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    LawyerScum Male 30-39
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    January 1, 2010 at 4:41 am
    Link: Amazing Speech By War Veteran - I think we should all listen to what this man has to say.
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    Elle1987 Female 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 10:36 am
    Good speech but why does Barrack Obama keep appearing in the background... its not like it was his idea...
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 11:34 am
    In before political debate...
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 11:44 am
    ... and that is why I have never even considered joining the military.

    Good speech.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 1:30 pm
    God this guys an idiot. Because obviously the banks owe it to the people to have them borrow money and not pay it back if they can`t.

    Whiny bitch

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    MauserTM Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    "Good speech but why does Barrack Obama keep appearing in the background... its not like it was his idea..."
    Hes not doing anything to stop it either, in fact, what was the first thing he did when he was nominated to the peace nobel?
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    nonamewillfi Male 13-17
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    January 1, 2010 at 1:38 pm
    wow that was amazing
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    Damarus13 Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 3:02 pm
    Prime, how about you enlist and see who is whiny. Whether you like it, believe it or not, you are prone to cultural socio-economic control and I doubt you have the moxie to make any statement about it. Personal opinion is formed by exposure, and poverty is a highly limiting, cornering position. Furthermore, a law-abiding, rule-governed temperament can but leave you trapped in the grips of laws and rules that imprison you.

    He`s hardly whining, hell, he`s making a valid statement about a useless war and about the manipulative manner of the higher-ups. Kill someone and then tell me about whiny bitches.

    Back to the topic of the video, the speech was okay, but I`d prefer it if there were no photos, no pooty-ass music, and that the speech had not been cut (it seems rather brief).

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    Damarus13 Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 3:03 pm
    Ad hominem is hardly productive to a positive agenda, usually.
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 3:56 pm
    "Prime, how about you enlist and see who is whiny"

    I`m in talks with the Marines and the Army right now.
    "Whether you like it, believe it or not, you are prone to cultural socio-economic control"

    "He`s hardly whining, hell, he`s making a valid statement about a useless war and about the manipulative manner of the higher-ups. Kill someone and then tell me about whiny bitches."

    I`m guessing you`re lower class and you have been prone to believe that the big guys are keeping all the little guys down. Its obviously all their fault that we voted for them right?


    And trust me, I want to go to war. The only reason I haven`t signed up is because its an 8 year commitment I`m not ready to make. If it was 2-3 years then count me in.

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    schnarre Male 30-39
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    January 1, 2010 at 4:02 pm
    While I don`t agree with everything he says, I applaud his willingnes to express his views rather than simply let business-as-usual carry on.
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    schnarre Male 30-39
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    January 1, 2010 at 4:08 pm
    Hey Prime, as I recall the Army has a 4-year program (I was in the recruiting office during Desert Shield). The Marines should have that as well.
    Have you been in ROTC by any chance?
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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 4:48 pm
    No not in ROTC, I don`t like the highschool version of ROTC
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    Dfaulted Male 13-17
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    January 1, 2010 at 5:02 pm
    The fact that soldiers have to be willing to do this has been in my mind for a while this is a great point and him feeling guilt is a good thing, if all the soldiers felt guilt and just stopped fighting...You never know what might come next
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    Concetra Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 5:38 pm
    Good well written speech, but come on this kind of ideology has been perpetuated for... God knows how long. It gets really old.
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    Agent0024blo Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 6:08 pm
    No matter how I disapprove of what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it. Epic Troll is Epic.
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    Damarus13 Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 7:02 pm
    @Prime

    I think the fact that you want to go to war is a little bit sad. Whatever, it is your privilege. But let it be known that you`d hardly be helping the world.

    And no, I`m not lower class. Eugh... I don`t want to argue about this, but do you really think kings want to give up their thrones?

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 7:20 pm
    "I think the fact that you want to go to war is a little bit sad. Whatever, it is your privilege. But let it be known that you`d hardly be helping the world."

    Because obviously posting on a link from IAB is helping the poor in Darfur?

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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 8:02 pm
    I`m one of those weird Ron Paul people who thinks the US needs to stop preemptive war and start minding our own business. Our involvement in the Middle East and our support of Israel only continues to f*ck us over. And hey, I`m not a liberal! Remember folks, liberals love war too and they`re no better than neocons; they both just need their leader to tell them that war is okey dokey and they just go with it. Yay a war we can`t afford! :D
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    donk Male 30-39
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    January 1, 2010 at 8:06 pm
    Good speech but explain to me why the creator of the video included Barack Obama in there? This speech was done in March 2008 at the IVAW Conscience of a Nation conference...Obama did not take office until January 2009 and he certainly has not profited from Bush and Cheney`s mistake...
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    donk Male 30-39
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    January 1, 2010 at 8:16 pm
    Primetimekin comments and immaturity makes me glad that the military is now doing psychological exams now as part of the entrance process...the thought of him with a rifle makes me nervous. No true soldier ever wants war and does not relish the thought of having to take a life...
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 8:31 pm
    "why the creator of the video included Barack Obama in there?"

    Because he went back on what he said BEFORE he was elected, saying that he`d bring the troops home, and AFTER he was elected, he sent more out. He`s continuing the war.

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    primetimekin Male 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 9:00 pm
    "No true soldier ever wants war and does not relish the thought of having to take a life..."

    You need to start hanging around more marines then.

    "Yay a war we can`t afford! :D"

    We would actually be in a deeper recession if it weren`t for the war. Debt doesn`t matter in regards to unemployment and all that other good stuff. But without that massive spending more people would have been without jobs. Stats show we`ve actually been in a downward trend since late Clinton years

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    Skreshavik Female 18-29
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    January 1, 2010 at 10:43 pm
    Sadly, war is the absolute best form of profiteering. I don`t even know why we don`t stick with the barter and trade system >.>
    Anyways, that makes me giggle. People try to rationalize that this war is necessary, or right. If every freak could understand that we`re not so different, that people just use others, then we wouldn`t have these problems in the first place =/

    You know, if the regular vanilla-citizens just said "F U" to the Taliban, Saddam, Bush, and all those other dotards, I wonder how fast we could`ve helped Africa with the starvation issue? Or even the HIV/AIDS epidemic? But no, people stroke their e-peen at American Idol, read the newspaper, blow themselves up at a ballpark, and think they did the world good! LOL!

    Uh...got carried away lol. Lazy people know how to push my buttons >.<

    Nidonemo, I bet every idiot who voted for that reason will forget about it and promptly vote for him again, assuming that nothing happens along the way to destr

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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    January 2, 2010 at 12:04 am
    Oh f*kin please. You listen to him....i`ll pass.
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    flingspoo Female 18-29
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    January 2, 2010 at 12:30 am
    bah!!
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    yellowsquare Female 18-29
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    January 2, 2010 at 4:09 am
    The man`s got a point. And I`ve often wondered myself what would happen if soldiers suddenly felt conscience and dropped their weapons, disobeyed orders, and went home.

    I don`t know how valid his "rich people send poor people to war for profit" statement is, but his "racism" point is dead on.

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    kittymonkey Female 18-29
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    January 2, 2010 at 8:08 am
    to the soldier: word

    i totally agree with everything he said.

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    BBQ Male 18-29
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    January 2, 2010 at 8:33 am
    Well, he has the right idea.
    People with even a rudimentary understanding of economics recognize the old-and-tried way out of recession by starting a war. It simply works.

    It doesn`t have to be a bad thing though. People have been treated like poo for millenia, why should 2010 be any different?
    People are not inherently good, we use religion, philosophy and bias to kill and oppress those who are different from us, with the single motive of putting ourselves in a better place, either by stealing their valuables or boosting our economy in the act of waging war.

    This has been done before and it will be done again in the future.

    Is it bad? Who am I to say.
    As long as people realize what is going on, and stop telling themselves theres a greater philosophical/religious good, that`s all we can ask for.

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    Just_A_Grunt Male 30-39
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    January 2, 2010 at 8:47 am
    Whoeee! That guy makes a great speech huh? Just one slight problem. All of those things he claims to have witnessed, he probably didn`t. He had a job in the Army that wouldn`t have had out on patrols doing any of things he describes. The group he belongs to, IVAW, is notorious for putting folks behind a mic and in front of the camera, many who never even served in Iraq to tell these whoppers which are soaked by so many people whose only contact with the military is from watching the burned out, psychotic, drug abusing Vietnam veteran portrayed in movies.

    For the story on Mr Peysner go here.
    At least unlike a lot of members of this organization he did actually go to Iraq and get an honorable discharge.

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    pdjr Male 40-49
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    January 2, 2010 at 6:28 pm
    Get out of countries you have no right to be in, stop killing innocents and stop lying to your own people as they bury your own kids
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    Y2K09 Female 18-29
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    January 2, 2010 at 8:37 pm
    Whether you support the war or not, you still have to support the guys over there. They`re doing their job in the midst of danger away from their families.
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    Jonas999 Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2010 at 11:56 am
    Notice in the first part where he talks about pulling people out of thier homes and such that he never talks about putting the bullet in them that the people we replace and fight against would have. Small details make big differences. How is it that we are supposed to find those that hide in the civilian populations? Oh and people of middle eastern derivation are caucasian jerkoff, just like you. So no racism, you`re just killing more white people. Think of them as tanned nazis and you`ll suddenly get a good happy feeling. Now what does that say about you?
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    bobhub600 Male 13-17
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    January 3, 2010 at 2:56 pm
    @Jonas999...
    Classic racist southern U.S.

    Nazis or not theres are people , lives , Human beings that you are dealing with...i highly doubt you would like to be forced, face first into the ground with a gun to you head while people (maybe even your family) are being shot all around you!

    Although i do have to give it to the american government! They did make up a good game to play to take peoples mind off of the poverty and trouble going on you your silly country!

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    Jonas999 Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2010 at 4:29 pm
    Typical reply from a television educated moron. "Oh he`s from the south, he must hate people of different color and thereby must be the absolute opposite of what the person I support believes in". I mean seriously did you just hear the crap that came out of your mouth. You essentialy just said "I must be right because I can make a baseless argument about how you are evil". WTF, did your brain leak out of your ear while you were stuffing whatever drivel your favorite band singer was pittering in the other ear filled up your tiny cranium? "You came to a different conclusion than what I did so you must be the devil I dont believe in, ala racist".
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    Jonas999 Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2010 at 4:49 pm
    You know seriously, screw it. No matter what I say, no matter how well I argue you`ll just keep going to concerts and ingesting your chosen poison, never knowing that your vice and your foolishness keeps dragging the rest of us down so that we`ll just be a bit weaker when the time comes for all out war. I love peace, I love the idea that we can all sit in our homes and go to work 8 hours a day and hope that such can continue. Simply put I do not wish to murder my fellow man. Others though want me dead simply for the nation I live in an the love of personal freedom I have that allows you to keep spewing drivel and me shouting that you are a fool without either of us getting killed. Ya know, freedom. Mind you such a thing really cannot survive constant attack, for when people are too afraid to speak out fredom dies. Of course being afraid of the leftists and getting a "RACIST" tag that will end your life or livelyhood in the wrong circumstances well just as effectivly as a bull
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    Jonas999 Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2010 at 4:54 pm
    a star of david stiched to your coat and being made to live in the ghetto because you are not what the popular government wants. I would point out that everytime you see somone mention an argument of anykind that mentions white people a anything but murdering, conspiring bastards causes you to jump to your feet and shout dogma until you hear nothing more which disturbs your taught ideals is a form of facism that is rampent. I used to think that people could simply say anything they want but I have learned through years of experience that unless you are one of the extreemists on the right or left that your ideas and voice cannot be heard. You will be shouted down by the fools on either side. Semingly if you do not have an army to help you scream down the otherside in an "attack" of thought. I thought we we`re supposed to be open minded and allow ourselves to consider the other side`s opinion, not yell and threaten until the other side gives up.
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    Jonas999 Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    Oh and one more thing. You`re not a citizen of the US? THEN drat YOU! You might have noticed that on christmas day one of those wonderful people tried to murder another 300 of us. You on the other hand, well if your nation has not already tasted a bit of the islamic truth such as Britain or other lands then simply put shut the drat up and try not to choke on the poo that is bubbling up your throat!
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    Jonas999 Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    You know seriously, screw it. No matter what I say, no matter how well I argue you`ll just keep going to concerts and ingesting your chosen poison, never knowing that your vice and your foolishness keeps dragging the rest of us down so that we`ll just be a bit weaker when the time comes for all out war. I love peace, I love the idea that we can all sit in our homes and go to work 8 hours a day and hope that such can continue. Simply put I do not wish to murder my fellow man. Others though want me dead simply for the nation I live in an the love of personal freedom I have that allows you to keep spewing drivel and me shouting that you are a fool without either of us getting killed. Ya know, freedom. Mind you such a thing really cannot survive constant attack, for when people are too afraid to speak out fredom dies. Of course being afraid of the leftists and getting a "RACIST" tag that will end your life or livelyhood in the wrong circumstances well just as effectivly as a bull
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    Jonas999 Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    So now lets go back to my first post again. I stated that this man makes a lie of omission by presenting only the facts that back up his arguments. He argues that america uses racism as a weapon. I point out that middle easterners are caucasian. Argument won. I point out that most leftists that claim that people are people and dont deserve to be treated badly would cheer to see a nazi (somone easily identified as "caucasian" but also the "bad guys") put to the same treatment he states is happening to these people. He argues that we are a bunch of murdering, terrible, evil bastards. I point out that we are not shooting those people we are taking out of thier homes etc. I would point out that the police do just the same every day here in the land of the free to keep people from commiting crimes. I argue that his argument that something terrible is being done to these people that would never be done to "us americans" So I hold that argument won.
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    Jonas999 Male 30-39
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    January 3, 2010 at 5:04 pm
    Typical reply from a television educated moron. "Oh he`s from the south, he must hate people of different color and thereby must be the absolute opposite of what the person I support believes in". I mean seriously did you just hear the crap that came out of your mouth. You essentialy just said "I must be right because I can make a baseless argument about how you are evil". WTF, did your brain leak out of your ear while you were stuffing whatever drivel your favorite band singer was pittering in the other ear filled up your tiny cranium? "You came to a different conclusion than what I did so you must be the devil I dont believe in, ala racist".
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    Damarus13 Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2010 at 7:40 pm
    Jonas, what the hell?

    Your posts hardly make any points. With the social complexity that exist within humans, creating a definition for race becomes fairly localised and isn`t as simple as stating there are four or five main races. Racism was used in WWI and WWII as well... I mean, you`ve heard the terms kraut and nazi.

    There is also a difference between you breaking a rule in your house, and breaking a rule in someone else`s house, so your argument about not killing them but throwing them out of their dwelling spots because the `men who are out to kill the freedom you love` hide amongst them.

    And yes, you`ve proven yourself as being intolerant with your condemnation of Islam and it`s "touch".

    Eugh, I want this post to be more coherent, but you haven`t really presented a point, you probably just wanted someone to disagree with you so you could call them leftist and make it a point to villify the music `they` listen to.

    And buddy, don`t be a fear-mongerer.

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    seabass101dg Male 18-29
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    January 3, 2010 at 8:56 pm
    I still think the war in the the Middle East is more of a waste of money than human rights bs.
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    gowidaflo Female 18-29
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    January 4, 2010 at 2:05 am
    Why can`t we all just get along?
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    DrkAng3LxNat Female 18-29
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    January 4, 2010 at 5:49 am
    ... wow Jonas999, really?

    how does your 1 page "argument" prove you any less of a jerkoff than what you appear to think bobhub600 is?

    I agree with bob; you wouldn`t like it either if someone dragged you out onto the ground with a gun to your head while your family is being shot around you. What exactly are you arguing? That he said that you`re from the southern U.S.?

    While it is true that most people from southern U.S. are uneducated and racist, there are many who aren`t too. That you`re taking offense to being called a southerner seems to make you the "racist" one, because you deem them so beneath you that it`s an insult to be called one.

    Seriously, you have no argument, and it`s obvious that you`re just being really damn defensive for one little not-even-an-insult.

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    DrkAng3LxNat Female 18-29
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    January 4, 2010 at 5:50 am
    on another note, i thought this video was amazing :3
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    kilroy5555 Male 30-39
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    January 4, 2010 at 1:51 pm
    This is anti-capitalist political propaganda poo.
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    Sohltofangy Male 18-29
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    January 4, 2010 at 3:19 pm
    The part with the children who have to see their parents lowered into the ground in flag draped coffins was the part that I teared up on.
    The war`s lasted 7 too many years.
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    screwzlooose Male 30-39
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    January 5, 2010 at 8:04 am

    my fellow romans, all to often an empire stands at a crossroads. that crossroads for us this time is a dilema.

    how do we continue to increase our standard of living, while at the same time, decrease the amount of work we need to get there?

    well, we can do what ALL empires have always done...

    enslave.

    trust me, it works!

    no? ya`ll dont want that? ok, we can have world equality, but ya`ll gotta help!

    now we, we are a much more sophisticated people than many other empires, so i feel that i can tell you what must be done, and instead of panic, we, being the incredibly civilized empire we are, will fall right into line.

    it really quite simple. you see, we, as a people live so far above most of the worlds standards, that allwe have to do is cut ourselves down to a mere .60 a day in expenses. then give the rest of what you make to "the world fund"

    in no time, the wealth will truly be "distrubuted"

    P.S. if you can read this, im talking to you.

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    Steveoconnor Male 18-29
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    January 9, 2010 at 10:39 pm
    www.zeitgeistmovie.com

    Everyone should take the time to see this if they havent

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    schnarre Male 30-39
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    October 23, 2010 at 2:36 pm
    A bit dated now, but still worth viewing.

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