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50 Responses to `God` in Another Tales Of Mere Existence [Video]

  1. Profile photo of ShadowRyder
    ShadowRyder Male 18-29
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    December 18, 2009 at 4:03 pm
    Link: `God` in Another Tales Of Mere Existence - `I have never figured out if I believe in God or not...`
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    your0mom Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2009 at 8:34 am
    McLovin it
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    LemonTarte Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 8:39 am
    I`ve always loved this guy`s videos, but this was by far the best one.
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    Nidonemo Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 8:54 am
    Totally agree with it.
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    SLC77 Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2009 at 9:09 am
    this is the best one i`ve seen of his
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    coffeekoneko Female 18-29
    1008 posts
    December 21, 2009 at 9:19 am
    I have got to say "THANK YOU LEV!" He`s pretty much summed up my beliefs in a 3 minute video.
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    Zerocyde Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 9:36 am
    Amazing.
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    ggolbez Male 18-29
    1933 posts
    December 21, 2009 at 9:50 am
    Got to love that yesterday there was a link to children praying, and everyone was all for it. Today there is a video slamming religion, and everyone is for it. IAB`s community is so damn susceptible to anything that feels right.
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    JUGGALETTEx0 Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 10:15 am
    I drating love tales of mere existance!
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    kaseyface Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 10:38 am
    It makes me sad when religion is judged on the basis of misconception or the hypocrites who practice it.

    He certainly has valid points... when it comes to people who practice their beliefs poorly or have very narrow understandings of God. Not that anyone really has a great understanding, but I`d hope we can see evidence of some being better than others.

    Like the bike example. No, it`s not okay to steal a bike, ask for forgiveness, and then think it`s okay. If a wise or good person is truly sorry for something and in need of being forgiven, you`d think that person would feel the need to try and rectify the situation, like return the bike. Knowing that you will be forgiven for sins is NEVER a substitute for a conscience. At least, that`s how I see it.

    I feel like the religion that teaches that it`s okay to continually lie, cheat, and steal as long as you always follow-up with asking for forgiveness (whether you`re sorry or not), is not so Godly. I mean, if you do those things

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    kaseyface Female 18-29
    221 posts
    December 21, 2009 at 10:42 am
    Whoops, it cut off my post. Oh well.

    Basically, if religion teaches you to be hateful or a bad person, then UR DOIN IT RONG! This guy points out many realities of how *some* people practice religion, and these make me sad.

    Call me an optimist, but I think religion can be a source of good, and that it doesn`t *always* lead to these bad things.

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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    December 21, 2009 at 10:58 am
    kaseyface
    Female, 18-29, Midwest US
    205 Posts
    Monday, December 21, 2009 10:38:35 AM
    It makes me sad when religion is judged on the basis of misconception or the hypocrites who practice it.
    --------------------------------------------------

    It makes me sad that the religous close their eyes to everything (especially to factual information and simple logic) that disputes their "holy" books. It makes me sad that no christian seems to have acctually read the bible but instead choose to belive what family members or local preachers tell them. It makes me even sadder that they can neither decide whether the bible is literal or metaphorical, which just makes me angry because they choose to cherry pick which part suits them the most.

    Then again...I replying to the typical cliché response from a christian. "Misconception or the hypocrites who practice it".

    What misconception? I fully understand christianity. Do you?

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    cookii Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 11:15 am
    flaaaaameee war.
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    TopperHey Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 11:28 am
    It`s freezing in Manchester at the moment, so I`m going to stick my feet near my screen and warm them on the flames.
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    Crawdaddy197 Male 30-39
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    December 21, 2009 at 11:53 am
    @ The Maddog

    Thank you for that post. Most excellent.

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    LTimeLurker Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 11:56 am
    Kaseyface- It`s a cop out. Repentence means both a genuine remorse (which leads to correction of a person`s actions) and a request for forgiveness. Because, like Maddog said, most fail to read for themselves (or read in part), its easy for a person to say either that they don`t have to do what`s right because God will forgive them or resort to legalism.

    Maddog- Thank you for for being honest. I appreciate both you and Yilmaz.

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    TheGax Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 12:33 pm
    maddog, you are my hero


    unrelated to maddog,
    in MY honest opinion.....f*ck religion...all of them

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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 1:54 pm
    Well its anothrer video from an open decent person.

    I like this guy. he`s cool, i like his style and his voice is suithing yet it makes you think and listen.

    Sometimes he dissapoints me when the things he says comes straight from his mind without even the appearance of other sources` influence. "From a self-tought mind to a un-thinking one" at times it would seem.
    But i still like his vids =)

    Atheism ftw

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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
    3622 posts
    December 21, 2009 at 1:57 pm
    @ggolbez

    Go to 4chan.org (if ur +18) and hang out with /b/ for a sec...

    I dare you to go and meet Anonymus. maybe Anonymus can help you understand what is going on.
    remember that:
    Anonymus never forgets, never forgives, Anonymus is everyone`s most darkest and selfless thoughts and also the most honest one`s aswell.

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    vicious_liar Male 13-17
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    December 21, 2009 at 2:06 pm
    I love Tales of mere existence :)
    Everyone should be forced to watch "the truth about open mindedness". SO MUCH TRUTH.
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    Pilanus Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 2:30 pm
    Another nice work by Lev.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 21, 2009 at 2:44 pm
    What a surprise, Another Anti-Religion post on IAB. :facepalm:
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    LTimeLurker Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 2:54 pm
    CrakrJack- Agreed! But I attend a Christian University. So, strange maybe...but I find the willingness to openly criticize, refreshing. Ha.
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    Zerro Male 18-29
    628 posts
    December 21, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    It makes me sad that I-am-bored can`t stop posting religious-related posts...

    Whatever you`re view on religion or God is. I really don`t care. I have my views you have your views and there are sites made specifically for us to express them.

    I just don`t feel I-am-bored is the place for these type of things.

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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    December 21, 2009 at 3:28 pm
    Zerro
    Male, 18-29, Southern US
    632 Posts
    Monday, December 21, 2009 3:00:27 PM
    It makes me sad that I-am-bored can`t stop posting religious-related posts...
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    I`m sorry. We will stop twisting your arm behind your back on that one! Dont let it be said that we forced anyone into clicking on something they didnt belive in!

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    FlameOfUdun Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 4:10 pm
    "What a surprise, Another Anti-Religion post on IAB. :facepalm: "

    You get used to it.

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    Animecha Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 4:46 pm
    Idiots need to stop whining as if they`re forced to sit through every post.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 7:19 pm
    i love the tales of mere existance, this guy says the things i always think.
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    joofro Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 8:30 pm
    this guy is so smart.
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    joofro Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2009 at 8:36 pm
    also, i dont view this video as anti religious, its more of a speculation of sorts.. he brings up many interesting points on either side of said religious debate that i find quite intriguing. people should view this on a deeper level than what it initially may seem like, as opposed to an anti religious gospel they expect it to be.
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    joofro Male 18-29
    548 posts
    December 21, 2009 at 8:39 pm
    gospel was definitely not the right word for that last comment...
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    jackyface Female 18-29
    184 posts
    December 21, 2009 at 9:48 pm
    I love his videos so much.
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    kamietsu Male 18-29
    427 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 12:31 am
    anti-religious is not the same thing as questioning it. It`s stupid to 100% wholeheartedly believe in something fully and completely without some knowledge as to what you are believing. If i were still a christian, i wouldn`t believe it just because i`m told i will burn in hell if i dont or this or that. Instead i read the bible, learn abotu what christianity is, and then decide if that sounds like something that would be good for me, if i should believe that.

    You don`t believe that bum on the street that if you give him one thousand dollars that he will invest it wisely, simply because he says he will. To blindly follow something, religious or not, is how people end up believing that they just won some lottery in Zimbabawae(sp?)

    The video is awesome. Do good because it`s what`s nice, good, and should be done, not because you are trying to get some reward for it.

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    XbigXmommaX Female 18-29
    474 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 4:50 am
    if you agree with this guy you would like immanuel kant. he says "So act as to treat humanity whether in thine own person, or in that of any other, in every case, as an end withal, never as means only" which basically sums up what this video is saying. i think the book i got the quote from is called the metaphysics of morality.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 12:42 pm
    No comment!
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    kaseyface Female 18-29
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    December 22, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    Maddog,
    I don`t think anyone has *the* answers when it comes to things concerning God. So to answer your question: no I don`t fully understand any religion (nor does anyone else). In fact, I think it`s those who claim they do who seem to be the most willing to resort to hateful or harmful measures to perpetuate their "rightness". We`ve all seen how catastrophic extremism can be, ranging from small hateful words to huge things like the Holocaust. It`s absolute "right vs wrong" thinking that is so dangerous. There`s no denying that a scary portion of Christians have this problem, so we agree on that. I feel it`s essential for people to learn from the world and the people in it. For example if a person is religious and believes that God created everything, then isn`t it logical to see science as something extremely valuable? I think so. Science and all we discover from it is a gift that must help inform/shape beliefs if we are to be at all wise about the world.
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    kaseyface Female 18-29
    221 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    If there`s good scientific evidence of something, like evolution, I`ll go by what scientists have discerned in God`s earth, rather than a book written by humans who, at the time, lacked the resources to know about these things. The Bible may be inspired by God, but the hands and minds who wrote it had limits, and can`t have done it all perfectly. A small child may be struck with inspiration of something incredibly beautiful and intricate, but obviously they have limits and they won`t be able to fully understand or exactly replicate it on paper (though it`s interesting to examine the attempts).
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    kaseyface Female 18-29
    221 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    (continued)
    I don`t expect any of this to change your mind. But I hope this is a source of optimism or something? I don`t know. I guess what I`m trying to say is that I totally agree that blindness caused by religion is a very real and severe problem in this world. But, I don`t think religion is universally blinding. I find hope in the good people I see who are both religious and logical, and who are willing to learn from and deeply respect people (regardless of beliefs), understanding that it has/will challenge or even change their own previous beliefs.

    Sorry, I`m bad at being concise...

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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
    3371 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 6:00 pm
    I`m sorry kaseyface.

    Really I am. Your answer shows that your just ignorant to so much. Thats not a slander but a fact. You dont know enough to debate this with me, nor will I to discuss it futher with you after this post.

    Here`s why.
    1) You claim no one can "fully" understand religion. What? Can you not pick up a bible and read it? You go on to say the people who wrote it had limits? Wow..put 2 + 2 together and make 5 huh? I cant even begin to tell you how stupid your reasoning is there. Either it`s all right and true and is the word of god...or it isnt. I allready said this but hey..keep ignoring the obvious.

    2) You CLEARLY have no understanding of science. You obviously also dont understand that when science (and I`m not just talking evolution here) starts blowing huge holes in your religons mythology, you should be starting to look at the rest of the religion as well.

    Just two show you what I mean>>


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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 6:11 pm
    >> you can have 2 examples.

    1) The whole "creation" myth. I`ll start there because because that one annoys me the most.
    Can any 2 chrsitians acctually agree on it? Either it`s metaphorical or it`s literal. So..assuming it;s litteral, why do we have numerous scientific fields telling us that the earth and universe is very very VERY old? Thats the tip of they iceburg on that one..I could have used dinosaurs, DNA, evolution, fossils etc etc.
    So...if you dont accept it as litteral then it`s just a story and it`s not the truth.

    2) The great flood. Didnt happen and couldnt happen! The whole physics of the story, let alone the whole "2 of every animal" is rubbish. Even if the polar icecaps thawed there isnt enough water to flood...but forgetting that just look at how animal species are distributed around the planet.


    Anyway thats 2 very quick examples...I have hundreds of others. >>>

    End of story.


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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 6:16 pm
    I will add, belive what you want...but at least have the basic decency to acctually "think" about what you belive.

    Please..do go read the bible (for what will clearly be the first time from the impression I`m getting) and just think about all those little stories it`s telling you. At the very least you`ll be able to better defend your faith because at the moment your just re-enforcing everything I said in my original post!


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    The_Maddog Male 30-39
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    December 22, 2009 at 6:18 pm
    P.P.S...I apologise for the typo`s. My grammer is a wee bit off due to having a torn shoulder ligament. Hurts to type so...I probably shouldnt anymore..
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    kaseyface Female 18-29
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    December 23, 2009 at 12:41 am
    I don`t think the Bible is literal or all right and true. But I like the message of being a loving person. Is that such a bad thing to draw from it? Why does "it all have to be true or none of it is true"? Like any other book, you don`t have to believe every part of it to still take something valuable from it. The Bible has some beautiful poetry, thought-provoking stories/metaphors, etc.

    I don`t accept it as literal. But aren`t there some good things that come from stories even if they`re not true?

    I`m NOT one of those people who thinks the earth is 6000 years old. I don`t believe the creation story is literal/accurate/whatever, but it`s an interesting *story*. You listed the numerous scientific fields and sources of evidence, and I DO believe in the knowledge that those findings have provided. Yes, I am taking a look at the rest of my religious beliefs in light of scientific discovery and yes, I have made changes in what I believe and will continue to do so.

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    kaseyface Female 18-29
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    December 23, 2009 at 12:42 am
    On a side note: reading the Bible doesn`t mean you fully understand Christianity.

    The flood. I don`t see how it could have gone down that way it`s described in the Bible either.

    I don`t believe a lot of what the Bible says (like, there`s stuff in there saying that while on their periods, women are unclean and need to be separated from society…um, no). But still I believe certain things it does say too. The Bible contradicts itself in many instances. So if you choose to look to the Bible as some sort of guide then no matter what, you must pick and choose, because you can`t believe both contradictory pieces. Therefore, you can`t accept the WHOLE Bible as pure/literal truth.

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    kaseyface Female 18-29
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    December 23, 2009 at 12:43 am
    What`s so wrong about trying to figure out what messages from the Bible DO make for good things to live by? Why do I have to take all or none, especially if so many messages are contradictory? Obviously taking all literally is out of the question. Taking none would disregard the good messages that are there. And it CERTAINLY doesn`t mean it`s my only source either. Like I said earlier, it`s important to learn from the world and everyone and everything in it, with the understanding that your viewpoints will be challenged and (hopefully) changed for the better (whatever that happens to be; complete conversion, small revisions, etc).

    If you`re so convinced that the Bible is complete rubbish, then why are you encouraging me to turn to it to better defend my faith? Why would you want me to have a "better" defense of faith if you think it`s so awful and blinding? And if you think reading the Bible will make me realize how wrong I am, well, ya never know. I`ll keep reading and t

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    BadFiend Male 18-29
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    December 23, 2009 at 1:37 am
    Yay! Now when people ask me about my religion I can just link this video!
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    Kainonis Male 18-29
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    December 23, 2009 at 5:00 pm
    I approve of this so much. C:
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    Dfaulted Male 13-17
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    December 23, 2009 at 8:12 pm
    Ive heard that voice before...
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    kaseyface Female 18-29
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    December 23, 2009 at 11:51 pm
    Whoops, it cut off my last word. I meant to have it say that I will continue reading and thinking.
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    Zequr Female 18-29
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    December 30, 2009 at 9:57 am
    I would like to belive in a neutral, all loving god, that is always with you, listen to you and welcome you after your journey of life whatever you have done and whatever problems you might have. That the uglyness in life and all "evil" things are of his creation too, and there really isn`t any right or wrong that could make him love you less or more. But I doubt the existance of god. It`s just the way I wished it was.

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