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Very few words, but very wise ones!
in any case, if you assume that space is infinite, than god HAS to exist, but if it`s not, there`s only a chance he MIGHT exist, so I`m still waiting on that....
John 14:6 - "No man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
Sucks for all those newborn babies who died with their original sin, having never been baptised or having had the chance to Accept Jesus as Their Lord and Saviour, but hey.
I don`t know If there is a God.. frankly I don`t care... One day when I die, If it turns out that there is in fact a God I`m sure I won`t be sent to Hell for not having read the bible 24/7 or getting baptised.. If there really is a God and he is Omni - everything, all knowing all seeing and all that jazz then he`ll know I lived my life as a good person..
If he or she still sends me to a Hell simply on the technicality that I didn`t fully commit regardless of the fact I did not sin then frankly he`s a prick and I don`t want to be in heaven under what can only be an unjust and unfair system.
If It turns out that there is no God, Then I have lost nothing and will simply rot and become part of the earth I once walked on..
Fair enough :D
I just read through the comments and it has occured to me.. that there are some right morons on the Christian side of the argument, there are some right morons on the Athiest side... and a few people in between trying to keep the peace, the occasional comment regarding beef jerky or cocaine.. and some funny one liners.. (from both sides)..
Please never stop people, you provide entertainment for the rest of the world :D
Okay"It`s not the fact that you refuse to believe in him that`s ridiculous, it`s the fact that you completely deny the his prescence that`s ridiculous. Just like we can`t prove something undetectable is there, you cannot prove that it isn`t. Yes, its not really a good argument against atheism, but that`s not what its supposed to combat, it`s supposed to stop both sides from using that weak argument.
Yeah, way back in 1982 when I was in grade 10, mankind was 150,000 years old, the earth was 6 million, Mars had canals of water and breathable although thin air, and the last ice age hadn`t technically finished (we`re in an `interglacial`) and things would progressively get cooler over the next 500 years.
Yeah, science never changes.
It`s the same as saying we don`t believe in soul-eating unicorns the size of mosquitoes. We don`t believe in some all-knowing, all-creating man who killed his son for sins he made possible for us to commit anyway. We don`t believe in that. That`s as ridiculous in believing in it?
Darwin`s original theory has been modified so many times, half the poo Einstein said has been proven wrong, the 1970s was all about Global Cooling and now its all about Global Warming.
Didn`t John Needham say he proved spontaneous generation? Yup, Science is completely definite...
Welcome to the club, jackass."
You guys are stupid. He was showing how stupid Batmanners argument was. Can`t believe you idiots actually took him seriously. I guess reading more than 1 post at a time is much more than what some of you are capable of.
"Is "growing out of science" even possible?"
The same way people expect us to grow out of religion. You`re basing the whole world on observations which have continually showed us how drated up they could be. Not to mention rationale that is usually incorrect.
Most of what science tells us now will be outdated in 50 years.
Welcome to the club, jackass.
Welcome to the club.
Don`t you have faith in your logic? There really isn`t any reason to yet you operate under that auspice.
"lol thats funny, religeon is stupid"
Thats suicide, which is basis for condemnation stupid
Atheist: God doesn`t exist!Person: How do you know?Atheist: Because I don`t believe in him!
Of course the same could be said for Christians (in fact Atheists often get a smug feeling pointing this out), but rarely do they turn the scope on themselves and realize that their lack of proof that he DOESN`T exist is just as ridiculous sounding.
Oh, and I forgive your sins and such...
Come on. Prove your faith and kill yourself. If you don`t kill yourself, you are then an Atheist, welcome to the club.
By the same logic it is best to kill your children before they become responsible for their beliefs, to guarantee they go to heaven.
btw i do belive there is a god or at least something out there, but imho all religeon is brainwashing bullpoo
I bet that guy would get pissed if someone went up to him and said `Well done for taking down that terrorist, but it was actually God who did it.`
And there can`t be any one god that created everything, because there are loads of gods to choose from. Lots of takes on a story/idea that was easy to believe 2000 years ago when they didn`t know nearly as much about the world and stuff.
In all fairness we don`t know that`s how life originated (afaik), but a simple organism forming spontaneously is by far more likely than a supremely complex entity like God springing out of nothing to create everything. At this point the religious guys will "refute" that by claiming that God is infinite and eternal and has always been, thus closing the circle of stupidity.
B.) All life was formed by essentially a bunch of chemicals and elements being in the right place at the right time and by a slim chance, a small organism was formed, which then evolved over millions of years to what we call life today."
what`s wrong with this theory? it`s more ridiculous to say a sky fairy poofed it one day.
Boy, did YOU come to the wrong place :-) !!!
We`ve been having fun here at IAB for plenty of years now without you and what YOU want. So no thanks on whatever bullpoo changes you want. Sorry."
Have my babies. <3
We`ve been having fun here at IAB for plenty of years now without you and what YOU want. So no thanks on whatever bullpoo changes you want. Sorry.
*tosses a copy of The Zombie Survival Guide and ducks*
Loose Change, google it, watch it!
But see, this isn`t a Xn site, and ludicrous crap is called out, so when some link is posted with the possible intent to bash atheists, it gets more support (it seems) than the ones that bash Xns. Hmm.
@Boadicea there are more of these everyday. it`s just stupid to keep having them show up.
Everybody is wrong and stupid! Muahahahahahaa.
It has the word `christian` in the title, there are +100 posts in it, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU`RE WALKING IN TO, so if you don`t like it, or are getting sick of it, don`t click the drating link, jesus drating christ. YOU DO IT TO YOURSELF.
all they do is incite flame wars. every single time. just stop it...
Oh well, I`m just an Atheist, what do I know.
And you believe that we were all created out of matter that was neither created nor destroyed yet appeared out of no where and we are all here just because.
"(in my opinion) i`m agnostic and i`m going to look at the whole thing through an agnostic point of view."Agnostic= Atheist without balls
Global Warming? The SCIENCE is SETTLED!!1!(oh, and fake too)
eggsnham = threadwinner!!!
Eggs:You would rather believe that life was *poof`d* into existence?
I am actually bored now lets just stick with the "if you could reason with a religious person, there would be no religion" it will cause less arguements in the long run.
No wonder so many of them are members of both.
It makes me laugh to see people of the Demon Lord Jeebus make such fools of themselves so often.
He is dead, and no, he did not come back (serious scholars question his existence, period).
Ritual Cannibalistic Middle Eastern Death Cult. No thanks, go marginalize yourselves into non-existence.
Don`t you mean GLOBAL WARMING GLOBAL WARMING?
Its slightly different than saying, HEY GUYS!!! THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Ouch, we`re not all that unreasonable, I just refuse to believe that
A.) The universe was created by a large random explosion.
B.) All life was formed by essentially a bunch of chemicals and elements being in the right place at the right time and by a slim chance, a small organism was formed, which then evolved over millions of years to what we call life today.
There is one major flaw in big bang though. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. You can`t just say....Well drat it nothing else fits so we`ll just go with this one.
Perhaps not...but it`s still trying to find out. You are the one claiming you have the answer, not science."
Science can`t answer anything that is unobservable. So anything that happened before Time cannot be answered by Science period.
""I believe in Jesus Christ and his salvation by dying on the cross for our sins"
There nothing I can say that will explain to you how insane that stuff sounds!"
As opposed to life was all caused by a bunch of random mumbo jumbo that we can`t really explain how it got there and we are all here just because?
Not whining, just making a point. I`m quite happy ignoring the anti-religious posts and getting on with life but some people earlier on were trying to tell me IAB ain`t anti-religious, which is complete bullpoo.
I think you need to go to a different website if you`re offended.
You appear to have taken that personally, is your name Michael? Is there a Michael debating further in the comments? I meant the guy on the link who`s only comeback was `no` with nothing to back it up.
Calm down big fella
That is the life you choose for yourself, is it not? We, humans, all have differing opinions in many things and they will always clash. Religious arguments are inevitable between us. Just relax and accept that these clashing opinions may possibly be the end of us one day- lol, j/k...
Or am I?
Thought I was under 1000 characters :S
Unless you`re Michael Kazmierczak.
Lol @ Snorlax.
I think in terms of complete hostility towards Christians, some members sound like they belong on 4chan. I`ve been called countless names for believing in "that sky-wizard out of children`s fairytales". Now I`m not a sensitive Christian, but some of it has genuinely hurt. And the people judging me and my faith seem to have very little understanding of what Christians actually believe. They group us all with the few fundamentalists at Westboro Baptist Church and quote what they consider to be shocking passages from the Bible but take them waaaay out of context.Heck, look at the tagline for this post. The website`s administrator himself is very sarcastically poking fun at Christians. I`ve never attacked an atheist for what they believe, I`ve only ever defended what I believe. It`s often claimed that Christians are intolerant and in-your-face, but on this website it seems to be the other way around. I feel like I`m having atheism shoved down
Congrats, you win.
You guys are just trying to spark debates aren`t you? ...
Why do you want people to keep their points of view away from you when you keep dishing it out to other people?
Being a "Smart Ass" doesn`t make you smart.
Hear hear!!!!! Bravo! WOOOOOOOHOOOOOO! I concur..
Ahem. I never said otherwise. I never claimed to know what caused it (I could theorise) but I do know that all the evidence says it happened!
The post was directed purely at krisley who said, and I quote:
--"Have you observed the big bang? Is there definite proof that it happened? Flatly, no. A bunch of rules, and laws of physics make it possible to theorize such a beginning, but that doesn`t prove anything."--
But as ususal this is pointless...I can provide supporting proof for plenty of "scientific theories" but someone, just like yourself, will allways come along and say "but that doesn`t prove god didnt do it".
Of course your never gonna prove he did either so it will forever be a stalemate!
But in all honesty, If religion was kept out of politics (it isnt no matter what anyone says) I really wouldnt give a crap who belives what as long as they kept it away from me.
Atheists and hardcore christians alike are offensive to society. SO SHUT IT!
Its not rude to point out that the one guy who should be thanked is the one who helped the people.. He kindly pointed out that the Christian bloke had failed to mention him.. Thats all.
And your SHUT IT only proves a point about rudeness... Dickhead... (I can be rude because you are a moron and I don`t give a flying drat If I offend you..)
I do believe in the Big Bang. Have I observed the big bang? In a way, YES. I`ve seen the CBR distribution. It`s science evidence. I may not have seen the bang, but I can measure the echo. Is there exactly proof that it happened the way we think exactly...no. That doesn`t mean there`s not a lot of evidence that supports the way we think.
You said it yourself. We have a bunch of rules. Descriptions that accurately predict the way something will act. With these rules, we predicted CBR, BEFORE we found it. There`s nothing magical about it. The rules predicted it would be there and it was.
That`s science, that`s why scientists scoff christians. Christianity/ID/whatever weird thing your pushing doesn`t predict accurately. Its predictions cannot be measured or tested, and therefore it is useless as a tool.
He DID say "as well you should." And then went on to say but also God.
Atheists and hardcore christians alike are offensive to society. SO SHUT IT!
I think the world was shat out by the honey monster during a smurgling contest. The atmosphere and stars created along with it are the bits of fart spray that occurred after the initil dump.. The world is actually oblong shaped and everything you look at is distorted and you can`t really be sure that up is down or down is up because we all have fart vapour in our eyes. You should be worshipping the honey monster`s scrotum which was wrenched from the monster by mistake along with the world when he shat. The honey monster is long gone and doesn`t even know what he created those many moons ago.
Stop being so brick headed and go educate yourself.
Big Bang Theory
Whilst non of us can "prove" anything about the big bang, there is some strong evidence to support it. "Hubbles Law" is undenyable. What is also undenyable is that so many christians here simply have no idea what the big bang theory is all about.
The links there, the evidince is listed once you click and scroll down a bit. The page even explains what the big bang really is.
At least have the decency to read it and "try" to understand what it`s saying!
How can you be so presumptuous to just assume that they are all wrong, and rejected your god? Have you ever taken the time to truly question whether you chose the right god, and actively rejected the gods of all other religions? I think not. Don`t sound so smug; you`re no more right than anybody else. That`s what bugs me most about the annoying xns- they`re so obnoxious and think they`re right about it all, and everybody else is sad and misguided. No, you just happened to be born in a place where Xnty is popular, as opposed to the East, where you would have been Muslim.
Because it pisses off every one who doesn`t believe in god anytime somebody (i.e. a person) does something good, god gets all the bleeding credit.. The guy was pointing out that the passengers should be thanking the person who stopped the terrorist... not god.
What? You think that God, whether you believe in him or not, would spend all his time planning out every little detail of every persons lives?
Even God would go insane doing that.
Oh he probably is... It just happens to be thats not the topic... A normal Christian would just say thank god that didn`t happen and that be it.. this guy goes into it fully.. Get into an argument with the guy and it would turn into you will go to hell kinda argument.. fun fun fun
Your not even sure of how heaven is spelled?
The burden of proof is on Christians, pure and simple, because they are the ones claiming that the observed facts are wrong. It`s THEIR responsibility to show their claim isn`t hornswoggle. That`s the way it works.
As to your statement regarding proofs, you can`t prove it how? Are you trying to do something like a liars paradox? I can prove it`s a statement. I can`t prove its validity because it doesn`t say anything.
I do not quite agree.
You might need to see a necessity to prove that God exists, and others don`t. So, who`s got to prove what? Both statements are outrageous, if you think of it. The existence of God would explain a lot, as it would raise an equal amount of questions.
We shouldn`t be requesting the other side to prove the existence of God, because, simply, not everything can be proven (need proof? I cannot prove this statement)
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Your post is EXACTLY why you cant be talked to like a normal person.
To quote:"Science can`t answer why we or how we are here either"
Perhaps not...but it`s still trying to find out. You are the one claiming you have the answer, not science.
"I believe in Jesus Christ and his salvation by dying on the cross for our sins"
There nothing I can say that will explain to you how insane that stuff sounds!
"But some one thinking that random stuff collided in space one random day and poof, and they are considered logical thinking? That seems like a double standard to me."
Ha..yeah it would. I`ll "consider" something as a possibility if there is evidence to support it UNTILL evidence for a better "theory" comes along.Again, your little book has the answers..sadly however we know it dosnt hold up to real world explanations that we know as FACT!
Religion was obvisly made up by tribeleaders to unite people in cooperation.
Gah i don`t remember the name of the place or the religion, but it is the earliest one discoverd and it origniated in the middle-east. something about worshippoiing the sun. the religion gathered allot of people and they made the atm largest city in the world.
there really arn`t a single answear to how god doesn`t excist. but pure sence and logic dictates the non-existence.
agh oh no! i contribiuted to the arguements on iab :S i will go execute myself now.
See that`s not how it works. If you claim something outrageous you have to prove that it is so, not the other way around. I simply refer you to the celestial tea pot, or the more popular flying spaghetti monster. I`m not denying Christians their right to have faith but i think faith needs to be challenged. Do you believe what you believe because you think it sounds plausible and right or do you believe it because you were raised to believe it and because of social pressure?
The first person that gives me a plausible reason why God doesn`t exist, and that cannot be rejected,I will recognize them as being the most awesome being to walk upon this beautiful earth.
i hate it when atheists argue with religious people. For one thing, it`s too easy, and for another, the religious people aren`t exactly going to say "yeah, I`ve followed this religion my whole life and in my mind it`s 100% certain, but you make a good point. drat my religion"
Just cut back on this posts for everyones sake
So would you stay if this was an output for pro-Christian propaganda?
God if fake. If he is real, prove it.
There`s a high level of mob mentality against Christians on IAB and has been for a while.
Anyway, what Greg L and Michael K seem to miss is the fact that some people would have been updating their status to "thanks Allah for His great victory in killing all the infidels of the Amsterdam-Detroit flight." To them, God (Allah) did put Umar on the plane. Same God (YES IT IS!). Two different points of view. Who`s right?