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Since I can`t find a taker for that audition...
My father was a Marine who swore an oath to protect and defend our constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I never joined the military but the way I see it, you really don`t have to in order to stand by something like that.
My own stance on the matter is that I won`t just freely give up my guns, nor will I give up my right to own, carry and bear them.
Now, if someone were to catch all the bullets I fire at them without getting hurt or killed...then and only then. Far as I`m concerned, that person just became my new bodygu
The Constitution`s Second Amendment says nothing about any citizen of this nation having to own a gun. It`s simply a guarantee of the freedom (choice, if you will) to own any type of weapon in order to defend our gifts of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness from any threat. My neighbor next door doesn`t own guns, doesn`t like them and prefers bladed objects. Guess what? Clearly his right. I prefer blades as a backup but I have family members that refuse to own any type of weaponry. Completely their right as well.
The point is, regardless of what you might think, I don`t give up any right based on some weak argument that I should have "nothing to hide." Our recent Supreme Court Decision in the Heller case supports that. Not propaganda, just fact.
I am ignorant. I dismiss facts and am irresponsible.
I am an insufferable know-it-all.
I am going to deal with people owning guns whether I like it or not.
I believe in fairytales more than you do.
I have been brainwashed by Canada`s anti-gun propaganda (not that America equally has pro-gun propaganda, no not at all, because something you agree with is not propaganda, and something you don`t clearly is)
You know better than I do.
I am incapable of engaging in any form of discussion.
Broad generalization and melodrama won`t make me right.
My dismissal of facts is telling.
You will be a living nightmare to me if I ever infect the states with my brand of ignorance.
I dismiss facts and ridicule those that disagree with me.
I rely on bait-and-switch.
I will remain ignorant in Canada.
My name is Joe and I am Canadian.
Hey man you`re all right we should do lunch.
I`m sorry, I think you`ve been having a different conversation with somebody else. Because in the conversation (inane argument..) I`ve been in, nowhere has it been said that people should be punished for the actions of criminals. Oh, I guess you equate safety education with punishment, of course, that seems to be the issue here.
But you know what, I don`t care anymore. You`ve already decided that I`m an idiot and clearly know nothing (I`ve certainly never met any criminals!! You said so!) about anything.
"And Genocyde, you`re just as annoying and delusionally self-assured"
"I DON`T CARE WHERE CRIMINALS GET THEIR GUNS."
Your words here. So where insults fail, you rely on bait and switch.
Then, you continue to display your own ignorance by flat out saying that those who haven`t committed a crime should be punished for what criminals have done?
You`re right...projection indeed.
*I`m* the insufferable know-it-all? Really? You`re the one getting worked up over nothing. Over, yes, an inane argument on the internet. And by saying that the first time, I was including all members of the argument, so yes even myself, recognizing the ridiculousness of this. Yet you can`t let it go, and need to resort to crazy, over-the-top personal attacks.
You`re the one ridiculing those who disagree with you, so yet again, you`re just as bad as me, and by this point, you`ve proven to be worse.
I`m tired of you now.
Do yourself a favor, if you want to come to America, that`s fine by me but you`re going to deal with people owning guns whether you like it or not. If that`s not an option, stay in Canada.
Breaks down like this: For an atheist, you sure do believe in fairy tales more so than I. See, you like to believe that if the government gets to decide who owns guns and who doesn`t, that no more school killings and robberies and all that wonderful nonsense will happen. I suppose that Canada`s stringent anti-gun propaganda might have taught you that.
Truth is, you`re an insufferable know-it-all who has never encountered actual criminals. Coming from a law enforcement background, I know better than you that criminals don`t shop at the local gun shops but they tend to find those Roving Van Deals in back alleys.
But you seem to believe that anyone who disagrees with you doesn`t have a brain. Okay. What you think vs. what I know...worlds of difference there.
Have a nice day.
Haha well since both of these are in the realm of `will never happen`, sure! Agreed.
And Genocyde, you`re just as annoying and delusionally self-assured, so let`s all just move along.
Splurby, if you actually ask people why they`d dial 911, you`ll find a couple of things that are very apparent.
1. "Because the cops have guns" You`ll never hear that they have mace, tazers, batons, handcuffs or badges...it`s always guns.
2. Those that offer the aforementioned answer don`t own guns because they don`t want the responsibility. It`s a series of buck passing that continues.
Let`s just say that you`re actually successful in getting those who wish to own guns to actually jump through your hoops. You`ll find very very few of them actually will.
I was born with my right to self-defense/gun ownership. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant. I`m sure you`ll deal with it.
Well, my perspective is that while guns are capable of "harm" amd "death", they are most effective at preventing both of those things. We are all very good at taking note when someone uses a gun to harm an unarmed person, but at the same time should`nt we be giving credit to all the circumstances when a person does not get attacked because he has a firearm? Well, I suppose it would be much easier if people dialed 911 to report an instance of that, but we know that can`t happen.
But I`ll tell you what. I support your mandatory firearm license... but if we all agree and do that, our only stipulation is that gun control fanatics can never challenge us or the 2nd amendment again. Agreed?
Wins? Wins what? When did combat become a sport?
Sounds like you should try your hand at going into the military or law enforcement with that type of mindset. You`ll figure it out.
Maybe you feel as though all should jump through hoops to exercise what is a basic right that will be exercised with or without the permission of you or anyone else but it simply will not happen.
I understand that it just makes you boil over but it doesn`t change anything. Your dismissal of those facts is telling enough.
I`m liking Switzerland more and more every day. They are the only country shrinking their national debt!
Sounds like something else they`re trying to create.
Just because a guy takes a class about safety doesn`t ensure he is going to be safe. Just like in high school, when you went to chemistry class and took a test. It didn`t make you a chemist.
(Most) Anyone can take a class and pass a test. But if someone is going to go on a shooting rampage they`re going to do it no matter what class and license you try to put in their way. They`ll either get the gun from a friend or take a stupid simple class and buy the gun legally.
Thumbs up to the guy who mentioned the "may issue" licensing problems. Those are BS, either issue or don`t.
In the state of MA your require to fill out loads of paper work and take an 8 hr class to own a gun. Along with a bunch of other oppressive laws depending on the county and then the chief of police can determine what kind of license to give you depending on his mood(I don`t agree with that). In fact in Worcester you have to get 2 letters of recommendation from bussiness owners too(I also think thats stupid).This state has also put sever restrictions on pistols to meet what they call "saftey standards" some like a drop test to make sure a gun won`t go off if dropped( I agree with) and also requiring other things like a loaded indicater(I don`t agree with). In reality what they did was give S&W most of this states pistol sales because when it was enacted S&W pistols were the only few to meet requirements which other have eventually been approved.(sounds like a law maker here got his pockets lined) So yes we do have firearm requirements but not Federal it`s s
That`s what you guys thought in Vietnam. You lost.
Ever since the `strongest man` got his head blown off in the trenches
The people who kill with guns are people who don`t want their gun registered with a permit so that they don`t go to jail when they kill someone, and hunters.
People with guns usually know the VERY minute "safety tips" that come with them.1. Don`t aim at a friend2. Safety ON3. Proper load/unload procedures
There is not much to know. Trust me. If you know how to use a power drill, you can figure out a gun. The "safety" part is common sense.
Wouldn`t it be great if everybody had a gun?
I am seriously astounded how the suggestion of education about the ownership of objects that are intended to cause harm and death is seen as offensive and somehow provocative. Get some perspective people.
I never said "ooh none of you should own guns you`re all insane" douchebags. I SAID that classes on gun ownership should be mandatory to own a gun. I`m sure you all here are wonderful and all-knowing about guns, but some people are idiots. In fact many people are idiots, and while it`s great some of you are brought up with responsible and intelligent parents, many are not. So for the safety of everybody, *everybody* who owns a gun should need a license or permit/whatever else to do so. Again, how is that even arguable? "blah blah blah crap about the constitution" Whoopdee doo. Guess what? The gov. already tells you who can own a gun based on criminal records or whatever, so telling you "hey you should know some of these safety tips/whatever else before you take home a lethal weapon eh" is hardly infringing on your rights. But oh I guess you want the right to remain ignorant.
apples and oranges.
Sure, they were neutral. But *surprised face* where did all this impressionistic art come from, from 1939 to 1945?
Switzerland is a European Tax Haven, akin to Belize for you Americans, founded on collaboration with Nazi imperialism. Switzerland should NOT be held up as a shining beacon of how to govern a country, gun laws or otherwise.
At least the other countries in Europe had the cojones to pick a side, and fight for what they believed in.
By having that amendment written in to our Bill of Rights, the government was not giving us anything but guaranteeing that our "creator" (test tube, mother, deity, spark of accident) had endowed us with the rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness and that no one could alienate us from those rights.
See, when you have the right to do something, you just do it. Whether or not you actually do it is solely up to you. Example: You go out and choose where you will go or what you will do. No one else gets to have a hand in it unless you deem it necessary.
When something is a privilege, you have to ask. Example: You are licensed (i.e. you have to ask the permission of the government) to operate a motor vehicle.
Our founding fathers fought a foreign country with guns...why should we let YOU decide which of US owns anything?
2nd Amendment To The Constitution: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
First part, Militias at the time were composed of the people of the colonies and they had to take up their hunting rifles, pistols, etc against the British military.
Second Part, Can`t have a Militia without the individuals who actually own the guns.
With our National Guard (The States` Militias) Federalized, the state itself (comprised of it`s people) have the RIGHT (note: Not Privilege) to also own weaponry (i.e. arms...not specified) in order for self-defense and defense of the rights and freedoms of resp
Say whatever the hell you want about Canada. You don`t live in the U.S, so don`t go whining about how crappy we are. My 14-year-old sister is learning how to shoot with a Soft Air gun, and my mom is teaching her. What`s wrong with this? It`s not like she`s gonna go batpoo, take the real guns we have in the house, and go paint the streets crimson. She has every opportunity, as does everyone else in the family, but none of us take it. Just because you theoretically COULD do something doesn`t mean you will. You COULD take your car to the sidewalks, hit loads of people, and laugh when you need to turn on the windshield wipers. Will you? Probably not.
Here`s a story, one time when I was young (6-7) I was at the range with my dad. A guy came up to my dad and asked if I was his son. My dad replied "oh, is it bothering you that he is shooting from the storage tray (Below the shooting area)" and the guy says "no, I`m just so amazed at how safe he is"
I keep a pistol next to my bed and an AR-15 in my closet (mostly because it is my favorite) and yet no one in my house has ever been shot...weird...
No you do not need a license to get a firearm in most states. I hear that a lot and I don`t know where that idea comes from either. I think the general population equate firearms as something dangerous and extreme and so it "must" need some sort of license to get one. Vehicles are many times more technical and dangerous than firearms ever will be.
To get a gun in America, is the only requirement to not have a criminal record? Oh wait no you need a license right, so does that involve taking a few classes or something?
A huge misconception and one no doubt supported greatly by Hollywood. That would be like saying anyone can get a car and drive it well without skill. Or saying anyone can play a video game and win without skill.
With shooting with the intent to kill, defend or both there are huge factors at play like heart rate, adrenaline, focus, fear, coordination... just to name a few. There are many, many instances of people popping off all their rounds toward a human right in front of them and missing the opponent each and every time because they were not trained.
Which is what this all boils down to. The people of Switzerland are trained and that is the difference. I am all for guns, but many of our citizens are way too soft to get the necessary training to own firearms. And many times these are the same people who are pro gun control. Sad really
imyownpeople"Fact is that guns are the great disturber of the natural order. Anyone can get a gun and shoot it and kill another man without skill."Actually, there is one skill you do need, otherwise you can`t. It`s the urge to kill...actually, I take that back. Killing seems to be more of a crime of opportunity than premeditated.
Oceanbeast"people always say thatat the constitution provided the guns amendment during a "militia state" type scenario but get real a revloution could be upon us at any time, why do you feel so safe? do not left the government lull you into a false sense of security, as Americans we must be ready to defend our nation at all times."
I`m gonna hug you if I ever
This. This. This.
Well said, sir.
Everyone should have the right to own a gun, but only if they have been deemed responsible enough to do so.
The real issue is the argument ignorant people make saying that the guaranteed right to bear arms can`t come with any responsibility on behalf of the people whatsoever because the Constitution doesn`t specifically say the government needs to be sure a person purchasing a gun is responsible.
people always say thatat the constitution provided the guns amendment during a "militia state" type scenario but get real a revloution could be upon us at any time, why do you feel so safe? do not left the government lull you into a false sense of security, as Americans we must be ready to defend our nation at all times.
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Thank God for fact-immune liberals...
It does work. Crime is lowest in states and cities with the fewest restrictions on gun ownership. Multiple-victim mass shootings ALWAYS occur in "gun-free zones."
It`s all been documented in John Lott`s book, More Guns, Less Crime.
Where do liberals get vaccinated to make them immune to facts?
You really sure about that?
Ya rednecks legally owning guns and shooting them is the source of all crime sure............
Also, this is why Germany never touched Switzerland.
And these people in the video are just weapon freaks. I am in obligation to train shooting once a year but the rest of the time my rifle is unused.