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I suffered more broken bones and injuries than I care to recall, but like with runners and other intense sports, there is a certain level of pain required to tone the body and focus the mind.
At the club I went to, they used additional conditioning, water deprivation, or extended practice times as punishment since in America, parents are allowed to watch.
Many chinese gymnasts are removed from their homes to complete this hardcore training. Remember though, family honor is a big thing in many cultures, so maybe that benefits their drive.
Plus, it really is a fun sport. Majority of the video displayed the strength training required to do the pretty stuff you see on TV.
Americans have the discipline of a wet noodle, end of Empire story.
It`s called Nationalism. In communism there is no room for rugged individualism, Everything is done for the good of the state. It`s insidiously evil to stomp out a persons/peoples individualism. It turns them into mindless machines doing the states bidding.
That is just the kind of "the ends justifies the means" thinking that makes this world so messed up.
But boy, those kids are sure as hell more flexible than 90% of America.
I will give you your points that I grossly oversimplified a complicated entity such as communism, however you cannot tell me communist citizens have the same choices as those from free nations. Currently China does indeed sport a "choice" of employment, but the Chinese Gov. will always be able to take that away, unlike in free countries. Also, look at certain high profile Chinese stars here in America. Take Yao Ming for instance... a good portion of his pay goes to China. He has no choice in the matter.
No, you idiot, nobody would be complaining if it were a video of that because we`re all from Europe, Canada, or the US (with a couple exceptions). The fact that you brought that up shows that you clearly didn`t understand the underlying theme in my comment.
Our inability to understand their culture.
We see these crying kids and instantly think that they need to be saved or rescued from some scary communist regime. Why is that? Because they`re put through tough training to achieve great things? My referencing the candybar was simply showing how irrelevant tears are. Kids cry, that`s that. Doesn`t mean they`re being abused.
Take off your condescending googly eyes you dolt.
That IS a form of child abuse... that makes me so goddamn angry.
Cause the child roses like,Try to reveal what I could feel,I can`t understand myself anymore,Cause I`m still feeling lonely,Feeling so unholy.
That is COMPLETELY different. Do you think the majority in this forum would be complaining if it were a video of that? thank you. This has NOTHING to do with a child not getting the candybar they wanted or any of that, and you comparing this to THAT makes me go "wtf?"
While, yes, it is good, nay vital, to work hard for a goal in life, making a child suffer and forcing them to do something just because you want them to win (hey, do you really think every single crying kid there wants to be a gymnast? Many were probably chosen due to physique alone.) is a terrible thing. To breed another person for your own goal is a form of slavery. To raise them adequetly in all skills and then let them decide which they want to persue to a higher degree is to let a human actually be a human, and not your country`s tool to getting a shiny medal.
Have your kids ever cried because they didn`t want to do their homework? Mow the lawn? Clean their room? Did you make them do it anyway? CHILD ABUSE!
I`m so glad we`re enlightened now, and that kids can raise themselves in "Time Out."
Think about what these children are training for and what they will potentially achieve. Worldwide fame? National respect and admiration? There ARE perks to their suffering. Do you think it should be easy to be the best in the world?
It may seem wrong to you that these people can treat their children this way, but to others it also may seem wrong that we`re so lax on our children.
And yes, I`m American.
Point is that you can not and should not judge another culture by your own cultures set of rules and beliefs. You think your principles are universal, but 1) they are not and 2) there is no universal set of values.
Also, wtf does this have to do with wal-mart?
Most of those children were crying in pain.
First off, China was doing this long before Wal-Mart became popular. Secondly, Wal-Mart tries to buy American made products whenever it can. Thirdly, Taking a swipe at capitalism via some Wal-Mart/China conspiracy you believe to exist does not nor ever will help children there.
Time to stop shopping at Wal-Mart people. You`re all still part of the problem similar to this. And that`s from a shallow judgement based on the trend here. Carry on tho ^^.
I`m not sure you`d have the choice in China.
PS: If I`m the judge, I give this video a 0.9
These kids are taken from their parents and trained in special `schools` far away from their homes. The parents never see this abuse and even if they did they`d think it was a just sacrifice to win glory for China.
/drated up parents in a drated up culture
Chinese training methods fail!
I was simply stating that from their perspective, only some of that video was unnecessarily cruel (I do believe, anyway; I hope the culture still sees some of that as cruel).
I`d never let my kids go through that, for sure.
Perhaps. Then again that makes their culture stupid, backwards, and well, retarded. You can`t blame injustice on "cultural differences". That`s just smug.
call it a cultural difference if you must, but our reactions aren`t a product of ethnocentrism. our reactions are fed by the tears of these children. hardcore training is great, but not if it causes children agony like that.