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If you`re so convinced that the Bible is complete rubbish, then why are you encouraging me to turn to it to better defend my faith? Why would you want me to have a "better" defense of faith if you think it`s so awful and blinding? And if you think reading the Bible will make me realize how wrong I am, well, ya never know. I`ll keep reading and t
The flood. I don`t see how it could have gone down that way it`s described in the Bible either.
I don`t believe a lot of what the Bible says (like, there`s stuff in there saying that while on their periods, women are unclean and need to be separated from society…um, no). But still I believe certain things it does say too. The Bible contradicts itself in many instances. So if you choose to look to the Bible as some sort of guide then no matter what, you must pick and choose, because you can`t believe both contradictory pieces. Therefore, you can`t accept the WHOLE Bible as pure/literal truth.
I don`t accept it as literal. But aren`t there some good things that come from stories even if they`re not true?
I`m NOT one of those people who thinks the earth is 6000 years old. I don`t believe the creation story is literal/accurate/whatever, but it`s an interesting *story*. You listed the numerous scientific fields and sources of evidence, and I DO believe in the knowledge that those findings have provided. Yes, I am taking a look at the rest of my religious beliefs in light of scientific discovery and yes, I have made changes in what I believe and will continue to do so.
1) The whole "creation" myth. I`ll start there because because that one annoys me the most.Can any 2 chrsitians acctually agree on it? Either it`s metaphorical or it`s literal. So..assuming it;s litteral, why do we have numerous scientific fields telling us that the earth and universe is very very VERY old? Thats the tip of they iceburg on that one..I could have used dinosaurs, DNA, evolution, fossils etc etc.So...if you dont accept it as litteral then it`s just a story and it`s not the truth.
2) The great flood. Didnt happen and couldnt happen! The whole physics of the story, let alone the whole "2 of every animal" is rubbish. Even if the polar icecaps thawed there isnt enough water to flood...but forgetting that just look at how animal species are distributed around the planet.
Anyway thats 2 very quick examples...I have hundreds of others. >>>
End of story.
Really I am. Your answer shows that your just ignorant to so much. Thats not a slander but a fact. You dont know enough to debate this with me, nor will I to discuss it futher with you after this post.
Here`s why.1) You claim no one can "fully" understand religion. What? Can you not pick up a bible and read it? You go on to say the people who wrote it had limits? Wow..put 2 + 2 together and make 5 huh? I cant even begin to tell you how stupid your reasoning is there. Either it`s all right and true and is the word of god...or it isnt. I allready said this but hey..keep ignoring the obvious.
2) You CLEARLY have no understanding of science. You obviously also dont understand that when science (and I`m not just talking evolution here) starts blowing huge holes in your religons mythology, you should be starting to look at the rest of the religion as well.
Just two show you what I mean>>
Sorry, I`m bad at being concise...
You don`t believe that bum on the street that if you give him one thousand dollars that he will invest it wisely, simply because he says he will. To blindly follow something, religious or not, is how people end up believing that they just won some lottery in Zimbabawae(sp?)
The video is awesome. Do good because it`s what`s nice, good, and should be done, not because you are trying to get some reward for it.
You get used to it.
I`m sorry. We will stop twisting your arm behind your back on that one! Dont let it be said that we forced anyone into clicking on something they didnt belive in!
Whatever you`re view on religion or God is. I really don`t care. I have my views you have your views and there are sites made specifically for us to express them.
I just don`t feel I-am-bored is the place for these type of things.
Go to 4chan.org (if ur +18) and hang out with /b/ for a sec...
I dare you to go and meet Anonymus. maybe Anonymus can help you understand what is going on.remember that:Anonymus never forgets, never forgives, Anonymus is everyone`s most darkest and selfless thoughts and also the most honest one`s aswell.
I like this guy. he`s cool, i like his style and his voice is suithing yet it makes you think and listen.
Sometimes he dissapoints me when the things he says comes straight from his mind without even the appearance of other sources` influence. "From a self-tought mind to a un-thinking one" at times it would seem.But i still like his vids =)
unrelated to maddog,in MY honest opinion.....f*ck religion...all of them
Maddog- Thank you for for being honest. I appreciate both you and Yilmaz.
Thank you for that post. Most excellent.
It makes me sad that the religous close their eyes to everything (especially to factual information and simple logic) that disputes their "holy" books. It makes me sad that no christian seems to have acctually read the bible but instead choose to belive what family members or local preachers tell them. It makes me even sadder that they can neither decide whether the bible is literal or metaphorical, which just makes me angry because they choose to cherry pick which part suits them the most.
Then again...I replying to the typical cliché response from a christian. "Misconception or the hypocrites who practice it".
What misconception? I fully understand christianity. Do you?
Basically, if religion teaches you to be hateful or a bad person, then UR DOIN IT RONG! This guy points out many realities of how *some* people practice religion, and these make me sad.
Call me an optimist, but I think religion can be a source of good, and that it doesn`t *always* lead to these bad things.
He certainly has valid points... when it comes to people who practice their beliefs poorly or have very narrow understandings of God. Not that anyone really has a great understanding, but I`d hope we can see evidence of some being better than others.
Like the bike example. No, it`s not okay to steal a bike, ask for forgiveness, and then think it`s okay. If a wise or good person is truly sorry for something and in need of being forgiven, you`d think that person would feel the need to try and rectify the situation, like return the bike. Knowing that you will be forgiven for sins is NEVER a substitute for a conscience. At least, that`s how I see it.
I feel like the religion that teaches that it`s okay to continually lie, cheat, and steal as long as you always follow-up with asking for forgiveness (whether you`re sorry or not), is not so Godly. I mean, if you do those things