s 6 Major Broken Promises Analyzed [Rate Link] - A blow-by-blow look at the promises Obama made on the campaign trail and how he broke them. Ooops. [Fancylad in 2012]
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