Chinese Gymnast Training [Video]

Submitted by: a1butcher 7 years ago in Weird

Future gold medalists or just plan old child abuse? You be the judge.
There are 96 comments:
Female 23
this video made me well upset :(
yeah okay if its their choice, but like, they were too harsh, he didnt need to kick him in the head and stuff and throw him about like a doll :(
0
Reply
Female 1
I was a gymnast for 10 years at the top club in my state. American gymnastics is hard, as is major training for any sport.

I suffered more broken bones and injuries than I care to recall, but like with runners and other intense sports, there is a certain level of pain required to tone the body and focus the mind.

At the club I went to, they used additional conditioning, water deprivation, or extended practice times as punishment since in America, parents are allowed to watch.

Many chinese gymnasts are removed from their homes to complete this hardcore training. Remember though, family honor is a big thing in many cultures, so maybe that benefits their drive.

Plus, it really is a fun sport. Majority of the video displayed the strength training required to do the pretty stuff you see on TV.

0
Reply
Female 474
not all of it`s bad, but they cross the line when they forced the kids to do things they didn`t want to and hit them
0
Reply
Male 1,190
I dont have to bow down to them, the USG does that everyday when it asks the Chinese govt to buy our debt.
The day they say no is the day the US dollar collapses, it has already lost 65% of its value since 2000.

Enjoy,
S*D

0
Reply
Male 522
then you guys can start bowing to your chinese masters but i don`t know anyone who would rather live in china than the US. thats what i meant by china never being as good as america.
and the "reality" is that these girls are lucky that they weren`t aborted, abandoned, or put up for adoption. they`ll be forced to serve their state in one way or another, whether they like it or not.
0
Reply
Male 1,190
Sinclair wins, for being in reality rather than the propaganda world where the USA is still number 1 (at anything).
0
Reply
Male 269
"China tries to be as good as America"? The Chinese, as well as a few other countries, are kicking Americas butt in many ways. And its becoming easier all the time. Try reading a news paper some time
0
Reply
Male 1,190
These kids will be running your kids lives in 30 years or so.

Enjoy.

Americans have the discipline of a wet noodle, end of Empire story.

0
Reply
Male 522
i hate china because they try too hard to be as good as america. they`ll find out the hard way that they`re not.
0
Reply
Female 395
i think this was a documentary a few years back but i might be wrong, still some of that is plain ole child abuse but these kids end up passionate about what they are doing. i guess its the same as any child not wanting to disappoint their parents. i suppose most people never grow out of it.
0
Reply
Male 25,416
Its insane, these kids from the age of 4 are chosen to participate in the training and do this for 8 hours a day for 6 days a week! that why they are so good when they are at the olympics!
0
Reply
Male 248
^_^ Sadness is just a Chinese Training camp away.
0
Reply
Male 13
@GosuPaul
My thoughts exactly
0
Reply
Male 4,680
I`d complain, but then we get parents in the west forcing their kids to play sports all the time. Not really just a China thing.
0
Reply
Female 1,186
Chinese gymanst training=plain ol` child abuse
imho
0
Reply
Male 2,049
@19 Hear that Danielle San? Thats the sound of back breaking!
0
Reply
Female 271
Those kids are gonna be flexible and tough as hell when they`re older.
Dance/gymnast instructors can be pretty tough. I did gymnastics when I was younger, and the Eastern European instructors were really strict and would push you quite far.
I managed to be able to do some crazy flexible stuff back then!
0
Reply
Female 3,828
hard to watch. i only got aboout halfway through before i had to stop
0
Reply
Male 1,685
mmmm, Portishead.
0
Reply
Male 137
The song is chilling. And I love the kid at 1:15 he looks ready to kill the coach/ parent/ trainer
0
Reply
Male 535
Regardless of anything else. Portishead Rocks.
0
Reply
Female 78
My dance teachers in upstate New York did similar stuff. Isn`t that painful when you`re a kid, you`re much more flexible. Though they probably do it for a hell of a lot longer.
0
Reply
Male 17,511
"Many people here in the United States would sell their souls for that kind of fame. It`s not about that to them though. It`s about honoring their country and making their people proud."

It`s called Nationalism. In communism there is no room for rugged individualism, Everything is done for the good of the state. It`s insidiously evil to stomp out a persons/peoples individualism. It turns them into mindless machines doing the states bidding.

0
Reply
Male 17,511
"Think about what these children are training for and what they will potentially achieve. Worldwide fame? National respect and admiration? There ARE perks to their suffering."

That is just the kind of "the ends justifies the means" thinking that makes this world so messed up.

0
Reply
Female 1,306
Clearly these kids were in pain, at the times when they were crying. I don`t think that they necessarily wanted to stop, but I think it`s terrible that they were raised to think it`s fine to dislike what you`re doing and, and although it`s causing you pain, keep doing it because your elders want you to.
0
Reply
Female 1,283
I know officially hate LiveLeak =(
Load, damn you!

But boy, those kids are sure as hell more flexible than 90% of America.

0
Reply
Male 421
what`s the point? so this kids, and by extension, china get some gold medals for gymnastics in the olympics? do they gain anything other than media recognition for the fact that they used under age kids in order to win? the kids obviously don`t gain anything...it`s not like they`re getting sponsorships or becoming famous or anything, and even the ones that do succeed just get replaced by young blood four years later. I just don`t see the point...it`s friggin gymnastics for Chrisakes!
0
Reply
Male 65
Complete child abuse
0
Reply
Female 2,549
That looked like a documentary shoot (no hidden camera)
The thing is there is tradition in Asian cultures in many disciplines to start young and `harsh training` is accepted form of knowledge transfer.
Still & all, it was hard to watch
0
Reply
Female 31
Did you see the way those trainers shoved the kids around? That one guy that bent a little boy backwards and then kicked him in the head ought to be shot. (Or at least fired.)
0
Reply
Male 2,796
linklink
Last

I will give you your points that I grossly oversimplified a complicated entity such as communism, however you cannot tell me communist citizens have the same choices as those from free nations. Currently China does indeed sport a "choice" of employment, but the Chinese Gov. will always be able to take that away, unlike in free countries. Also, look at certain high profile Chinese stars here in America. Take Yao Ming for instance... a good portion of his pay goes to China. He has no choice in the matter.

0
Reply
Male 516
"That is COMPLETELY different. Do you think the majority in this forum would be complaining if it were a video of that? thank you. This has NOTHING to do with a child not getting the candybar they wanted or any of that, and you comparing this to THAT makes me go "wtf?""

No, you idiot, nobody would be complaining if it were a video of that because we`re all from Europe, Canada, or the US (with a couple exceptions). The fact that you brought that up shows that you clearly didn`t understand the underlying theme in my comment.

Our inability to understand their culture.

We see these crying kids and instantly think that they need to be saved or rescued from some scary communist regime. Why is that? Because they`re put through tough training to achieve great things? My referencing the candybar was simply showing how irrelevant tears are. Kids cry, that`s that. Doesn`t mean they`re being abused.

Take off your condescending googly eyes you dolt.

0
Reply
Male 92
I`ll say this, I think this is fine SO LONG AS THEY CHOOSE TO BE THERE. Now I have my doubts about that. But this is a country of over 1 billion and a world of 6.5+billion, to stand out some people go to amazing lengths. When I did high school sports I worked out very hard (obv. not fast track Olympic training) but I cried, bled, threw up and I`ll never regret a second. To some people the only way to survive is to go dratting nuts. I just hope they have good healthcare >.< p.s. these are chinese so those are probably 18-19 year olds...
0
Reply
Female 2,220
I had to stop at 2:04.

That IS a form of child abuse... that makes me so goddamn angry.

0
Reply
Female 713
All this abuse talk aside, I really like this video. It`s interesting and the music really helps it.
0
Reply
Male 130
I think it`s good, I mean i`d be happy to win a gold metal O_o
0
Reply
Male 8
ok splurbyburbl, you just wrote a common mistake which americans make when they talk about communism.
Communism doesn`t work that way. You CAN actualy choose in communism. I lived in communism, and it was cool: everything was payed by the government including college and healthcare. So stop bs-ing about things you know nothing about. And as for this video, try remembering that one thing you had to do to please your parents but felt absolutely horrible for doing that, like going to a church or playing the piano.
0
Reply
Male 102
first thing i thought after watching this: THIS COUNTRY CALLED AMERICA THAT I LIVE IN, NEEDS TO PUT DOWN THAT [email protected] BACON CHEESEBURGER YOU FAT pooS, i mean wtf, i go down to north carolina and all i see are fat motherfu<kers and 50,000 people crammed in a mcdonalds, AMERICA: LOSE SOME FU<KING WEIGHT, THIS MESSAGE IS ADRESSED TO PEOPLE WHO CANT SEE THEIR FU<KIN CROTCH AND SWEAT WALKING
0
Reply
Male 702
Doesn`t seem any more or less intense than when i worked as a circus performer. Gymnasts and acrobats know the pain AND the reward that comes with it. you think these children are hurt? imagine how hurt they`d be when they`re older if they weren`t pushed hard and lost out to those who put in the extra mile.
Long story short, if you haven`t done this kinda training then you really don`t understand enough to say whether it`s right or wrong.
Oh, fyi, this has nothing to do with it being China, American gymnasts are pushed just as brutally.
0
Reply
Male 759
I bet Portishead are thrilled that they`ve been chosen as the soundtrack.

Cause the child roses like,
Try to reveal what I could feel,
I can`t understand myself anymore,
Cause I`m still feeling lonely,
Feeling so unholy.

0
Reply
Male 2,796
This isnt a case of child abuse... it`s a case of Communism. The makers of this film are just showing children to more easily tug at heart strings. Chinese Government will tell its citizens what they are going to do with their lives and some are lucky enough to be gymnists... trust me, there are far, far worse things than being made to get into the best shape of your life, be strong and healthy and compete in games... they could be made to work in mines or factories for little pay and little health benefits.
0
Reply
Female 2,289
This is about physical pain and im sure not all the kids in that video were enjoying it and the parents didn`t have to be non-nice individuals. A kid can still be all he/she wants to be when they grow up... they don`t have to start training at age 4/5/6.
0
Reply
Female 2,289
"I see people complaining about their children showing pain and tears, but what of our children? Our kids cry and feel hurt when they don`t get the candybar they wanted or when our adults force them to eat the food that they`ve prepared. Is that child abuse too?"
----------------------------------------

That is COMPLETELY different. Do you think the majority in this forum would be complaining if it were a video of that? thank you. This has NOTHING to do with a child not getting the candybar they wanted or any of that, and you comparing this to THAT makes me go "wtf?"

0
Reply
Female 519
This is a tough one.. Because If you want to be the best then you ideally need to train from the day you can walk until adulthood... But what child would honestly say they want to do this rather than have a childhood? I`m betting not one of them.. but its the price they pay for their parents goals.. But without parents like these forcing their children into sports we would not have the athletes we have now.. You think this is bad, look at the Russian training.. Ouch.
0
Reply
Male 606
Uh...yeah, working hard is great and all that, but were any of you saying this is okay WATCHING between about 1 and 3 minutes? Not saying you shouldn`t push your kids to work harder sometimes, but a literal kick in the head because they`re not doing something exactly right seems to qualify as abuse to me...
0
Reply
Female 28
Some of it did just look like training hard, however, if the kid ever wants to stop or quit, it should be their choice. This isn`t something that`s crucial to a child`s development like education. This is a hobby, and if the child honestly does not want to do it anymore and the parent forces them to then that`s just the parent being selfish, regardless of any `it`s for your own good` excuses. So no, I don`t think it`s the same as whining about doing homework or cleaning a room. It`s intense physical exertion, and if the child doesn`t want it, the parents should let them stop.
0
Reply
Male 716
I laugh at you all.

While, yes, it is good, nay vital, to work hard for a goal in life, making a child suffer and forcing them to do something just because you want them to win (hey, do you really think every single crying kid there wants to be a gymnast? Many were probably chosen due to physique alone.) is a terrible thing. To breed another person for your own goal is a form of slavery. To raise them adequetly in all skills and then let them decide which they want to persue to a higher degree is to let a human actually be a human, and not your country`s tool to getting a shiny medal.

0
Reply
Male 328
Watched it, thought eh, they are just training really hard, when its all said and done they will probably be the ones standing atop the winners podium`s while everyone complaining about child abuse, they`re kids are getting an award for being there cause they finished last.
Kids need direction and when they don`t like it you have to push them harder, or else you`ll be explaining to them that it`s alright they finished last cause they are special just because they are there. Not saying you chop off their skin when they mess up but sometimes they just don`t want to do it and you have to show them the way you want them to go.
0
Reply
Male 1,399
Ha ha ha...you people.

Have your kids ever cried because they didn`t want to do their homework? Mow the lawn? Clean their room? Did you make them do it anyway? CHILD ABUSE!

I`m so glad we`re enlightened now, and that kids can raise themselves in "Time Out."

0
Reply
Male 471
All the people complaining are just afraid for their countries when Glorious China sweeps them in the Olympics. They scream "child abuse" so their countries will do better.
0
Reply
Male 17
shat
0
Reply
Male 516
You guys are all being insanely ethnocentric. This is how things are run over there, and it`s how their society is. I see people complaining about their children showing pain and tears, but what of our children? Our kids cry and feel hurt when they don`t get the candybar they wanted or when our adults force them to eat the food that they`ve prepared. Is that child abuse too?

Think about what these children are training for and what they will potentially achieve. Worldwide fame? National respect and admiration? There ARE perks to their suffering. Do you think it should be easy to be the best in the world?

It may seem wrong to you that these people can treat their children this way, but to others it also may seem wrong that we`re so lax on our children.

0
Reply
Female 2,289
I understand all of the hard work crap, but the thing is... does it even look like the kids want to do it? Or do you think they`re doing it because they`re parents are making them. Think about that. That`s the only reason why it peed me off.
0
Reply
Female 999
That`s not abuse! I was in gymnastics when I was little and the flexibility isn`t a prollem. It`s how kids are, especially if they`ve been doing it for a while. When he kicked that guy in the head, he obviously didn`t kick very hard, the kid`s head didn`t even move. I don`t understand why these people think hard work is abuse. Buncha fat, lazy slops. Great things take hard work. Sometimes my kid whines and cries just to whine and cry.

And yes, I`m American.

0
Reply
Male 1,190
As far as all the moronic statements about China, try living there for a few years before you open your mouth, otherwise you sound like the Ugly American, with the requisite lack of a passport and no experience living outside Planet America.
0
Reply
Male 373
bloody hell
0
Reply
Male 1,190
LOL, these kids are going to run your kids lives, because you kids can not be pulled away from the Xbox, and cry when their favorite TV star dies on a show!
If you think this is something, how about that movie 300, which featured Spartans, who were sent out into the wild to survive or die at the age of 10. Not to mention their relations with their "mentor".

Point is that you can not and should not judge another culture by your own cultures set of rules and beliefs. You think your principles are universal, but 1) they are not and 2) there is no universal set of values.

Enjoy,
S*D

0
Reply
Male 243
I quit gymnastics when i was twelve and i could do all of this stuff for at least 3-4 years before i left, its not that crazy, the fact that there throwing the kids around its nuts though
0
Reply
Male 656
holy crap!
A. it`s abuse.
B. Those kids (though abused) are freaking amazing...
0
Reply
Female 4
Child abuse here, but no in China. Can`t really argue with the results on an athletic standpoint.
0
Reply
Female 83
Uh...yeah I don`t quite remember them being this tough on the Romanian Gymnasts in the 70s. Pretty pathetic. No wonder so many youths try to commit suicide over there.
0
Reply
Male 92
Wal-Mart digs child labor. Ergo, not so different, them and all of you for advocating such.
Not saying that it`s bad, but it`s just that all of you are horrified at this prospect, just had to point out stuff that is quite closer to `home` than you think.
0
Reply
Female 4,039
That was quite a post. Poor Chinese kids. They`re so flippin` cute.
0
Reply
Male 438
love that song.
0
Reply
Female 1,604
I knew that China started their kids really really young to be gymnasts and I knew they were a little hard on them I never knew it was this bad. I have to agree with Ltimelurker that is just plain child abuse.
and seeing the below comments I am not even going to go back and see how walmart got involved in this conversation.
0
Reply
Male 684
and just what will happen when china decides to call in all those American debts its been buying up?
I think its hilarious how American culture lulls us into delusions of grandeur.Americas ability to mass produce won ww2, it gave us a huge advantage in the world market.Now we have other people produce our goods.We still produce technology, but the money is in production and distribution, not R&D.Our main production has become debt, and China is our greatest consumer.Do yourselves a favor, learn to read and write kanji and learn to speak mandarin....
0
Reply
Male 10,440
child abuse? Nah. I disagree. That`s the way things are done over there.

Also, wtf does this have to do with wal-mart?

0
Reply
Female 723
Plain Child Abuse.

Most of those children were crying in pain.

0
Reply
Male 7,378
"Wal-Mart tries to buy American made products whenever it can."
--------------
Wal-Mart requires such severe price cutting from it`s manufacturers that they have a choice. Don`t sell to the worlds largest retailer or move your American company to China and abuse it`s labor force so red-necks back home can have a cheap flat screen TV.
0
Reply
Male 17,511
"Time to stop shopping at Wal-Mart people."

First off, China was doing this long before Wal-Mart became popular. Secondly, Wal-Mart tries to buy American made products whenever it can. Thirdly, Taking a swipe at capitalism via some Wal-Mart/China conspiracy you believe to exist does not nor ever will help children there.

0
Reply
Female 158
I didnt see wat was wrong till i saw those guys bending those poor little girls... awful. absoloute torture! D:
0
Reply
Male 92
"No way would my child go thru this pain and torture!!! I coul;dnt watch it all. Being a mom it was hard to watch this children in pain"

Time to stop shopping at Wal-Mart people. You`re all still part of the problem similar to this. And that`s from a shallow judgement based on the trend here. Carry on tho ^^.

0
Reply
Male 905
/cry
0
Reply
Female 311
do not like.
0
Reply
Female 64
No way would my child go thru this pain and torture!!! I coul;dnt watch it all. Being a mom it was hard to watch this children in pain
0
Reply
Male 101
whats the song?
0
Reply
Male 92
I smell propaganda.
0
Reply
Male 3,332
"I`d never let my kids go through that, for sure."

I`m not sure you`d have the choice in China.

PS: If I`m the judge, I give this video a 0.9

0
Reply
Male 17,511
"I`d never let my kids go through that, for sure."

These kids are taken from their parents and trained in special `schools` far away from their homes. The parents never see this abuse and even if they did they`d think it was a just sacrifice to win glory for China.

0
Reply
Male 1,929
Well if you want to be someone amongst 1 billion people you have to practice early. You`l be grateful for it when you`re really famous and have big cars. If it doesn`t work, you`ll be no-one and be worthless and you should have tried harder. So get out of that cot and go and practice! You can have fun when you`re older and you have earned it!

/drated up parents in a drated up culture

0
Reply
Male 394
The most hilarious part about this is they`re sometimes beaten by Western athletes, who don`t get as abused since childhood.

Chinese training methods fail!

0
Reply
Male 17,511
China has an inferiority complex that goes back a long long time. They feel they most prove to the world they are the best. This video is only part of the misery inflicted on children in China. Remember these kids are the `lucky` ones, That even get the chance to train. Any flaw or failure is reason for punishment, They do not see it as an opportunity to teach. All this torture and more, Just to acquire Olympic gold medals.
0
Reply
Male 4,393
Future gold medalists and child abuse :(
0
Reply
Female 27
Those children have to play with toys, not with the gymnastics!
0
Reply
Male 490
Oh don`t get me wrong, I view that as wrong as well!

I was simply stating that from their perspective, only some of that video was unnecessarily cruel (I do believe, anyway; I hope the culture still sees some of that as cruel).

I`d never let my kids go through that, for sure.

0
Reply
Male 394
"Some of it is a tad abusive, like the kicking and whatnot. Otherwise, this is also a major culture difference."

Perhaps. Then again that makes their culture stupid, backwards, and well, retarded. You can`t blame injustice on "cultural differences". That`s just smug.

0
Reply
Female 1,158
ugh. that`s so wrong.

call it a cultural difference if you must, but our reactions aren`t a product of ethnocentrism. our reactions are fed by the tears of these children. hardcore training is great, but not if it causes children agony like that.

0
Reply
Male 4,593
Looks like fun.
0
Reply
Male 970
child abuse it is
0
Reply
Male 490
Some of it is a tad abusive, like the kicking and whatnot. Otherwise, this is also a major culture difference.
0
Reply
Male 4,745
Run of the mill child abuse there, folks.
0
Reply
Female 1,112
Poor kids. Thats just not right.
0
Reply
Male 3,431
Yeah, that would be child abuse.
0
Reply
Male 3,255
Just child abuse.
0
Reply
Male 203
no pain no gain
0
Reply
Male 4,807
Link: Chinese Gymnast Training [Video] [Rate Link] - Future gold medalists or just plan old child abuse? You be the judge.
0
Reply