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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 6:49 am
    Link: Obviously, al-Qaeda Didn`t Act Alone - Still too soon?
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 7:08 am
    Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle!
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 7:13 am
    Yes.
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    Valex_Shade Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 7:14 am
    meepmaker`s comment made my day haha. Christmas Story rocks
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    chelseycake Female 13-17
    275 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 7:15 am
    mhmm
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    The-Sentinel Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 7:16 am
    if it`s too soon after 8 years, it will always be too soon.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 22, 2009 at 7:31 am
    WTH ?
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    Grumpdock Male 13-17
    317 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 7:37 am
    Tasteless.
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    iKit5 Female 13-17
    355 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 7:39 am
    I thought it was funny. But then I felt bad for laughing.
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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 7:56 am
    It`s nNever too soon for a tasteless joke. Anyone want to hear some from my Brittany Murphy collection?
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    Chesk Female 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 7:56 am
    It`s never too soon!


    kidding, don`t eat me alive.

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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 8:05 am
    its always too soon. its one of the countries greatest tragedies. its like making jokes to the irish about car bombs, england about the subway attacks, or japan about hiroshima/nagasaki.
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    johncrb Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 8:05 am
    always too soon, very bad taste
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    buxco215 Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 8:09 am
    >>It`s never too soon for a tasteless joke. Anyone want to hear some from my Brittany Murphy collection?<<

    OOH OOH!! I DO!! :D

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    KyleD2303 Male 18-29
    55 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 8:12 am
    "its like making jokes to the irish about car bombs, england about the subway attacks, or japan about hiroshima/nagasaki."

    Done, done and done.

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    Antonin Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 8:17 am
    The way I see it is:

    -The people can wait a few years or decades until they feel like it`s "okay" to poke fun at 9/11

    -The people can not be hypocrites and just poke fun anyway.

    Either way, people are horrible.

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    Joshyboy989 Male 13-17
    169 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 8:23 am
    "its always too soon. its one of the countries greatest tragedies. its like making jokes to the irish about car bombs, england about the subway attacks, or japan about hiroshima/nagasaki."

    To be honest, in england we`ve always been quite light hearted about the July 7th bombings, no one died and we got a new NEXT! Everybody wins!

    (also, can I point out that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were America`s fault?)

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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    December 22, 2009 at 8:32 am
    Not too soon - too WEAK.
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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 8:40 am
    @Joshyboy989, over 50 people died on 7/7, and around 700 were injured, so nobody wins really. And I don`t know anyone who is light hearted about it, so I don`t know where you heard that.

    Besides, the humour in these sorts of jokes aren`t laughing at the actual event, there`s nothing funny about 9/11. It`s just the nature of the jokes, they make you uncomfortable and think "oooh, can you really say that?". You either find them funny or you don`t, I personally quite like dark humour, but each to their own.

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    Grizzzzzzzzz Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Joshyboy989
    Male, 13-17, Europe
    82 Posts Tuesday, December 22, 2009 8:23:02 AM
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    "To be honest, in england we`ve always been quite light hearted about the July 7th bombings, no one died and we got a new NEXT! Everybody wins!"


    ?

    56 people died and over 700 were injured

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    nettech98 Male 50-59
    1043 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 8:49 am
    No Josh, you can`t point out that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were America`s FAULT. Japan`s fault, Germany`s fault, ok....

    Our war with Japan was clearly as a response to Pearl Harbor and all other aggression by them. They just picked the wrong country to mess with.

    Time to stop playing on the interwebs and get back to school...

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    ToxicPunk Male 13-17
    320 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 8:55 am
    yeah we were pretty light hearted about the subway attacks they even had a joke about it

    Whats the difference between smarties and terrorists?
    Smarties don`t blow up in the tube

    yeah :P

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    DrVenkman Male 18-29
    287 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 8:55 am
    It`s never too soon. There`s no such thing as too soon.
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    cman7721 Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 8:56 am
    to nettech:
    agreement. america was a sleeping giant. Japan didn`t know what it was getting itself into.
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    ToxicPunk Male 13-17
    320 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 8:57 am
    oh and Grizzzzzzzzz,
    he took that joke from a comedian and they no nothing
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    MagicPaul Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 9:04 am
    "its always too soon. its one of the countries greatest tragedies. its like making jokes to the irish about car bombs, england about the subway attacks, or japan about hiroshima/nagasaki."

    You can make jokes about car bombs to the irish, but we`ll shoot your drating knees off.

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    ohlax Male 13-17
    818 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 9:09 am
    Yeah Joshy those acts might have been commited by America but had they not happened the U.S. and the rest of those fighting in the Pacific theater would have been there a lot longer. The japanese fighters fought to the death, there was no surrender for them. So no you can not point out that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were America`s fault. Good try though
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    Fwoggie2 Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 9:09 am
    I got chatting to some Canadians a week after 7/7 in the Maple Leaf bar in Covent Garden whilst I waited for my (running late) friend. "How long you guys been in the UK?" "About 5 hours." "Wow. And how are you finding it so far?" "Well, we seriously thought about cancelling." "Why?" "Because of the bombing." "Any particular bombing?" "You mean you`ve had more than one attack?" "You Canadians not heard of the IRA? There`s been terrorism in the UK since before I was born!"
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    nonamewillfi Male 13-17
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    December 22, 2009 at 9:09 am
    i didnt lol, but i kinda laughed then thought of what that guy was thinking and if he thought it would really work.
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    maxell Male 18-29
    285 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 9:13 am
    nettech98:

    you just keep living in your shell believing your country can never be blamed for anything, because you`re all far superior then the rest of the world right.
    of course you agree you`re American.

    and am I standardizing Americans right now? yes I am, sure I know quite a few Americans who are respectable kind people, but when the majority of you are blatant unintelligent non-nice individuals, and someone like you gives off the vibe so clearly, I`m perfectly allowed to voice my opinion.

    but alas, remember I`m just a weak Canadian who lives in an igloo, and will never be smart enough to achieve anything great like the Americans can.

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    Aretsuku-kun Male 13-17
    309 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 9:29 am
    "if it`s too soon after 8 years, it will always be too soon."

    Oh get over it, Many countries have had far worse tragedies. Mostly caused by the US anyway. Hiroshima and Nagasaki ring a bell? They got over it.

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    ElDavo Male 18-29
    2149 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 9:41 am
    Have a sense of humor about these things. Nobody says you have to laugh at a tragedy, but at least enjoy the coincidence of where this guy is aiming. Don`t be a bitch.
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    mee2 Male 13-17
    20 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 9:44 am
    @Aretsuku-kun: Yeah, but the Japanese don`t joke around with it. I`m not trying to be uptight about it, but my uncle died in the crashes. So... yeah.
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    bipolargod Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 9:50 am
    Aretsuku-kun
    Male, 13-17, Canada
    300 Posts Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:29:58 AM
    "if it`s too soon after 8 years, it will always be too soon."
    Oh get over it, Many countries have had far worse tragedies. Mostly caused by the US anyway. Hiroshima and Nagasaki ring a bell? They got over it.

    ya cuz we all know japan didnt attack first right

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    tedgp Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 9:52 am
    yay for armchair politicians who know little to nothing of the real world, apart from what fox news tells them.
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    SalokinX Male 18-29
    51 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 9:55 am
    who cares if a few hundred people died... i didnt even know any of them...

    in fact, i couldnt care less for the people who died. the picture was good.

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    nettech98 Male 50-59
    1043 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 9:56 am
    Wow Maxell. You`ve got some pent up anger there, eh? Did an American kill your puppy?

    Look back to my post. All I did was say that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not America`s FAULT. I didn`t go into right/wrong, justified/unjustified, moral/immoral, etc.

    And now the majority of Americans are "blatant unintelligent non-nice individuals"? This means a lot coming from a 13 year old. I`d ask you what you base that on, but Americans don`t general like to get into battles (of wits) with unarmed persons...

    Like I said to Josh - Time to stop playing on the interwebs and get back to school...

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    domisgood Male 18-29
    4868 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 10:05 am
    CONSPIRACIES!!1! they`re everywhere!
    Obama isn`t even black, Michael Jackons isn`t dead - in fact he was never born. Tiger Woods doesnt even have a penis. The royal family are actually aliens from the moon - and Joe Namath DID make a deal with the devil for SB3

    ...i`m done

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    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 10:09 am
    "So no you can not point out that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were America`s fault."

    America was responsible for those attacks and remains the only country to have used atomic weapons in anger.

    Did they shorten the war - probably - but why did the bombs have to be dropped on densely populated cities first off - levelling an island or two might have got the message home. Also.. troops sign up, civilians don`t.

    p.s. I`m well aware that us Brits have a few oustanding examples of bombing civilians - Dresden etc.

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    coolbananas Female 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 10:15 am
    hehehe
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    FIRST_poster Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 10:28 am
    I guess 8 years isn`t really "too soon"
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    Nebbie Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 10:34 am
    I just think it`s funny how many people in the "13-17" range are jumping in this debate. You don`t have too much say, I mean, you were 4-8 when it happened... I have a hard time believing my nephew would remember if something like this happened today. My nephew is 5.
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    Grumpdock Male 13-17
    317 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 10:36 am
    I`ve taken a second look at the picture and actually find it amausing - a well dressed elderly man firing a rifle into the sky on a New York bridge...

    Besides the rifle isn`t even pointed at the towers.

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 10:37 am
    @MattPrince

    We bombed cities because just destroying an army dosen`t take away a countries capacity to just rebuild it. Also if you take a look at what Japan did to Chinese civilians and POWs at the time you wouldn`t have much compassion for what had to be done.

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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 10:47 am
    We bombed cities because just destroying an army dosen`t take away a countries capacity to just rebuild it.

    This line of reasoning could equally apply to the people who carried out 9/11 - they attacked your cities because you could just rebuild your armies. It`s a terrible argument. Non-combatants are never fair game.

    Also if you take a look at what Japan did to Chinese civilians and POWs at the time you wouldn`t have much compassion for what had to be done.

    Again, terrorists could equally use this logic to justify their attacks based on your treatment of Gitmo prisoners.

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    Grumpdock Male 13-17
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    December 22, 2009 at 10:48 am
    Nebbie
    Male, 18-29, Midwest US
    302 Posts Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:34:14 AM
    I just think it`s funny how many people in the "13-17" range are jumping in this debate. You don`t have too much say, I mean, you were 4-8 when it happened... I have a hard time believing my nephew would remember if something like this happened today. My nephew is 5.

    How do we not have much to say? What difference is it if my memory of the attacks is more hazy than yours?

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    revdrdark Male 40-49
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    December 22, 2009 at 11:00 am
    Tasteless and unnecessary
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    Mindless2164 Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 11:11 am
    @almightybob & McGovern1981

    PWND!

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 11:13 am
    @almightybob1

    The problem with that is the WTC had no industrial capacity and didn`t affect U.S. armies really the pentagon attack made more sense there. As for gitmo prisoners thats not too accurate they`re alive Japan worked a good portion of their prisoners to death and it`s army was encouraged in China to kill civilians even babies.

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    dance4life Female 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 11:21 am
    dumb.
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    xtreme_dude Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 11:27 am
    SH*t! I knew it!
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 11:32 am
    its true that japan brought about our aggression, but those bombs were more devistating than most really believed they would be. and aretsuku-kun, japan hasnt gotten over it. they have learned to live with it, but that does not mean they have gotten over it. i dare you to go to japan and start yelling out jokes related to those attacks. have you ever spoken with an older japanese man or woman who was alive when those bombs landed. its still a sore subject sixty years later.

    also, there is no comparrison to what the japanese did to POW`s and what our soldiers have done to the people they have captured. the japanese during WW2 were much more vile and disturbing when it came to their actions. I dont think this was a reason to drop the A-bombs, which might be why nobody has since.

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 11:34 am
    Besides that it was estimated that casualties would be 1 million Americans and half a million British in the first invasion alone. Who knows how many Japanese that would have also been killed.
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    Resop Male 18-29
    60 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 12:05 pm
    `but alas, remember I`m just a weak Canadian who lives in an igloo, and will never be smart enough to achieve anything great like the Americans can.`

    Maxell, as long as you know your place.

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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 12:14 pm
    lol resop lol
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 12:20 pm
    Very dumb
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    ElSombrero Male 13-17
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    December 22, 2009 at 12:21 pm
    I find your pity arguments amusing.
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    KyleD2303 Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 12:35 pm
    Of course it`s funny. Since when has any subject ever been taboo on the internet?

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 12:50 pm
    @ElSombrero

    Errrrr do you mean petty?

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    Aretsuku-kun Male 13-17
    309 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    I love how people claim that because I am young my point is invalid. Not every teenager out there is an uneducated moron.
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    Aretsuku-kun Male 13-17
    309 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    "Maxell, as long as you know your place."

    Having fun with that telephone we invented?

  62. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 1:17 pm
    "Of course it`s funny. Since when has any subject ever been taboo on the internet?"

    Erm. No.

    See, in order for it to be funny, it should have something about it that makes people laugh.

    This, is only taboo. Some people like to giggle when something is taboo because it makes them feel like they`re doing something naughty.

    It doesn`t make it funny however.

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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 1:28 pm
    Also, while we`re on the topic, McGovern:

    Your government has so far backed:
    The expulsion of 3.5 million refugees from their homeland.
    The equivalent of 3 9/11s since 2000.
    The destruction of 25`000 homes.
    The the inclusion of an article in the constitution that ONLY Christians and never Muslims be allowed to hold the prime political position in Lebanon, despite Muslims being a 70% Majority.
    Permanent troop placements propping up several dictatorships across the middle east.
    Support of heinous tyrants such as Saddam when it was profitable.

    Japan, in no way shape or form, is more guilty of offenses against your nation, let alone warranting of the equivalent of 1000 9/11s.

    Don`t do the justification afterwards. Do it properly. "What would warrant 1000 9/11s being visited upon a nation".

    If Japan didn`t do that: It`s word eating time.
    If Japan did: I`m fairly sure you cannot claim America did not do (at least) 1000th of that.

  64. Profile photo of cobrakiller
    cobrakiller Male 18-29
    7470 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 1:31 pm
    aretsuku-kun, its funny that consider yourself educated when you dont seem to know that Bell was born in the UK and was not Canadian.
  65. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 1:34 pm
    Or, to make it simpler:

    Write a list of everything America has done to the Middle East prior to 9/11.

    Then write a list of everything Japan did to the USA before Hiroshima/Nagasaki.

    Is the Is the Japan-> USA list 1000 times larger than the USA -> ME?

    Then it might be time to reconsider your perspective on the matter when it comes to "when is killing thousands of people justifiable".

  66. Profile photo of cobrakiller
    cobrakiller Male 18-29
    7470 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 1:38 pm
    Baalthazaq, you know, the US is unfairly judged. we do what we can, but people dont seem to realize that much of the time it isnt what we want to do. When the UN decides something needs to be done who do they call on to do it. then when we get in the middle of a scuffle one side hates us. then if anybody on the other side gets hurt, or if we overstep our bounds, they hate us too.

    then even though we were asked to help, the rest of the world hates us for getting involved. but these same people who hat us during this time will ask us for our help when they are in trouble. the world is full of hypocrites and we always seem to be hated no matter what we do. so, from the bottom of my heart, if you hate america, and have no reason to personally hate us, [email protected] YOU! and, thank you for your time.

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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    December 22, 2009 at 1:39 pm
    Ha ha! This picture is hilarious, totally not too so- *swamped with furious responses*
  68. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 1:43 pm
    Cobra:
    You`ll find, very often, that the people we associate with inventions are not always their true inventors.

    For example could be called the true inventor of the telephone.

    People always try to hijack inventions for their own people, usually by picking their favourite "first inventor" and sticking to it.

    The Italians prefer Meucci, Canadians claim the Telephone (invented in Canada) is Canadian, the British claim it is British, as the inventor was. Neither is false.

    As neither is false, either could be correct, as either is correct, the 13 year old is perfectly legitimate in his claims.

  69. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 1:49 pm
    Cobra, every single statement I just made against the US has been in OPPOSITION to the UN, with almost universally every other country in it voting the other way.

    Whereas the UN has 62 resolutions against Israel killing civilians at a rate 6 times higher than all the terrorists combined, taking new land up to 40 years after "the end of the war", and building settlements on land it deemed it needed to take as a "buffer zone", the US has done nothing but support it in the face of the international community.

    Personally, I know of at least 12 of my friend who have had their homes destroyed, many who can never return to homes they built with their own hands, and so on and so forth.

    Now if you`re quite done failing on every metric you SET FOR YOURSELF. May I put forward, from everyone who DOES have a personal reason to hate you (and that includes threatening my country with battleships, without reason), F*** YOU TOO.

  70. Profile photo of Sacklunch
    Sacklunch Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 1:52 pm
    "When the UN decides something needs to be done who do they call on to do it. then when we get in the middle of a scuffle one side hates us."

    Cobra, to be fair most of the time it`s us deciding there is a problem and the UN then backs us. We decide there is a problem because somebody told us to start another fight so the war machine can continue running and profits can be reaped.

    Everyone needs to realize that it is not US vs. Middle East vs. whoever. It`s rich vs. poor and we all need to be on the same side when the time comes.

  71. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 1:58 pm
    In fact you can even see that I can quite happily demonstrate where the problems lay with the American invasion of Iraq for starters within the first weeks of the invasion.

    I`m not throwing out random accusations here.
    Everything everyone said about America and the Iraq war has been true.

    The most bullpoo response of course being the one about hindsight. I say bullpoo, because even as a kid barely out of the 13-17 age range, I predicted every problem the US faced from then till 8 years on.

    the problems were obvious. They were always obvious. they will always be obvious. It doesn`t take hindsight. It is universally idiotic, bad politics, bad ethics, bad planning, and bad strategy that gets America where it is.

    Not how people talk about it, as you so self servingly replied.

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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 2:00 pm
    @Baalthazaq

    "The expulsion of 3.5 million refugees from their homeland." - Would you happen to be talking about Israel?

    "The equivalent of 3 9/11s since 2000." - Do you mean deaths from the above incident?

    "The destruction of 25`000 homes." - where?

    "If Japan did: I`m fairly sure you cannot claim America did not do (at least) 1000th of that. " - Yes we did because we were involved in a world war which I seem to recall Japan brought us into also before that they killed about 15-20 million chinese people directly being ordered to kill civilians. Don`t belive that they have a statue of a nazi in china because he tried to stop them because he thought what they were doing was wrong A NAZI THOUGHT THEY WERE SICK.

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    Gorodetsky Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 2:00 pm
    How old is this picture....? You can have a gun in New York? haha...
  74. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 2:17 pm
    So close McGovern.

    I was talking about the 3.5 million Palestinian refugees who currently occupy most of the Middle East and who have no right of return.

    Apparently, the USA only supports a right of return after 2000 years (hey it`s still their "true home"), not 2 (hey, you left, drat you).

    I`m talking about the 25`000 Palestinian homes Israel demolished to make way for Israeli settlements. (Remember, the slogan was "A land without people, for a people without land", skipping of course that the land may have had some "brownies" living there)

    The deaths are exclusively civilian deaths caused by the occupation. (Not combatants, which have been factored out). (Note here: 50% the *Israeli government* blamed on Ariel Sharon, who they then elected to power, and who was then called a "man of Peace" by bush, who couldn`t understand why the Palestinians were unwilling to negotiate with him).

  75. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 2:36 pm
    Let me give you a touch of insight into how the world works right now.

    When Israel invaded Lebanon in 2006, the USA was the number one supporter. When asked to vote on whether it was the right thing to do, the Senate voted unanimously in favour, congress voted near unanimously (I believe only 2 votes were opposed).

    This gives the US roughly 99.4% approval rating of the conflict.

    The runner up? Israel. Whose government voted 60% approval, and 40% who claim it was basically a mismanaged disaster, and saw the subsequent removal and replacement of many of the top people involved.

    The UN were generally against it.

    While we`re on the line of hypocrisy, the conflict revolved around the holding of an (1) Israeli by Hezbollah, at a time when Israel holds over 7000.

    One of which, I might add, was a friend of mine, who was arrested for having a firework on Eid. He was 16 at the time. He was held for 2 years.

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    akabane Male 18-29
    1093 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 3:21 pm
    Baalthazaq, you are a hero to a palestinian like me. Jaza Allahu Khair Akh!

    -Akabane

  77. Profile photo of Fatum
    Fatum Male 30-39
    66 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 3:21 pm
    Oh my, an other arab whining about Israel, the USA and the west. All glorious and however clever articulate reasoning you dish out taken into account, you miss something: Nobody cares about how miss treated Palestine is, nobody cares about how evil Israel and the US are.

    Why? Because the truth is defined by the empowered, history is written by the winners.

    We here in the west, the evil infidels, are living in prosperity at the cost of the rest of the world. And it happens that arabs and muslims are pretty high on the loser list.

    poo HAPPENS!

    You guys had your shot at global domination, now it is our time. Then India, China and whoever, just no arabs and muslims.

  78. Profile photo of Aretsuku-kun
    Aretsuku-kun Male 13-17
    309 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 3:26 pm
    "aretsuku-kun, its funny that consider yourself educated when you dont seem to know that Bell was born in the UK and was not Canadian."

    The Telephone is under a Canadian patent therefore it is a Canadian invention.

  79. Profile photo of Fatum
    Fatum Male 30-39
    66 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 3:29 pm
    I actually wonder why somebody would invest so much time and effort into a mediocre attempt to convince IAB folks of something political in nature?

    Must be one of those "I have no life" specimens.

    It is such a completely futile thing to do.

  80. Profile photo of EvilDictator
    EvilDictator Male 13-17
    99 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 3:33 pm
    baalthasaq, drat you, israel supporters, drat you, anyone who feels the need to kee the hatred alive, to feed the anger to continue the pain, drat you. how can you not see how biased an blind you are? how can you not tell that what your saying is slanted, eveyone is at fault, everyone, but to harbor the anger to feel and fuel the hatred is what will kill our planet, its what will kill our people, our very soul. an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind, sadly i fear we already are, lets stop before we destroy morality, goodness and te idea of peace, as naieve as i may sound, it is in love that the strenght of humanity is found, not in its brutality and ingnorace.
  81. Profile photo of Fatum
    Fatum Male 30-39
    66 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 3:49 pm
    @Aretsuku-kun

    Nope. US patent 174465 by Alexander Graham Bell (March 7, 1876) is the quint essential first telephone patent. And as the US might have given away, it is an american patent.

    You show me the canadian patent and I will rest the case.

  82. Profile photo of viczko
    viczko Male 13-17
    906 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 3:52 pm
    okay baalthazaq... we get it... youre the poo... we`re ignorant
  83. Profile photo of cobrakiller
    cobrakiller Male 18-29
    7470 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 4:07 pm
    aretsuku, even in canada Bell is considered the inventor of the Telephone. Bell was Scottish. therefore, the canadians see a Scot as the inventor of the telephone, not a canadian.

    @evildictator, well stated

    @baalthazaq, i dont trust facts spouted at me over the internet, so can you site your sources. this time, make it somewhere other than wiki or your own site please and thank you.

  84. Profile photo of cobrakiller
    cobrakiller Male 18-29
    7470 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 4:11 pm
    this shows that the canadian patent came after the american patent by a year. both credit Bell. So tell me again how the Telephone is a Canadian invention.
  85. Profile photo of Fatum
    Fatum Male 30-39
    66 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 4:24 pm
    @Cobrakiller

    Thank you for this link, very interesting read.

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    paddyt07 Male 18-29
    1067 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 4:27 pm
    I say it every time the "too soon?" question is posed...
    Not soon enough.
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    Discobiscuit Male 18-29
    542 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 4:37 pm
    I love how I click on this link to find a debate on the invention of the telephone in the comments.

    Only IAB.

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    britt566 Female 18-29
    2290 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 4:40 pm
    Fa la la la laa la la la laa.
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    BunnyNaku Female 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 6:17 pm
    :O!
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    whipsmart Female 18-29
    665 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 7:51 pm
    How is this funny?
  91. Profile photo of unbanned
    unbanned Male 13-17
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    December 22, 2009 at 8:21 pm
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAAHAHAfunny!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Iroj Female 18-29
    960 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 9:44 pm
    Ahahah thats awesome (the pic and the joke).

    This is to all the people butt-hurt and crying over said pic/joke:

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    xxPinkxx Female 18-29
    3829 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 11:01 pm
    meh
  94. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 11:26 pm
    Cobra:
    1) My own site links further to an "article" I wrote on infidels in the early stages of the war. It includes links to sources.

    It demonstrates that I was saying this poo to you idiots long before it could be called hindsight.

    2) Facts are:
    The senate voted unanimously, congress voted 390-5 (not 390 to 2 as I had earlier stated).

    This is at a time when even the Israeli defense minister, minister for foreign affairs, 9 Israeli human rights groups, 500 Rabbis in the US, the UN, Ban ki moon, Amnesty international, and the Red cross all came down against Olmert for his decision to go to war and keep fighting.

    Further link

  95. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 11:30 pm
    Cobrakiller further:
    I already explained why it is a Canadian invention (or an Italian invention if you really want, or a Scottish invention, and now you can add American to the list).

    However there`s nothing that makes an item belong to a country unless it is developed by the state, which it wasn`t.

    It is perfectly reasonable to call it Canadian (where it was invented), American (where it was patented), Italian (If you agree Meucci was the inventor), Scottish (If you decide it`s the nationality of the inventor).

    However, none of these have any sole claim to being correct. No matter how loud you squeal.

  96. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 11:36 pm
    Evil... Dictator...

    Evil Dictator.

    The EVIL DICTATOR is telling me about his faith in humanity and the strength of peace and whatnot....

    Skipping that for a moment: Are you suggesting that the best course of action would be to maintain the status quo? A status quo which allowed a thousand people to die with bloodshed, against the entirety of the international community, simply because they have an influential friend who will stand beside them (blindly as you put it) when even it`s own people, government, and supporters will not?

    If they didn`t think America would:
    1) Back them,
    2) Veto every allegation that ever comes their way.

    They would not commit atrocity after atrocity. I know you want to sit in the corner and cry that people are arguing over the internet cos it makes you sad, but what makes me sad right now is 1000 dead bodies in the streets.

    So drat you. Harder.

  97. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 11:43 pm
    And finally: Fatum.

    "All glorious and however clever articulate reasoning you dish out taken into account, you miss something: Nobody cares about how miss treated Palestine is".

    1) Thanks.
    2) Not nobody.

    "Why? Because the truth is defined by the empowered, history is written by the winners."

    So, basically, you`re suggesting 9/11 is warranted? This is exactly the philosophy of Al Qaeda. That it would be better if the entire world rose up and took the US down a peg because they`re non-nice individuals.

    Are you suggesting they`re basically right and you`d support this? No your mouth only opens to say the things you say when it is advantageous to your side of the argument.

    The problem is, it isn`t. Your argument is a stillborn, it makes no points in favor of you that it doesn`t make stronger for the opposing viewpoint.

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    earthshone Male 18-29
    1688 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 11:48 pm
    ooooh, goodie... more *blah, blah, blah, blah* posts.
  99. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 11:57 pm
    Finally, as for me "whining about how life is unfair".

    I am simply presenting the facts after someone else was discussing why someone else deserved an atrocity visited upon them.

    I merely pointed out that by that reasoning so do they.

    I then made about 10 more posts because they found what I was saying "unbelievable" (I agree, it is pretty fecking unbelievable) and asked for sources and elaborations.

    It is alot easier than you think to justify genocide if you use the logic of many IABers. I am merely calling that logic into question and pointing out that they don`t want to die being gunned down by gunships or to watch their friends and family melt in a rain of nuclear fire as they`ve basically claimed so many others "deserve" for the actions of their government.

  100. Profile photo of Baalthazaq
    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 11:58 pm
    Meanwhile, Earthstone is contributing as best he can. Look at the little guy go! Well done earthy! Who`s the big contributor? Who the big contributor?

    You are! Yes you are! Smooochie woochie woochie.

    So cute!

  101. Profile photo of Okasen
    Okasen Female 13-17
    523 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 12:30 am
    Baalthazaq needs to be elected president of the universe.

    Or like, Jesus or something.

    If only because when he types, he actually cites his sources and uses grammar.

    That said, I found this funny, and if you have a problem with it... well drat you. I`m still going to laugh at it, and everything like it. Just try and stop me >;D

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    Bo_SHhaYeB Male 18-29
    276 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 12:33 am
    Baalthazaq

    dude, you don`t know how to comment.

    this is IAB not ur political science class

  103. Profile photo of Fatum
    Fatum Male 30-39
    66 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 12:44 am
    Listen you Mohammed, may he rot forever, caricature: Domination, exploitation and superiority always has to face the anger and the desire for change by the suppressed and the weak.

    It is not about my point. There is no "my" point. This is about a clash of civilization. About the western empire that slowly comes to its natural end and new forced that desire to raise and inherit. But the end is not that near yet for the west.

    9/11 didn`t happen because the plotter and executers were so amazing and elite. It was made possible because some people in charge, on the western side, failed, became over confident and opened our flanks. So you towel heads reacted and brought the point home. Bravo.

    Look what you get for it now. Hundreds of thousands dead brothers. Call them martyrs? Go ahead, we call them dead Hajis. Infidels closer on your doorsteps than ever. Palestine further from a future than ever.

    Whoever will be the heir to the western empire, it will not be a muslim Nev

  104. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 1:03 am
    Sadly there is no weapon that can weed out *just* the insane

    VVV

  105. Profile photo of Calderis
    Calderis Male 18-29
    326 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 1:39 am
    Wow Fatum. It`s people like you that make me ashamed to say I`m American.
  106. Profile photo of Fatum
    Fatum Male 30-39
    66 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 1:41 am
    I am not american, so please do not use me for your issues with your country. Thank you.
  107. Profile photo of Calderis
    Calderis Male 18-29
    326 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 1:48 am
    Fine let me clarify... The oppinions and attitude you express are the type that tend to make people assume I`m an non-nice individual when I visit other countries. You may not be an american, but your overbearing demeanor and way of sharing those opinions fit into the stereotype that has almost got my ass kicked for the place I live multiple times.

    Clear enough? I Love the place I live, I just hate a lot of the people in it. You remind me of them. Thanks for not being here.

  108. Profile photo of Fatum
    Fatum Male 30-39
    66 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 2:01 am
    So, what you are saying is: If I would not articulate the words I do, if I would not call the way things work by name, the world would turn into a "no human left behind", "we are all compassionate" place?

    The very fact that you have access and can afford electricity to power your PC, afford and have available a roof over your head, you being well fed and educated and living in an environment where you safely can speak your mind; is based on the fact that billions can not.

    You Sir, are a hypocrite.

  109. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 3:58 am
    "The very fact that you have access and can afford electricity to power your PC, afford and have available a roof over your head, you being well fed and educated and living in an environment where you safely can speak your mind; is based on the fact that billions can not."

    I fail to see the logic in this statement. If the billions of those who cannot afford etc. didn`t exist, would that stop us from being able to afford electricity or speak our mind - NO.

    Maybe you should seperate out your two twisted arguments here, and shine some light on them:
    - "if we don`t keep the poor masses at bay we won`t have so much good stuff" and
    - "if we don`t oppress everyone else we won`t be able to speak our minds"

    You`re twisting stuff, dude, but hey don`t let me stop you, on with the fear and loathing...

  110. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 4:05 am
    Actually - I like the good stuff.

    Nuke away....

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    tp1212 Male 13-17
    299 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 7:23 am
    @Okasen,
    Agreed.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 7:48 am
    @Baalthazaq

    I never said I thought Japanese civilian deserved to die.What I was trying to show was if put in the sitiuation we were put in then I would support the decision we made because the alternative would have been even worse. It also kinda sounds like your holding the U.S. responsible for the actions of Israel we are two different countries and have no control over what their military does you know.

  113. Profile photo of Mikeado
    Mikeado Male 18-29
    2159 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 8:32 am
    Hmm, shall we spark a big pointless argument with a picture of a man looking through a gun at the WTC?

    Yes, but first we need a rubbish "Too soon?" caption to get `em angry enough to really rip someone a new one, even though it was EIGHT YEARS AGO!!!!

  114. Profile photo of cobrakiller
    cobrakiller Male 18-29
    7470 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 8:33 am
    @Baalthazaq, I agree with the US support of Israel. The land belonged to the Jews first. After the brittish left and the feuding began betweent the Jews and Muslims, it was the Muslims who began the violence.

    We cannot necessarily blame Israel for the many unnecessary civiliam losses on the palestinian side of the scuffle. It is hard to determine the soldiers when compared to people just walking around. Anybody they see could be a hostile, including children, which has to be one of the hardest things to pull yourself to do. To point your weapon at a child who may or may not have been sent to kill you, and pull the trigger.

    On the other side of this, i cant see why there are so many civilian casualties on the Israeli side. The soldiers where uniforms and are easily determinable from the general population. To harm the civilians in Israel, you have to try. But, this is nothing new for the muslim extremists in the middle east. They always seem to attack the innocent.

  115. Profile photo of cobrakiller
    cobrakiller Male 18-29
    7470 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 8:35 am
    That was my last post on this subject. So go ahead and post your rebuttle if you want to, but it will fall on nothingness, as nobody will be listening to you anymore. I grow tired of these arguments, so have a nice day, and peace be with you on this day and all days that follow.
  116. Profile photo of amaru420
    amaru420 Male 18-29
    76 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 9:02 am
    cobrakiller- you dont knwo ur history. the jews lost israel way be4 islam even came into existance. the babylonians destoryed it. then the egyptians. its our problem they want their land back? its in the torah, if the jews have an israel, it will start the end of days. . ITS IN THE dratING TORAH. thats the jewsish book,their book.

    i dont support the us help to israel becuz they r killing muslims. i wouldnt agree neither if muslims were killing israelis but thats not the case. they r killing muslims. how do i no? becuz palestinians dont have the support of the strongest country on earth. the jews do. and they want to eradicate muslims. this is a neo-crusade thats y we r bombing muslim countries.

    and, there is no reason jews and muslims cannot live in peace, they have done it be4. do u no jews and muslims used to drop off thier kids at eachothers homes while they made religious pilgramages?

  117. Profile photo of amaru420
    amaru420 Male 18-29
    76 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 9:06 am
    fatum 9/11 was an inside job. all evidence points to it. i hope u die. theres os muhc hate in u th eonly way to remedy it is to cut off ur drating nuts and let u bleed to death. if u had nuts. you lil bitch
  118. Profile photo of lgm432
    lgm432 Male 13-17
    172 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 9:17 am
    Yes, I-A-B, still too soon.
    It takes between 23.9 and 29.3 yrs for something tragic to become funny.*

    *South Park Refrence to AIDS vs. Aides episode

  119. Profile photo of last_ninja
    last_ninja Male 18-29
    610 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 9:36 am
    may we ban amaru? all he does is tell everyone that they`re wrong, call them names and say they should die.
  120. Profile photo of tp1212
    tp1212 Male 13-17
    299 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 9:39 am
    amaru420,
    I`m not sure if I read that correctly but,
    Did you just say the jews are currently attempting to pull a genocide on Muslims?
  121. Profile photo of 420Chellie
    420Chellie Female 18-29
    127 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 10:22 am
    Is this pic from a movie or something? lol it really looks like it is to me. Or is the guy an actor or something? I`m still trying to see what happened in the pic though. Basically the captioner is trying to say this man helped to shoot the twin towers?
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    Tacos4Brkfst Male 18-29
    620 posts
    December 23, 2009 at 12:04 pm
    Makes me think of Hunter S. Thompson
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    shivinski Male 18-29
    191 posts
    December 24, 2009 at 3:40 am
    its funny cuz hes old
  124. Profile photo of tjanator
    tjanator Male 13-17
    145 posts
    December 24, 2009 at 7:21 am
    tp1212,
    I think he meant the US is killing muslims FOR the Israeli. I think.
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    premierwondr Male 18-29
    975 posts
    December 24, 2009 at 2:09 pm
    the israeli conflict culd have been avoided if the surrounding Arab nations allowed the Palestinians to move to their nations during the early 1900s and the British actually let the Palestinians know what was going on. Hitler drated sh*t up too (1939 White Paper would have guaranteed an Arab state). From what I learned in my class on Zionism this year the Jordanians, Lebanese, and Syrians don`t like the Palestinians much better than the Israelis do and don`t want them in their countries...Pan-Arabism is a joke btw
  126. Profile photo of ChrisRlive
    ChrisRlive Male 18-29
    260 posts
    December 25, 2009 at 7:32 am
    hahahaha
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    acanatane Female 18-29
    276 posts
    December 25, 2009 at 10:19 am
    rofl

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