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im a hunter... i have a freezer full of deer meat in order for us to get that we must hunt the worlds getting weak were animals we must kill other animals to survive.. you may just go to the store and buy it but someone did kill it
Its cruel. we have no business messing with nature.
Another issue: CWD. Many jurisdictions offer hunting seasons that exist specifically to thin the heard to stop the spread of epidemics in the natural community such as Chronic Wasting Disease.
Both starvation or CWD are far more painful for the animal than being killed by a hunter.
The issue is that many hunters take it upon themselves to kill fawns, or kill deer as trophies. They are not stewards of the land as all hunters _should_ be.
Also, you say that "taking a life is taking a life;" nothing more, nothing more. Well, unless you`re a vegetarian you`ve got no right to talk. There`s little difference, given that rigid argument, between shooting a deer and killing a cow for food.
I prefer the idea of hunting over the idea of slaughterhouses.
Taking a life, is taking a life. You can try to dress it up as much as you want, but that`s what it is. If you must, do it with dignity and put it down with as little pain as possible.
Killing for food is one thing. I`m vegetarian myself, but I have no problem with the choices other people make. I wear leather protective motorcycle gear, and I don`t shun medicines that have been tested on animals (which, by the way, is ALL of them).
But to kill for recreation, rather than to satisfy a need, disturbs me. But I`m not going to fight against it; if it`s still going to satisfy a need (for food, or just to control population numbers, etc), then I don`t see why people can`t enjoy themselves doing it, even if I find it personally abhorrent.
Killing large mammals for sport may sound cruel but as long as certain rules are followed, they ought to have the right to do so.
I nearly shat myself when I saw one at my local zoo a few weeks back. And no, this image has not been adjusted using Adobe (c) Photoshop (c) Image Enhancement Software. It`s a Chinese Water Deer, google that sh*t.
I`d watch my back if I were that guy.
Oh and I am also suprised that I`ve hung out this long to chat crap on here. TBH it`s going a long way to helping me quit smoking.
PS. My arguments were on the topic and in response to the posts. I didn`t just go with the personal remarks, except in the case of the neo-nazi scumbag (but then he is a racist so feck him :P ) If you want to give me a taste of my own medicine you should read the label mate. Go feck a kangaroo.
Waffle, the very definition, I`m afraid, of trolling. Look, if you have a point to make then cool, but if you`re only deliberatly pissing others off for kicks then that`s not cool no more. Come on, you know this. I see 364 posts in your month-long membership of the site, no contributed content whatsoever, and a lot of aggravation of other users (including a fair amount of personal insults). Chill out and have some fun man, while not at the expense of getting others pissed off. People come here to get un-bored, not annoyed...
You`re as bad as waffle. Sorry.
Read the rest of the thread and you will see my post to opiebreath admitting this. You are an idiot.
You have been had. Have a nice day.
If that`s everyone`s argument, lets just kill us all off so the environment can fare better. We`re the most destructive species ont he planet, yet we kill animals for `population control` while we destroy the environment a million fold more than a deer ever could.
Lies! Lies! Lies! The internet IS for p0rn!
If he was a real man he would spend 10-30 minutes reading up about this subject and then come back and just tell everyone that he was wrong and in the future he will think twice about speaking out his ass on a public forum.
Now go ahead Gamerdude... we`ll all hold our breath till you get back.
It is also a proven fact that the checmicals that are needed for production of your precious gaming consoles and laser disks to go in them have killed more habitat than any hunter ever has
OMG is it a tranny?
What do you think the spear is? It is an evolution from the first ever projectile weapon...a rock. It was designed to allow greater accuracy as well as greater killing power over a rock. The bow and arrow was a logical upgrade over the spear to allow greater distance as well as accuracy.
Guess what the next evolution in projectile weapons was? If you guessed the gun then you are absolutely correct.
So why can my ancestors use an upgraded weapn but I can`t :-(
Look you ignorant waste of life, most often than not, deer are in season to be hunted in order to keep the population down in a land where they don`t have enough predators to keep up with their spawn rate. So hunters tend to make a sport of it, I mean they may as well... it does actually take a bit of skill to kill a deer. It`s not just point click and shoot.
Oh, and for the record, I don`t hunt... I couldn`t stand killing the things. But I am educated and see the need for it. Unlike yourself.
They exist, you know. Chinese Water Deer are one example. This is NOT a photoshop:
-10 intelligence +5 douchebag
You mean we aren`t anymore?
However- the conditions on factory farms are atrocious, and there`s absolutely no reason that eating meat should mean subjecting animals (or the people who work on those farms) to such abject misery. It is possible to raise meat humanely.
And you know the most humane way to get meat? Hunting. The animal gets to live a free and natural life until they are taken out by a predator- the way deer and many other animals have lived their lives for millions of years.
Im just questioning our ethics, even my own. What I am saying is we act in a way that is nonsensical sometimes. I think Peter Singer calls it speciesism
The number of hunting licenses that are issued each year, for each species, is determined by the amount of "excess" of that species. It helps to cull an "overpopulation problem which can result in animals starving to death etc. at the very least. Plus the money collected goes to supporting wildlife.
I am not a hunter, but hunting is a good thing to help us and animals, cohabitate.
Don`t confuse good, conscientious hunters, with beer swilling, gun firing morons.
I take it your a vegan. Do you bathe because most soaps are derived from animal fat not to mention odds are your using or wearing something from an animal and don`t even know it. As for canibalism aside from possibly murdering people it`s been shown to cause something named "kuru" that has some similarities to mad cows disease.
ah so it`s fair if you keep them in a little shed / field and locked up in cages but not if they can run away from you? hmmm. Also what do you think venison is?
Back to the point: you think the slaughterhouse is fair to the cow then? You think McDonalds is humane to the lettuce? We eat living things to survive, usually we kill them first. Your argument is BS. Go for a week without eating or using any product that required the death of a plant or animal. We`ll get a medium to do find out the results. If more people went out to kill and cook their own food we wouldn`t have to put up with the governments of the world patronizing us with stupid "how to get your 5 a day" adverts.
Hey i`m an animal lover but I don`t have a problem with hunting as long as they eat the meat etc. not just get the head and leave the rest to rot. It`s some peoples main food source. No msg or anything in it either.
It says they like fresh food that hasn`t been through a supermarket.
That`s basically the definition of fair. The alligator is using nothing more than what it was born with to SURVIVE. Actually, yeah, there are many stores you can go to to get fresh venison. And oh yeah, the difference is the damn alligator can`t pull out his wallet, run down to one of those stores, and buy himself some nice buffalo meat. We`re not wild animals, that`s the best part about being human, we can survive. Don`t get me wrong, if I were ever in a situation where I was lost in the wild and needed to survive, I`d be able to pop a deer and eat. There`s no need for it as a sport, regardless of what you do with the meat. Can`t afford to feed your family? Get a better job, or think ahead before having kids next time. Leave the poor animals out of it. Eat something that is domesticated and bred for food.
Well for one, I don`t see a reason why the human would be chewing on raw deer. Unless they didn`t get any cooking lessons from their parents. Which is another story. :P
and i am sure they were happily in love, since ya know deer are monogamous and there is not a time of year where they just screw everything they can than take a year off after that. there just such, kind, emotional, sensitive, creatures. well i did it, i made myself hungry talking about deer, i think ill have some venison for dinner.
How would this picture be different if it were a puma chewing on the deer instead of a human? It`s survival of the fittest.
For what it`s worth I will say that I don`t care much for trophy hunting. It always seems too much like an effort at compensation.
Good luck to the doe, if she want`s to keep breathing though she`d better haul ass.
Not tasty, fresh venison. & Reign, is it fair that an alligator can camo in with the water and sneak attack a buffalo that`s merely trying to get a drink? Nature isn`t fair, why should we try to be? A gun is much more humane than an arrow, anyway. Even if he hit the deer in the chest with an arrow, it might not have enough force to go all the way into the heart, then the poor thing would just be stumbling around in pain.
I bet he felt like a pile...
But on a more related note, that deer looks delicious.
We saved a lot of money on food during deer season which helped more than just our family. He would give some of the meat to the residents of our neighborhood who could not afford to buy food all the time.
As for those who hunt deer as a sport, the meat is still used to feed people even if they themselves do not eat it. Most of them donate the meat to the community or give it to friends and family members who may need or want it.
Deer hunting is actually necessary for some areas as the deer will over populate and cause disease and famine amongst themselves which could wipe them all out instead of a few dozen.
This is no different than a lion killing an antelope or gazelle for their pride. Nature creates predators for reasons of culling out some of the herd. It ensures a great
Had a lol.
I have no problems with animals being killed for a good reason, for food for example. But killing a deer just for no reason is sick in my opinion.But I live in another culture, in Holland, so maybe I just don`t get Americans...