Have You Ever Disected a Frog at School? [Pic]

Submitted by: fancylad 7 years ago in Science

Most teens kids do in science class eventually--this illustration shows what"s inside. So is school dissection cruel?
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Female 28
I have dissected a pig twice, a frog, a worm, and a starfish...
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Male 7
We dissected cats before, that was a lot of fun. I always thought frogs were kinda boring. Did that one 3 times.
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Male 153
To answer the questions:
No. No cruelty involved.
Yes. Frog, Pig fetus, Cat, Owl pellet, Iguana, Chimpanzee, and a couple of people.
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Male 153
As someone who has cut into human flesh for the sake of education, I can say that an understanding (or at least an acknowledgement) of cells, organs, and organ systems is vital for everyone to possess and can best be provided by hands-on experience; Regardless of whether those systems belong to a frog or to a human, the lesson is that the student learns about the overall function achieved by the functions of the subunits in the body, while gaining solid problem solving, memorization, and maturity skills in the process.
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Female 631
naah we never got to disect a frog.
just a cow heart
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Male 949
"So is school dissection cruel?"

No.

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Female 778
heresrobo - i did the owl pellet thing. we got introuble for trying to save some of the bones we found in a plastic baggie.
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Female 778
i refused that assignment.
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Male 499
Killed humanely means that you kill them fast and painless, instead of a slow and painfull death.

What would you prefer?

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Male 431
as long as animals are "killed humanely?" so you mean like.. murdered ethically? im pretty sure that doesnt work.
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Female 276
@joshboy989: what the hell u talking about your "lucky to be british, hooray for the RSPCA"?? if your implying it means no dissection then 1/ Im british and have done numerous dissections in biology, at many levels, 2/ the rspca doesnt have anything to do with the use of animal corpses, it focuses on cruelty - ie. ALIVE animals. as long as the dissection specimans were killed humanly theyd have nothing to do with it.

dissection is awesome!!

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Female 10
yall are stupid.
dissecting frogs was fun.
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Male 19
How come when someone says dissection is cruel, a bunch of idiots start saying they`re PETA members? That doesn`t make sense. Then again, IAB is full of users with minimal brain power, so I shouldn`t be surprised.
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Female 17
I agree with obhwfgirl, dissections shouldn`t be taken out of school, but I think the students SHOULD get an alternative if they find dissections morally wrong. I refused to do this when I was in high school and got in a lot of trouble for it.
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Female 104
I remember dissecting a frog. It`s actually very interesting.
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Male 1,718
The famous interwebz asploding frog
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Female 582
At some point in time the greatest doctors in this country did animal dissections in high school. For some, it was those dissections that introduced them to something they love. Maybe without them, they would`ve never even become doctors.

I`m sure most of you can remember one thing that inspired you, clicked with you, introduced you into something you loved.

So drat PETA for wanting to take that away. It`s like saying we shouldn`t read Dickens `cause it`s offensive to non-English speakers. dratin` morons.

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Female 876
Heresrobo - I did!!!!
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Male 1,195
The frog looks like it was dissected with a fire cracker...
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Female 83
Did anyone ever dissect owl pellets?
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Female 107
Almightybob1: you are my hero. Those who say no one uses the information gathered by dissection? I`m going to graduate school in the fall for wildlife parasitology.. Yes, I will be dissecting lots of animals for scientific purposes, no it`s not cruel, and yes, I`m glad I had to dissect things in high school.
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Male 30
The funny thing bout PETA they kill more animals nationally than all animal shelters. The animals they "liberate" they don`t find homes for so they use animal euthanasia. http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
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Male 17,512
We had to disect fetal pigs, with red rubber in their veins and blue rubber in their arteries. The worst thing about it was the smell of the formaldehyde.
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Female 50
i had to dissect a cat.
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Female 151
all the PETA freaks just shut up, your organization kills animals too. dissection is a hands-on way to learn about the body of whatever you are dissecting, and is fun for some people. those of you that suggest that dissection teaches it`s ok for you to kill for curiosity, if you are dissecting an animal, you likely aren`t 5. some of those kids kill random animals for curiosity anyways, and the kids who grow up to be serial killers were likely going down that road anyways.
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Male 4,290
madduck: many things wrong with that post.

Saying it doesn`t matter whether it`s a mouse or a man is plain stupid. There`s no point pretending that a mouse`s life is of equal value to a human`s, because that`s just not the case. As a social species, humans have evolved to help each other, and value the lives of each other.
If you really value human life on a par with other animal life, maybe you should start some cannibalism, help reduce the overpopulation of humans. After all, shouldn`t matter if it`s mouse or man, right?

Basically, it`s a stupid plan. You`re saying we should only teach people things they`re definitely going to need to know. That`s not education, that`s training.
To avoid teaching people unneccessary information, we`d need to know every child`s future profession before they started school.

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Male 4,290
[quote]I don`t think dissection is in any way a necessary learning tool any more. You can just use computers to watch a video of a dissection, for example. Just unnecessary.[/quote]

I`ve been watching professional footballers curl free kicks for years, and I still can`t do it. Some things you can`t learn just by watching someone else do them.

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Male 2,159
I think they should only include disection in higher ed biology, when you might actually want/ need to know that stuff, otherwise it`s quite a waste, although one could argue that they only kill commoner species.

I cut through a kidney once, it was like cutting jelly with scissors. What was more worrying was when they wheeled out 2 pairs of lungs, one from a pig and one - I think - from a dead smoker with a donor card. Eeugh! Also I`ve seen a biology student dissect an eye. And a liver. He enjoyed it, and it was of course very gory.

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Female 1,963
I don`t think dissection is in any way a necessary learning tool any more. You can just use computers to watch a video of a dissection, for example. Just unnecessary.
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Male 1,445
We dissected a pig, a frog, an earthworm and a flatworm in my biology class. The one that got the most girly screams (not necessarily from girls) was the pig.

Of course that was back in the stone age. :-P

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Female 8,006
Ok- the frog/ whatever is dead, and dissection is a useful learning tool for THOSE WHO NEED IT. But the frogs got killed deliberately in order for them to be dissected. High school students do not need to know how to dissect an animal, so what you are actually teaching is that it is okay to kill for no good reason other than curiousity. It should not matter whether it is a mouse or a man, we should not teach kids to kill anything unless there is a sound reason. Medical students have a good reason, so do vets etc, not 16yr old kids who are never going to have use for this knowledge.
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Female 535
we never did a frog. we did a sheep`s heart, and a bull`s eyeball.
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Male 1,093
i remember doing this in 8th grade. It sucked.
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Male 169
I consider myself lucky to be British. Hooray for the RSPCA!
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Female 236
I have dissected a piglet when I was like 13. HORRIBLE smell. And without gloves too, Hylian4Hire :P And a fish without gloves. Damn, we are crazy in Denmark
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Female 109
haha collage! what a caca sniffer
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Female 23
Yum.
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Male 97
Last year, we had to disect a bobcat at the collage, so a frog is nothing. Smelled horrible too.
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Female 1,386
My Highschool traumatized me. To this day I find myself wondering from time to time, where the hell they found grashoppers that were so freakin huge. The ones we cut up were larger than your average rat... what ...the... heck???
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Female 328
I had to dissect a frog in middle school, but I had to do it WITHOUT gloves. The teacher ran out of gloves and I couldn`t back out without risking an F. Good thing I`m not easily disgusted.
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Male 28
@ SammyCyanide @

You are the most awesometastic person I know.

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Female 53
Om nom nom.
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Male 1,815
BOOM FROGSHOT
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Male 9,305
I never liked the thought of taking apart the body of an animal...back in middle school I saw it as disrespectful. Then I rationalized that if it was to educate and learn, then the use of the dead was not disrespectful.

I still cannot stand taxidermy though.

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Male 1,685
lol, SILVERTHREAD
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Female 178
We had to dissect baby pigs. Horrible smell, and i had lunch right afterward. Needless to say during that time i never ate.
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Female 427
I kept getting mad with all that yellow junk (which I didn`t know what it was, and my teacher was unsure) and then I started pulling out eggs O.o I`m an animal lover, but I figure it`s already dead. Lost cause. I put one in a plastic bag with some formaldehyde and named it Loopy. Kept her in a jar ^.^
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Male 274
we dont dissect animals in highschool here in brazil
but i think thats a good learning tool
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Male 34
I remember dissecting a worm a few years ago. The stench was horrible. Made me want to gag.
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Male 367
Never had to do that in highschool, but I did "dissect" deer when we went hunting. Not fun.
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Female 208
When I was in high school, they used cats. Thankfully, I never took the class....^^;
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Male 16
we dissect a frog, also fetal pigs, a starfish, a crab, rats and a shark. it was pretty cool. oh and a cow eyeball a few years before those.
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Female 519
Dissection is always fun. I`ve dissected a frog (twice), a squid, worm, crawfish, and a fetal pig. It`s amazing how the bigger animals, like the fetal pig, had organs very similar to humans. That was all done in biology. I have friends in Anatomy who have dissected cats, dogs, etc.

Dissection isn`t cruel though...I mean it`s dead. :|

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Female 444
My teacher was vegetarian and refused to let us cut or harm any living creatures. "There are good pictures of it anyway, so we don`t have to open them"
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Female 53
Pretty cool.

We got to dissect baby pigs and goat organs when I was in highschool a few years ago.

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Male 250
in my high school biology, and A&P class, we got to take 2 field trips to see a HUMAN dissection... well, it was a preserved body who signed off on this to happen after he died. actually, we didn`t see the actual dissection, but we hot to get up close and see the professor demonstrate certain things... and this was in 11`th and 10th grade... BEAT THAT IN HIGHSCHOOL!
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Male 250
green_batman: formaldehyde is rarely used anymore for that reason. a substitute is in much wider use these days.
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Male 250
in my high school biology, and A&P class, we got to take 2 field trips to see a HUMAN dissection... well, it was a preserved body who signed off on this to happen after he died. actually, we didn`t see the actual dissection, but we hot to get up close and see the professor demonstrate certain things... and this was in 11`th and 10th grade... BEAT THAT IN HIGHSCHOOL!
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Male 1,765
I`ve dissected human beings.
And screw the hippies who say no to dissection. If it weren`t for dissection we would know nothing about anatomy. Screw them.
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Female 276
@sweetrebelnc: ye ive cut up pooloads of stuff too in bio. its way better way to learnt than reading a book!
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Male 219
I helped dissect a cadaver in my degree level physiology course, If it`s accepted practise to cut up humans in the name of education then surely frogs are fair game. I did hear stories of the med students stealing the male cadaver`s genitalia and leaving it in a nightclub toilet but I`m sure that`s urban legend.
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Female 140
I dissected a mouse once. It smelled horrible.. well, like the entrails of a dead mouse actually.
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Female 846
we disected all kinds of things in bio. star fish, crawdads, grasshoppers, fetal pigs, cats, fish, frogs, the works.


it was one of the coolest things ive ever done.


kids should keep disecting, its cool.

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Female 299
hah, its deflated. ive cut up a pigs eye and heart.
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Male 194
I dissected a pig, as well. I named mine Sir Bacon Esquire the 3rd.
:D
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Male 575
Some parts look like noodles.

I like noodles.

And boobies.

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Female 414
Everything was pink...
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Male 336
never dissected a frog in school, we dissected a pig fetus instead. i named mine Wilbur.
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Female 728
odc: The problem is that frogs for dissection are stored in formaldehyde, which is toxic. Typical meat preservation techniques would ruin the frog for dissection. So we`re back to the cruelest possibility, of having live frogs for dissection.
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Male 749
I had to dissect a heart in Biology a few days ago. Before we started though I made it into a hand puppet using the arteries and veins.

p.s. Hearts look weird on the inside.

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Male 394
I don`t dissect in class, I do the crappy online versions.
I`m also a vegetarian, and I think if you believe dissection is cruel, then you should be a vegetarian. Because if not, that`s kinda hypocritical.
I`m not pushing it on anyone, I`m just sayin`.
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Female 121
Not cruel. Just gross.
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Female 318
I think students should then have to eat said frogs after disection, and the teachers should too. The United States is one of the few countries that hasn`t developed the taste for frog. It`s a real shame.
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Female 285
Our class has to dissect a frog this year.

It`ll be cool, but I`ll most likely feel bad later.

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Male 3,755
I hope that anybody who thinks this is cruel has never eaten meat in their life.
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Male 1,931
If the frog is still alive during dissection, then yes it is cruel. If the frog is killed inhumanely, then yes it is cruel. But if the frog is killed in a humane matter, and it lived a long life, then I see no problem.
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Female 152
From what I understand, the whole frog dissection debate started earlier, when the frog was dissected LIVE but with its spine paralysed so it couldn`t more. Nowadays that is not done.

Also, to people who think this is still cruel, I must ask a question. Do you eat meat?

If keeping animals in close confinement or killing animals bothers you AND you eat meat, it is time for you to sit down and re-evaluate.

(Personally I am a vegetarian but find biology dissections fascinating. Go figure.)

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Female 525
"I don`t think it`s cruel, the kill the animals humanely and they only use animals that there is already an over abundance of."
So because it`s an over abundance, it`s okay? Humans are way overpopulated but no one is killing us in mass quantities for dissection.
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Male 1,204
um why would this be cruel? really? it`s already dead. i mean sure maybe the frogs had feelings... but really? you think frogs are more important than the other animals they happen to kill inhumanely?
gosh people at least get your priorities straight
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Male 420
i only dissected a rat, as you can see. and it was damn cool
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Male 95
Kinda hard to be cruel to something that`s already dead u_u
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Female 492
We had to dissect frogs in middle school using safety scissors. I cried. :-P
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Male 30
Heart, ovary, small intestine/ large intestine/ stomach, liver/ gallbladder. It`s red and blue because they inject them with red and blue latex to preserve the vascular and repository system or else it will turn into goop. Whats really gross is finding dead ones that aren`t preserved with formaldehyde and cutting that open.
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Female 138
omg im disecting comw eye monday :(
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Female 838
I didn`t dissect frogs we dissected fetal pigs
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Male 7,817
ive disected a lot of things, but actually never a frog.
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Female 779
I don`t think it`s cruel, the kill the animals humanely and they only use animals that there is already an over abundance of.

I`ve dissected worms, frogs, cows eyes, fetal pigs, pregnant rats... :/

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Male 189
Its so colourful.
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Male 975
o and btw its not even close to cruel--very stupid question fancy and gratz on a failed attempt at an intelligent argument
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Male 975
how i dissected a squid for bio last year and i had so much fun i dissected 3 more
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Female 236
we dissected squids. i almost threw up.
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Female 315
Link spelling fail. : / The last time I had to dissect a frog, one of my friends cut off the legs then dropped them in offering buckets at church.
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Male 150
Let`s see, in middleschool dissected a worm and a frog. Highschool dissected a rat in biology, cat in anatomy, sheep`s heart, sheep`s eye, beetles (god those were disgusting), our finger (blood tests for a month). So far in college for my pre-med it has been another frog, another worm, a starfish, a chicken liver, and all the bacteria you could want in micro. Being I haven`t taken anatomy yet, the only thing I have left to dissect is a human cadaver. So to answer the question, no I don`t think it is cruel. A lot of the structures in a frog, sheep eye, sheep heart, muscle structure in a cat are similar to that of a human, and a were very important to my education.
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Male 58
Not cruel at all, and that`s coming from a vegetarian...and also a biologist. It`s in the name of science. I think every kid should be exposed to a circulatory system so they have a better understanding of how their body works. True, a frog is not like a human...and that`s why in college you dissect pig fetuses! That`s a hundred times as cool!
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Male 3,431
I got dibs on the blue green thing..
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Male 2,591
glad i was expelled before any dissecting of animals took place. nice spelling fail btw
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Female 72
well thats super duper off-putting... here i am waiting for my man to come over for sum fun and now all i feel like doing is upchucking...
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Male 742
OMNOMNOMNOMNOMNOM

I`ve done it with cow eyes.
Tis` fun.

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Male 3,755
"I was eating :("

I guess you can`t eat and read captions at the same time.

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Female 126
That looks pretty cool.. I wish we could dissect frogs, but we`re going straight to pigs
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Female 8
we used fetal pigs at my high school. just the smell was enough to enduce vomiting.
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Female 1,578
I was eating :(
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Female 9,562
Dissecting frogs was really fun despite the fact it smelled badly.
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Male 3,619
we were supposed to get do cow eyes... but we never got to it =/
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Male 25,417
Mmmmm. Frog!
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Male 430
We used cats in high school I named mine Senor Cha-Che Whiskers.
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Female 839
readme08
Male, 13-17, Southern US
39 Posts Saturday, December 5, 2009 11:02:06 AM
Frogs, rats, and fetus pigs are for pussies.
Ever dissected a full grown pregnant female cat, mother****ers

And here, ladies and gents, is a future serial killer
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Female 876
Corydoras,

Didn`t you just post that? It did post, you know. No need to spam the board with your thoughts. :)

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Male 32
disecting animals is drating awsome
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Female 876
Oh, I guess I should add a cadaver in there, too. That was probably one of the more... Uh... Relevant ones. XD
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Male 1,078
@readme: I`m pretty sure doing such things are the signs of a budding serial killer.

Is school dissection cruel? Not really, these frogs are raised for the deed. I think alternative options should be raised though... (i actually remember what everything in the picture is from my 8th grade dissection so clearly it did something)

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Male 416
I dunno where the hell you heard this or what school you went to, but all dissections hsve dead animal`s. I took a beginner course on Human anatomy

Pity you didn`t take a beginner`s course in English, they you`d know when not to use a bloody apostrophe! Hah, Grammar nazis rule!

Re. the frog, great picture!

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Female 876
I never did a frog. We did pork eyes, fetal pigs, beef hearts, rats (one was pregnant - that was super cool), and cats. Oh, and squids.

I woulda` enjoyed frogs, though.

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Male 642
why would you dissect a frog? what does that teach you?.. when you get a surgery.. please don`t ask your doctor what knowledge he has.. he might answer "yeah.. I once dissected a frog in high school"... you`ll sleep well
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Male 404
Virtual dissection ftw.
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Male 72
How can it be cruel if the frog is dead? What would actually be cruel is if we dissected frogs while they were still alive.

And I agree with Almightybob1, education is a good reason.

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Male 730
I agree with Opie and they still use frogs here, I wouldn`t want to do a rat.
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Female 4,447
I never saw the problem with dissecting an already dead, well preserved frog. And since most of the other girls in my science class were all "omgewwwww!" over it, I got a chance to show them up. Pansies!
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Male 2,551
We didn`t get to disect anything.
Some classes got to disect cows hearts, but that was it. D:
I wanted to disect stuff.
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Male 37
Frogs, rats, and fetus pigs are for pussies.

Ever dissected a full grown pregnant female cat, mother****ers

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Female 1,283
We used pig heads in CO
When I was a freshman, the Juniors used cats =(
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Male 553
"GothicQueen: I never had to do it in school. Personally I do find it cruel and think the frogs should at least be dead before dissection. I mean at any other time this would be considered animal cruelty but because it`s just a frog and in the name of "science" it`s magically okay to open up a living animal. If other people want to do it then whatever but I want no part in it."

I dunno where the hell you heard this or what school you went to, but all dissections hsve dead animal`s. I took a beginner course on Human anatomy since my school had academy`s and Human anatomy was under Medical academy (i don`t remember the exact name). Anyways, we dissected a lot and they were all dead and been dead.

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Male 2,486
The frogs are already dead, so the debate should be about is it okay to kill frogs for scientific knowledge? I say yes. We didn`t do all this evolving for no reason. LOOK AT MAH THUMBS
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Female 15,763
I loved dissecting the frog in middle school... it was all preserved so we didn`t have to kill it and there wasn`t any blood or anything.
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Female 1,890
they dont use frogs anymore

they use rats btw
just thought we would let ya know
here in texas anyways....

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Male 4,290
[quote]other than to learn that it is okay to kill frogs for no good reason[/quote]

1) the pupils do not kill the frogs, they`re already dead
2) education is an excellent reason

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Male 10,440
Nah. Its a great way for kids to learn biology.
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Female 8,006
No, unnecessary, especially in school. Dissecting is a skill that medical students and vets need. They can practice on cadavers but I really don`t think that the average pupil can benefit in any way, other than to learn that it is okay to kill frogs for no good reason. That line of thinking is not very helpful to society at large.
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Male 4,290
Is it cruel to cut up a dead frog? No. How could it be? You can`t be cruel to an inanimate thing. In the same way that it isn`t cruel to break apart a rock, it isn`t cruel to cut up an already dead animal.
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Male 3,755
Oh yeah, "dissected" is misspelled.

If we didn`t perform dissections and experiments on animals a large part of our medical advancements would be erased. The kid who loved dissected frogs in high school may either grow up to be a serial killer, or may make an amazing medical breakthrough in his life.

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Male 1,406
Never did that. We dissected a cow eye, once. Interesting to see the different parts, though gross. Also, dissection isn`t bad, it`s vivisection that`s cruel.
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Male 3,755
We got to dissect a fetal pig in high school. You had to break to break the jaw to get into its throat. Man, it was hard to break too. Just had to keep pulling and pulling until you heard it snap.
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Male 33
random picture ftw?

or discussion thread?

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Female 62
Also, GothicQueen;

When you dissect an animal, they are generally dead, with their blood removed. The reek of formaldehyde is part of the fun of the experience :)

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Male 695
Nope, but we cut open a pig heart. Very bloody stuff.
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Female 62
Wow.. cool photo
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Female 428
I, thankfully, never had to dissect anything more than an owl pellet at school. Which was actually pretty fun ^_^
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Male 4,807
We did`nt have floating frogs back in my school days.
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Male 907
No. They were born and bred for a scientific death.
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Male 291
we dissected rats
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Female 34
yeah...not looking forward to that.
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Male 3,425
We were never allowed to disect frogs in school. Apparantly, the nerves in the spinal cords can cause cancer or something, I`m not entirely sure how true that is, I think our school just didn`t want to spend the money...

As for the moral issue, I think dissections are perfectly acceptable, I don`t want to come across as shallow, but they`re only frogs.

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Male 4,680
I think it`s unnecessary. After all we do have virtual frogs, all ready to dissect again and again!
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Female 4,376
I never had to do it in school. Personally I do find it cruel and think the frogs should at least be dead before dissection. I mean at any other time this would be considered animal cruelty but because it`s just a frog and in the name of "science" it`s magically okay to open up a living animal. If other people want to do it then whatever but I want no part in it.
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Male 86
yay, philosophical discussion on a website filled with angsty teens and self-important idiots
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Male 807
so why did we need this on I-A-B?
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Male 20,830
Link: Have You Ever Disected a Frog at School? [Pic] [Rate Link] - Most teens kids do in science class eventually--this illustration shows what`s inside. So is school dissection cruel?
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