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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    November 5, 2009 at 1:41 pm
    Link: Dear Atheists Who Enjoy Low, Low Prices - Maybe you should start being a little more grateful to ``You Know Who`` at all that money you`ve been saving.
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    britt566 Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 1:46 pm
    Seriously? An arrow to point it out?
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    murrymalty Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 1:46 pm
    lol i loved safeway
    ^^example
    damn morrisons :@
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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 1:46 pm
    Is there anything Christ DIDN`T die for?! I`m quite glad he died actually, otherwise this world would be a fricking mess.
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    canusuck Male 30-39
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    November 5, 2009 at 1:50 pm
    If this is for real-wow-but no surprise really as Christmas is the worst example of a "religious" event
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    OhNoFrodo Male 30-39
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    November 5, 2009 at 1:51 pm
    Well "thanks" Jesus for making us fat and giving us all diabetes....ya git!!!
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    Crawdaddy197 Male 30-39
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    November 5, 2009 at 1:52 pm
    Freakin` awesome. I have to know who the genius is that made that sign.
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    Crawdaddy197 Male 30-39
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    November 5, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    "Is there anything Christ DIDN`T die for?! I`m quite glad he died actually, otherwise this world would be a fricking mess."

    I`m sure he wasn`t dieing to get his hands nailed to that cross.

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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 1:54 pm
    He sure did!!!
    *ouch these nails in my hands and thorns in my scalp sure do hurt..... I hope people 2000 years from now will worship me..... oh and chocolate chips are under a buck*
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    ZacchNasty Male 13-17
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    November 5, 2009 at 1:57 pm
    Well that gave me a dandy lol good post Fancy
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:00 pm
    In the name of the sale, the discount and the holy rebate.
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    Trexa Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:07 pm
    It`d be a sin not to laugh at that.
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    wrexsoull Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:10 pm
    Why would atheists care about Easter? Heck, I don`t even see why they care about Christmas. Both are religious holidays, so if you don`t believe in Christ, then you are not allowed to celebrate it. I don`t care if these holidays have been commercialized, extolling greed and selfishness, you still can`t celebrate them if you aren`t Christian. Atheists have to celebrate atheist holidays, such as Kwanzaa.
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    TheSharpest Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:12 pm
    If you don`t buy their stuff then you hate Jesus. You are worse than Hitler, times ten.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:19 pm
    So, they`re saying that their prices are a sin? That`s not exactly a good message to be giving your customers.
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    StarDagger Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    At least this is accurate, He died, period. The rest of the fairy tale is what gets them in trouble.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:23 pm
    I gotta say that using Christ`s name to sell groceries is not a good thing.
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    BigWaFuu Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    "In the name of the sale, the discount and the holy rebate."

    LOL

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    Chaos7 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:28 pm
    I should go to Safeway more often.
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    kaffebaggel Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:32 pm
    Yes, christmas is exclusively christian and should only be celebrated by christians. All those midwinter celebrations that preceeded it were blaspheming parodies of an, as of yet, not invented sacred holiday of presents, tinsel and eggnog. damn them! DAMN THEM TO HELL!!!
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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:34 pm
    Wrexsoul, don`t know how much you know about Christianity, but Christmas and Easter are both Pagan holidays. Yup, Christianity just got their hands on it and "made them" Christian. Jesus was probably born in January actually.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:40 pm
    i thought he died for your sins, but whatever you want to believe now.
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    wrexsoull Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:41 pm
    I already know that Jesus wasn`t born on Dec. 25. My religion (Latter Day Saints) actually believe he was born on April 6th (look it up if you don`t believe me). I`m just saying, Christmas and Easter are holidays that only good Christians can celebrate. Lets just say, it is one of the perks of being a Christian.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:42 pm
    Our prices are so low, it`s sinful!
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    Adamam Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:42 pm
    You have Safeway in US? It got bought out over here O_o it was such a lovely place :(
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    jackyface Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:46 pm
    LOLOLOLOL
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:46 pm
    Christmas and Easter are both Pagan holidays. Yup, Christianity just got their hands on it and "made them" Christian. Jesus was probably born in January actually.

    You`re right about the holy days, neither of which have anything at all to do with Christianity. They didn`t even change the name of Easter (the main holy day for Oestre, same pronunciation)!

    But the only records of Jesus` birth are in the Christian bible and they make January unlikely too.

    Just after harvest could work - the sheep would still be in the fields at night, it would be an appropriate time for a census to cause the least disruption to the empire and it fits the accounts of the birth of John, the conception of Jesus and a pregnancy of average length.

    But no-one really knows.

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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:46 pm
    Well either way, loads of people celebrate it. Hell, even some of my Muslim friends celebrate the spirit of Christmas, it`s a time when everyone`s happy.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:52 pm
    Why would atheists care about Easter? Heck, I don`t even see why they care about Christmas. Both are religious holidays,

    True, but neither are Christian religious holidays. Christmas is basically Christianity stealing another religion`s holy day and renaming it, like a car thief respraying a stolen car. With Easter, Christianity didn`t even bother with that. It`s a fertility festival for Oestre (pronounced `Easter`), hence the eggs (symbol of female fertility, as Oestre was female) and rabbits (another fertility symbol)

    So by your own argument, Christians shouldn`t be allowed to celebrate Christmas or Easter because they`re not Christian holy days.

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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 2:55 pm
    Good old armchair experts. Christ definitely wasn`t born in January, because shepherds were sleeping out in the fields with their flocks at the time, something they didn`t do in midwinter. Duh.

    Based on a lot of evidence and research, the general consensus is that He was born on 20th of May, between 7 and 4 BC.

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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 3:05 pm
    Based on a lot of evidence and research, the general consensus is that He was born on 20th of May, between 7 and 4 BC.

    Heehee, Christ was born 4 to 7 years Before Christ. Humans are funny.

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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    November 5, 2009 at 3:28 pm
    What kind of census requires an entire population to schlep back to their place of birth? There`s no record of the Romans ever doing something so disruptive.

    And if it was Joseph`s home town, why would he need an inn? We are told it was a big family, with cousins and all.

    I suspect it`s all a myth.

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 3:30 pm
    Christmas and Easter are holidays that only good Christians can celebrate. Lets just say, it is one of the perks of being a Christian.

    "NO ONE CAN CELEBRATE THIS BUT ME!" Yea... your sort of attitude went out of fashion a century ago.

    I can`t imagine what your complaint is, as both of those holidays have completely lost their meaning to materialism anyway, not to mention them not being originally christian.

    To a previous comment you made... Kwanzaa has nothing to do with atheism.

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    dragonshadoz Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 3:33 pm
    What a sad thing to get nailed up for...
  35. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 3:33 pm
    Back to the picture...I`m assuming people realise it`s a fake. Someone has printed the "Christ died for our prices" message and stuck it over the middle of a Safeway ad.
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    Godzillasaur Male 13-17
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    November 5, 2009 at 3:41 pm
    Maybe you should start being a little more grateful to ``You Know Who``

    Voldemort?

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 3:45 pm
    What kind of census requires an entire population to schlep back to their place of birth? There`s no record of the Romans ever doing something so disruptive.

    Precisely. It would disrupt the efficient running of the province, which would benefit no-one. It would also annoy the locals, who were prone to revolt anyway. If a governer ordered something so detrimental to the empire, they`d have to answer to the emperor.

    And if it was Joseph`s home town, why would he need an inn? We are told it was a big family, with cousins and all.

    Good point. One of his relatives would surely have put them up, especially with Mary about to give birth.

    I suspect it`s all a myth.

    So do I. Made up decades, maybe even centuries, later to make Jesus seem more mystical.

    Maybe they wanted to big him up to something fairly close to Mithra, as Mithraism was the religion Christianity was trying to usurp.

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    AcidicLemons Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 3:47 pm
    o____o?
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    WHOISIT12345 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 4:15 pm
    O.o
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    Turnshroud Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 4:18 pm
    *nods*

    I like how somtimes we can talk about religion all cool like without starting a flame war

    Anyways, how would we accoyunt for the so called New Testement? The writtings of a crazed man? 100% made up stories?

    Also, I don`t like how Christmas is becoming a solely Christian holiday
    1) Chistmas has nothing to do with God
    2) The Constitution claims that all religions are welcome, Christians and nonChristians alike
    3) Over time Christmas lost its original `meaning` and vecame a time of gioving, why should we regress now?

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    akijade Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 4:22 pm
    Aaaahahahaha. I love Safeway.
  42. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 4:23 pm
    Based on a lot of evidence and research, the general consensus is that He was born on 20th of May, between 7 and 4 BC.

    I`ve seen a good argument for late August and for early September.

    Here, for example, is a theological argument for Jesus being born on the 15th of Tishri (they would, of course, have used the Jewish calendar). What date that is in the Gregorian calendar depends on what year Jesus was born in (the Jewish calendar is lunar and doesn`t match up with the Gregorian calendar, which is solar).

    http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/i...

    I think the author is too eager to fit Jesus` birthday with the start of Tabernacle. It`s apt, but it relies on assumptions about the exact day of two conceptions and the exact length of one pregnancy.

    It also starts off with an apt by Deuteronomy, which puts most of the foundation of Christianity in di

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 4:23 pm
    It also starts off with an apt by Deuteronomy, which puts most of the foundation of Christianity in direct conflict with an order from their god. That`s an interesting point.


    Dammit, fix the bloody character length bug!

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    shinsvaka Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 4:26 pm
    actually. there is no evidence for christs existence at all.
    lern2evidence
    f*ggots
  45. Profile photo of akijade
    akijade Female 18-29
    1006 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 4:27 pm
    So with all of this "Only Christians can celebrate Christmas" stuff... I have a question.

    How many of you Christians submitted something for the halloween contest, or voted in the polls? How many of you are still chowing down on your Halloween candy?

    Yeah. That`s what I thought.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    3) Over time Christmas lost its original `meaning` and vecame a time of gioving, why should we regress now?

    A time of giving was always part of it. Christmas was essential the Christian takeover of Saturnalia and that was a time of giving.

    There have been many religious festivals at that time of year, but Saturnalia was the one targetted by Christianity because it was the main one in the Roman empire and Christianity was trying to take over the Roman empire (which it succeeded in doing).

    I do think that a secular festival should be given a different name, though. Just call it the midwinter festival or something. Exactly the same thing, with all the customs, but ditch the Christian name.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 4:36 pm
    actually. there is no evidence for christs existence at all.

    There is, indirectly:

    We know for a fact that a little under 2000 years ago there was a proposed reform of Judaism radical enough to split the religion into those who supported the reforms and those who didn`t. Someone must have started that by preaching the modified Judaism. The modified Judaism became a new offshoot religion - Christianity.

    We know for a fact that within a few decades after that, followers of the new religion believed that it was started by a single person who they called "the anointed one". The Greek word for that title stuck - Christos (transliterated into our alphabet, obviously).

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    The_tru_bob Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:04 pm
    @akijade, Halloween is a mixture between a Christian holiday and a pagan holiday, ever heard of All Saints day? Halloween got its name for that day (All Hallow`s eve). The actual going out for candy is where the pagans come in though.
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    k10josumm Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:16 pm
    arguing about religion is pointless. but OH SO FUN. specially when its with dumb people.
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    shinsvaka Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:18 pm
    thats not evidence at all. just because there was a split in Judaism doesnt mean christ ever existed.
    There is no documents, no historical evidence AT ALL. and the jews and romans were very good at keeping records.. why wouldnt they keep record of someone that important? He never existed, get over it and stop whining about your silly religions.
  51. Profile photo of shinsvaka
    shinsvaka Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:20 pm
    and just because it was split doesnt mean it became christianity. there is almost no evidence that christianity ever existed until around 100-200 AD.
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    ImmortalZach Male 13-17
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:25 pm
    I EVOLVED FOR MY PRICES!
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    shinsvaka Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:34 pm
    I WENT THROUGH ABIOGENESIS FOR MY PRICES!
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    Samsonite219 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:37 pm
    hahah
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:38 pm
    why, why, why does there always have to be a big argument anytime anything remotely religious comes on this site? its actually getting kind of annoying.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:53 pm
    actually. there is no evidence for christs existence at all.

    Actually, this is the one thing Atheists believe which pi**es me off the most, because its plain stupid. The debate is not and never has been about whether Jesus Christ existed, he did, period. His existence is documented not just in Christian circles but in thousands of completely secular sources too, in just about every record of any government or scholar from that time. There is no doubt whatsoever that he existed. The only thing open to debate is whether he was, or was not, the Son of God.

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    panth753 Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:55 pm
    Thank you cobrakiller, I never liked it, never will.
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    Joolin Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 5:57 pm
    "why, why, why does there always have to be a big argument anytime anything remotely religious comes on this site? its actually getting kind of annoying."

    That is the question that has plagued the entire internet since it first poked its tendrils through the surface of the slime mold in which it was cultivated.

    The answer, of course, is that all conversations will eventually devolve to the lowest common denominator, which in this case is religious "debate".

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    cha3370 Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 6:01 pm
    kudos lionheart
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    courtneyshea Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 6:05 pm
    ooh, chocolate chip.
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    Pilanus Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 6:19 pm
    Christ died for the prices at safeway? what a shame. I wouldn`t shop at safeway even if Christ was the cashier...
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    Nurcowski Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 6:25 pm
    redeeming the sins of humanity == low Safeway prices ?
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    We can debate all night long, OR DAMMIT PEOPLE WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SALE!
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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 6:40 pm
    ...Shouldn`t we be thanking the Romans, instead?
  65. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 6:43 pm
    His existence is documented not just in Christian circles but in thousands of completely secular sources too, in just about every record of any government or scholar from that time.

    That is not true. There are no contempory secular records of him at all. Why would there be? He wasn`t important at the time.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 6:48 pm
    hats not evidence at all. just because there was a split in Judaism doesnt mean christ ever existed.

    It`s good indirect evidence - someone must have preached the radical reforms that caused the split.

    There is no documents, no historical evidence AT ALL. and the jews and romans were very good at keeping records.. why wouldnt they keep record of someone that important?

    He wasn`t important at the time. The Romans didn`t much care what religious beliefs barbarians (i.e. anyone not Roman) had. There was quite a lot of religious freedom in the Roman republic and empire. Why would they record a minor disturbance in a province, stemming from barbarians disagreeing over details of a small-scale religion?

    He never existed, get over it and stop whining about your silly religions.

    I`m an atheist.

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    IslandLotus Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 7:03 pm
    If you are serious about not being ignorant of the matter... the following people have written non-christian/non-biblical references to Jesus in respected, historical documents of the time.

    1. Cornelius Tacitus (Roman historian who was considered the `greatest historian` of ancient Rome. Lived through reigns of over half a dozen emperors. Acclaimed works are The Annals and The Histories.)
    2. Lucian of Samosata
    3. Suetonius
    4. Pliny the Younger
    5. Thallus
    6. Phlegon
    7. Mara Bar-Serapion

    Jesus was a person who lived on this earth and who`s life and death have been recorded. It is up to you to decide if he was...

    1. A mental case believing himself the Son of God.
    2. Lying
    3. Telling the truth

    He could not just be a great man if he was either 1 or 2.

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    ByOwlPost Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 7:16 pm
    It`s funny how Safeway doesn`t know that easter started as a pagan celebration of fertility.

    Picking a fight with the whole Atheist comment was kind of un-cool in IAB`s part, but i guess all the flame wars are intended to keep this site interesting?

    I just come for the jokes that are actually funny.

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    goaliejerry Male 30-39
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    November 5, 2009 at 7:55 pm
    Thats funny
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    Shellie84 Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 8:20 pm
    christ died for chocolate chip filled goodies? AND they are on special you say??

    I`M THERE!

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    icecream2269 Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 8:27 pm
    lmfao!
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    November 5, 2009 at 8:27 pm
    Lotus, I`m going with #1 there.

    Same way as his mum was impregnated by God himself. Call me a skeptic who`s going to hell, but as a *NORMAL PERSON WHO CAN SEE THROUGH BILLSH*T*, I think it more likely that Mary had a roll in the hay with the stable-boy.

    You say blasphemer, I say bit of a slut which sparked a whole religion. It`s easily done.

    Life of Brian by the Monty Python crew, 20 years ago. If you haven`t seen it, educate yourself.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 8:33 pm
    1. Cornelius Tacitus

    Mentioned the existence of Christians near the end of the first century. Wasn`t even born until 55.

    2. Lucian of Samosata

    Mentioned the existence of Christians in the middle of the second century. Wasn`t even born until 120.

    3. Suetonius

    Referred to the expulsion of Jews from Rome in 49, so he wasn`t referring to Jesus. He wrote it in ~120.

    4. Pliny the Younger

    Confirmed the existence of Christians in 112.

    5. Thallus

    Some Christians a couple of hundred years later claimed that someone said that Thallus wrote something about Jesus. We know nothing about Thallus` writings.

    6. Phlegon

    Much the same as for Thallus

    7. Mara Bar-Serapion

    He mentioned various people from various times in a letter written long afterwards and containing historical errors. No actual mention of Jesus, anyway.

  74. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 8:35 pm
    So some of the sources you quote confirm that Christians existed at the end of the 1st century and the rest confirm nothing.

    None of them confirm the existence of Jesus.

  75. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 8:39 pm
    It is up to you to decide if he was...

    1. A mental case believing himself the Son of God.
    2. Lying
    3. Telling the truth

    4. Never existed.
    5. Is a combination of several people to create a legend, perhaps like King Arthur.
    6. Was misquoted by people fighting to control the religion after his death.
    7. Never claimed to be literally the son of god in any physical sense, simply in the spiritual sense of God the Father (of everything and everyone).

    The most famous Christian prayer ever, which has probably been spoken by almost every Christian for a very long time, starts with the statement that the person saying the prayer is a son or daughter of the Christian god. Billions of people have made that statement.

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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 8:42 pm
    By the way, I go for 6 and 7.
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    ThatWasFunny Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 9:01 pm
    Why do you people turn every little joke into a little debate?
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
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    November 5, 2009 at 9:02 pm
    > Angilion
    > That is not true. There are no contempory secular records of him at all. Why would there be? He wasn`t important at the time

    No, but the Romans had a very efficient system of government and held regular censuses (that`s why his mom and dad were in Bethlehem remember), and Herod had already heard of him when the huge travelling party of nobles, kings and scholars came all the way from China or thereabouts to see him - not something they do for an unknown kid.

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    boredfjord Male 13-17
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    November 5, 2009 at 9:03 pm
    Very nice, Angilion.
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    mvangild Male 30-39
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    November 5, 2009 at 9:13 pm
    Oh. My. God. You know, I can understand the debate of the existence or non-existence of God. Whether you choose to believe or not is your own choice. But to try to say someone didn`t exist solely because you can`t find anything directly that shows that he existed? What about Buddha? Zoroaster? Hell, why not even extend that list to people that didn`t leave behind their own writings, like Socrates? You try to make yourself sound intelligent by exposing the "great religious cover-up", but instead, you wind up making yourself seem just as petty as the pedantic grammar police that run amok on these websites. Just keep in mind this: lack of proof of existence does not mean proof of non-existence.
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    astrogirl Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 9:49 pm
    Well wasn`t nice of Him!
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    mystery08 Male 18-29
    160 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 9:54 pm
    "Just keep in mind this: lack of proof of existence does not mean proof of non-existence."

    Lack of physical evidence of existence means that that existence is improbable. I could easily make up 1/0 unsupported contradictory claims.

    Contradiction with highly supported scientific law demonstrates extreme improbability (ie raising dead)

    There is no proof / disproof.

    Also just because something isn`t proven/disproven doesn`t give it a 50% probability of existing. Think of the flying spaghetti monster.

    Most atheists will admit that god can`t be proven false. They just believe the probability of his exsistance is too insignificant to consider.

  83. Profile photo of Genocyde
    Genocyde Male 30-39
    712 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 9:59 pm
    If He died for those prices, let`s get His Money`s Worth and have a barbecue at my joint.
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    meter1060 Male 18-29
    89 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 10:45 pm
    "Most atheists will admit that god can`t be proven false. They just believe the probability of his exsistance is too insignificant to consider"
    Which doesn`t mean your an Atheist but an Agnostic.
  85. Profile photo of CVizzle
    CVizzle Male 18-29
    74 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 11:08 pm
    So does that make me Hindu if I shop at the Wal-mart?
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    DrHorrible Male 18-29
    108 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 11:16 pm
    So....am I allowed to leave a comment that isn`t part of the theological debate and is just "lol"?
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    trp712 Male 18-29
    2240 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 11:21 pm
    So....am I allowed to leave a comment that isn`t part of the theological debate and is just "lol"?

    NO!

    Nah, you can. Don`t be turned off by the flames.

  88. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 11:22 pm
    No, but the Romans had a very efficient system of government and held regular censuses (that`s why his mom and dad were in Bethlehem remember)

    The only record of that is in the Christian bible. Which, to belabour the obvious, is not a secular source. The Romans certainly held censuses, but (a) there`s no record of one at that time and place (b) they didn`t require people to spend weeks walking to a census and (c) there`s no record of Jesus on any extant Roman census.

    Herod had already heard of him when the huge travelling party of nobles, kings and scholars came all the way from China or thereabouts to see him - not something they do for an unknown kid.

    And your source for that is?

    It`s the Christian bible again, isn`t it?

    It probably isn`t even in there, though I can`t be sure off the top of my head.

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    BunnyNaku Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 11:29 pm
    lol XD
  90. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 11:29 pm
    But to try to say someone didn`t exist solely because you can`t find anything directly that shows that he existed?

    The claim was that there was no evidence he existed. The argument since then has been about whether or not there is any evidence.

    just as petty as the pedantic grammar police that run amok on these websites.

    A bogeyman of your own creation. There are a few people who object to the worst abuses of the language, but that`s not the same thing at all.

    Just keep in mind this: lack of proof of existence does not mean proof of non-existence.

    Which also applies to the flying spaghetti monster, undetectable magic flying pixies that carry aeroplanes, etc.

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    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 11:32 pm
    Hey, if your Jesus never existed, we`d never have taken perfectly good occasions to celebrate love, camaraderie, charity, etc, and turned them into competitive capitalistic boasting.
  92. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 11:32 pm
    Which doesn`t mean your an Atheist but an Agnostic.

    That depends on which definitions of `agnostic` and `atheist` you use. I`d describe myself as an agnostic atheist - the two aren`t actually mutually exclusive. Basically - I don`t know and I don`t believe.

  93. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 5, 2009 at 11:41 pm
    Hey, if your Jesus never existed, we`d never have taken perfectly good occasions to celebrate love, camaraderie, charity, etc, and turned them into competitive capitalistic boasting.

    Pithy, but I`m fairly confident that had already happened before Christianity existed. For example, Romans exchanged gifts during the festival of Saturnalia and the feast of Sol Invictus (17-25 of December). Although traditional gifts were of small monetary value, it became customary to give gifts of silver if you were rich enough.

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    fishgul69 Female 18-29
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    November 5, 2009 at 11:50 pm
    HA HA HA HA HA HA!!
  95. Profile photo of belunan
    belunan Male 30-39
    1507 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 1:30 am
    "Lack of physical evidence of existence means that that existence is improbable. I could easily make up 1/0 unsupported contradictory claims."

    Oh sh*t, he`s dividing by zero!

    *ducks*

  96. Profile photo of mystery08
    mystery08 Male 18-29
    160 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:11 am
    i thought 1/0 would be easier than typing out infinity.

    Fun facts:
    1/0 infinity
    0/1 zero
    0/0 arbitrary constant *
    *for example if you have zero resistance and zero voltage you get 0/0 (I=V/R) which means the current is constant but unknown. With conservation of energy and momentum you can show that the current is a constant in this example but there are not enough parameters to determine the constant (need initial value)

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    stumpydave Male 30-39
    50 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 3:46 am
    Ug.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
    4548 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 4:03 am
    I ain`t got time for this one, so I`ll stay out for once, but just let me know, is the comment section here basically a bunch of people arguing over the factuality of him "dying for our prices"?
  99. Profile photo of 2353683
    2353683 Female 70 & Over
    178 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 4:28 am
    mytsery is wrong.

    he`s an idiot, not a mathematician. just because in your subject you make certain assumptions and definitions doesn`t mean that its always like that.

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    magoo22 Male 30-39
    660 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 4:34 am
    To hell with high prices!
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    BenTheBug Male 18-29
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    November 6, 2009 at 4:42 am
    Hallelujah!
  102. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 4:50 am
    "he`s an idiot, not a mathematician"

    Like aetheism and agnosticism, I don`t think those two are mutually exclusive...

    Maths is the one intangible thing I have faith in. Maybe jesus divided the fish by zero when he fed the five thousand?


  103. Profile photo of mvangild
    mvangild Male 30-39
    527 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 5:23 am
    >The claim was that there was no evidence he
    >existed. The argument since then has been about
    >whether or not there is any evidence.

    There was also the argument on the existence of the man himself. I do admit, however, that I thought you to be the one to be arguing for that point. For that, I was wrong, and I apologize.

    >A bogeyman of your own creation. There are a few
    >people who object to the worst abuses of the
    >language, but that`s not the same thing at all.

    You haven`t been on the internet for long, have you? :)

    >Which also applies to the flying spaghetti
    >monster, undetectable magic flying pixies that
    >carry aeroplanes, etc.

    Or neutrinos, for that matter. I mean, there`s no direct evidence for the existence of a neutrino. All evidence to date is based on the neutrino`s supposed interactions. So, by that logic, a neutrino`s existence is infinitely improbable.


  104. Profile photo of mvangild
    mvangild Male 30-39
    527 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 5:26 am
    Now, inferring that the lack of evidence of Jesus`s existence puts him on par with a spaghetti monster? Or pixies that carry airplanes? Yeah, that`s wrong on more than a few levels.
  105. Profile photo of Baelzar
    Baelzar Male 40-49
    1399 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 5:36 am
    That would be THE Flying Spaghetti Monster, Mangirld.

    He created the mountains and the trees and the migits, and he put the dinosaur bones in the ground and praise be to the stripper factory and beercano raaaaaaaamen.

  106. Profile photo of Catx
    Catx Male 18-29
    189 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 6:14 am
    sal-u-ta-tions! Do you have a moment to talk about the lord?
  107. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 6:31 am
    "1/0 infinity"

    Not exactly. It`s more accurate to say that the limit of 1/x as x approaches zero is infinity. 1 divided by exactly 0 is undefined. Why? Because saying it is defined is equivalent to saying the equation 0x=0 has only one solution, when in fact it has infinitely many.

  108. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10443 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 6:51 am
    Most atheists will admit that god can`t be proven false. They just believe the probability of his exsistance is too insignificant to consider.

    Thats correct. We can equate the probability of the existence of god to be equal to or less than that of the flying spaghetti monster, as the spaghetti monster is specifically said to plant evidence. Anyway, we can equate the probability of the existence of god to any claim that is undisprovable. If I said that I personally created the universe by farting it into existence, or that if I kill 50 people my imaginary friend will make my computer run twice as fast, that would be just as likley as the christian god, or the muslim god or whatever else anyone can come up with.

    What this means for the religious is that if they believe in a god then they must also consider every provable and undisprovable claim that could ever be made. And since we are all finite creatures, the consideration of any is therefore a waste of time.

  109. Profile photo of LazyMe484
    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10443 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 6:53 am
    Because saying it is defined is equivalent to saying the equation 0x=0 has only one solution, when in fact it has infinitely many.

    Perfect answer right there!

  110. Profile photo of chadders42
    chadders42 Male 13-17
    171 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 7:00 am
    Most Atheists don`t give crap, the reason they are atheists is they can`t be arsed.
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    natakalt Female 18-29
    1697 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 8:05 am
    Haha I can`t believe they put that :O

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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 8:30 am
    "Or neutrinos, for that matter. I mean, there`s no direct evidence for the existence of a neutrino. All evidence to date is based on the neutrino`s supposed interactions. So, by that logic, a neutrino`s existence is infinitely improbable."

    Wrong. Neutrinos were directly experimentally detected in the Nobel-Prize-winning Cowan-Reines neutrino experiment in 1956.

  113. Profile photo of Hansbo
    Hansbo Male 18-29
    901 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 9:51 am
    I know this is not going to convince someone, but I`ll still jump on the angry internet people-train.

    About the existence of Christ: It IS in fact debated whether he existed or not. The historical evidence is vague (but not non-existent) and saying that he just exists PERIOD is just not true. There are signs pointing to him having existed, and signs pointing to him not having existed. The reason this debate is irrelevant to most atheists, however, is because it doesn`t really matter whether he existed or not.

  114. Profile photo of SPrinkZ
    SPrinkZ Male 18-29
    2275 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 9:59 am
    Most anythings don`t feel anyway you think they do.

    I like how people`s humanness is reduced to mere labels like we`re all in highschool again.

  115. Profile photo of Molehouse
    Molehouse Male 13-17
    303 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 10:46 am
    You owe us christians big time, what if muslims took over? What holiday do they have, ramadam, party!!
  116. Profile photo of Willowpuff
    Willowpuff Female 18-29
    2221 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 10:53 am
    Jesus was a real person. But not the son of "god".

    Also, this picture is just ridiculous.

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    ze_tuna_fish Female 13-17
    92 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 11:08 am
    My ideals are dictated by facts and logic.
    Nothing personal, religion.
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    adaedwar Male 18-29
    192 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 11:20 am
    Who would really think that was a good marketing strategy?
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    kairobert Male 18-29
    1626 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 11:57 am
    "You owe us christians big time, what if muslims took over? What holiday do they have, ramadam, party!!"

    I wish I could assume you were acting like a retard as a joke.

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    magoo22 Male 30-39
    660 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 12:31 pm
    I like strippers.
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    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8309 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:12 pm
    So....am I allowed to leave a comment that isn`t part of the theological debate and is just "lol"?

    There ARE NO theological debates on IAB, ever! IAB never discusses, argues or in any way debates any form of religion or religious belief, and if you choose to believe that it does, that`s entirely up to you and we accept your unprovable beliefs as just as perfectly valid as the beliefs of the rest of us.

  122. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:17 pm
    I ain`t got time for this one, so I`ll stay out for once, but just let me know, is the comment section here basically a bunch of people arguing over the factuality of him "dying for our prices"?

    No. The picture is fake and no-one is arguing about the validity of the message.

  123. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:21 pm
    You haven`t been on the internet for long, have you? :)

    21 years.

    Yes, before the web existed.

    Unlike you, I don`t confuse a tiny minority of people who would like something vaguely approaching fairly correct English in at least the most basic form with some sort of omnipresent police force.

    But hey, at least you didn`t call them Nazis.

  124. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:24 pm
    Now, inferring that the lack of evidence of Jesus`s existence puts him on par with a spaghetti monster? Or pixies that carry airplanes? Yeah, that`s wrong on more than a few levels.

    Rather amusing, given that I have made several posts stating that there is evidence that Jesus existed (although his name couldn`t have been Jesus, obviously), providing that evidence and defending it in argument with a poster who said it was invalid.

    You`re not scoring well so far.

  125. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:30 pm
    "1/0 infinity"
    Not exactly. It`s more accurate to say that the limit of 1/x as x approaches zero is infinity. 1 divided by exactly 0 is undefined. Why? Because saying it is defined is equivalent to saying the equation 0x=0 has only one solution, when in fact it has infinitely many.

    Now were getting into more meaningful territory - how legitimate a concept is infinity. Nope my finite cells can`t get with it, got lost at Aleph 1. Transfinite what?

  126. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    You owe us christians big time, what if muslims took over? What holiday do they have, ramadam, party!!

    You have a point in the first sentence, but not in the second. Christianity is a major defence against global domination by Islam, but the issue isn`t really one of partying. It`s that as oppressive theocracies go, Islam is currently much worse than Christianity.

    Regarding celebratory holidays, Christians owe various earlier religions for all of the "Christian" ones. So let`s hear for for Mithraism and Sol Invictus and for a mixture of other European and British pre-Christian religions.

  127. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:33 pm
    There ARE NO theological debates on IAB, ever! IAB never discusses, argues or in any way debates any form of religion or religious belief, and if you choose to believe that it does, that`s entirely up to you and we accept your unprovable beliefs as just as perfectly valid as the beliefs of the rest of us.

    Did you really intend to claim that lying about the existence of evidence is the same as the lack of evidence?

  128. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:42 pm
    "Most Atheists don`t give crap, the reason they are atheists is they can`t be arsed."

    True only if you are talking about implicit aethiesm, but not true about people who have chosen this path.

    Thinking about logic, existance, morality is not easy. Oh I know! lets invent a god to take care of it all!

  129. Profile photo of Lionhart2
    Lionhart2 Male 40-49
    8309 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:50 pm
    > Angilion
    > as oppressive theocracies go, Islam is currently much worse than Christianity

    Well good luck to you Angi, because statistically, we`re all going to be Muslim by about 2050.

  130. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 2:54 pm
    "It`s that as oppressive theocracies go, Islam is currently much worse than Christianity"

    Culturally biased to a Western viewpoint?

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    Taurus01979 Female 18-29
    52 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 7:51 pm
    Even Jesus loves a bargain. Apparently.
  132. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 8:06 pm
    Culturally biased to a Western viewpoint?

    Yeah, I`m culturally biased against torturing people to death and stuff like that. Shame on me.

    I`m not arguing that Islam is inherently more brutal and oppressive than Christianity, just that it is at this time.

  133. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 8:09 pm
    Well good luck to you Angi, because statistically, we`re all going to be Muslim by about 2050.

    I`m likely to be dead by then, so I just hope it doesn`t happen earlier.

  134. Profile photo of MrYouKnow
    MrYouKnow Male 13-17
    1081 posts
    November 6, 2009 at 11:43 pm
    Seems like a dumb thing to die over.
  135. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 2:46 am
    "Wrong. Neutrinos were directly experimentally detected in the Nobel-Prize-winning Cowan-Reines neutrino experiment in 1956."

    Read that. Neat science. You shouldn`t use the word direct however when it was actually gamma rays (from two seperate interactions) that indicated the neutrino`s existance.

  136. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 2:51 am
    Still put gravitons and n dimensional space a lot higher up the `believable` invisibles than most peoples idea of "their" god. It`s the personal saviour bit that does not sit well, its a big elasto plast over an unfriendly (unbiased) world.

    I can see however, that you could stretch some definitions of a single god to actually fit. An all knowing, all pervasive god could be synonomous with the rules of nature and the sum of all the variables within it. A view of a god that sees all of time sort of fits with this if you accept the god is *everything* over *all of time*. Yeah I can believe in that sort of god, even if, on balance, he doesn`t really give a sh*t about me or anyone else. Kind of fits with my observations of this gods behaviour....

  137. Profile photo of dookiestix
    dookiestix Male 40-49
    31 posts
    November 7, 2009 at 2:47 pm
    And all this time I thought Christ died for our sins.
  138. Profile photo of nomorecheese
    nomorecheese Male 13-17
    463 posts
    November 8, 2009 at 7:51 am
    ya know, if I-A-B keeps makin fun of christians, i am OUT
  139. Profile photo of Sandy312
    Sandy312 Female 18-29
    159 posts
    December 22, 2009 at 5:02 pm
    "ya know, if I-A-B keeps makin fun of christians, i am OUT"

    lol and I`m sure the forums will never be the same again... twit

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