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but at the same time i`m wondering about the credibility of fox news
think i`m going to look up more on this on my own lol
i seriously don`t trust fox
Aren`t you aware that you have contradicted yourself?
You argue that flu vaccines don`t work at all because there are so many variations of the virus, which is very mutable. Which is wrong, by the way, because each year the virus is for the most common/most dangerous strains for that year and you gain some resistance to similar strains.
You also argue that if you gain immunity by catching flu rather than gain an immunity by having a vaccination, that works to protect you against flu for the rest of your life.
But if a vaccine was useless because it only works against 6 strains of flu, resistance gained from catching one strain of flu would would also be useless on the grounds that it only protects you from that one strain.
But anyways, I`m not aginst the vaccine but its pointless to get because even if you get the flu, you`re probly not gonna die from it. The media has just blown it way out of proportion
You must choose to play one of the following games of Choose A Door:
Game 1There are a million doors before you. One of them is rigged to disable or even kill you. Behind the others is the rest of your life. Some will cause you mild discomfort for a short time.
Game 2There are 10,000 doors before you. One is rigged to disable or even kill you. Behind the others is the rest of your life. However, some doors will cause other people suffering and maybe even death. Possibly people you know and care about.
Which game do you choose?
I`ve sworn of vaccines a while ago, anything you try and throw at me won`t change my view on it. If it ain`t broke, don`t fix it.
That would be wondering if your children would die, maybe dying yourself, maybe having other family members die.
Flu has killed a lot of people over the years. I don`t think you`d really like to go through it like they did for centuries.
The worst ever pandemic in terms of death and speed was flu. No-one really knows how many died, because it was too many to record. 50 million dead in just over a year is one of the lower estimates. Even the Black Death of 1347-41 didn`t kill that many, although only because there were far fewer people then - it killed a much higher proportion of the total population of Europe and had a much worse effect.
"it seems safer when you hear stories like this."
Only if you have no information about flu. Actual flu, not a cold wrongly called flu.
If you break your leg with a hammer, you could get more time off in bed. You`d also feel far less bad than you would with flu.
Flu cannot sensibly be considered a "kinda nice" way to spend a week. Not actual flu, as opposed to a heavy cold.
This is a much funnier video of her
A more plausible argument is that it is the other stuff in the vaccine that can harm, not the dead cells used to enable the immune system to recognise an infection of live cells of the same type.
Some vaccines still contain mercury, and that is seriously toxic.
What makes you think that it was triggered by the vaccine injected more than 10 days before it, rather than by the flu that marked the start of it?
Dystonia is involuntary sustained muscle contractions that lead to abnormal movements and postures, according to the organisation in the UK set up to help people with it. It can also cause involuntary movements (as a result of muscle contractions, obviously).
If something is psychogenic, it is caused by the mind. That doesn`t mean it`s put on, or that it`s not real. A person with a psychogenic condition genuinely has the symptoms of that condition, it`s just that there isn`t a physical cause. Which can make it much harder to treat.
By this logic we should ban cars because people occasionally get hit by them.
To everybody else, FYI, in science, anecdotal evidence is almost worthless. You have to look at the overall numbers. If you are .1% likely to get the flu and die, but .001% likely to get a horrible side effect from the vaccine, you should take it. It`s just that simple. Yes, somebody, somewhere may have a terrible response to the vaccine. But it`s still the right call.
That`s probably the worst thing I`ve ever laughed at. Save a seat for me.
Listen, this story is tragic but the way it is being spun is so disingenuous and misleading.
This is NOT an effect specific to influenza vaccines and is actually a possible rare auto immune reaction to any foreign infectious matter that your body might respond to. It is not yet known if it is directly connected to the antigens in the influenza vaccine or by bacterial contamination, but even so the chances of having this specific auto immune reaction is (and I quote directly) one in a million.
I will leave it to the individual to decide if its worth getting the swine flu vaccine but just do the math. This one case thus far of a person receiving this kind of reaction versus the 80 kids who have already died from swine flu.
Yes. It is. You should kill yourself.
Hmm maybe he was onto something..
(even though she`s not old, but you know what i mean)
But this story is so tragic. : (
The thing that really got me was when they showed that picture of her laughing and then they had her shaking and struggling to talk...
I got bored with it, closed it.
Possibly, but probably not except for drugs that suppress the immune system. The main issue regarding over-use is antibiotics, but that`s nothing to do with weakening people. The issue there is that bacteria evolve resistance to antibiotics faster than humans devise new antibiotics.
"isn`t your immune system supposed to take care of viruses and the like?"
Only to some extent. Many viruses and other infections will kill a human anyway, regardless of their immune system. Take a look back in history - it`s a shocker. I suggest tuberculosis as a good starting point. Or maybe the Black Death (although it`s not certain what that was, modern medicine could probably cure it).
Vaccines are a trainer for the immune system, teaching it to recognise a microbe. In that sense, they strengthen it. It`s like giving photos of troublemakers to security guards.
A 10 day delay between the flu jab and flu? The incubation period for flu isn`t 10 days. It`s rarely even half that. So it appears that the two are unrelated, unless it`s a very different strain of flu.
Then there`s the issue of what might cause such a reaction after 10 days. What`s in the vaccine she had?
It appears that she`s arguing that a combination of the vaccine and the flu 10 days later caused her illness - does anyone have any idea as to how that could happen?
I could go into the whole forager`s health vs. agriculturer`s health debate right now... but I just woke up from a nap and don`t want to.
What the hell makes them think it was the flu shot then? Considering she actually had flu, it would be damn hard to find any reason that the injection of dead flu ages ago was the cause.
PENS GAVE MY BABY AUTISM ;EROIN543LKEWRMF`TL/K43MERK!!!!11
PS - For those that are paranoid about the swine flu, 40,000 people die EACH YEAR from the annual flu (and that inlcudes people that get the shot), and only a few hundred have died from the swine flu. People are WAY over-paranoid about the swine flu. You have a greater chance of dying from the annual flu than you do the swine flu.
@est87jmg: Do you have a source for that, or are you just spouting BS?