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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    November 6, 2009 at 3:27 pm
    Link: What Are We Doing To Ourselves? - Something good in Minnesota: Addressing world climate change.
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    Spirithound Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 6:17 am
    uh oh...a conservative on IAB...the 4th sign of the apocalypse!!
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 6:21 am
    he lost me about the first minute. when he stated that there was no climate change and if there was we wouldnt be the cause. after he said that everything sounded like fox news to me.
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    kimkio Female 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 6:25 am
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    roariamadino Male 18-29
    270 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 6:31 am
    can someone explain what the penguin just said, I wasn`t listening
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    roariamadino Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 6:34 am
    can someone explain what the penguin just said, I wasn`t listening
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    MOTBO Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 6:36 am

    So as soon as you hear something you disagree with you shut it out? Even if I don`t agree with something I still know there is knowledge to gain and to make an judgment on an argument that you have not listened to is ignorant(no offence)

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    screaminbean Male 13-17
    363 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 6:40 am
    My god, what a dick. Why are people freaking out over Obama? I mean really. He`s no Communist. He`s not even that Liberal. All these people need to just settle down a bit. Oh, and btw, climate change is indeed an issue that needs to be addressed. Rather urgently as well.
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    djlazar Male 30-39
    185 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 6:49 am
    Screaminbean imparts his 13 to 17 years of wisdom upon us...
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    slugs Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2009 at 6:49 am
    Why do liberals think they know what climate the Earth wants to be? The Earth was here before libs and it will be here after, stop thinking you are god.
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    slugs Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2009 at 6:53 am
    BTW, I`m not a conservative or a liberal, but an independent thinker. Use your brain think, not what the media tells you think. If you know anything about geology and the Earth, you know climate change has been going on long before humans ever existed.
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2009 at 6:58 am
    Innerestin, we need an opposing view.
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    TopperHey Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 7:05 am
    wow, what a scaremongering douche trying to bullpoo his agenda across. Apparently america and the world are going to be enslaved by a little climate treaty. After all the wars, dictators and economic crunches, THIS is going to be what finally brings America down.

    I don`t think he actually made a point during that. Just put on a white sheet and went "ooooOOooo""

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    thubanstar Female 40-49
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    November 7, 2009 at 7:12 am
    Hey, just ask a Native American... We`re great at breaking treaties! I don`t see a problem here.
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    Erunen Male 18-29
    190 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 7:29 am
    Striking speech. I would like to see the treaty myself if that were possible. And as SilverThread said, we do need an opposing view.
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    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2009 at 7:30 am
    Of COURSE Obama will sign the Copenhagen Treaty.

    He`ll sign anything to be liked.

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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 7:32 am
    pffff.... drama queen -.-

    Agrere with screamingbean... but damm what could a 13 to 17 knowledged person have to say? i mean... we are simply just the future.

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    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2009 at 7:37 am
    BTW, search for "Copenhagen Treaty" to find the text itself.

    Pay special attention to the "Compliance" section.

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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2009 at 7:43 am
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2009 at 7:50 am
    I think it`s funny the way the right wing people were calling left wing people crazy and stupid for creating conspiracy theories around Bush. Now, The left wing is in power and all the right wing folks have gone nutty with conspiracy theories.

    Everyone needs to settle down. Seriously folks. Whats so bad about decreasing pollution? Climate change? Who knows? None of you know for sure and if you claim you do, you are woefully under-informed.

    Put all the theories aside and let`s fix the pollution problem. I used to live near a steel plant. Trust me. Their pollution was very real. It coated everything for miles around.

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    SilentFray Female 18-29
    683 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 8:09 am
    IT`S A CYCLE!!!! Why doesn`t anybody realize that? A few years ago, scientist were studying the warming of the ground. Now the ground has cooled off and the air is warming up. It`s still too early to determine whether or not this is due to us or if its something nature does on its own. Same with the `hole in the ozone layer`. The whole has been growing and shrinking for years. Why is it our fault (it might not be) If you want to limit the amount of CO2 & Carbon Monoxide being released into the atmosphere, monitor the volcanoes. Honestly, Volcanoes shoot tons and tons more CO than any given country.

    Global warming is ALL politics and very little science. Don`t be fooled folks

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    sweetrebelnc Female 18-29
    847 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 8:10 am
    uhm...hello patchouly...

    its not about climate change. Its not about pollution. Its about money. We (americans, europeans and other global economic strongholds) are paying third world countries because they are not burning as much CO2 as us. and no1 can back out of the treaty unless all the parties agree. the potential for world war three is amazing.

    Does anyone pay attention to history. Thats how WWI started. All of europe was stuck in a treaty they couldnt get out of.

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    tp1212 Male 13-17
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    November 7, 2009 at 8:15 am
    OMG, the word government appears in there? I think that made me poop myself.
    2012 also appears quite a lot in there... IT MUST BE A PLOT TO END THE WORLD.
    my source:
    So, if you think I got the wrong document, please do tell.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 8:21 am
    I like what he says. What he considers extremely bad news beings me joy.

    This nut wants to turn America against the rest of the world. That would be bad. Very bad. Thankfully no one important listens to him.

    AND he`s sad because they`ll take some of his millions away and give it to the poor, or rather they`ll give it to save the planet. HA! Even if that were true, it would still be good news.

    I know quite a bit about climate change and I`ll tell you this, something needs to be done internationally and this treaty is a good move.

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10445 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 8:22 am
    patch > your link is broken.
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    quentinb Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 8:24 am
    @ screamingbean & company:
    I think the main reason people are against obama, including myself, is that instead of doing the things he campaigned for, the things most of america voted for, he`s spent the first year of his election doing things that either nobody cares about, or that people are against(or at least not for.) The one thing he did hold true to is "change". By the time he`s out, there`ll be change, for sure, I just don`t know if its what we`re going to like.

    As for this, I really can`t make a bias just listening to this guy, besides the fact that there`s no real information about it, it sounds like a lot of opinion as well. But I will say that I don`t think our nation needs to lock itself into more spending. yeah, yay for third world countries, but my country comes first, dammit.

    And that`s all I`ve got to say about that.

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    ozmonkey Male 13-17
    41 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 8:42 am
    yeah yeah minnesota.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
    7366 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 8:42 am
    motbo, i have no problem listening to things that i disagree with. but this is no longer something to agree/disagree with. climate change is a fact, and if someone going to wave it off as leftist propaganda, then they are an ignorant. i personally, do not like to listen to the ramblings of the ignorant.
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    Seneca22 Female 18-29
    33 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 9:08 am
    I agree something needs to be done to stabilize Earth`s climate. We should be able to control every aspect of our environment in order to ensure continuity of our species. However, I would like the approach to be more of an endeavor in science then some money re-distribution guise. I wonder what options are out there. How about instead of paying off countries because we pollute more, we collectively spend that money on research that eliminates the problem all together.
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    Jensito Male 18-29
    22 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 9:11 am
    Erm. If any of you watched this, this isn`t just about climate change.

    He`s saying, by signing this treaty, our President is creating a world government, which (according to a few major religions) is a sign for the end times. (Although, that`s not the point of this.)

    By us GIVING third world countries money, we`re becoming marxist. World government, taking money away from the country as a whole and giving it to poor countries, they both reek of socialism. =(
    Even if it`s for climate change, I`m personally against it. I rather not give away my hard earned money to people I`ll never meet, thanks.

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    Antonin Male 18-29
    72 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 9:11 am
    LazyMe484: I don`t think that is his point. The point is that people should have the freedom to give their money to who ever they please. Many people already help 3rd world countries, and there is already a movement happening within our culture to be more environmentally safe.

    The reason why I think he opposes the treaty, and why I definitely do as well, is because it puts way too much power in the hands of too small a minority of people in this world. The PEOPLE of Earth should make the effort to save it, not power-hungry politicians.

    This of course is not going to be an over-night change, but the end result of a natural movement of culture will yield betters results than a rash act of misplaced desperation.

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    Baelzar Male 40-49
    1399 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 9:21 am
    Darn those pesky emerging industrialized nations....China and India, anyone?

    Think they`ll sign? Think they`ll cripple their economies or manufacturing capacities with Cap-n-Tax legislation? No?

    Neither do I. The treaty is a joke, and he shouldn`t sign it.

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 9:49 am
    Antonin > Its not your personal decision as to where your tax money goes to begin with. The only way you could be against it is because now some of your tax money will likely not be spent in the US.

    The pressure is on you to either elect a government that will tax those who produce the emissions fairly.

    Here in Canada we have a carbon tax, whoever emits has to pay. If you can afford it, you can emit, if you can`t then you`ve got to stop. And it doesn`t end with industries. When you`re buying a new car, you`re either paying a levy or getting a credit based the car`s emission performance.

    This treaty will act as a financial incentive to anyone who signs it, to reduce emissions. In my humble opinion however, China and India will end up paying an amount on the same order as the US, and they are a lot poorer.

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    Subushie Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 9:51 am
    im glad the rest of the world doesnt see the problem that this one guy sees. why doesnt he become the leader of the world??? he should apply for a mcauther grant. because the rest of the worlds leaders do not see the issues with the treaty that this one genius see`s. oh how blissful ignorance can be.

    sure this guy sounds like he knows what he`s talking about. but in reality, he is just a really good speaker. he didnt address how they are going to create a world government. he didnt address anything for that matter. he simply quoted Winston Churchill and made himself look like a flipping god among men. really people, learn to see through the bullpoo that some people try to feed you. just because they have a British accent doesnt make them smart.

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    keith2 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 9:56 am
    yeah... i`d like to see any other country TRY n stop us from getting out of a shatty treaty. one world government? come on, everyone knows where that conversation is trying to go..
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    patticakes Female 18-29
    458 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 9:59 am
    Trying to stabilize climate is as stupid as trying to have an effect on the weather. It`s all about having control over industries and people. And Global Warming is a hoax. Al Gore will fry in Hell just like father who sold the same cattle twice. A family of scoundrels.
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    apolloapk Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 10:35 am
    i say do it. if it does end up building a communist world that doesnt work and takes our freedom, people will just revolt. thats how the world works, thats the point of the unalienable rights, they cannot be taken away, by this or any other government. now i wouldnt put life in that list as jefferson did, but liberty cannot be taken from the masses simply because the masses will change the way things are if they try it.
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    AnwarNova Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 10:46 am

    You don`t get it. China and India are not going to sign something that will curb their industries. They`re the biggest and fastest growing economies in the world and they`re not going to start curbing their emissions anytime soon. You may ask why:

    It`s because in the last couple of decades, Europe has gotten greener. It`s done this by getting rid of a lot of their dirty industries—factories and power plants that create a ton of carbon. You know what it did to those factories and plants? It sold them to China. They didn`t get rid of them, they just moved them half way across the globe. Now suddenly Europe is like "Oooh, we`re all green, why can`t the rest of the world be green like us." =] funny huh?

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    Antonin Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 11:50 am
    Couldn`t agree more, AnwarNova.
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    Nebbie Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 12:06 pm
    "one world government? come on, everyone knows where that conversation is trying to go.."

    Star Trek?

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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2009 at 12:29 pm
    NO ones gonna listen, no point commenting!
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    npdarren Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 1:25 pm
    yeah, if it causes more problems than it solves, people will revolt or do w/e. I doubt the world will stand idly by while everything goes to sh*t.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2009 at 3:51 pm
    "Global warming" and the new term "Climate change" are the biggest outright frauds ever perpetrated.
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    sunwavewind Female 18-29
    690 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 4:55 pm
    But the money going to developing countries is an investment to help them use and develop greener technology. It`s so that as they develop they don`t follow on the same unsustainable path as the developed countries when we were first developing a long time ago. Like the clean development mechanism in the Kyoto protocol.
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    motelfan Female 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 5:30 pm
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    saintnick Male 13-17
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    November 7, 2009 at 5:48 pm
    can`t believe it, someone posted this. this is iab still right?

    if this is signed by barry, ostensibly the constitution becomes a by-law & is meaningless to the new world order & guess who, yes you will be the new subject of international order. so that`s how democracy ends, with thunderous applause.

    betcha always thought it would be a conservative that did this, didn`t yah. even Keyser Söze couldn`t convince the world liberals didn`t exist.

    welcome to nineteen eighty four

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    gorgack2000 Male 13-17
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    November 7, 2009 at 5:50 pm
    Would everyone just shut up about politics. Please. We`ve got a world to save here.
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    Mondo48 Male 18-29
    138 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 5:58 pm
    hail obama. wooooooo.
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    Piepig Male 13-17
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    November 7, 2009 at 7:04 pm
    Um... Is this real?
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    jkuroneko Female 18-29
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    November 7, 2009 at 7:18 pm
    I wish more people realized exactly what this man just said.

    To anyone who supports such movements towards the redistribution of wealth, I sincerely hope you also don`t mind a substantially lower standard of living for all of us in this nation. So say goodbye to your extra spending cash, your nice new car, being able to save up YOUR OWN money to live comfortably; because big government like ours doesn`t think you deserve to keep the money you earn for yourself.

    Also simply throwing more money at something doesn`t mean it`ll improve. There must be a properly fully laid out plan and guidance-- something that politicians (who`s only concern is reputation during their short few year term and nothing further) Will never embrace.

    True global success begins with private funding, dedicated philanthropists, and blooming businesses that can provide jobs and growth in lesser developed nations. Discipline is not developed when money is simply given, but when it is earned with dedication.

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    jkuroneko Female 18-29
    73 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 7:22 pm
    Sorry, last thing, just couldn`t resist. Ignorant quote of the day:

    "Would everyone just shut up about politics. Please. We`ve got a world to save here."

    I`d hate to break it to you, but politics IS living in a society with other human beings. I doubt you`d get much planet saving accomplished in anarchy.

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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2009 at 7:48 pm
    > What are we doing to ourselves

    That`s right, blame me...

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    NightQueen Female 18-29
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    November 8, 2009 at 12:01 am
    ok, right lets just listen to anyone with a british accent and decent oration skills. ALL this treaty is doing can be summed up like this:
    "hey america its china, and japan. you promised in that treaty you signed that you would keep your carbon emissions below *some number* well were going to have to PUT AN EXTRA TAX ON YOUR GOODS. thats right america...YOUR beef jerky will cost 2 dollars and fifty cents more a pound than polands, because poland has been good and green"
    there is no enforcing other than countries imposing extra "pollution taxes" on imports from america.
    OMG NOOOOOO!!!!!!!
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    xxsmudgexx41 Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2009 at 12:41 am
    besides here i`ve heard nothing about this treaty. throwing our money at other countries doesn`t sound good at all.
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    defiythelie Male 18-29
    230 posts
    November 8, 2009 at 1:02 am
    this guy is right i have read bits and peaces of the treaty my self and it talks of creating a global council that will hold power thru government, economic, and military. The military part is all ready in place " NATO" the economic part is too " world bank " the only thing that is left is the government part. so have said the the U.N. will take on that roll but by what this doc. says every nation will have to give up troops to NATO and every government is instantly a member of the U.N. on top of that another group will be put in to place to control the 3 arms of this world government.
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    Qwertyuiop95 Male 18-29
    215 posts
    November 8, 2009 at 1:19 am
    Yes, we should all make a dictatorship to control the earth and transfer wealth over. We should also sell the Vatican to end world hunger.
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    Kougaiji Male 18-29
    604 posts
    November 8, 2009 at 9:29 am
    Yeah, like i`m going to believe someone from the "Free Market Institute"
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    HarryBalszak Male 40-49
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    November 8, 2009 at 10:42 am
    "sure this guy sounds like he knows what he`s talking about. but in reality, he is just a really good speaker."

    That reminds me of someone else...

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    srgkoala Male 18-29
    299 posts
    November 8, 2009 at 11:23 am
    I actually like the idea of a world government, it would allow means of upholding international laws.
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
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    November 8, 2009 at 4:23 pm
    "There is nothing wrong with the climate. Here - I`ll prove it by quoting Winston Churchill..."

    Douchebaggery proven, that`s what.

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    last_ninja Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2009 at 5:17 pm
    i`m confused. i think we would`ve heard about a single communist world government treaty before they signed it.
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    XbigXmommaX Female 18-29
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    November 8, 2009 at 9:41 pm
    there`s nothing wrong with the climate!? is this guy insane? i have a really hard time believing that he is a climate change expert if he doesn`t put into account the runaway greenhouse effect
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    Andicicle Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2009 at 11:47 pm
    B-O-G-U-S B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T
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    Murcu Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2009 at 7:16 am
    lol I love how you`ve all made this about climate change. You know, he actually said he and his friends helped found the organizations to combat global warming. Granted, he then makes the (unlikely) claim that Communists from East Berlin stole it from him, it still isn`t the focus of his speech.
    The focus (I hope I don`t need to explain) is the idea of the creation of a world government, which, according the Marx, is the grand ideal for Communism.
    Still, it all seems rather silly. Any global government will most likely deal with world trade rather than anything else. Doubtful that whatever "Enforcement" he mentions actually will effect local businesses. But who knows? I haven`t read the thing.
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    cman7721 Male 18-29
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    November 9, 2009 at 9:37 pm
    hey, minnesota! whoo! and big momma been readin` too many high school text books, i guess.
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    fanbelt Male 50-59
    49 posts
    November 19, 2009 at 11:34 am
    There`s a new religion in town and green is its color. if you don`t join up, you will be crucified under the guise of crimes against humanity. We have officially gone insane as a society.
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    flingspoo Female 18-29
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    January 11, 2010 at 10:36 am
    Big momma: You`re a tard.
    The whole "global warming" thing is and was BS.
    At least you`re not old enough to vote yet.
    We do, however need to be good stewards to what we have.

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